Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Deangsi on December 22, 2014, 08:02:07 pm
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Hi guys please don't shoot me for this, but iv looked at various programs window cleaner pro, cleaner planner,George etc
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Sorry hadn't finished lol, to me they seem really complicated and a bit of a waste of time, iv always had all my work in a diary highlight when done ticked when paid. I just don't understand why you would want anything else. I'm not very good with technology so please explain why you lot sware by them :)
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Nothing wrong with it.
But it only allows you to record what you've done on any given day.
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Lose a paper diary you are up poope creek
I use paper and round software.
Mr B
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All my work is in my head I know every house what its price is, etc I have over 200 customers and I know plenty have 400 plus's but id be able to start a new diary if I lost it
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I wouldn't.
Can you invoice from your diary, can you search for customers, can you print your end of year accounts within seconds? Can you see your expenses list?
What you are doing is fine but it's just a diary.
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Don't do commercial so invoicing is not a problem any jobs I do that require one I have a duplicate book, I always put all my expence reciepts in an envelope and write the total on it every month, I understand for some people you really need it but for someone like me or most one man bands I cant see any majour use, I do proper books every year and file my tax return the same as the rest.
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To be fair, you appear to struggle posting a topic on a forum. A diary is almost certainly the best fit for you.
;D
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All my work is in my head I know every house what its price is, etc I have over 200 customers and I know plenty have 400 plus's but id be able to start a new diary if I lost it
Fella I bought my round from had over 300 customers all in his head!
He knew what they owed, when they skipped cleans, and had pretty much his year end figures all in his swede!!
I couldn't do it mate. I've got less than that now and can't remember them all.
If you can remember all your customers, fair play to you.
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Last night I went to cinema and whilst at the cinema Cleaner planner textd all the customers for today to leave the gates open.
I text customers at a set time. Text em too early and they forget.
Just one example of why I use a program.
If the book works for you use it.
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That is a fair comment in all truthfulness.
;D
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Last night I went to cinema and whilst at the cinema Cleaner planner textd all the customers for today to leave the gates open.
I text customers at a set time. Text em too early and they forget.
Just one example of why I use a program.
If the book works for you use it.
These are the sorts of constructive comments I was looking for, that's a really useful tool. I genuinely know nothing about these programs and looking for comments from people who use them and now find they couldn't work without them.
And no word of a Li I can remember every one of my houses and when they are due. I have to check the book for previous moth debt
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a day a page diary is what I use and right now it is great.
But if I get bigger next then I will probably start using software
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I seriously would like to give cleaner planner a go as so many of you are using it and rate it, the last thing I tried that everyone was using was the best thing I ever dud work related (Gardiner carbon poles) and gutter vacuum
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At one stage I had about 280 customers in the diary and was still ok. Ditched slot of customers in last year tho. Only looking for quality customers these days
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Last night I went to cinema and whilst at the cinema Cleaner planner textd all the customers for today to leave the gates open.
I text customers at a set time. Text em too early and they forget.
Just one example of why I use a program.
If the book works for you use it.
These are the sorts of constructive comments I was looking for, that's a really useful tool. I genuinely know nothing about these programs and looking for comments from people who use them and now find they couldn't work without them.
And no word of a Li I can remember every one of my houses and when they are due. I have to check the book for previous moth debt
You're in the wrong job Derren.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1419281863_derren.jpg)
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Last night I went to cinema and whilst at the cinema Cleaner planner textd all the customers for today to leave the gates open.
I text customers at a set time. Text em too early and they forget.
Just one example of why I use a program.
If the book works for you use it.
These are the sorts of constructive comments I was looking for, that's a really useful tool. I genuinely know nothing about these programs and looking for comments from people who use them and now find they couldn't work without them.
And no word of a Li I can remember every one of my houses and when they are due. I have to check the book for previous moth debt
You don't need cleaner planner though for this. You can use just text local :)
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Last night I went to cinema and whilst at the cinema Cleaner planner textd all the customers for today to leave the gates open.
I text customers at a set time. Text em too early and they forget.
Just one example of why I use a program.
If the book works for you use it.
These are the sorts of constructive comments I was looking for, that's a really useful tool. I genuinely know nothing about these programs and looking for comments from people who use them and now find they couldn't work without them.
And no word of a Li I can remember every one of my houses and when they are due. I have to check the book for previous moth debt
You're in the wrong job Derren.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1419281863_derren.jpg)
;D well I do try
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I do both got 4 guys work for me we believe our round books are much quicker.you can spend hours on these window cleaning programs if you put the time in you can't beet them we have other 1500 addresses took me over a month to list them all
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Can you remember everyones names, phone numbers, email addresses, how much they owe, when theyre due? I certainly cant, this is why i use it. I know you use a diary but you have to physically check this, for the likes of cleaner planner, window cleaner pro...it tells you all this and when theyre due at a click of a button.
As pure h20 says about texting, just one of the features. For me GoCardless integration is amazing, one click and i pull the money owed to me.
Having it all laid out on my mobile, and which order to go in. It just works...however you do whatever works for you...having a system to think all these things for me is just one less stress.
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Why do you need to remember anything ? I have a list of to do customers which I tick and date when cleaned,
When I get home I just write the same list onto the next day they are due.
I have a separate book with all my customers details at home if there's ever a need to contact them.
