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Title: Quick Vivaro question
Post by: Marko on December 20, 2014, 03:06:11 pm
Looking at an 06 plate 2900 di Vivaro tomorrow -
Anyone got one?
Will it be ok with a 650ltr tank in?
Anything in particular I should look out for?

Or are they crap?

Cheers 😄
Title: Re: Quick Vivaro question
Post by: jk999 on December 20, 2014, 03:11:05 pm
I've  had 2006  vivaro  7 years got 700 litre  tank in it . It's carrys  it ok and also its like driving  a car .I have the long  wheel  base
Title: Re: Quick Vivaro question
Post by: Bay View WCS on December 20, 2014, 04:01:57 pm
I have the 54 reg with same engine ans SWB. 650 ltr tank bolted down in the back and pulls away very well. As said drives like a car with no issues.
Title: Re: Quick Vivaro question
Post by: PoleKing on December 20, 2014, 04:27:29 pm
The Di is the non turbo version.
Very slow.
Especially with weight on.
And less economical than the Dti or CDti.

I'm on my 2nd Trafic and really like them but I wouldn't buy the non-turbo version.
A mate of mine has one and laments the power.

On the plus side, least that's one less thing that can go wrong.
Title: Re: Quick Vivaro question
Post by: Walter Mitty on December 20, 2014, 04:53:37 pm
Looking at an 06 plate 2900 di Vivaro tomorrow -
Anyone got one?
Will it be ok with a 650ltr tank in?
Anything in particular I should look out for?

Or are they crap?

Cheers 😄

Weight wise the tank is fine.  The bit to look out for IMO is the mileage.  A lot of expensive things can go wrong once the mileage starts clocking high.  Personally, I'd rather have a diesel van that sounds like a diesel van than something smooth that goes wrong.  I'm biased at the moment though.  My Trafic has done 122,000 and I'm waiting on the repair quotation to see if I'll keep it or use it as part deposit on the next van (the dealer is aware it has a current issue).
Title: Re: Quick Vivaro question
Post by: Marko on December 20, 2014, 04:59:15 pm
The one I'm looking at is a swb ex 'bt' - apparently with extensive service history.has 125k on the clock though so not sure what to look for?
With the mileage, does this mean things will start going wrong sooner rather than later?
Cheers all
Looking at an 06 plate 2900 di Vivaro tomorrow -
Anyone got one?
Will it be ok with a 650ltr tank in?
Anything in particular I should look out for?

Or are they crap?

Cheers 😄

Weight wise the tank is fine.  The bit to look out for IMO is the mileage.  A lot of expensive things can go wrong once the mileage starts clocking high.  Personally, I'd rather have a diesel van that sounds like a diesel van than something smooth that goes wrong.  I'm biased at the moment though.  My Trafic has done 122,000 and I'm waiting on the repair quotation to see if I'll keep it or use it as part deposit on the next van (the dealer is aware it has a current issue).
Title: Re: Quick Vivaro question
Post by: Marko on December 20, 2014, 05:12:07 pm
The Di is the non turbo version.
Very slow.
Especially with weight on.
And less economical than the Dti or CDti.

I'm on my 2nd Trafic and really like them but I wouldn't buy the non-turbo version.
A mate of mine has one and laments the power.

On the plus side, least that's one less thing that can go wrong.
Bit confused now as I have looked up several vivaro forums and all say the DI vivaro is a turbo model??
http://www.wisebuyers.co.uk/motoring/van-reviews/Vauxhall/Vivaro+%282001-06%29/66/
Here's one just for example
Title: Re: Quick Vivaro question
Post by: Walter Mitty on December 20, 2014, 05:29:12 pm
The one I'm looking at is a swb ex 'bt' - apparently with extensive service history.has 125k on the clock though so not sure what to look for?
With the mileage, does this mean things will start going wrong sooner rather than later?
Cheers all


From my own experiences, I wouldn't touch a Trafic/Vivaro/Primastar on that type of mileage.  Someone else's experiences may be different though.  I would only consider one of those vans if bought new so that I could run it for 5-6 years (45,000 - 54,000 miles for me).  But any second hand van is a potential risk if on high mileage.
Title: Re: Quick Vivaro question
Post by: Marko on December 20, 2014, 05:36:59 pm
Ok - got about 3k to spend before the end of Jan (my Pug experts MOT is up then and i want to get rid)

Any ideas, suggestions??

