Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: dazmond on December 12, 2014, 06:39:05 pm
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ive used it every day for 95% of my work but top 2 sections completely worn down now and both sections have split at the bottom.got fed up with it today so ive got my emergency pole out for tomorrow which is a 22 SLX BUT resi neck wont fit in the top!its too tight a fit!so ive had to put a carbon gooseneck in the top instead. ::)roll
i think ill buy 2 brand new top sections for extreme as the other sections are ok.do they come with the metal clamping band now?
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one word for you Daz.................. EBAY ;)
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I think that's a good run from an extreme Daz
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Just buy a brand new one Dazmondeo - theres peeps out there that havent got the nouse to motivate themselves, but you my boy were born with a heaving wallet and your middle name is 'Money? PAH! Im bleeding loaded me'.
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so ive got my emergency pole out for tomorrow which is a 22 SLX BUT resi neck wont fit in the top!its too tight a fit!so ive had to put a carbon gooseneck in the top instead. ::)roll
wow with ALL that extra weight you wont have any energy left to go drumming / visit the girlfriend ... ;D ;D
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You could of course, just whip a couple of sections off your other Extreme pole for now.
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You could of course, just whip a couple of sections off your other Extreme pole for now.
or an slx (if he still has one)
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ive used it on virtually everything.f/s/g cleans and conny roofs etc as well over the last 18 months.yep they dont last as long but good light poles.
i think ill sell it on to another window cleaner i know for peanuts as i know he s struggling a bit.if he tapes up the 2 top banded sections itll last a bit longer. ;D
im gonna order another now if alex has got any in stock! :)
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??? Just buy two new sections - far cheaper.
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You could of course, just whip a couple of sections off your other Extreme pole for now.
i could dave but my 47 will last me years as it only gets used about 10 times a month.i dont wanna spoil it! ;)
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I told you to stick with the Brodex alloy there wouldn't even be a mark on the paintwork
in 18 months.
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??? Just buy two new sections - far cheaper.
i could dave but id rather get rid now and buy a new one.plus this year ive earned 6 grand more than last year which is nearly the price of 12 EXTREME 25 POLES!! :)
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We just replace sections. It's false economy doing anything different.
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A good mate of mine had a CLX 18 for 4 years. He's a human version of a Jack Russel. Never cleaned it, never maintained it. It lasted 4 years but he totally anialated it :-)
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We just replace sections. It's false economy doing anything different.
Why is that its only money he would be paying in tax anyway is it not?
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We just replace sections. It's false economy doing anything different.
Why is that its only money he would be paying in tax anyway is it not?
How do you come to that conclusion?
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We just replace sections. It's false economy doing anything different.
Why is that its only money he would be paying in tax anyway is it not?
How do you come to that conclusion?
Cant he put it against his tax return?
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Yes, but only 30% of what he pays for it will be deducted from his tax bill, not the total cost, which would in fact mean everything would be free and we all know that isn't the case don't we children :P
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We just replace sections. It's false economy doing anything different.
Why is that its only money he would be paying in tax anyway is it not?
How do you come to that conclusion?
Cant he put it against his tax return?
Yes but he'll be spending £500 to save approx £100-£125 in tax/NI- when you take into account 10k tax relief.
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I think it's a bit of a joke these extremes wearing down like they do....
Alex Gardiner said it was the aquadapter that was wearing mine down...well guess what I've took it off the last few months and the sections are still wearing down at the same rate!!!
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ive used it every day for 95% of my work but top 2 sections completely worn down now and both sections have split at the bottom.got fed up with it today so ive got my emergency pole out for tomorrow which is a 22 SLX BUT resi neck wont fit in the top!its too tight a fit!so ive had to put a carbon gooseneck in the top instead. ::)roll
i think ill buy 2 brand new top sections for extreme as the other sections are ok.do they come with the metal clamping band now?
How the mighty have fallen ;D
No joke but my extreme is only 6 months old and I'm already tightening the clamps - hope i get another year though but i doubt it.