I never do more than 15 to 20 properties in a day so its no big deal to me.
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You hand write every list?
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Honestly it doesn't take me long at all to write my worksheet from day to day,and to be honest I don't have any customers numbers and in 5 years I havnt needed any. But times are changing and maybe I should look into it properly, I can see it has a lot of benefits but it would take an age to put all my customers on it then get phone numbers of everyone etc.
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I have most my customer numbers or some form of contact. Can chase debts up, ask them to leave gates open etc.
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You hand write every list?
Yes it not hard for me as most of my daily work would be on the same street or road.
So just put the street name at the top followed by the house number and price charged.
Street name.
12 £10
15 £10
18 £10
19 £15
20 £10
22 £18
Street name
and the next set of numbers, like I said I usually only do 15 to 20 properties per day.
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I print a weekly worksheet out & record each day in a A4 week to view diary. Done this for over ten years no probs, I also know every customer & every price in my head too!! :) I probably average about ten jobs per day, no estate work etc.
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You hand write every list?
Yes it not hard for me as most of my daily work would be on the same street or road.
So just put the street name at the top followed by the house number and price charged.
Street name.
12 £10
15 £10
18 £10
19 £15
20 £10
22 £18
Street name
and the next set of numbers, like I said I usually only do 15 to 20 properties per day.
Do you keep all your old sheets then?
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I use my calendar on my email. it allows me put details of customers
obviously date of clean and re occurance of event, weekly,monthly etc
and I can print daily weekly etc lists from it.
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You hand write every list?
Yes it not hard for me as most of my daily work would be on the same street or road.
So just put the street name at the top followed by the house number and price charged.
Street name.
12 £10
15 £10
18 £10
19 £15
20 £10
22 £18
Street name
and the next set of numbers, like I said I usually only do 15 to 20 properties per day.
Do you keep all your old sheets then?
Don't use sheets its a dairy and I keep them all, to be honest I have never looked into any other way of doing it
hadn't even heard of these programs until I joined this forum.
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I went to CP a couple of months ago after a good 15 years of work swimming around in my head. This is the major plus for me that i don't have the headache of trying to remember it all. I enter into the software and forget about it or even look for scraps of paper etc i used to jot down quotes or whatever, everything i write down is on the app. Definitely worth a try imo.
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You hand write every list?
Yes it not hard for me as most of my daily work would be on the same street or road.
So just put the street name at the top followed by the house number and price charged.
Street name.
12 £10
15 £10
18 £10
19 £15
20 £10
22 £18
Street name
and the next set of numbers, like I said I usually only do 15 to 20 properties per day.
Do you keep all your old sheets then?
I use sheets, as I use excel, I keep the last couple of years sheets.
Probably no need but makes me happy.
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I moved to George from a diary and set of tick sheets in April. I couldn't see the point but now it is so much quicker especially at the end of the day when you enter in who's been done and paid.
The time consuming bit was entering on over 400 names and addresses but now it is so much easier and quicker.
I only invoice about 8 customers a month and still use Word but will probably change next April.
I also started entering expenses on in October.
The reports and forecasts are helpful too.
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Having had issues with accounts and data ::)roll ::)roll I am more than happy to be on cloud based software with updates.
I am also going to be keeping paper records of the cloud software. So every month i will just print out income and what i have collected (cash/online/card/bacs etc)
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I moved to George from a diary and set of tick sheets in April. I couldn't see the point but now it is so much quicker especially at the end of the day when you enter in who's been done and paid.
The time consuming bit was entering on over 400 names and addresses but now it is so much easier and quicker.
I only invoice about 8 customers a month and still use Word but will probably change next April.
I also started entering expenses on in October.
The reports and forecasts are helpful too.
I loved george and thought it was great but i tend to have a little OCD with checking stuff. For me. If i am bored and i check my phone and i see someone has paid, within 10 secs i can update it when i am out. Now some might say there is no differential then between work and social. But i get emails when shopping, down the pub etc etc. Some CAN wait, some cant. For me its all about providing the best service possible and satisfying my OCD.
Its like AMAZON prime. I don't need it and managed years without it. HOWEVER knowing i can get parcels next day and on Sundays makes it worth it. Now i look back and wonder how i done without it. Even with my van, when i turn round corners it lights the curbs up. I work on new estates and collect in evenings. Some roads are not done so the curbs are SILL rippers!!!! How i managed without damaging my old van i don't know.
Its the same with excel,george and cleaner planner.
I did excel, i did george and i am now on CP. I couldn't imagine doing without excel, then george, now cp.
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Probably no need but makes me happy.
Definitely a need. According to HMRC you should keep the last 6 financial years.
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Probably no need but makes me happy.
Definitely a need. According to HMRC you should keep the last 6 financial years.
I meant just the papers.
All the actual records are on the Mac for her maj...
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You hand write every list?
Yes it not hard for me as most of my daily work would be on the same street or road.
So just put the street name at the top followed by the house number and price charged.
Street name.
12 £10
15 £10
18 £10
19 £15
20 £10
22 £18
Street name
and the next set of numbers, like I said I usually only do 15 to 20 properties per day.
Do you keep all your old sheets then?
Don't use sheets its a dairy and I keep them all, to be honest I have never looked into any other way of doing it
hadn't even heard of these programs until I joined this forum.
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