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Title: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: kleanitall ltd on November 30, 2014, 12:31:30 pm
Hi guys
Just wondered who's used carpet cleaning  network and with what success
Thanks in advance
Dave
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: Mike Gwilliam on November 30, 2014, 06:50:32 pm
I think any prospective customer would be looking for ''carpet cleaners'' in your location....which is what they do.

If the ''carpet cleaners network'' doesn't appear on the search results then I can't see the point.
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: tonner0 on November 30, 2014, 07:44:31 pm
I have been using CCN since the begining of August and am very pleased with the results. I spent similar amounts of money with Yell/Hibu and they did little to increase business, CCN has made a big increase to my business bringing in more jobs every week, some better than others but I would recommend them. There is no contract so you can try them for a month or two and see how it goes. Also they have a brilliant customer service guy, who is very helpful. I had a customer say the other day, how concise and informative the website was and that it made her want to ring. She was also pleased as she was searching for prices too which are on the websites.
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: Mike Gwilliam on November 30, 2014, 07:55:10 pm
So pray tell how did your customers find you on CCN?.....send us the search results for your area or how your customers found you through CCn

Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: davep on December 01, 2014, 04:45:51 pm
Adwords
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: tim handley on December 01, 2014, 08:45:18 pm
im only in my second week with ccn, the results are looking rather encouraging at this early stage....................
and yes i agree, their customer care seems very commendable....
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: tonner0 on December 01, 2014, 09:40:15 pm
Yes, customers find me through adwords and the two websites that they have put up for me. Adwords is not something I would want to do myself so I would rather pay an expert to do my marketing while I do the carpet cleaning.
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: Radek Jablonski on December 01, 2014, 10:20:59 pm
how much does it cost you in total per month, their invoice plus adwords.
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: CleanerCarpets on December 01, 2014, 11:13:04 pm
mmm, some posts deleted from this topic!! you can't disrespect the sponsors you know!!
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: Hilton on December 02, 2014, 08:32:00 am
I thought some had disappeared, that's really poor by the site moderators if that's the case.

Don't know anything about this network but viewers need to see a balanced view not one just skewed in favour of a sponsor if that's what they are.

It just makes you suspicious of the motives if I were looking at a service like this, deleting posts that did gave an opinion you do not like would just convince me not to use this particular company.

Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: Simon Gerrard on December 02, 2014, 08:47:58 am
I thought some had disappeared, that's really poor by the site moderators if that's the case.

Don't know anything about this network but viewers need to see a balanced view not one just skewed in favour of a sponsor if that's what they are.

It just makes you suspicious of the motives if I were looking at a service like this, deleting posts that did gave an opinion you do not like would just convince me not to use this particular company.

My thoughts exactly.
There are negatives with all types of paid advertising and you always need to consider the negatives against the positives to come to a balanced view. Deleting negatives comments just casts more doubt upon the scheme and while that might serve the interests of CNN it undermines their credibility in the long run and so in my view is counterproductive.
It also undermines the credibility of the forum if sincerely held views and opinions are deleted for whatever reason. This isn't CT - is it?

Simon
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: kleanitall ltd on December 02, 2014, 12:03:58 pm
I agree the reason i posted on here in the first place is to get the pros and cons so that i could make an educated decision we cant do this without all the views
Dave
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: CleanerCarpets on December 02, 2014, 12:40:27 pm
i have had posts deleted a lot - whenever i have given my honest opinion of dealing with Dry Fusion for 6 years when i first set up.

Posts have been deleted on here about CCN - now i have never used them so i can't comment but just deleting the posts they don't like and leaving the others and the topic open is pretty much fudging opinions and damn right biased and wrong of the forum.

Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: Mike Halliday on December 02, 2014, 03:12:56 pm
I don't think any of the moderators have deleted any posts,  what posts have been deleted? I thought I had seen all the post on this topic..... can't see any missing unless they got deleted before I saw them.

