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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: 8weekly on November 19, 2014, 04:24:19 pm
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Did you just pass it on?
My plan is to simply add 20% and go on the flat rate scheme with a promise of no further increases in two years in a carefully worded letter.
What did others do?
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My plan is to simply add 20% and go on the flat rate scheme with a promise of no further increases in two years in a carefully worded letter.
Then you might find that you loose some customers and that brings you back below the VAT threshold ;)
I'm not registered... But when I do I will probably just increase all prices by 5% - 10% and swallow the rest... I wouldn't mention VAT to any customers.
Andy
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Glad you asked this.
Could someone cough smudger cough enlighten us please. As much info as possible would be great. He's the only chap I know on here that's vat reg really (big domestic rounds)
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Funny how with all those on here doing £400 days or £60 p/h they rarely get involved in these VAT discussions, wonder why that is? :o
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most are full of it thats why
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i did it in exactly the same way that you are proposing, and i did lose a few customers and the ones i lost were the dregs of my round anyway so if anything it was a good thing , i didnt add it to all customers though, some who were priced really well i swallowed it. I had quite decent prices in the first place so i could afford to swallow a bit. I was surprised at how well the customer base as a whole took it, most people who can afford to have their windows cleaned know a bit about business and if anything they applaud your growth and success even if it means it costs them a few quid more. For them the price increase buys them security in the knowledge that you are a bonafide business and not some shmuck that will be unreliable and turn up as and when you feel like it.
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My plan is to simply add 20% and go on the flat rate scheme with a promise of no further increases in two years in a carefully worded letter.
Then you might find that you loose some customers and that brings you back below the VAT threshold ;)
I'm not registered... But when I do I will probably just increase all prices by 5% - 10% and swallow the rest... I wouldn't mention VAT to any customers.
Andy
I will tell them, but with a letter. Some exceptionally well priced large jobs I will absorb, but 90% will get a price rise. If it drops below it will only be temporary so I'm not too concerned about that.
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i did it in exactly the same way that you are proposing, and i did lose a few customers and the ones i lost were the dregs of my round anyway so if anything it was a good thing , i didnt add it to all customers though, some who were priced really well i swallowed it. I had quite decent prices in the first place so i could afford to swallow a bit. I was surprised at how well the customer base as a whole took it, most people who can afford to have their windows cleaned know a bit about business and if anything they applaud your growth and success even if it means it costs them a few quid more. For them the price increase buys them security in the knowledge that you are a bonafide business and not some shmuck that will be unreliable and turn up as and when you feel like it.
That is pretty much word for word how I plan to do it and anticipate it going.
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The other thing i forgot to say is that if you employ the cost of you going VAT registered is actually not yours but your staff. (unfortunately for them) The target that they have has to go up by 20% in order for them to turnover the same amount of money. They will need to do £180 instead of £150 or £240 instead of £200 etc. Unfortunately if you are still on the tools this will apply to you too until you move away from the coalface..... But for any new starters that you have they dont know any different and their turnover and or earnings will always be calculated after 20% has been taken off, for them that is simply how things are, no problems 8)
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The other thing i forgot to say is that if you employ the cost of you going VAT registered is actually not yours but your staff. (unfortunately for them) The target that they have has to go up by 20% in order for them to turnover the same amount of money. They will need to do £180 instead of £150 or £240 instead of £200 etc. Unfortunately if you are still on the tools this will apply to you too until you move away from the coalface..... But for any new starters that you have they dont know any different and their turnover and or earnings will always be calculated after 20% has been taken off, for them that is simply how things are, no problems 8)
I don't have anyone yet, so I am flat out anyway but I have someone (daughter's partner) due to start in February, but may have to take someone on before then as I am likely to be 4/5 weeks behind by then. (I anticipate VAT threshold being hit the moment someone starts).
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Hello -
We reg vat from April this year, we knew a few months before that if things continued then this would be necessary, we do price reviews EVERY 12 months, so most got a rise in 2013 and this year we sent our usual price review out and most went up by what we felt was fair - but we did stipulate on the letter that we will endevour to ensure there are no further prices reviews until 2016.
This rise helped offset some of the vat we are on the FRS at 12% (pay 11% in first year) obviously it did not cover all of it, we have also this year picked up some regular commercial clients (schools/care homes) which you charge 20% vat too but you pay out 12% - so if you can pick up a few vat reg commercials that will also help.