Thanks for any help 😊
Title: Re: Quick Vivaro question
Post by: Clever Forum Name on December 20, 2014, 06:05:39 pm
On a side note i wouldn't touch a BT van.

I got burnt on a combo and my friend on a vivaro.

Yes they service them and replace parts at no expense but due to the nature of the job its not wise imo to buy one :)
Title: Re: Quick Vivaro question
Post by: Smudger on December 20, 2014, 06:32:21 pm
Nice van, have an 07 2900 LWB with 2 man setup and 600 ltr tank.

Be aware of the design fault on models from June 06 to sept 09 on vivaro - traffic - and primaster which affects approx 1/3 built in this period, where water drips into the engine bay and down onto the injectors causing them to fail and also seize into the head, they are almost I possible to get out, vauxhall quoted £1295 + vat to change the injectors (4) BUT told me its a dead cert the head will get damaged so that would be another £1500 + vat.

Found a specialist, took 8 days to pull out injectors and replace £1500 + vat
I was going to sell van as we have re organised our biz, but now will run this van into the ground.

Before buying any vivaro traffic primaster, check to see if there is corrosion on the injectors, or they been replaced if not I wouldn't touch it with a brodex pole. FSH on these mean nothing as I found out !!  Mine had full vauxhall history ( Anglian water ) and 107k on the clock lovely in and out, but with the injectors failing it was a bad, bad buy

Darran
Title: Re: Quick Vivaro question
Post by: Deangsi on December 20, 2014, 06:45:35 pm
Main dealer prices are a joke, iv got a mate would take them injectors out and replace for £200 no parts included, generally you can heli coil the thread if its damaged, I know people who have done the same with spark plugs
Title: Re: Quick Vivaro question
Post by: Deangsi on December 20, 2014, 06:48:21 pm
As mad as it soands you may be better of going with one with mega miles 200k etc with history like new gearbox replacement engine etc ny mate bought one with 274k had new engine and box recently £1500 he paid its been an ace van for over a year now so its payed for itself
Title: Re: Quick Vivaro question
Post by: Smudger on December 20, 2014, 06:49:01 pm
Sorry mate you can't, they need a hydraulic press, all the anchor bolts break because they are damaged by being under water most of the life of the van.

These are press fitted NO THREAD !!

Darran
Title: Re: Quick Vivaro question
Post by: PoleKing on December 20, 2014, 07:01:15 pm
The Di is the non turbo version.
Very slow.
Especially with weight on.
And less economical than the Dti or CDti.

I'm on my 2nd Trafic and really like them but I wouldn't buy the non-turbo version.
A mate of mine has one and laments the power.

On the plus side, least that's one less thing that can go wrong.
Bit confused now as I have looked up several vivaro forums and all say the DI vivaro is a turbo model??
http://www.wisebuyers.co.uk/motoring/van-reviews/Vauxhall/Vivaro+%282001-06%29/66/
Here's one just for example

No mate. I looked at them extensively before I bought my first one.
Di is Diesel Injection
Dti is Diesel Turbo injection
CDti is common rail diesel turbo injection

That's what I remember anyway.
As I say, my mate has the DI and he doesn't rate it at all. He's got a 650 in too.

Added after: just googled and found this:
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=22685
Title: Re: Quick Vivaro question
Post by: Rob@Blast off on December 20, 2014, 09:43:46 pm
mines a 2001 di with a turbo,
done 134K looks and drives great but occasionally all the warning lights come on the dash but i'm not worried as i'm just going to drive it into the ground.
(http://i643.photobucket.com/albums/uu156/robkav/Mobile%20Uploads/WP_000881.jpg) (http://s643.photobucket.com/user/robkav/media/Mobile%20Uploads/WP_000881.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Quick Vivaro question
Post by: deeege on December 20, 2014, 10:09:00 pm
I've got a 2006 Vivaro with 140k on the clock.

