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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: KS Cleaning on November 23, 2014, 09:18:27 pm
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When are they are gonna be available? Prices?
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Phoenix must be getting Gardiner worried. Thinking of getting one my self. Not as happy as some with the SLX quality
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Phoenix must be getting Gardiner worried. Thinking of getting one my self. Not as happy as some with the SLX quality
Think the Neon is being released to compete with the Extreme not the SLX ;)
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Phoenix must be getting Gardiner worried. Thinking of getting one my self. Not as happy as some with the SLX quality
I prefer my phoenix carbon x to gardiner slx, this is a pro gardiner forum, but phoenix poles are just so easy to use in comparison, so fast as well. Although gardiner still win in quality by a fair stretch!
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Phoenix must be getting Gardiner worried. Thinking of getting one my self. Not as happy as some with the SLX quality
I prefer my phoenix carbon x to gardiner slx, this is a pro gardiner forum, but phoenix poles are just so easy to use in comparison, so fast as well. Although gardiner still win in quality by a fair stretch!
Hi jakey boy
How are the phoenix poles easier and faster to use in comparison ?
Not having a pop, genuinely interested in your opinion.
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I have both, slx and phoenix, also a clx,
I find the phoenix much easier to use for 3 main reasons, the clamps are so much easier to operate and much much faster, they don't get caught on any guttering etc
The diameter is much thinner than slx poles, I find the grip and feel is more ergonomical, and less tiring,
The phoenix brush recently released is absolutly brilliant, very light, great scrubbing power, and excellent splay on the glass, seems to always work better than the super lite.
However, the quality of the gardiner slx range is better, by a long way. If facelift upped there quality standards, I would say they would potentially out sell gardiner poles...
I still highly rate gardiner, but for me, the phoenix seems to get the most use daily, I naturally gravitate towards it for ease of use. It won't last as long as a gardiner pole mind!
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The phoenix brush ......... how do they get away with charging £10 more for fan jets ! :o
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JUST been talking to another window cleaner about these and he raised some very interesting points. I am sorry but I cannot repeat what he said as i don't want to get into trouble.
He explained why and I agree. I think these will have to be modified or pulled. Not going into any more detail. Sorry.
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im quite interested in the neon for my next pole, nothing wrong with gardiner but just fancy a change and like the different style clamps. isnt the neon supposed to be the lightest pole coming on the market?
Pure H2o im interested to know what the other window cleaner has told you about these poles needing modified or pulled, why not just tell us as its only an oppinon and your not going to get into trouble are you??
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Always happy to try a change .
Will the Aquaadaptor fit onto it easy
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im quite interested in the neon for my next pole, nothing wrong with gardiner but just fancy a change and like the different style clamps. isnt the neon supposed to be the lightest pole coming on the market?
Pure H2o im interested to know what the other window cleaner has told you about these poles needing modified or pulled, why not just tell us as its only an oppinon and your not going to get into trouble are you??
Exactly, why not share?
The phoenix x poles are fine, I take it he's talking about the new neon?
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JUST been talking to another window cleaner about these and he raised some very interesting points. I am sorry but I cannot repeat what he said as i don't want to get into trouble.
He explained why and I agree. I think these will have to be modified or pulled. Not going into any more detail. Sorry.
So what was the point of saying anything then.
Cmon spill your guts...you know you want to ;D
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JUST been talking to another window cleaner about these and he raised some very interesting points. I am sorry but I cannot repeat what he said as i don't want to get into trouble
He explained why and I agree. I think these will have to be modified or pulled. Not going into any more detail. Sorry.
will the police come & take you away. ::)roll
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JUST been talking to another window cleaner about these and he raised some very interesting points. I am sorry but I cannot repeat what he said as i don't want to get into trouble.
He explained why and I agree. I think these will have to be modified or pulled. Not going into any more detail. Sorry.
So what was the point in posting? ;D
Beaten by chunks!!! ;D
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I love it when a decent, new none gardiner product comes to market- because then Gardiners always seem to shift the goalposts again just after & that product becomes old hat!! ;D All good stuff for us consumers. ;)
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I love it when a decent, new none gardiner product comes to market- because then Gardiners always seem to shift the goalposts again just after & that product becomes old hat!! ;D All good stuff for us consumers. ;)
Yep, agree, although while gardiner maintain there sideways clamps, I'll still reach for the phoenix!
We need more manufacturers to compete to lower costs as well, we still
Pay a fortune for poles these days!
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I love it when a decent, new none gardiner product comes to market- because then Gardiners always seem to shift the goalposts again just after & that product becomes old hat!! ;D All good stuff for us consumers. ;)
Yep, agree, although while gardiner maintain there sideways clamps, I'll still reach for the phoenix!
We need more manufacturers to compete to lower costs as well, we still
Pay a fortune for poles these days!
I love Gardiners smart clamps. I've had longitudinal clamps before, even on an older style Facelift carbon & find them harder to operate than transverse clamps.
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I love it when a decent, new none gardiner product comes to market- because then Gardiners always seem to shift the goalposts again just after & that product becomes old hat!! ;D All good stuff for us consumers. ;)
Yep, agree, although while gardiner maintain there sideways clamps, I'll still reach for the phoenix!
We need more manufacturers to compete to lower costs as well, we still
Pay a fortune for poles these days!
I love Gardiners smart clamps. I've had longitudinal clamps before, even on an older style Facelift carbon & find them harder to operate than transverse clamps.
Each to there own!
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Do the Neon poles have the metal collars like the Extreme to reduce wear?
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Do the Neon poles have the metal collars like the Extreme to reduce wear?
Not sure yet, I've not seen an images of the pole 'open' hope so though
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Always happy to try a change .
Will the Aquaadaptor fit onto it easy
your not still using a crap-a-dapter are you lol?
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Always happy to try a change .
Will the Aquaadaptor fit onto it easy
your not still using a crap-a-dapter are you lol?
I love my crap adapter. Cant see any quicker way
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Do the Neon poles have the metal collars like the Extreme to reduce wear?
How do you get on with the metal collars? I had to replace a section on my Extreme, replacement section has the metal collar, I find I have to tighten the clamp a lot more so it doesn't spin on the metal, in turn the pole section doesn't 'glide' as well as the old style sections when extending and collapsing.
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??? No problem works perfectly.
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im still dying to know whats so dicky about these poles that they may need recalling?
i was quite interested in trying a phoenix pole next but that comment has got me thinking!!
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im still dying to know whats so dicky about these poles that they may need recalling?
i was quite interested in trying a phoenix pole next but that comment has got me thinking!!
Just get a carbon x rather than the new 'neon' I love the carbon x it's fantastic!
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yup love my phoenix pole. it looks and feels like the SLX but has the quick clamps.
Cant wait to try the NEON pole soon though.
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I managed to see one before they were pulled. (oh like i said) pretty sure lighter than an extreme!
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As far as I know the Phoenix neon pole has already been pulled.
It was for sale, then they stopped.
Legal issues with the extreme is all I can think of really.
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Yeah stepped construction on the pole. That's what me and another cleaner noticed and was explained back in NOV
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I have a SLX and the phoenix carbon pole and the SLX has been sitting in my gararge for about 6 months gathering dust.
I had to pull it out last week for a day while I re-glued a clamp as it had come loose due to overuse. ;)
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It would seem I was correct in my as-sertion earlier this year that the Neon poles were a manifest copy of a patented Gardiner design then. ;D
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I have had the pheonix x for a few years and defo prefer to SLX, more rigid and shorter collapsed length
I do need to no1 section but can't see any spares on the website