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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: HALTON on December 12, 2014, 05:41:09 pm

Title: online h&s courses
Post by: HALTON on December 12, 2014, 05:41:09 pm
hi
just wondering if any one knows of any free health and safety courses you can do online and get a certificate that would benefit us as window cleaners?
Title: Re: online h&s courses
Post by: HALTON on December 12, 2014, 08:50:11 pm
if no one knows of any free ones what about paid ?
Thanks
Title: Re: online h&s courses
Post by: JSMC on December 13, 2014, 01:20:38 pm
you can do iosh courses but i don't think they can be done online. Too easy to  copy and paste stuff. NEBOSH is further up the ladder. Go onto www.hse.gov.uk and read over stuff on there and get yersel  familiar with  H&S topics
Title: Re: online h&s courses
Post by: Soupy on December 13, 2014, 01:27:52 pm
I believe Ionics do H&S stuff at the BWCa http://www.bwca.co.uk/

Not sure if it's any good mind.

Also the FWC do H&S stuff  http://www.f-w-c.co.uk/training.htm

Not sure if they are still going but impact 43 used to do some too http://training43.com/a-fresh-approach-to-window-cleaning-training/
Title: Re: online h&s courses
Post by: JSMC on December 13, 2014, 01:31:22 pm
iosh courses are held all over the country. Fairly  basic stuff it is.
Title: Re: online h&s courses
Post by: HALTON on December 13, 2014, 06:54:26 pm
thanks guys great help
what do you think to these

Level 2 Health & Safety Induction
This Level 2 Health and Safety Induction ensures your compliance with the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974 by providing employees with the requisite knowledge needed in order to ensure that legal responsibilities, accident prevention and key areas of health and safety are understood.

Work At Height Training
This Working at Height Training Course ensures your compliance with the Work at Height Regulations 2005 by providing employees with the appropriate knowledge in order to understand the risks and risk management, including the selection and use of suitable work equipment, associated with working at height.

Thanks
Title: Re: online h&s courses
Post by: Bryan_Dolby on December 13, 2014, 07:16:46 pm
Halton

Look at the FWC website

Training IOSH accredited course taught by window cleaners
Lifetime certificate

WFP and ladders
Risk assessment

Bryan
Title: Re: online h&s courses
Post by: LWC on December 13, 2014, 08:20:42 pm
Why do you want to do it?
Title: Re: online h&s courses
Post by: HALTON on December 13, 2014, 08:48:19 pm
Why do you want to do it?

i just want to do it for my self as well as a boost for quoting schools homes etc
Title: Re: online h&s courses
Post by: andyM on December 13, 2014, 08:56:34 pm
The trouble is there are many training courses out there that give you a certificate at the end but it's not always worth the paper it's written on if it's not a recognised qualification.
So in that regard you are probably better off taking a widely recognised IOSH training course.
Title: Re: online h&s courses
Post by: PoleKing on December 13, 2014, 09:37:43 pm
thanks guys great help
what do you think to these

Level 2 Health & Safety Induction
This Level 2 Health and Safety Induction ensures your compliance with the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974 by providing employees with the requisite knowledge needed in order to ensure that legal responsibilities, accident prevention and key areas of health and safety are understood.

Work At Height Training
This Working at Height Training Course ensures your compliance with the Work at Height Regulations 2005 by providing employees with the appropriate knowledge in order to understand the risks and risk management, including the selection and use of suitable work equipment, associated with working at height.
I used to teach this course. It isn't difficult by any means. Call your nearest college and ask to speak to someone in construction. Explain the situation, obviously you won't want to do a full NVQ in construction & the built environment. Ask for last years test paper and ask to sit the test. It'll cost you about £50. If you've been working for any length of time at all really, you'll get most of the answers as its mainly common sense. Failing that, most colleges do an evening class, ask for a course that will include WAHR and pick the one you fancy, or the cheapest if you don't fancy any. You're bound to have a good laugh and could end up making a coffee table for your nana or something.

