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Title: Gutter vacuum upvc poles?
Post by: Lee. on December 09, 2014, 04:48:40 pm
Please excuse me if I sound a little daft ??? but why are upvc downpipes not used for gutter vacuuming? Is it because they are too heavy or brittle? I do not use a gutter vacuuming system but would love to put one together as cheaply as possible. I have absolutely no experience whatsoever but am very intrigued.

regards Lee
Title: Re: Gutter vacuum upvc poles?
Post by: ray mck on December 09, 2014, 04:56:38 pm
I was thinking the same thing, about bathroom waste pipes 40m or 50m and cheep.
Title: Re: Gutter vacuum upvc poles?
Post by: Lee. on December 09, 2014, 04:57:41 pm
My thoughts precisely!
Title: Re: Gutter vacuum upvc poles?
Post by: robert mitchell on December 09, 2014, 05:00:43 pm
it has been done before by somebody on here , can't remember who .
Title: Re: Gutter vacuum upvc poles?
Post by: Lee. on December 09, 2014, 05:17:14 pm
Thanks Robert,

Do you know what the result was?
Title: Re: Gutter vacuum upvc poles?
Post by: Smudger on December 09, 2014, 05:22:47 pm
Brewers droop.


Try holding a 3 meter length of waste pipe and see how stable it is...


Darran
Title: Re: Gutter vacuum upvc poles?
Post by: Lee. on December 09, 2014, 05:26:00 pm
Thanks Darren.
Title: Re: Gutter vacuum upvc poles?
Post by: slap bash on December 09, 2014, 07:24:53 pm
I use  UPC tubes and the get brittle in the cold winters as well as droopy and imposable over first floor. I have used my slx with a flexible hose with a upvc  pipe on the top so its is exposed on the outside of the pole. I never use the top section to lift the vac hose but start on the sec 2 to provide strength.
Title: Re: Gutter vacuum upvc poles?
Post by: Dave. on December 09, 2014, 07:47:01 pm
Here was the post from a few years back

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=123451.0

Title: Re: Gutter vacuum upvc poles?
Post by: Clever Forum Name on December 09, 2014, 08:21:21 pm
We tried it and was a nightmare. The wobble was awesome lol.

If you make each section really short it may work. But then I wouldn't want to spend 2 hours setting up a pole lol
Title: Re: Gutter vacuum upvc poles?
Post by: stu_thomson on December 09, 2014, 08:50:27 pm
Just get one of these and be done with it cheap as chips

http://www.guttercleaningsystems.co.uk/clarke20.html (http://www.guttercleaningsystems.co.uk/clarke20.html)
Title: Re: Gutter vacuum upvc poles?
Post by: Avo on December 09, 2014, 09:58:28 pm
Don't waste your time and energy putting waste pipes together your gonna look aright plum at a customers house having a half hearted attempt at cleaning them  ;D

Might seem a lot to lay out the cost on poles but it soon pays for its self.

 If you wanna do diy and save money then try doing carbon fishing poles instead.
Title: Re: Gutter vacuum upvc poles?
Post by: CleanClear on December 09, 2014, 11:36:18 pm
Someone off here (can't remember who), think it may be someone who does pressure washing uses clear plastic poles. Seem better as you can see if there's a blockage and they seem rigid. I'll see if i can find the video of it.
Title: Re: Gutter vacuum upvc poles?
Post by: Smurf on December 09, 2014, 11:44:25 pm
You will soon know if you have a blockage or the vac is full as the tone of the vac motors will change. Also if you have a gopro on the pole you can see what you are doing too.

Clear plastic guttervac poles would not last five mins and is a stupid idea if you ask me
Title: Re: Gutter vacuum upvc poles?
Post by: Plankton on December 10, 2014, 02:00:58 am
Don't waste your time and energy putting waste pipes together your gonna look aright plum at a customers house having a half hearted attempt at cleaning them  ;D

Might seem a lot to lay out the cost on poles but it soon pays for its self.

 If you wanna do diy and save money then try doing carbon fishing poles instead.
You've gave me an idea. Sell my fishing gear instead of wfp equipment to buy gutter vac/poles. :)
Title: Re: Gutter vacuum upvc poles?
Post by: Frankybadboy on December 10, 2014, 07:11:16 am
The cowboy called Trippy uses drain pipepoles ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Gutter vacuum upvc poles?
Post by: Avo on December 10, 2014, 08:06:47 am
You will soon know if you have a blockage or the vac is full as the tone of the vac motors will change. Also if you have a gopro on the pole you can see what you are doing too.

Clear plastic guttervac poles would not last five mins and is a stupid idea if you ask me

yes smurfs right they might last 10 jobs if your lucky they must be able to withstand and knock here and there. Go pro cam are great idea to so you can see what's what while cleaning.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2bPfdyn_XsY

Title: Re: Gutter vacuum upvc poles?
Post by: Spruce on December 10, 2014, 08:11:37 am
Brewers droop.


Try holding a 3 meter length of waste pipe and see how stable it is...