No two ways about it, initially it does effect your profits especially when you are domestic based, but for us it was a necessary step to continue our growth. Don't be frightened about it the FRS is very easy to use and do vat returns on.
Mrs Smudger
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Start pricing work up with VAT in mind ;) that's what we did! and put that extra money in another account, this will be your VAT account and never spend it on anything other than VAT ;D
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question to the guys who have made the jump
what have been the benefits of going vat reg
have you made more profit since going vat reg than before being vat reg
have you picked up more work since being vat reg
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question to the guys who have made the jump
what have been the benefits of going vat reg
have you made more profit since going vat reg than before being vat reg
have you picked up more work since being vat reg
Its not about making a jump it about having a turnover of more than £79000 you don't have a choice.
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Funny how with all those on here doing £400 days or £60 p/h they rarely get involved in these VAT discussions, wonder why that is? :o
In what category would you put the guy who started this post, on the verge of £79000 working on his own.
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question to the guys who have made the jump
what have been the benefits of going vat reg
have you made more profit since going vat reg than before being vat reg
have you picked up more work since being vat reg
Its not about making a jump it about having a turnover of more than £79000 you don't have a choice.
It's £81k this year.
I heard (though can't confirm) it'll be £85k next year.
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Funny how with all those on here doing £400 days or £60 p/h they rarely get involved in these VAT discussions, wonder why that is? :o
In what category would you put the guy who started this post, on the verge of £79000 working on his own.
I was thinking that...
Not doubting the guy but thats some serious turn over working on your own!! :o
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question to the guys who have made the jump
what have been the benefits of going vat reg
have you made more profit since going vat reg than before being vat reg
have you picked up more work since being vat reg
Its not about making a jump it about having a turnover of more than £79000 you don't have a choice.
It's £81k this year.
I heard (though can't confirm) it'll be £85k next year.
Personally I don't believe that but if there are then they would be in a very small minority, strange how they all
find their way onto this forum.
Believe what?
The first bit is fact. The second bit I've said was only what I've heard ???
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question to the guys who have made the jump
what have been the benefits of going vat reg
have you made more profit since going vat reg than before being vat reg
have you picked up more work since being vat reg
Its not about making a jump it about having a turnover of more than £79000 you don't have a choice.
It's £81k this year.
I heard (though can't confirm) it'll be £85k next year.
Personally I don't believe that but if there are then they would be in a very small minority, strange how they all
find their way onto this forum.
Believe what?
The first bit is fact. The second bit I've said was only what I've heard ???
Was replying to the bit you deleted, not what you said about the vat.
I wasn't saying that you hadn't heard people boast about these type of earnings, I'm saying I don't believe these type
of people.
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Funny how with all those on here doing £400 days or £60 p/h they rarely get involved in these VAT discussions, wonder why that is? :o
In what category would you put the guy who started this post, on the verge of £79000 working on his own.
Good on him if he's getting there whilst working alone, that's some going and 100% not achievable on domestics where I work.
Fwiw my post was a bit tongue in cheek and wasn't aimed at 8weekly. There are a few Walter Mittys on here that like to bull**** about earning big money but I personally wouldn't put 8weekly in that category.
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question to the guys who have made the jump
what have been the benefits of going vat reg
have you made more profit since going vat reg than before being vat reg
have you picked up more work since being vat reg
Its not about making a jump it about having a turnover of more than £79000 you don't have a choice.
It's £81k this year.
I heard (though can't confirm) it'll be £85k next year.
Personally I don't believe that but if there are then they would be in a very small minority, strange how they all
find their way onto this forum.
Believe what?
The first bit is fact. The second bit I've said was only what I've heard ???
Was replying to the bit you deleted, not what you said about the vat.
I wasn't saying that you hadn't heard people boast about these type of earnings, I'm saying I don't believe these type
of people.
81K = 5 days per week, every week for 50 weeks per year earning £324 per day, every day for 250 days.
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I hope a lot more guys go VAT registered. Then sole traders like me will definatley be at least 10% cheaper :-)
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I hope a lot more guys go VAT registered. Then sole traders like me will definatley be at least 10% cheaper :-)
The more vat reg' & franchised window cleaners out there the better!! ;D 10-20% to play with- just to be level. ;D
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I hope a lot more guys go VAT registered. Then sole traders like me will definatley be at least 10% cheaper :-)
What you and all the negative thinkers on here never grasp is that you don't get business by being cheap. Very rarely on domestic work do people get comparative quotes. So you and others can carry on being as cheap as you like, but don't think that by being cheap that you will be taking work from me.
