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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: delboy on December 26, 2014, 06:40:32 pm

Title: gutter vacs
Post by: delboy on December 26, 2014, 06:40:32 pm
I now completely do everything wfp and no longer even carry ladders on the van,except   a tiny ladder for conservatory roof cleans.I don't currently offer a gutter clearing service,but am looking at maybe getting a gutter vac and adding this to my list of services.my question is do any of you guys offer this service and only use the gutter vac and get away with never using ladders?is this possible?
Thanks in advance guys......oh and merry xmas fellow windies :)
Title: Re: gutter vacs
Post by: mufcglen on December 26, 2014, 07:25:32 pm
ive never tried a gutter vac but its something im looking at as i hope to be virtually ladder free in the future but i think theres some jobs surely you cant get everywhere in the gutters with things like roof slates that slide into the gutters or gutters that have been fitted poorly and too close to the tiles?
Title: Re: gutter vacs
Post by: marc on December 26, 2014, 08:07:41 pm
We got a gutter vac this year as whenever I was asked to do gutter jobs I didn't want to go up a ladder as we are wfp , how can you bang on about safety with window cleaning then go up a ladder to do a gutter clean . What I would say is if your busy enough cleaning windows then don't worry about gutter cleaning the only reason i got one was there are now 2 of us so I'm not so busy cleaning windows   Marc
Title: Re: gutter vacs
Post by: Smudger on December 27, 2014, 10:39:34 am
Ladders free ???

Well, yes although there are plenty who will argue otherwise, comes down to your equipment really.

Having done somewhere near 1000 clears over the last few years we have never needed ladders to clear gutters and down pipes

Darran
Title: Re: gutter vacs
Post by: mufcglen on December 27, 2014, 11:58:27 am
hi smudger how have you got the vac into places like where slates have come forward into the gutter, i presume the vac sucks from the side of the slate?
Title: Re: gutter vacs
Post by: Smudger on December 27, 2014, 01:03:32 pm
If you have a solid pole, ( ie ali or carbon ) and mos importantly the top bend you can simply get on the leading edge of the slate or tile and push in back into place.

If you have a silicone bend then you can't do it.


Darran

Title: Re: gutter vacs
Post by: mufcglen on December 27, 2014, 04:47:40 pm
cool cheers fella ;)
Title: Re: gutter vacs
Post by: G & M on December 28, 2014, 03:06:31 pm
Although we have a gutter vac we don't use it that often because the gap between the tiles /slate and the gutter are not wide enough in many cases. And to be honest it is often faster with the ladder.
Title: Re: gutter vacs
Post by: Smudger on December 28, 2014, 03:37:32 pm
You need a range of nozzle ends, this will help with narrow access

Darran
Title: Re: gutter vacs
Post by: David stewart on December 28, 2014, 05:48:49 pm
Darran, does the gutter vac have enough power to unblock downpipes or do you use the old method of removing the bottom section and pushing a hose up it to clear it?
Title: Re: gutter vacs
Post by: Smudger on December 28, 2014, 08:37:03 pm
Generally it has enough to pull out the plug (blockage) it's helpful if it's wet as this form a better seal around the nozzle end.

If the down pipe is blocked at the bottom we then take it apart as an extra service

Darran
Title: Re: gutter vacs
Post by: David stewart on December 28, 2014, 09:20:30 pm
Generally it has enough to pull out the plug (blockage) it's helpful if it's wet as this form a better seal around the nozzle end.

If the down pipe is blocked at the bottom we then take it apart as an extra service

Darran
It's probably been asked before on here but what model of gutter vac are you using? Have a Clarke one with alloy poles and while it's ok I am thinking of updating to something more powerful and carbon poles etc
Title: Re: gutter vacs
Post by: Smudger on December 28, 2014, 09:48:07 pm
Omni vac ( now over 5 yr old ). Upgraded to carbon poles earlier this year, made a big difference on the larger properties 8)

The new nilfisk with suck and blow is supposed to be really good

Darran
Title: Re: gutter vacs
Post by: David stewart on December 28, 2014, 10:15:57 pm
Omni vac ( now over 5 yr old ). Upgraded to carbon poles earlier this year, made a big difference on the larger properties 8)

The new nilfisk with suck and blow is supposed to be really good

Darran
Thanks I must check them out here  :)
Title: Re: gutter vacs
Post by: Smudger on December 28, 2014, 10:26:43 pm
For the carbon poles I have a link to the supplier, they are a good third cheaper than any of the gutter vac suppliers

Darran
Title: Re: gutter vacs
Post by: paulben on December 29, 2014, 03:16:38 am
Who does the cheaper carbon poles
Title: Re: gutter vacs
Post by: Smudger on December 29, 2014, 10:45:34 am
http://carbonfibretubes.co.uk
Title: Re: gutter vacs
Post by: Total shine cleaning services on December 30, 2014, 12:31:16 am
Hi Darren, is it the 50.3external diameter you go for, and do they push together or do you need to get the ends tapered..?

Thanks

Graham
Title: Re: gutter vacs
Post by: paulben on December 30, 2014, 05:04:24 am
How much per 2.5m length do they work out at polorbrite is £75 per 2m with tapered ends
Title: Re: gutter vacs
Post by: Smudger on December 30, 2014, 08:21:56 am
Yes 50.3 o/d yes the ends are tapered so modular fitting, although they do a collar version as well if you prefer but you need to email them. 

2.5 meter length was £71 + vat 

Polarbrite is £75 + vat for a 2 meter length.

A little more compedative than they were several months ago

Darran
Title: Re: gutter vacs
Post by: Dave Willis on December 30, 2014, 08:51:52 am
Wait 'till the end section falls off the guttering - might wish you had ladders then. Also I've had the top section of my pole left swinging from the gutter a couple of times  ;D.
I hate ladders but personally I wouldn't offer a gutter cleaning service without them. I've had 's' bends so badly blocked that they couldn't be cleared by hand let alone a vac - they had to be dismantled and brought down. Nozzles sometimes catch and knock the clip apart - watch out for that.