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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: scott james on December 30, 2014, 05:56:16 pm
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Hi all.
Well, I found a WFP package, its got a 25ft pole but wondering will it be big enough for three story, ie ground 1st and 2nd. I was told a 22ft one would be big enough but I dont think so. I feel a 25ft might welel do the job for now as I start, could anyone confirm this is ok size? I suppose I will get 28 ft out of it holding it up. I see lots people say 25ft will reach but just wanted to make sure as I am new to the WFP role and really need somthing asap, a 30ft would be great but not offered with it, but if 2ft will achive the job then thats good for now. I could add section or buy a new pole in time and sell the pole.
Thanks for any advice on this. I hope the 25ft is big enough, i messaged them and waiting a reply but none as yet.
Scott
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Who is this with?
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It is a seller online, its a 2nd hand package, I have messaged them but no reponse as yet, I just want to find out the height, I am sure it will do the job 25ft should be enough for three up, but wanted to check first with people whom will know. Someone said a 22ft pole will reach but I think thats pushing it.......?
I am jus after an entry to the WFP market to really, so building slowly, the set up is fine, as said just the heigh issues?
Thanks
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A 25' pole should reach, assuming ground is level, the floors are the usual height. However if it's an online seller I'd be reluctant to buy second hand. What make of pole is it and why is he selling?
A 30' carbon pole would be ideal.
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Hi,
Thanks, yeah i thought 25ft would be ok. He is selling due to upgrading, I know the back pack trilly set up as was going to buy new but saw this. The pole is better than the ones you get with it online, its a shop brought one and he does nto know the make as worn away label. it looks the part, and has new levelers and on off switch and hoses on the pole. Its what I was going to buy new but cheaper. Just in two minds now lol.
Cheers mate.
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(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1419964147_WFP1.JPG)
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1419964157_WFP.JPG)
HERE THE POLE:)
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Got to be a wind up that's a bordex alloy :'( :'( :P
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Can I ask what you're paying for it?
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Is that ok then? any advice needed thanks
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That looks like an acient pole mate, 25ft will defo reach normal houses at 3rd floor (some call it 2nd story) but yeah ground - normal upstairs and then next floor is easily reachable with a 25ft, I use a 25ft for all my 3rd floor houses with no probs, I would defo look at getting a better pole though mate, that one looks fairly beaten up, is it carbon? Or part carbon?
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Can I ask what you're paying for it?
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I really would consider a gardiner backpack and clx pole to get you started Mate, this System your looking at may well be pretty rubbish... I now your eager to get going, but it's such a hassle when your equipmet is below par, it'll cost you a lot keep repairing etc, I still think its best you learn the ropes a bit and get some money behind you first, then invest in a system
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That is a 4 section Brodex pole, could be hybrid - theirs are blue, I think. If each section is 6 foot long then with a six inch overlap at each clamp, the longest it could be is 21foot 6 inches, plus a bit for the gooseneck and brush.
Also ask yourself: "What's the point of a tap at the top of the pole?" If your arms are long enough for you to operate that when the pole is extended. then you could trad the tops while standing on the ground!!
Be very cautious with this one :-\
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Scott, ring up gardiner pole systems and ask them to give you the best price they can for a Gardiner backpack and 25clx pole, I assure you, you will be happier, the more I look at that pole the more I want to warn you to stay away! The gardiner website is being updated at the mo, but you can still ring them for advice,
This will get you going then you can work your way up to a full system, you can buy your pure water from someone locally and save on the reverse osmosis system. You can trad clean most things and then use the back pack or even a trolley system for higher stuff, also check the polarbrite website out for there trolley systems, they are very well
Made and a good price - £240 they may throw in a pole as well, give them a call mate.
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Cheers guys, it does look a little beaten up. Would you not consider this? I would rather go with experience hence I came here for some advice.
Its worth £150 with a kobold back pack trolley and ready to go.
Thank you everyone.
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Hi Scott
As said , our standard issue pole is the clx 22 it does most things including domestic 3 story.
What you haven'tt thought of is that this old pole will be hassle to use. Loose clamps , sticking.
You will learn very fast that a nice clean pole with no problems is worth its weight in gold. Buy the one in the pic and you will be changing it very quick.
