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Title: Bored of Jump starting on Customers Drive
Post by: Jack Judd on January 01, 2015, 10:41:35 pm
Hi Everyone,

After setting up a second pump for my first employee ;D, the van battery which powers the 100psi pumps is dead within a month  Really bored of jump starting etc.  I need to run pumps off leisure battery and not the van battery and then have the leisure battery charged when we hit the road.  Is this possible.  Would be really grateful for any advice on best type of leisure battery and any connections needed.  Happy to help anyone on any others questions you may have.  Happy New Year
Title: Re: Bored of Jump starting on Customers Drive
Post by: PoleKing on January 01, 2015, 11:03:41 pm
Just park on the road
Title: Re: Bored of Jump starting on Customers Drive
Post by: LWC on January 01, 2015, 11:18:25 pm
Just park on the road

 ;D
Title: Re: Bored of Jump starting on Customers Drive
Post by: dannymack on January 02, 2015, 06:41:27 am
You need a decent leisure battery I think a 110 or 120 AH I think they are. You would have to run this through a relay with a fuse then onto your van battery with another fuse, that should do the trick. I'm sure if you go to Hlafords they will sort all that out and fit it. They may be abit more costly than a local garage auto electrician if you can't do yourself. Hope this helps and you shouldn't have problems as long as your doing a few miles to keep the van battery charging up the leisure battery. You can always run a battery charger out to van and charge up every few weeks which myself would find a pain.
Title: Re: Bored of Jump starting on Customers Drive
Post by: Elfyn on January 02, 2015, 07:45:55 am
I've never liked the idea of charging a leisure battery from the vans alternator - it puts a load on it that it wasn't designed for. I have a 85amp battery on my 650ltr system and I only need to charge every 2 or three days. I don't let it go that far because I charge the battery as I fill the tank every evening.
Title: Re: Bored of Jump starting on Customers Drive
Post by: David Kent @ KentKleen on January 02, 2015, 08:48:43 am
Advice=Make sure its a 'Banner' battery.
Title: Re: Bored of Jump starting on Customers Drive
Post by: david mark on January 02, 2015, 01:19:10 pm
Get intelligent charger from caravan dealer along with 110 amp leisure battery plus artic extension lead keep charger in van charge over night or every other night don't rely on split charge relay, unless your doing a fair amount of miles per day.
Title: Re: Bored of Jump starting on Customers Drive
Post by: dazmond on January 02, 2015, 04:31:06 pm
i have a 75ah leisure battery from corwoods.its over a year old now and i charge it every night after ive purified my water for the next days work.takes 2 mins to reel out an extension lead to back of van.mines a one pump set up.id go for a 110ah battery for 2 pumps mate. ;)
Title: Re: Bored of Jump starting on Customers Drive
Post by: JSMC on January 02, 2015, 06:29:19 pm
i have a 75ah leisure battery from corwoods.its over a year old now and i charge it every night after ive purified my water for the next days work.takes 2 mins to reel out an extension lead to back of van.mines a one pump set up.id go for a 110ah battery for 2 pumps mate. ;)

what charger do you use?
Title: Re: Bored of Jump starting on Customers Drive
Post by: Richard Stevenson on January 02, 2015, 06:40:38 pm
You can get a 150 amp semi - traction battery, also a c- tec charger, leave on charge as much as possible as it will do no harm, even the best chargers only put ina few amps per hour, so to replace 150amp takes a long time. The c- tec is one of the best on the market but will cost between £70 to £250 depending on model, but will last years.
Title: Re: Bored of Jump starting on Customers Drive
Post by: dazmond on January 02, 2015, 07:13:11 pm
i have a 75ah leisure battery from corwoods.its over a year old now and i charge it every night after ive purified my water for the next days work.takes 2 mins to reel out an extension lead to back of van.mines a one pump set up.id go for a 110ah battery for 2 pumps mate. ;)

what charger do you use?

smart battery charger from halfords.cost me £40 a couple of years ago.when my battery reaches full charge it automatically switches to trickle charge.
Title: Re: Bored of Jump starting on Customers Drive
Post by: slap bash on January 02, 2015, 07:30:51 pm
I have a smart relay fitted, I cannot believe someone not wanting to fit one its the best thing and work very well. Do it and find out how well they works.It puts no strain on the van as it only works when the van`s battery is fully charged. Daily charging of mains power is a killer as they charge to fast.I have a C teck smart charger but only use it 3/4 times a year.
Title: Re: Bored of Jump starting on Customers Drive
Post by: Jack Judd on January 02, 2015, 10:49:42 pm
Thanks for all the advice.
Will let you know how I get on.
Cheers
Title: Re: Bored of Jump starting on Customers Drive
Post by: duncan h on January 02, 2015, 11:01:35 pm
Buy a Transit with Duel batteries. It charges the second battery without flattening the starter battery. So easy. These pumps don't use much juice. An alternator shoud charge any battery easy...unless it a small van
Title: Re: Bored of Jump starting on Customers Drive
Post by: PoleKing on January 03, 2015, 01:12:07 am
Buy a Transit with Duel batteries. It charges the second battery without flattening the starter battery. So easy. These pumps don't use much juice. An alternator shout charge any battery easy...unless it a small van

