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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Jakey boy on November 22, 2014, 07:54:54 pm

Title: No more winding in the hose!
Post by: Jakey boy on November 22, 2014, 07:54:54 pm
This guys got it sorted!

http://youtu.be/bpA8qXcgSJg
Title: Re: No more winding in the hose!
Post by: Clever Forum Name on November 22, 2014, 08:00:40 pm
That's vin I think who posts on here.

Looks better than the power up reel lol
Title: Re: No more winding in the hose!
Post by: Jakey boy on November 22, 2014, 08:01:33 pm
Fair play to him
Title: Re: No more winding in the hose!
Post by: Clever Forum Name on November 22, 2014, 08:04:27 pm
Although it would be the weak link in the equation. To save space you can buy those 90degree chuck adapters. Bet you could adapt one so the whole setup takes up less space.
Title: Re: No more winding in the hose!
Post by: Jakey boy on November 22, 2014, 08:06:35 pm
I think it's worth a go, easy to charge the battery from a drill as well...

Title: Re: No more winding in the hose!
Post by: Jakey boy on November 22, 2014, 08:09:11 pm
I'd like to see a manufacturer make an electric reel with a detachable lion battery. Unlike the one from wcw!

If they made a reel with a fixed motor and a plug in lithium battery, I'd  buy one, but the wcw one looks a bit big and bulky, also as said in the other thread its too open, a hand or rag could easily tangle up the chain..
Title: Re: No more winding in the hose!
Post by: RO-Sheen on November 22, 2014, 11:31:02 pm
great as long as the hose is in a straight line with no obstacles to get around but realistically our hoses are pulled out of the back doors, around the side of the van. around the shubbery, past the customers car, through the gate, past the plant pots etc etc. Imagine hoe often it would get snagged and pull pots over and break plants....
Title: Re: No more winding in the hose!
Post by: dave f on November 23, 2014, 08:13:39 am
iam thinking of getting one, regards to breaking things you just have to re think your working practice to suit like any thing else. you cant knock it till youve tride it .ive said in a nother post just wondered how it copes with a warm rubbery hose ;D,when using hot water. a chain gard would be good.also ive just thought what happens if it conks out with a load of hose? just looked at the video it dosent look as if you can reel it in by hand.. mmm ,ho and spare parts, long term.the more i think about it the more im having second thoughts
Title: Re: No more winding in the hose!
Post by: Jakey boy on November 23, 2014, 12:05:55 pm
I'm thinking carry a cordless drill in the van, then when needed, just wack it on the bolt and reel it in, rather than having it fixed all the time? Just use the drill as and when.

With regards to plant pots etc, don't you normally drag your hose towards the back of the van beifre reeling in anyway? That's what I do, then I'm thinking use the drill to wind it in...
Title: Re: No more winding in the hose!
Post by: Trev Jones on November 23, 2014, 12:30:08 pm
iam thinking of getting one, regards to breaking things you just have to re think your working practice to suit like any thing else. you cant knock it till youve tride it .ive said in a nother post just wondered how it copes with a warm rubbery hose ;D,when using hot water. a chain gard would be good.also ive just thought what happens if it conks out with a load of hose? just looked at the video it dosent look as if you can reel it in by hand.. mmm ,ho and spare parts, long term.the more i think about it the more im having second thoughts

You can still wind it in by hand as the handle you used to use will fit over the hexagon end of the shaft to enable it to be wound in manually.
Title: Re: No more winding in the hose!
Post by: duncan h on November 23, 2014, 03:42:47 pm
Don't know how long the drill will last. Taking it on and off will damage the hex end. Were all sick of winding reels in. These companys should have made a good one ages ago
Title: Re: No more winding in the hose!
Post by: Perfect Windows on November 23, 2014, 04:37:39 pm
I'm thinking carry a cordless drill in the van, then when needed, just wack it on the bolt and reel it in, rather than having it fixed all the time? Just use the drill as and when.

With regards to plant pots etc, don't you normally drag your hose towards the back of the van beifre reeling in anyway? That's what I do, then I'm thinking use the drill to wind it in...

You absolutely must have something holding the drill and preventing it from rotating (the wood blocks by the drill in the video).  You also must have a ratchet between drill and reel or the drill will break (drills don't allow overrun).  Once you've done those, why would you want to just use it sometimes?