John
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Cheers guys, it does look a little beaten up. Would you not consider this? I would rather go with experience hence I came here for some advice.
Its worth £150 with a kobold back pack trolley and ready to go.
Thank you everyone.
Ring Gardiner and polarbrite tomorrow for some quotes mate, polarbrite isn't far from you so you can pick up equipment from them easily enough, give them a call, Id be happy to go with you if you wanted as I live not far from them and know them well!
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Cheers guys, it does look a little beaten up. Would you not consider this? I would rather go with experience hence I came here for some advice.
Its worth £150 with a kobold back pack trolley and ready to go.
Thank you everyone.
Cheers mate for the advice, I am glad I came here i tihnk if you lot dont like it your not going to put me off somthing thats ok for entry level and honest advice is good and I see from the site people look out ofr each other.
Also Ian is right why is the stop tap at top lol. I did wonder.
I think I can have £250 for a system ready to go, the pak and trolley to wheel it around and pole. would that get me much? I am struggling to find anything, been looking for days.
Appriciate the help...
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I think you'll be able to get a trolley for £250 from polarbrite, then maybe get a 2nd hand pole on eBay that's a well known make like phoenix or Gardiner...
http://www.polarbrite.co.uk/water-fed-pole-supplies/water-fed-pole-system/window_cleaning_trolley_system_eco
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Don't forget a hydra alloy 25ft isn't 25ft long, Brodex measure their poles in reach length just another
way to con customers.
Wouldn't take that pole as a gift Scott.
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22' phoenix pole in polarbrite around 110 quid with a 4ft extension 40 quid mate
They'd do you a deal if you went in there, that's for sure
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Cheers guys, it does look a little beaten up. Would you not consider this? I would rather go with experience hence I came here for some advice.
Its worth £150 with a kobold back pack trolley and ready to go.
Thank you everyone.
Ring Gardiner and polarbrite tomorrow for some quotes mate, polarbrite isn't far from you so you can pick up equipment from them easily enough, give them a call, Id be happy to go with you if you wanted as I live not far from them and know them well!
Cheers John, as said I need some advice to what is best to buy with £250ish in hand, I can buy pure water near me for now and then buy a RO set up. Great place to get some advice. I realyl need the WFP set up as done my ankle in so ladder work harder plus I seem to have got a few 3 story jobs and quotes for others and there seems to be hundreded of 3 story places near me so a new market is to be had. Thanks again all, I am goign to pass up that pole and system in the pics, does look old and heavy and I think its one of those desperate purchases I need to avoid.
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Don't forget a hydra alloy 25ft isn't 25ft long, Brodex measure their poles in reach length just another
way to con customers.
Wouldn't take that pole as a gift Scott.
You beat me to that one.
This is one,of the few things we agree,on Sean. ;D
Scott.......DO NOT BUY THAT POLE.
Seriously, do as everyone's saying, buy yourself new kit and skip the agro of buying second hand.
Get a clx 27 and,you can use that for everything. It's a decent starter pole.
We've all been in the same boat, but we all now realise that if we could turn back the clock we would all buy good quality stuff straight away. Far less hassle, and cheaper in the long run as 6 months down the line you won't hate it and either give up, or spend out on more expensive stuff.
Beg borrow or steal (mayb not steal) the £500 ish quid you need, and get a good set up mate.
Stick with gardiners or facelift and you won't go wrong.
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Scott don't know if they are a good backpack or not, just comparing to what your thinking of buying.
There's a Kobald backpack on fleebay new £82 delivered and CLX22 is £126+vat, you can always buy an extra
section to bring it up to a 27 footer if you need to later.
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Fantastic adcive and so fast too, can not thank you enough. I passed up buying that one, seems well odd now I think about it.
I have a budget of abotu £250 max as I brought all my trad stuff in and cloths, squeegees etc etc etc, belt set up as I will trad still bottoms to save water, its way I want to work and helps me while I build. When I get going more and get enough customers I will get a van and build as I go.
I thank ou Jakey for the advice on that trolley, £240 is a bit steep for me but thn thats it all bar the pole? or Dod you have to buy the hose etc and all the other parts.