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question to the guys who have made the jump
what have been the benefits of going vat reg
have you made more profit since going vat reg than before being vat reg
have you picked up more work since being vat reg
Its not about making a jump it about having a turnover of more than £79000 you don't have a choice.
It's £81k this year.
I heard (though can't confirm) it'll be £85k next year.
Personally I don't believe that but if there are then they would be in a very small minority, strange how they all
find their way onto this forum.
Believe what?
The first bit is fact. The second bit I've said was only what I've heard ???
Was replying to the bit you deleted, not what you said about the vat.
I wasn't saying that you hadn't heard people boast about these type of earnings, I'm saying I don't believe these type
of people.
Oh, fair enough.
Thats why i deleted it.
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I hope a lot more guys go VAT registered. Then sole traders like me will definatley be at least 10% cheaper :-)
What you and all the negative thinkers on here never grasp is that you don't get business by being cheap. Very rarely on domestic work do people get comparative quotes. So you and others can carry on being as cheap as you like, but don't think that by being cheap that you will be taking work from me.
Not sure what you did there bud, but somehow you've taken my general comment and personalised it. I'm not cheap and i don't intend on taking any work from you.
I was just stating a fact. I'm not a negative thinker, i'm a foreward thinker. I'm also registered, insured, and qualified (i know !! :-) ). But the fact remains as a sole trader i can afford to be at least 10% cheaper than a VAT registered trader. Thats based on the VAT registration alone and not factoring in the probably a VAT registered trader is much larger than me and has a lot of overheads pertaining to staff, etc. Thats all i'm stating.
If you wanna be negative about that fact and call me negative then so be it ! ;D
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I hope a lot more guys go VAT registered. Then sole traders like me will definatley be at least 10% cheaper :-)
What you and all the negative thinkers on here never grasp is that you don't get business by being cheap. Very rarely on domestic work do people get comparative quotes. So you and others can carry on being as cheap as you like, but don't think that by being cheap that you will be taking work from me.
Not sure what you did there bud, but somehow you've taken my general comment and personalised it. I'm not cheap and i don't intend on taking any work from you.
I was just stating a fact. I'm not a negative thinker, i'm a foreward thinker. I'm also registered, insured, and qualified (i know !! :-) ). But the fact remains as a sole trader i can afford to be at least 10% cheaper than a VAT registered trader. Thats based on the VAT registration alone and not factoring in the probably a VAT registered trader is much larger than me and has a lot of overheads pertaining to staff, etc. Thats all i'm stating.
If you wanna be negative about that fact and call me negative then so be it ! ;D
What do you mean CC?
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I hope a lot more guys go VAT registered. Then sole traders like me will definatley be at least 10% cheaper :-)
What you and all the negative thinkers on here never grasp is that you don't get business by being cheap. Very rarely on domestic work do people get comparative quotes. So you and others can carry on being as cheap as you like, but don't think that by being cheap that you will be taking work from me.
What makes you think that someone 10 to 20% cheaper than you isn't as good nor professional as yourself? Or even better for that matter. You do the maths- two competing quotes, one is 20% cheaper, friendlier, as professional, equal standard of equipment etc etc Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....................................... ::)roll
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I hope a lot more guys go VAT registered. Then sole traders like me will definatley be at least 10% cheaper :-)
What you and all the negative thinkers on here never grasp is that you don't get business by being cheap. Very rarely on domestic work do people get comparative quotes. So you and others can carry on being as cheap as you like, but don't think that by being cheap that you will be taking work from me.
Not sure what you did there bud, but somehow you've taken my general comment and personalised it. I'm not cheap and i don't intend on taking any work from you.
I was just stating a fact. I'm not a negative thinker, i'm a foreward thinker. I'm also registered, insured, and qualified (i know !! :-) ). But the fact remains as a sole trader i can afford to be at least 10% cheaper than a VAT registered trader. Thats based on the VAT registration alone and not factoring in the probably a VAT registered trader is much larger than me and has a lot of overheads pertaining to staff, etc. Thats all i'm stating.
If you wanna be negative about that fact and call me negative then so be it ! ;D
It wasn't meant to be personal. My apologies as reading it back, it does read that way. My point remains though that in domestic work, on the whole when you quote, you have no competition, so it doesn't matter whether you or any one is cheaper because the only person to quote is the one that dropped the leaflet or knocked the door. And therein lies the secret to achieving £300 a day every day.