Darran

 ;D
Title: Re: Gutter vacuum upvc poles?
Post by: Avo on December 10, 2014, 08:40:18 am
Nozzles are worth making from plastic as you can heat them up and shape them to your needs, I did some about 18 months ago if you search through old posts on here.
Title: Re: Gutter vacuum upvc poles?
Post by: Smudger on December 10, 2014, 11:18:22 am
Nice piccy surf


The clear acrylic tubes seem to be used in the usa, they would be quite rigid, but heavy as with most stuff things evolve, with go pro etc it's really easy to see what's going on, theses were not available a few years back.  And now you can get a set of poles for very little money which really kills off any effort to DIY a set


Darran
Title: Re: Gutter vacuum upvc poles?
Post by: Smurf on December 10, 2014, 11:32:14 am
Thanks smudger,

Ionics imported in a gutter upkeeper from the states a few yeas back that did not sell very well.

I wonder why?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNJBGo7ZNNI
Title: Re: Gutter vacuum upvc poles?
Post by: Smurf on December 10, 2014, 11:35:19 am
Here was their self propelled version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4xoQvrNkR0
Title: Re: Gutter vacuum upvc poles?
Post by: Smudger on December 10, 2014, 11:50:23 am
 :o

"Faster then the old way"  :-X yeah just takes an 18 wheeler a day to deliver it !

Now that's over kill!


Darran
Title: Re: Gutter vacuum upvc poles?
Post by: Lee. on December 10, 2014, 08:59:21 pm
Thanks all for your input, I think I've made up my mind and not go DIY but use a gutter vacuum system from the internet. Thank you so much Stu for your constructive help and giving me that fantastic link it seems more reasonable and cheap enough for me.

Many Thanks all
Lee
Title: Re: Gutter vacuum upvc poles?
Post by: Avo on December 10, 2014, 10:30:47 pm
I hope they have change the poles since I last pick them up just one section of there pole weighed around 1kg so add another 4 onto this mate.  I ended up with tennis elbow from using those years ago mate the price might look good.
Title: Re: Gutter vacuum upvc poles?
Post by: Lee. on December 11, 2014, 09:17:37 am
Thanks Avo for the warning! I do maybe 2 gutter jobs a month and most would be just above first storey. Would it still be a problem?
Title: Re: Gutter vacuum upvc poles?
Post by: Smurf on December 11, 2014, 10:19:46 am
Most get rid of those ali poles in the link as are too fooking heavy espesially on actue angles. They will get even heavier when crap builds up on the inside walls of the poles and nozzles.

Thanks Avo for the warning! I do maybe 2 gutter jobs a month and most would be just above first storey. Would it still be a problem?
Title: Re: Gutter vacuum upvc poles?
Post by: Avo on December 11, 2014, 12:28:35 pm
I started off saying the same... Do 2 jobs a month lol.. Now it's 5 a week minimum.

Just wait on and buy when you can afford some better ones don't make the mistake I made years ago.

Guttervacsystems do a better and lighter pole set check those instead
Title: Re: Gutter vacuum upvc poles?
Post by: Smurf on December 11, 2014, 01:43:23 pm
The most I have ever done in a day domestic wise using a guttervac is 6 properties.
 
Title: Re: Gutter vacuum upvc poles?
Post by: CleanClear on December 11, 2014, 03:59:24 pm
You will soon know if you have a blockage or the vac is full as the tone of the vac motors will change. Also if you have a gopro on the pole you can see what you are doing too.

Clear plastic guttervac poles would not last five mins and is a stupid idea if you ask me


Ok, only shown at a low height but they look fine ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f4_HhoBZJQ

Title: Re: Gutter vacuum upvc poles?
Post by: Smurf on December 11, 2014, 04:50:44 pm
So how many did ionics actualy sell...two including the demo one maybe ;D

You will soon know if you have a blockage or the vac is full as the tone of the vac motors will change. Also if you have a gopro on the pole you can see what you are doing too.

Clear plastic guttervac poles would not last five mins and is a stupid idea if you ask me


Ok, only shown at a low height but they look fine ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f4_HhoBZJQ


Title: Re: Gutter vacuum upvc poles?
Post by: Smurf on December 11, 2014, 04:56:45 pm
If you have never tried gutter clearing with a vac before you have no idea how difficult it can be so the more robust and light weight the poles are the more work you can get through without killing yourself in the process.
Title: Re: Gutter vacuum upvc poles?
Post by: CleanClear on December 11, 2014, 05:38:31 pm
If you have never tried gutter clearing with a vac before you have no idea how difficult it can be so the more robust and light weight the poles are the more work you can get through without killing yourself in the process.

Yeah i do gutter vac and have both Alloy poles and the grippa/gardiners poles. I also understand what you mean when you say you can tell when they're blocked etc.. I've never actually had a go of them clear tubes, but something about them appeals to me. Might just be the effect of seeing everything flowing.
Title: Re: Gutter vacuum upvc poles?
Post by: Smurf on December 11, 2014, 05:55:47 pm
You have hit the nail on the head as the only appealing thing is seeing the crap being sucked up through the clear plastic tubes and that is about it. As for being practical they look a total waste of space if you ask me and the wet tile grit/crud will eventually stick to the inside so you will see bugger all ;D