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I think it's a bit of a joke these extremes wearing down like they do....
Alex Gardiner said it was the aquadapter that was wearing mine down...well guess what I've took it off the last few months and the sections are still wearing down at the same rate!!!
the new extremes have stainless steel composite clamping bands which should reduce wear on the clamping points mate.to be honest its the 2 top sections that are worn down and cracked and splintered at the ends.the other 3 sections are fine.i think ill keep this extreme as a spare and i will probably buy 2 top sections in time.
i think its a fine balance between weight v robustness in a pole like this.the SLX is a lot more hard wearing if you want poles to last longer.ill be using my 22ft slx today and its perfectly fine but i like an even lighter,more rigid pole as my day to day pole.
the money isnt an issue as over the course of 18 months poling day after day the lightness,rigidity and sheer ease of use makes it worthwhile spending the extra.im hoping ill get 2 years out of the new one with the new bands.
and the old one still has life left in it if i replace the 2 top sections.
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so ive got my emergency pole out for tomorrow which is a 22 SLX BUT resi neck wont fit in the top!its too tight a fit!so ive had to put a carbon gooseneck in the top instead. ::)roll
wow with ALL that extra weight you wont have any energy left to go drumming / visit the girlfriend ... ;D ;D
thats why i need a new extreme pole FAST!!! ;D ;D ;D
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I think it's a bit of a joke these extremes wearing down like they do....
Alex Gardiner said it was the aquadapter that was wearing mine down...well guess what I've took it off the last few months and the sections are still wearing down at the same rate!!!
the new extremes have stainless steel composite clamping bands which should reduce wear on the clamping points mate.to be honest its the 2 top sections that are worn down and cracked and splintered at the ends.the other 3 sections are fine.i think ill keep this extreme as a spare and i will probably buy 2 top sections in time.
i think its a fine balance between weight v robustness in a pole like this.the SLX is a lot more hard wearing if you want poles to last longer.ill be using my 22ft slx today and its perfectly fine but i like an even lighter,more rigid pole as my day to day pole.
the money isnt an issue as over the course of 18 months poling day after day the lightness,rigidity and sheer ease of use makes it worthwhile spending the extra.im hoping ill get 2 years out of the new one with the new bands.
and the old one still has life left in it if i replace the 2 top sections.
I didn't know about the new sections Daz...thanks for pointing that out I hope they're an improvement :)
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Yes, but only 30% of what he pays for it will be deducted from his tax bill, not the total cost, which would in fact mean everything would be free and we all know that isn't the case don't we children :P
How come only 30 percent ? What about van finance etc I don't understand why it would only be 30 percent fir something you actually need that's of no personal use at all say you earn £16.000 a year and you have 2k worth of recipts fir fuel poles insurance whatever else surely you will only then get taxed on the remaining £14.000?
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Yes, but only 30% of what he pays for it will be deducted from his tax bill, not the total cost, which would in fact mean everything would be free and we all know that isn't the case don't we children :P
How come only 30 percent ? What about van finance etc I don't understand why it would only be 30 percent fir something you actually need that's of no personal use at all say you earn £16.000 a year and you have 2k worth of recipts fir fuel poles insurance whatever else surely you will only then get taxed on the remaining £14.000?
You're confusing tax bill with turnover Dean.
Daz spends £500 on a pole. He can deduct this £500 from his turnover- so this is £500 he will not be taxed on. 30% of 500 = 150. So Daz has spent £500 and as a result will not pay the £150 in tax that he would have done if he had not spent that £500. To make the point that you shouldn't spend unnecessarily to save tax- it cost Daz £500 to save £150!
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Or the Pole has cost him £350 ??
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Gardiners sell a package ATM , 2x extreme poles at reduced price .
Not sure if these are the old design.
As the new ones have the metal supports ? .
I know Alex doesn't advice it , but can a Aqua-adaptor be mounted onto a extreme still as I can't work without a Aqua-adaptor .