Gearbox went at 95k - £900

Power steering pump at 130k - £200

Apart from that it's been a pretty decent van. Starting to get expensive now though, especially on fuel so will be replacing with a new berlingo/dispatch in a few months.
Title: Re: Quick Vivaro question
Post by: Smudger on December 20, 2014, 10:32:17 pm
mines a 2001 di with a turbo,
done 134K looks and drives great but occasionally all the warning lights come on the dash but i'm not worried as i'm just going to drive it into the ground.
(http://i643.photobucket.com/albums/uu156/robkav/Mobile%20Uploads/WP_000881.jpg) (http://s643.photobucket.com/user/robkav/media/Mobile%20Uploads/WP_000881.jpg.html)

That's what happened to mine, came on for a second or 2, bit of judder then normal again, six weeks later sluggish as hell.
Mk1 upto 2006 I understand are better as they have the 1.9 engine although these I'm told can have gearbox issues, mk2 had a different engine 2.0 and no gearbox probs ( less so ) but it comes to light injector issues

Darran
Title: Re: Quick Vivaro question
Post by: Rob@Blast off on December 20, 2014, 11:08:30 pm
Fingers crossed mine doesn't go the same way.
If when something that costs loads breaks i will cut my losses and look for some thing else a bit bigger but still with a low roof.
These vans are great to drive but the build quality is poor yet they don't seem to rust away like the transits do and the repair bills are scary.
Not sure what van to go for next.
Title: Re: Quick Vivaro question
Post by: David Kent @ KentKleen on December 21, 2014, 10:37:06 am
Or just buy a vivaro/traffic/primestar with the engine version that does not have the water round the injector problem.  ;D
Title: Re: Quick Vivaro question
Post by: LWC on December 21, 2014, 11:10:45 am
The Di is the non turbo version.
Very slow.
Especially with weight on.
And less economical than the Dti or CDti.

I'm on my 2nd Trafic and really like them but I wouldn't buy the non-turbo version.
A mate of mine has one and laments the power.

On the plus side, least that's one less thing that can go wrong.
Bit confused now as I have looked up several vivaro forums and all say the DI vivaro is a turbo model??
http://www.wisebuyers.co.uk/motoring/van-reviews/Vauxhall/Vivaro+%282001-06%29/66/
Here's one just for example

No mate. I looked at them extensively before I bought my first one.
Di is Diesel Injection
Dti is Diesel Turbo injection
CDti is common rail diesel turbo injection

That's what I remember anyway.
As I say, my mate has the DI and he doesn't rate it at all. He's got a 650 in too.

Added after: just googled and found this:
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=22685



I had a Vivaro Di that was a turbo, im sure Di's are turbos. My combo is a Di and is a turbo, Dti's are injected and CDTI is the common rail one.
Title: Re: Quick Vivaro question
Post by: PoleKing on December 21, 2014, 12:37:55 pm
The Di is the non turbo version.
Very slow.
Especially with weight on.
And less economical than the Dti or CDti.

I'm on my 2nd Trafic and really like them but I wouldn't buy the non-turbo version.
A mate of mine has one and laments the power.

On the plus side, least that's one less thing that can go wrong.
Bit confused now as I have looked up several vivaro forums and all say the DI vivaro is a turbo model??
http://www.wisebuyers.co.uk/motoring/van-reviews/Vauxhall/Vivaro+%282001-06%29/66/
Here's one just for example

No mate. I looked at them extensively before I bought my first one.
Di is Diesel Injection
Dti is Diesel Turbo injection
CDti is common rail diesel turbo injection

That's what I remember anyway.
As I say, my mate has the DI and he doesn't rate it at all. He's got a 650 in too.

Added after: just googled and found this:
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=22685



I had a Vivaro Di that was a turbo, im sure Di's are turbos. My combo is a Di and is a turbo, Dti's are injected and CDTI is the common rail one.

I may have to stand corrected on that then.
Ive only researched it, never actually had one.
Title: Re: Quick Vivaro question
Post by: LWC on December 21, 2014, 12:39:50 pm
Your link confirms it pole king ;)

Opel/Vauxhall: DI and DTI (Diesel (Turbo) Injection, albeit both are turbocharged, the DI versions are less powerful)
Title: Re: Quick Vivaro question
Post by: LWC on December 21, 2014, 12:43:42 pm
That said i had the Di and i thought it flew. I loved it! Regret selling it.