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I hope a lot more guys go VAT registered. Then sole traders like me will definatley be at least 10% cheaper :-)
What you and all the negative thinkers on here never grasp is that you don't get business by being cheap. Very rarely on domestic work do people get comparative quotes. So you and others can carry on being as cheap as you like, but don't think that by being cheap that you will be taking work from me.
What makes you think that someone 10 to 20% cheaper than you isn't as good nor professional as yourself? Or even better for that matter. You do the maths- two competing quotes, one is 20% cheaper, friendlier, as professional, equal standard of equipment etc etc Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....................................... ::)roll
Read my lips DOMESTICS DON'T GET COMPETITIVE QUOTES. I doubt very much whether I am the best window cleaner, but it doesn't matter.
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I hope a lot more guys go VAT registered. Then sole traders like me will definatley be at least 10% cheaper :-)
What you and all the negative thinkers on here never grasp is that you don't get business by being cheap. Very rarely on domestic work do people get comparative quotes. So you and others can carry on being as cheap as you like, but don't think that by being cheap that you will be taking work from me.
Not sure what you did there bud, but somehow you've taken my general comment and personalised it. I'm not cheap and i don't intend on taking any work from you.
I was just stating a fact. I'm not a negative thinker, i'm a foreward thinker. I'm also registered, insured, and qualified (i know !! :-) ). But the fact remains as a sole trader i can afford to be at least 10% cheaper than a VAT registered trader. Thats based on the VAT registration alone and not factoring in the probably a VAT registered trader is much larger than me and has a lot of overheads pertaining to staff, etc. Thats all i'm stating.
If you wanna be negative about that fact and call me negative then so be it ! ;D
What do you mean CC?
Just that, i'm registered as self employed window cleaner with HMRC. I just highlighted that point as many here often pull that up as a point if they're outcompeted for a job...i.e i'll bet they're the beer brigade, not registered or insured, blah blah blah !!!
I remember Lee Burbidge bringing up a point a while ago..along the lines of ....should VAT registered Business have to pay VAT on domestic customers etc... Its like they (people who want to expand over the VAT threshold) want their cake and eat it.
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I hope a lot more guys go VAT registered. Then sole traders like me will definatley be at least 10% cheaper :-)
What you and all the negative thinkers on here never grasp is that you don't get business by being cheap. Very rarely on domestic work do people get comparative quotes. So you and others can carry on being as cheap as you like, but don't think that by being cheap that you will be taking work from me.
Not sure what you did there bud, but somehow you've taken my general comment and personalised it. I'm not cheap and i don't intend on taking any work from you.
I was just stating a fact. I'm not a negative thinker, i'm a foreward thinker. I'm also registered, insured, and qualified (i know !! :-) ). But the fact remains as a sole trader i can afford to be at least 10% cheaper than a VAT registered trader. Thats based on the VAT registration alone and not factoring in the probably a VAT registered trader is much larger than me and has a lot of overheads pertaining to staff, etc. Thats all i'm stating.
If you wanna be negative about that fact and call me negative then so be it ! ;D
What do you mean CC?
Just that, i'm registered as self employed window cleaner with HMRC. I just highlighted that point as many here often pull that up as a point if they're outcompeted for a job...i.e i'll bet they're the beer brigade, not registered or insured, blah blah blah !!!
I remember Lee Burbidge bringing up a point a while ago..along the lines of ....should VAT registered Business have to pay VAT on domestic customers etc... Its like they (people who want to expand over the VAT threshold) want their cake and eat it.
Oh, I getchya.
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And therein lies the secret to achieving £300 a day every day.
I already know how to do that. Two things stop me. ;D
[1] I don't have the physical ability.
[2] I can't be arsed to sort out staff to do it (read: i ain;t clever enough to manage it all).
;D ;D
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And therein lies the secret to achieving £300 a day every day.
I already know how to do that. Two things stop me. ;D
[1] I don't have the physical ability.
[2] I can't be arsed to sort out staff to do it (read: i ain;t clever enough to manage it all).
;D ;D
To be honest I am struggling physically. My arms, shoulders and neck are feeling it but I should be able to drastically reduce the physical load very soon.
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And therein lies the secret to achieving £300 a day every day.
I already know how to do that. Two things stop me. ;D
[1] I don't have the physical ability.