I think the writer can delete thier own post perhaps that is the case, unless the admin has done it but I would'nt have thought so
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: Robin Ray on December 02, 2014, 03:34:04 pm
Dont want to stick my oar in unnecessarily, however there was definitely a post which has been deleted. It said something like CCN was just a website and an adwords campaign not exactly the height of slander.

Does remind me a little of CT
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: jasonl on December 02, 2014, 04:20:35 pm
The starter motor went on my vw Caddy last week , they are £70 on ebay and take an hour to fit . 


I paid a garage £180 to fit one  because I did not want to .   Im with CCN , for the same reason , I clean carpets , I dont want to faff about with adwords.  Others may feel different.
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: dan paton on December 02, 2014, 04:41:10 pm
The post your all referring to that was deleted was mine and I deleted it myself. The reason I deleted it was because I put a link up to one of their sites and on reflection I didn't want my post to seem personal to the guy who rents that particular site from them. However to those who read it . I stand by it.
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: Robin Ray on December 02, 2014, 04:58:13 pm
Thats good Don. Nice to see the forum is independent afterall.
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: Mike Halliday on December 02, 2014, 05:19:32 pm
Dan Thank god for that, it would have been a pity  if all the people who jumped to conclusions had told the admin to stick thier forum where the sun don't shine and deleted thier membership in protest ::)roll ::)roll
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: CleanerCarpets on December 02, 2014, 05:42:30 pm
hard not to jump to conclusions when i have had emails from 'admin' telling me i am going to be sued if i mentioned bad things about Dry Fusion again

dont be fooled, this forum is in no way unbiased
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: Mike Halliday on December 02, 2014, 06:54:03 pm
hard not to jump to conclusions when i have had emails from 'admin' telling me i am going to be sued if i mentioned bad things about Dry Fusion again

dont be fooled, this forum is in no way unbiased

Let's see these emails or have you deleted them ::)roll

Sounds like 'admin' did you a favour :D

 if dry fusion were going to sue you then you must have been posting  slanderous  comments, but  I'm sure DF gave better things to do than take notice of nameless people saying 'bad things'
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: stuart_clark on December 02, 2014, 06:56:32 pm
I think its because Dry Fusion is one of the sites sponcers! As I too had an email from a moderater advising me to be careful what I wrote about Dry Fusion !  At the end of the day there isn't freedom of speech on any of these forums is there



Stuart
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: Simon Gerrard on December 02, 2014, 07:13:15 pm
  At the end of the day there isn't freedom of speech on any of these forums is there

There is on Truckmounters. We don't have sponsors or advertising as me and Glyn finance it out of our own pockets.
Hell, we even put up with Billy Small Blower ;D

Simon
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: Brendan (chem2clean) on December 02, 2014, 07:14:42 pm
truckmounters,dont know that forum,,,,,,
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: Mike Halliday on December 02, 2014, 07:22:01 pm
http://www.truckmounters.com
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: garry22 on December 02, 2014, 07:35:21 pm
There's a big difference between libellous comments and opinions.

There is no place for unfounded or untruthful comments. There is however, room for comments based on experience or use of a product or service.

I've had posts that were critical of ccn removed from CT recently.

I expressed an (informed) opinion based on experience and was attacked by a pro ccn poster who asked me what right I had to criticise. When I defended myself and explained why, my comments were deleted.

The reason given was that I was an "alternative supplier" (presumably that means alternative Adwords supplier to cnn?). That is not true but in fairness, I think based on a misunderstanding rather than any conspiracy by CT owners. Nick and I are fine about things.

If any forum censors opinions rather than lies, then we are in a very dark place indeed.
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: Simon Gerrard on December 02, 2014, 07:49:06 pm
http://www.truckmounters.com
Email: enquiries@leylandcleaningservices.co.uk if you want to join.
Not try to poach members btw, most of our guys are members of lots of boards. Tmer's is focused on the truck mount community.