Thanks
Title: Re: online h&s courses
Post by: HALTON on December 13, 2014, 11:21:56 pm
So as a window cleaner the waha should be one to consider or is it not worth it
Would it benifit me .
Would having this give me the edge of any contracts over some one that does not have this ?
Thanks
Title: Re: online h&s courses
Post by: G.W.C on December 14, 2014, 09:05:55 am
I have never been asked for any of these type things when I have been quoting commercial work but no doubt there will be a few companies out there who do require some sort of certificate.
The majority are only bothered about saving money
Title: Re: online h&s courses
Post by: Bryan_Dolby on December 14, 2014, 10:32:27 am
Hi

When you do a lot of commercial window cleaning I think having a good training certificates do help you

In the last five years I have had to justify when tendering how competent I am at my job so all my training certs did come in handy

Just been accredited for the FWC SAM scheme ,now this has already helped my keep three top commercial jobs

Just got two sets of paperwork to do about reviewing approved suppliers and it askes for training records

What ever training you want to do ask yourself how will it help my business
Do I want to expand my business with a different type of customer

I am a sole trader mainly commercial

NVQ/QCF level 2
Ladders and WFP IOSH   FWC
IOSH managing safely
NEBOSH general certificate
PTTLES teacher trained
Teach IOSH training FWC
Training instructor

Bryan
Title: Re: online h&s courses
Post by: cgh window cleaning on December 14, 2014, 12:28:35 pm
As I have said before there is no right or wrong when it comes to winning jobs.
Obviously any training you do have  will give you the slight upper hand and looking after yourself,staff and customers should always be a priority.
I know lads who are cleaning schools of ladders with not even public liability insurance,I spoke to a window cleaner this week who is in his 70's and he was laddering a small block of flats up to second floor for a managment company.On the other side I have had tiny  jobs ask for all sorts of health and safety paper work and proof of insurance.
Some company's take health and safety very seriously and this is a good thing ,and all in all will only benefit us as an industry but some could not care less.

You may all so want to look at safe contractor and chas to widely recognised accreditations.
Title: Re: online h&s courses
Post by: HALTON on December 14, 2014, 09:29:28 pm
Thanks all for replays were can I get onecofcthesr nvq and how much is the course
Thanks
Title: Re: online h&s courses
Post by: PoleKing on December 14, 2014, 10:12:39 pm
Thanks all for replays were can I get onecofcthesr nvq and how much is the course
Thanks

Your local college mate.
An evening class could cost you less than £50. Over a number of weeks.
Sitting the paper alone will probably be more expensive than doing an evening class. But the class will obviously be time spent. Perhaps 8 weeks of 3 hours an evening. But you will learn another skill at the same time.
Title: Re: online h&s courses
Post by: HALTON on December 14, 2014, 10:18:10 pm
Thanks all for replays were can I get onecofcthesr nvq and how much is the course
Thanks

Your local college mate.
An evening class could cost you less than £50. Over a number of weeks.
Sitting the paper alone will probably be more expensive than doing an evening class. But the class will obviously be time spent. Perhaps 8 weeks of 3 hours an evening. But you will learn another skill at the same time.
Thanks but is that for the window cleaning nvq/qcf level 2 some one mentioned a few post down?
Thanks
Title: Re: online h&s courses
Post by: PoleKing on December 14, 2014, 10:19:23 pm
Thanks all for replays were can I get onecofcthesr nvq and how much is the course
Thanks

Your local college mate.
An evening class could cost you less than £50. Over a number of weeks.
Sitting the paper alone will probably be more expensive than doing an evening class. But the class will obviously be time spent. Perhaps 8 weeks of 3 hours an evening. But you will learn another skill at the same time.
Thanks but is that for the window cleaning nvq/qcf level 2 some one mentioned a few post down?
Thanks

Oh, no. Sorry. I thought it was just the WAHR stuff you were talking about.
I know nothing about an NVQ in shining.
Can't imagine the final exam would be difficult though ;D
Title: Re: online h&s courses
Post by: HALTON on December 14, 2014, 10:22:02 pm
Should of explained a bit better found the waha for £25 +vat
So now the nvq for window cleaning ?
Thanks
Title: Re: online h&s courses
Post by: PoleKing on December 14, 2014, 10:33:48 pm
Should of explained a bit better found the waha for £25 +vat
So now the nvq for window cleaning ?
Thanks

Didn't realise it was that cheap!