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Yes, but only 30% of what he pays for it will be deducted from his tax bill, not the total cost, which would in fact mean everything would be free and we all know that isn't the case don't we children :P
How come only 30 percent ? What about van finance etc I don't understand why it would only be 30 percent fir something you actually need that's of no personal use at all say you earn £16.000 a year and you have 2k worth of recipts fir fuel poles insurance whatever else surely you will only then get taxed on the remaining £14.000?
If you take your example, and assume tax is not due on the first £10,000 and that you're paying tax on the top £4,000 of that profit at 30%, so £1,200 due in tax.
Then you decide to spend £500 on a new pole. Turnover stays at £16,000 and expenses are now £2,500. Now profit is £13,500. You're taxed at 30% on the profit in excess of £10,000, so £3,500. Thus, the tax you pay is now £1,050.
Your tax bill has declined by £150, which is 30% of the cost of the pole.
It's a common misconception that something offset against tax is free (particularly by people not running their own business who think we're on some kind of gravy train) but it's not true. What you effectively get back is the tax on the purchase.
Hope that clarifies.
Vin
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Get the top 2 sections, the last one I bought had metal clamping areas which will cut down/stop wear rate.
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Yes, but only 30% of what he pays for it will be deducted from his tax bill, not the total cost, which would in fact mean everything would be free and we all know that isn't the case don't we children :P
How come only 30 percent ? What about van finance etc I don't understand why it would only be 30 percent fir something you actually need that's of no personal use at all say you earn £16.000 a year and you have 2k worth of recipts fir fuel poles insurance whatever else surely you will only then get taxed on the remaining £14.000?
If you take your example, and assume tax is not due on the first £10,000 and that you're paying tax on the top £4,000 of that profit at 30%, so £1,200 due in tax.
Then you decide to spend £500 on a new pole. Turnover stays at £16,000 and expenses are now £2,500. Now profit is £13,500. You're taxed at 30% on the profit in excess of £10,000, so £3,500. Thus, the tax you pay is now £1,050.
Your tax bill has declined by £150, which is 30% of the cost of the pole.
It's a common misconception that something offset against tax is free (particularly by people not running their own business who think we're on some kind of gravy train) but it's not true. What you effectively get back is the tax on the purchase.
Hope that clarifies.
Vin
Bang on!! ;)
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Not quite........ you don't physically get anything back at all. Just pay less to that nice Mr Taxman.
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Let's be honest 2 years is great my 18 ft clx just about done but it covers it's self in 4 hrs of taking out of the box so it's bloody dam cheap in respect of value return can't beat gardiners poles
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Not quite........ you don't physically get anything back at all. Just pay less to that nice Mr Taxman.
Well, yeah!! ;D
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I have a extreme 47, top two sections broke in half and landed on someone's conservatory, when I informed gardiner pole systems they said nothing to do with us which it isn't, but they should be something on the paperwork as when you get your new pole that states , when your pole gets to certain thickness mm etc then your pole should be chucked away.
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were you plastering a Kingdom Hall with it ???
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Ha ha I was rendering a back of someone's house with a trowel on the end with adapter attachment and must of put to much poop on the trowel hence snapped😳
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were you plastering a Kingdom Hall with it ???
You're very sharp at the moment David!! ;D
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I must get out more ;D
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lucky you I good firend binned his xtreme 25 after 13 months and went back to a slx
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I have a extreme 47, top two sections broke in half and landed on someone's conservatory, when I informed gardiner pole systems they said nothing to do with us which it isn't, but they should be something on the paperwork as when you get your new pole that states , when your pole gets to certain thickness mm etc then your pole should be chucked away.
Interesting. My 47' with 6 HS extensions snapped at the top section. On the way down another section broke.
I called Gardiners' office and had to email them pictures of the break.
18 hours later i had 2 brand new sections delivered. At no cost to myself.
The whole 'chucked away' statement-not gonna work is it. You'd need a micrometer to measure accurately.
I've not got any 5 storey houses with conservatories.