Simon
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: Brendan (chem2clean) on December 02, 2014, 07:52:30 pm
email sent,thanks
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: *Hector* on December 02, 2014, 08:19:23 pm
http://www.truckmounters.com
Email: enquiries@leylandcleaningservices.co.uk if you want to join.
Not try to poach members btw, most of our guys are members of lots of boards. Tmer's is focused on the truck mount community.

Simon

bloody wannabe elitists...  :P :P

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: feldon on December 02, 2014, 09:18:22 pm
If i leave my portable on the van and only use as a truck mount can i join? ;D
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: Simon Gerrard on December 02, 2014, 09:51:17 pm

bloody wannabe elitists...  :P :P

 ;D ;D

Nothing Wannabe about it ;D
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: Billy Russell on December 02, 2014, 10:28:01 pm
  At the end of the day there isn't freedom of speech on any of these forums is there

There is on Truckmounters. We don't have sponsors or advertising as me and Glyn finance it out of our own pockets.
Hell, we even put up with Billy Small Blower ;D

Simon

UFEBC

 ;D
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: feldon on December 03, 2014, 07:10:54 am
  At the end of the day there isn't freedom of speech on any of these forums is there

There is on Truckmounters. We don't have sponsors or advertising as me and Glyn finance it out of our own pockets.
Hell, we even put up with Billy Small Blower ;D

Simon

UFEBC

 ;D

 ;D
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: Hilton on December 03, 2014, 11:57:05 am
The starter motor went on my vw Caddy last week , they are £70 on ebay and take an hour to fit . 


I paid a garage £180 to fit one  because I did not want to .   Im with CCN , for the same reason , I clean carpets , I dont want to faff about with adwords.  Others may feel different.

Good answer,

So are you getting a decent return on investment?
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: Paul Clapham on December 03, 2014, 03:51:55 pm
I have 4 areas with them, and its really good, emails and phone calls every day, I have got my investment back and also have enough money to one side to pay the monthly management charge and my adwords fees  for the next 4 months.

Paul.
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: Mike Halliday on December 03, 2014, 05:33:29 pm
What's your cost per click On 'your town' carpet cleaners?

How many impressions are you getting and what's your impressions/ click ratio?

Not just being nosey, if you post yours  I will post my figures as a comparison (I will actually post a screen shot so you know I'm not making them up)
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: garry22 on December 03, 2014, 05:45:53 pm
Are these yours Paul?

http://carpetcleaningmacclesfield.co.uk/

http://carpetcleaningcrewe.co.uk/

http://stokeontrentcarpetcleaning.co.uk/

http://carpetcleaningcongleton.co.uk/
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: Carpet Dawg on December 03, 2014, 11:56:25 pm
An admin from here once emailed me to ask me to remove my aviator that said Milf Hunter.  :'( The cheek! 
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: dan paton on December 04, 2014, 12:14:00 am
Have you promoted yourself to GILF hunter now Tony ;D
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: Carpet Dawg on December 04, 2014, 08:28:52 pm
Have you promoted yourself to GILF hunter now Tony ;D

dentures in or out ;D
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: Ian Gourlay on December 05, 2014, 12:01:14 pm
Do you set your own prices?

I personally am not very  enthusiastic about these schemes

ive think I just read a post which said i have my money back so does that mean by the time you have paid ongoing  costs you actually did the jobs just to pay for your membership fees etc

The answers i want to see on a regular basis as evidence that it works is

For every pound I spend I get five or six back and if I do not make that return they do not charge me
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: Ian Gourlay on December 05, 2014, 12:09:30 pm
Regarding Censorship

The only time I have known it if someone really Cyber bullies

Possibly if you say something Bad about Supplier and you have not gone through formal complaints procedure and you do not supply full evidence

I forgot continually Spamming a supplier or a forum
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: CleanerCarpets on December 05, 2014, 12:14:13 pm
simple truth is dont invest in online directories or schemes where you don't own the website

invest in your own site to drive traffic to that. A website you own and maintain yourself is the cheapest and probably the best advert you can have

learn how sites work, how they attract your client through Google searches, these types of schemes rely on you not being bothered to learn yourself - thats fine but you are never going to actually drive traffic to YOUR OWN site unless you learn the basics

you can buy a hosting package for a fiver a month and have loads of sites on it that will out perform CCN

if you can't work out how to do it, get your site reworked properly and optimised - its cheaper and better in the long run

look at Spick & Spam that Cleanitup started - got lots of people join up at first with lots of promises but when was the last time you saw it come up in a search?! And if Cleanitup can't make it work with all the people they have on this database - then who will?


Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: garry22 on December 05, 2014, 03:09:12 pm
Something very interesting happened a couple of days ago in the USA (and if it happens there it's bound to happen here).

The browser Firefox (version 34) changed it's default search engine from Google to Bing / Yahoo.

Apparently, Google's search share in the US dropped from 82% to 63% while Bing/Yahoo usage jumped from 9% to 29% (in less than a day since the change occurred). That's going to make life interesting.
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: Phil @ Extreme Clean on December 05, 2014, 04:04:38 pm
How i see this is you get clients and if you do a good job there yours to keep because it will be you they call next time.

If you pay £500 and get 10 custys and make that £500 back then you don't lose but get 10 new custys who recommend you to family and friends so your building your client base which generates more money for you in the long run.

If it doesn't work out and your losing money because no 1 calls then end it Simples.

Oh and before anyone asks i'm not part of it but what i'm reading sounds like it's a good chance to get new custys and that's what it's about and these custys aren't like groupon who only want a deal they have searched and found the site now you sell yourself.
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: tim handley on December 06, 2014, 03:01:37 pm
ill let you know how i get on, on a monthly basis, thus far, its looking good.........................
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: kleanitall ltd on December 07, 2014, 03:08:40 pm
Cheers for all the replies we have decided to take a punt on 2 areas ill let you know how we go on
Cheers
Dave
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: Mike Gwilliam on December 07, 2014, 06:06:11 pm
Quote
Something very interesting happened a couple of days ago in the USA (and if it happens there it's bound to happen here).

The browser Firefox (version 34) changed it's default search engine from Google to Bing / Yahoo.

Apparently, Google's search share in the US dropped from 82% to 63% while Bing/Yahoo usage jumped from 9% to 29% (in less than a day since the change occurred). That's going to make life interesting.

Ahh but many new pc's and laptops are set by default to IE and Bing Yahoo search engines, and they have been for some time.
Despite that, you will find that most of your traffic comes from Google and only a small percentage from others. I suspect that many such as myself will reset their home page search to Google.
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: garry22 on December 07, 2014, 08:19:11 pm
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we have decided to take a punt on 2 areas ill let you know how we go on

Does that mean a £ 500.00 set up charge for each area?
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: kleanitall ltd on December 08, 2014, 08:33:51 am
No set up charge is charged only once i believe but i could stand corrected
Dave
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: Mike Gwilliam on December 08, 2014, 08:32:09 pm
Looks completely dodgy to me. It beggars belief why CIU are promoting this; the first company testimonial, it seems the company no longer exists.

Also the customer testimonials on the web site dedicated to different areas are copied over therefore are not genuine.

How come CIU are promoting something that has no credibility?
Title: Re: using carpet cleaners network
Post by: Ian Gourlay on December 08, 2014, 08:56:29 pm
How i see this is you get clients and if you do a good job there yours to keep because it will be you they call next time.

If you pay £500 and get 10 custys and make that £500 back then you don't lose but get 10 new custys who recommend you to family and friends so your building your client base which generates more money for you in the long run.

If it doesn't work out and your losing money because no 1 calls then end it Simples.

Oh and before anyone asks i'm not part of it but what i'm reading sounds like it's a good chance to get new custys and that's what it's about and these custys aren't like groupon who only want a deal they have searched and found the site now you sell yourself.
    Everybody to their own but I could not operate a bussiness where client aquisition equals money earnt from the job . To me somebody must have brainwashed you. I do not like companies that delibretly set out to make money out of tradesmen . no doubt the phone lines to Cleanitup HQ will be ringing