Vin
Title: Re: No more winding in the hose!
Post by: Perfect Windows on November 23, 2014, 04:54:28 pm
The ratchet adapter I used is the Sealey ak737.  It's the only one I could ever find that did the required job, though there may be others.

Not cheap but you really must have one so you can reel out with drill attached and also so that you don't break the drill (and possibly your wrist) when you stop the drill.

Vin
Title: Re: No more winding in the hose!
Post by: dave f on November 23, 2014, 05:01:57 pm
it must be geared you must have strong arms to wind in by hand 
Title: Re: No more winding in the hose!
Post by: Trev Jones on November 23, 2014, 05:07:31 pm
It would be hard to wind in by hand, but you would only do it if something went wrong, if it had to be used like that for a few days, then you would loosen off 5 bolts and take the chain off the sprockets and then it would be the same as a normal reel.
Title: Re: No more winding in the hose!
Post by: Jakey boy on November 23, 2014, 05:24:21 pm
I'm thinking carry a cordless drill in the van, then when needed, just wack it on the bolt and reel it in, rather than having it fixed all the time? Just use the drill as and when.

With regards to plant pots etc, don't you normally drag your hose towards the back of the van beifre reeling in anyway? That's what I do, then I'm thinking use the drill to wind it in...

You absolutely must have something holding the drill and preventing it from rotating (the wood blocks by the drill in the video).  You also must have a ratchet between drill and reel or the drill will break (drills don't allow overrun).  Once you've done those, why would you want to just use it sometimes?

Vin

Because if you could use the drill as a stand alone tool, then you would be able to only use it sometimes, and not others. If you need those extra bits and pieces then yes you wpildnt use it sometimes. If is known you needed the extra bits, I wouldn't have said what I did!
Title: Re: No more winding in the hose!
Post by: Perfect Windows on November 23, 2014, 09:22:19 pm
Makes sense.  But the way I used it was with that setup all the time and the handle available for emergencies.  I reckon it probably gave me a third or half a clean more a day thanks to being that little bit less tired - winding can wear you out.

The unfortunate part was that the guy in the video simply could not understand the instruction to stop if the hose was tangled.  So he burned out two drills, at which point I went back to handles and never bothered to set it up again after he left.

I think I'll do it again this weekend.

Vin
Title: Re: No more winding in the hose!
Post by: bobplum on November 23, 2014, 10:31:31 pm
does the sealy ak737 fit straight into the mouth of the drill
Title: Re: No more winding in the hose!
Post by: Perfect Windows on November 24, 2014, 08:56:21 pm
No, you need a drill to 1/2" square adapter.  They seem always to come in packs of 1/4, 3/8, 1/2".

Vin
Title: Re: No more winding in the hose!
Post by: bobplum on November 25, 2014, 07:43:00 am
cheers vin
Title: Re: No more winding in the hose!
Post by: Wrekin C S on December 08, 2014, 07:36:35 pm
Is that a longer socket on the end than a normal size one?

Just purchased the ak737 so hopefully might save my back a bit from all the winding in anything is worth a try  :)
Title: Re: No more winding in the hose!
Post by: Perfect Windows on December 09, 2014, 04:03:49 pm
It's drill, plus drill socket adapter, ratchet, socket - all adds up to quite a length.

Vin
Title: Re: No more winding in the hose!
Post by: Wrekin C S on December 09, 2014, 09:31:22 pm
Cheers already have the socket adapter just need the socket now 22MM if I'm correct?
Title: Re: No more winding in the hose!
Post by: LWC on December 09, 2014, 10:44:55 pm
My mate did this, works well, just mind it doesnt catch, wrecks your wrists lol  ;D
Title: Re: No more winding in the hose!
Post by: Perfect Windows on December 10, 2014, 04:31:01 pm
My mate did this, works well, just mind it doesnt catch, wrecks your wrists lol  ;D


You absolutely must have something holding the drill and preventing it from rotating (the wood blocks by the drill in the video).


Agree totally.  I seriously reckon you could break your wrist if the reel is spinning at full speed and suddenly stops.  You MUST have the drill braced.

Vin
Title: Re: No more winding in the hose!
Post by: Wrekin C S on December 10, 2014, 04:47:28 pm
Ok thanks will make some sort of brace similar to your contraption. ..