Do they just fight all the time?
Title: Re: Bored of Jump starting on Customers Drive
Post by: Window Lickers on January 03, 2015, 01:21:21 am
Are your customers bored with it too? ;)
Title: Re: Bored of Jump starting on Customers Drive
Post by: mufcglen on January 03, 2015, 10:30:28 am
i was getting bored with taking my spare batery out very few days and recently bought a new 110 amp leisure batt and a real quality intelligent split charger, 14 volts going into both batts and not had any probs since, flow seems more consistent too.
Title: Re: Bored of Jump starting on Customers Drive
Post by: Rob@Blast off on January 03, 2015, 10:52:56 am
I have a durite? Split charger and big leisure battery and have never had to charge it.
Title: Re: Bored of Jump starting on Customers Drive
Post by: mufcglen on January 03, 2015, 10:59:32 am
Rob thats what i have just bought, the durite are quality!!!
Title: Re: Bored of Jump starting on Customers Drive
Post by: Rob@Blast off on January 03, 2015, 11:59:11 am
Yeah great bit of kit, can't believe so many people mess about charging up battery's
Title: Re: Bored of Jump starting on Customers Drive
Post by: dazmond on January 03, 2015, 12:37:49 pm
Yeah great bit of kit, can't believe so many people mess about charging up battery's

i hardly do any mileage(usually 10 miles a day)

i only use my van for work

it takes 2 mins to reel my extension lead to my van after fill up(it takes me an hour to purify 500L DI only)
Title: Re: Bored of Jump starting on Customers Drive
Post by: Rob@Blast off on January 03, 2015, 02:45:29 pm
Wish I could get away with di only!
Takes up to 5 hours to fill my big tank.
Title: Re: Bored of Jump starting on Customers Drive
Post by: chez on January 03, 2015, 09:17:27 pm
I've had a lot of battery problems over the last few years. Been through 2 batteries in 19 months.
I ran the battery down doing one road where I hardly move all day, and because the pump is wired to the van battery I was stuck so I asked a custy for a jump start (embarrassed) so decided to get it sorted once and for all.
Went down to my usual tyre and battery place and this guy was there who has just rewired his camper van and said that I needed to have a leisure battery installed and offered to do it. So he rewired it all, split relay under the passenger seat and put the leisure battery in the same place.
Had it done 2 1/2 months ago and only go on a long journey once a week (60 miles round trip) the rest is within a 2 mile radius. No probs what's so ever.
Hopefully will last a while now.... Keep you posted!
Cheers Chez
Title: Re: Bored of Jump starting on Customers Drive
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on January 04, 2015, 06:12:07 pm
I've never liked the idea of charging a leisure battery from the vans alternator - it puts a load on it that it wasn't designed for. I have a 85amp battery on my 650ltr system and I only need to charge every 2 or three days. I don't let it go that far because I charge the battery as I fill the tank every evening.

lol your a window cleaner not an auto elety thank god next you will be telling use not to run with the blowers on all day because it will over load the alternator

if you know how am alternator works in side and how its ups the amps for charging only when needed they you know it will be fine , we have done 50,000 miles this year with two batterys getting charged off the alternator with not a hit of a problem
Title: Re: Bored of Jump starting on Customers Drive
Post by: CleanClear on January 04, 2015, 10:58:00 pm
I've never liked the idea of charging a leisure battery from the vans alternator - it puts a load on it that it wasn't designed for. I have a 85amp battery on my 650ltr system and I only need to charge every 2 or three days. I don't let it go that far because I charge the battery as I fill the tank every evening.

lol your a window cleaner not an auto elety thank god next you will be telling use not to run with the blowers on all day because it will over load the alternator

if you know how am alternator works in side and how its ups the amps for charging only when needed they you know it will be fine , we have done 50,000 miles this year with two batterys getting charged off the alternator with not a hit of a problem

WOW !! 5,000 Miles a year i do according to my MOT's.