Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Lee Burbidge on December 15, 2014, 10:45:10 am
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Does anyone on here have a Facelift system?
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I was just looking into these too. so keen to get some feedback also.
Only thing that worries me after watching the video on their website where the system is stripped back it looks rather top heavy to me. The bulk of the water storage is at the top from what I can see. I would prefer water to be stored as low as possible in the van to help with weight shifting. Am I wrong ?
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You probably wouldn't notice it, they do look neat and tidy, but it's better to do it yourself than pay over the odds for a system, it cost me £700 to do mine, and it was pretty easy really, check out the video from lonk below. It costs a fraction of the price of a bought system, and you can choose how to lay it out etc...
http://youtu.be/R84xXDdobYE
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Top heavy is what i thought, it got to make a difference.
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http://www.faceliftsystems.co.uk/
Yes, looks nice and tidy, just a shame the bulk of the tank is at the top rather than being designed with it at the bottom.
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Wibble,
The bulk of the tank is definitely not in the top of the system. It has been designed to maximise the space of a real world working van while providing complete protection from the knocks and bangs of day to day use. We saw the flaws in the majority of systems with all the components exposed and decide to do something better. Most systems take up a large area of a van floor making it extremely inefficient space wise. We saw the need for something to maximise their biggest investment and utilise it as a workhorse.
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stephen fox how much would one of these systems on a 600litre be for delivery only system please
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Stephen,
Facelift don't do enough videos and examples of there products, when compared to other companies, it's always hard to find and see what your products do, how they work, what they look like etc.
Could you not start improving this area of your marketing? I am
A fan of the facelift poles as stated in other posts, but it's always a bit of a task getting any info on your products. Eg the new neon pole - show us some demos? Talk about features. Same thing with the system mentioned above, you've shown us photos, so what about videos etx? I think it would really help the company...
The website is really un-informative!
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Hate it when companies don't put there prices on makes me just want to go elsewhere >:(
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Hate it when companies don't put there prices on makes me just want to go elsewhere >:(
Yep add that to my point... Lol
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That's because they like to judge how much they can sting you for !
Darran
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Jakey,
We have a lot of videos, etc planned for next year but even better than that, we do a number of real world demos every week! Any one interested can get in touch and see for themselves, first hand.
All prices are available on WCW site. The Facelift site is basically a global shop window which gains a lot of interest overseas so the price is dependant on a number of factors.
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The prices are on the window cleaning warehouse site.They start from £1595.
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Jakey,
We have a lot of videos, etc planned for next year but even better than that, we do a number of real world demos every week! Any one interested can get in touch and see for themselves, first hand.
All prices are available on WCW site. The Facelift site is basically a global shop window which gains a lot of interest overseas so the price is dependant on a number of factors.
Fair enough,
Maybe show more videos if poss though...
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Thanks Stephen,
Could you also pop some pics up of the system with the cover off to show us the tank format please. The one on the video on the website looks as thought the tank is large at the top. Thanks for your help.
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The prices are on the window cleaning warehouse site.They start from £1595.
cant find prices of the neon
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Foxy, did you do any data on how this system would perform in a crash.... one comment that I hear a lot especially in Dorset early this year, not just here but how top heavy the system appears. Does this affect the integrity? Im guessing it does not and looks can be deceiving.
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Yes, I would be keen to know if it's been crash tested.
On, lets say the mid range tank - 500ltr, at full capacity what is the ratio of water stored at the top of the tank (above the components), the ratio running behind the components and the base.
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The prices are on the window cleaning warehouse site.They start from £1595.
cant find prices of the neon
New @FaceliftSystems Phoenix NeoN will arrive January 1st. Officially the Worlds lightest WFP Only available from Window Cleaning Warehouse. ~Preorder NOW.
Phoenix NeoN
CODE SIZE Reach Sections Weight £ Sell
FNE22 22ft 26ft 5 800g 399.95
FNE25 25ft 30ft 5 950g 439.95
FNE30 30ft 35ft 6 1175g 529.95
FNE35 35ft 40ft 7 1440g 629.95
FNE40 40ft 45ft 8 ???? 709.95
https://www.facebook.com/WindowCleaningWarehouse?fref=nf
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The prices are on the window cleaning warehouse site.They start from £1595.
cant find prices of the neon
New @FaceliftSystems Phoenix NeoN will arrive January 1st. Officially the Worlds lightest WFP Only available from Window Cleaning Warehouse. ~Preorder NOW.
Phoenix NeoN
CODE SIZE Reach Sections Weight £ Sell
FNE22 22ft 26ft 5 800g 399.95
FNE25 25ft 30ft 5 950g 439.95
FNE30 30ft 35ft 6 1175g 529.95
FNE35 35ft 40ft 7 1440g 629.95
FNE40 40ft 45ft 8 ???? 709.95
https://www.facebook.com/WindowCleaningWarehouse?fref=nf
Ta! Excluding vat I suppose...
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After viewing a customers xtreme pole yesterday(had worn badly) , I can see that there is a need for some competition.....
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After viewing a customers xtreme pole yesterday(had worn badly) , I can see that there is a need for some competition.....
Not like you to come on only to slag a Gardiner Product Craig! ::)roll ::)roll
Come and view mine, Had it since release & still as good as new. ;)
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I can only comment on the one i saw yesterday, and can and will comment on what ever i like, despite any loaded onslaught...!
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I can only comment on the one i saw yesterday, and can and will comment on what ever i like, despite any loaded onslaught...!
Maybe try improving your own products instead, your constant underhand tactics are both ugly & extremely boring! ;)
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I can only comment on the one i saw yesterday, and can and will comment on what ever i like, despite any loaded onslaught...!
Maybe try improving your own products instead, your constant underhand tactics are both ugly & extremely boring! ;)
that will be it now from craig until next june ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I think this topic is on Van systems not poles. There is another thread for poles of recent :)
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Yes, I would be keen to know if it's been crash tested.
On, lets say the mid range tank - 500ltr, at full capacity what is the ratio of water stored at the top of the tank (above the components), the ratio running behind the components and the base.
A few questions and picture requests have been asked about the Facelift Van Systems. I wonder if they will be gratefully answered?
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Paul,
Can you distill the questions you would like answered?
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"Yes, I would be keen to know if it's been crash tested.
On, lets say the mid range tank - 500ltr, at full capacity what is the ratio of water stored at the top of the tank (above the components), the ratio running behind the components and the base."
Also think there are few picture requests too including one without the front cover to show the tank shape.
Thanks
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Official crash testing is something we are looking at for next year... System has only been out for 18 weeks and have over 50 on the road as of this date (some being fitted right now). The system is weighted at the base along with steel bracket running the length of the unit.
Ratio I couldn't give you exact figures as our design engineer is off on holidays until the new year.
Having issues with photos.... can email some over if you want fox@wcw....
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Thanks Stephen.
The system does look great, and I like the idea of the components being hidden away.
Good luck with it, and look forward to seeing how this pans out before I need a new kit in the spring/summer if all goes to plan with the new Van.
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Hi
We have had one fitted in to one of our vans and very happy with the results and plan for more in the new year
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Hi
We have had one fitted in to one of our vans and very happy with the results and plan for more in the new year
What's made you change from ionics?
Read an interview in the ionics magazine with you and you seemed happy and very pro ionics.
I must admit I do like the face lift system and they look like they are really trying to come up with new designs and good products.
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I think the clue is in the name... :-\
Darran