Really push my luck here and anyone that cna get a pakage they no thats ready to go and just add pure for under £300 I would be happy. I just wnat to buy correctly.
Thanks again everyone real advice form people that know the score can not beat it!!!!
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Here you go Scott.
http://www.windowcleaningwarehouse.co.uk/SKU148.html
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Here you go Scott.
http://www.windowcleaningwarehouse.co.uk/SKU148.html
That's an option ^
Or as said if you ring polarbrite Craig will
Do you a deal, he'll knock the price down if he can for you mate
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Here you go Scott.
http://www.windowcleaningwarehouse.co.uk/SKU148.html
Thats awsome, only thing is I need 25ft minimum as need to do 3 story work too, wonder if they do a 25ft one, or that back pack and everything to go but another pole at around a similar price, can go to £250 max for it all.
Feel like I am getting somehwere and glad eveyone put me off that one before. lol
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Here you go Scott.
http://www.windowcleaningwarehouse.co.uk/SKU148.html
Thats awsome, only thing is I need 25ft minimum as need to do 3 story work too, wonder if they do a 25ft one, or that back pack and everything to go but another pole at around a similar price, can go to £250 max for it all.
Find them
Feel like I am getting somehwere and glad eveyone put me off that one before. lol
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Ring them tomorrow scott, ask if for 250 they'll do a 25ft facelift pole
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Here you go Scott.
http://www.windowcleaningwarehouse.co.uk/SKU148.html
Thats awsome, only thing is I need 25ft minimum as need to do 3 story work too, wonder if they do a 25ft one, or that back pack and everything to go but another pole at around a similar price, can go to £250 max for it all.
Feel like I am getting somehwere and glad eveyone put me off that one before. lol
You'd be suprised how much leeway there can be if you ring them and barter a bit...
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For the trolley - a few barrels from a car wash place, a cheap trolley from Maplins or similar, 12v pump from ebay (£20 or less), tubing from a plumbers or B & Q, etc, jubilee clips, a few bits of wood, bunge cords, cable ties, etc, 10amp 12v battery, some wire, a switch, etc, and make your own.
Most of the stuff needed can also be bought on ebay real cheap.
Total cost £120 or less and you can make it to suit your own needs or change it as needed.
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What i did about 2 months ago was this
Trolley build (all ebay)
trolley sack wheel type - 20 squid
4 barrells - ebay 20 squid
pump - 15 squid
battery 12ah - 15 squid
hose 30m 5-8mm clear - 13 squid
Pole £30 at b&q
harris
tesco brush
few 5mm str8 connectors (for jets and to connect hose where needed)
plaggy inline tap
Cheap, but iot works,
I Admit though, a 22ft pole would be much better, 90% of work is fine with the harris, just the odd one where ive needed a 6ft extension, i used an old fishing pole section to extend the harris on the rare occasion
i will be buying a clx 22 and a decent brush soon though
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Here you go Scott.
http://www.windowcleaningwarehouse.co.uk/SKU148.html
Thats awsome, only thing is I need 25ft minimum as need to do 3 story work too, wonder if they do a 25ft one, or that back pack and everything to go but another pole at around a similar price, can go to £250 max for it all.
Feel like I am getting somehwere and glad eveyone put me off that one before. lol
Yes mate, I am ringing them tomorrow, £200 and ready to go with that package, just need the 25ft so cna do the 3 story so will ask them I want the package but a 25ft pole and see what they can offer, can not be to much more I would assume. Even if £250 I think thats good as all new and a decent pole and I could have gone for that one I started off on here with...thank god I never pressed buy now on it and came here first.
Thanks everyone, I will let you no whats said tomorrow.
All the best.
You'd be suprised how much leeway there can be if you ring them and barter a bit...
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22' phoenix pole in polarbrite around 110 quid with a 4ft extension 40 quid mate
They'd do you a deal if you went in there, that's for sure
Ah I see they do the extention of 4ft then, I will ask at WCW if they can add that in on the 22 phoenix pole that should do the job and they should sell that part. Nice one
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Spend wisely first otherwise you only end up spending double or even more later on , personally I would hang on and save some more money personally .