[2] I can't be arsed to sort out staff to do it (read: i ain;t clever enough to manage it all).
;D ;D
To be honest I am struggling physically. My arms, shoulders and neck are feeling it but I should be able to drastically reduce the physical load very soon.
Is that the secret to £300 a day? struggling, bad arms & shoulders? ;D ;D You never know, you might be able to achieve it without killing yourself one day! ;D
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And therein lies the secret to achieving £300 a day every day.
I already know how to do that. Two things stop me. ;D
[1] I don't have the physical ability.
[2] I can't be arsed to sort out staff to do it (read: i ain;t clever enough to manage it all).
;D ;D
To be honest I am struggling physically. My arms, shoulders and neck are feeling it but I should be able to drastically reduce the physical load very soon.
Well good luck with it. The downside to sole traders like me is when i stop, thats it the business stops, thats it. Probably as you're experiencing the next step up is not actually a step its a leap. Lots more work to do and staff to manage, VAT to consider (as you're doing). I'll just watch these type thread with interest.
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And therein lies the secret to achieving £300 a day every day.
I already know how to do that. Two things stop me. ;D
[1] I don't have the physical ability.
[2] I can't be arsed to sort out staff to do it (read: i ain;t clever enough to manage it all).
;D ;D
To be honest I am struggling physically. My arms, shoulders and neck are feeling it but I should be able to drastically reduce the physical load very soon.
Is that the secret to £300 a day? struggling, bad arms & shoulders? ;D ;D You never know, you might be able to achieve it without killing yourself one day! ;D
Actually, I am certain that I could achieve it with less strain. I could just whack up all my prices and drop some less prifitable customers and remain a sole trader, but instead I am not yet increasing prices and holding onto them all because my chosen method of achieving it is to employ.
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bloody hell steve you come a long way in two years from when you was using a trolley ?
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bloody hell steve you come a long way in two years from when you was using a trolley ?
Thanks Frankie. My life changed when I joined Tosh's club. That said I always priced well but yes it's pretty staggering how much I've achieved and work still coming in at around 5 new jobs a week. Spring and summer were mad.
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I hope a lot more guys go VAT registered. Then sole traders like me will definatley be at least 10% cheaper :-)
What you and all the negative thinkers on here never grasp is that you don't get business by being cheap. Very rarely on domestic work do people get comparative quotes. So you and others can carry on being as cheap as you like, but don't think that by being cheap that you will be taking work from me.
Spot on.
Customers that buy based on price as their major factor in making the decision are the worst customers to have.
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I hope a lot more guys go VAT registered. Then sole traders like me will definatley be at least 10% cheaper :-)
What you and all the negative thinkers on here never grasp is that you don't get business by being cheap. Very rarely on domestic work do people get comparative quotes. So you and others can carry on being as cheap as you like, but don't think that by being cheap that you will be taking work from me.
Spot on.
Customers that buy based on price as their major factor in making the decision are the worst customers to have.
It's about "value for money". If customers didn't buy on price we would all be charging double what we do now. This doesn't necessarily mean cheap either. Whatever car you drive, or wherever you shop, ask yourself why you didn't buy the next model up or go shopping at a more expensive supermarket.
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I hope a lot more guys go VAT registered. Then sole traders like me will definatley be at least 10% cheaper :-)
What you and all the negative thinkers on here never grasp is that you don't get business by being cheap. Very rarely on domestic work do people get comparative quotes. So you and others can carry on being as cheap as you like, but don't think that by being cheap that you will be taking work from me.
Spot on.
Customers that buy based on price as their major factor in making the decision are the worst customers to have.
Totally agree, when a customer begs me to clean their windows I look to see if they are wearing a Rolex if not I tell
then to get lost.
I next tell them its £50 a window and if they twitch its good bye.
I'm too good and too successful to waste time on people who know the value of money.
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I hope a lot more guys go VAT registered. Then sole traders like me will definatley be at least 10% cheaper :-)
What you and all the negative thinkers on here never grasp is that you don't get business by being cheap. Very rarely on domestic work do people get comparative quotes. So you and others can carry on being as cheap as you like, but don't think that by being cheap that you will be taking work from me.
Spot on.
Customers that buy based on price as their major factor in making the decision are the worst customers to have.
It's about "value for money". If customers didn't buy on price we would all be charging double what we do now. This doesn't necessarily mean cheap either. Whatever car you drive, or wherever you shop, ask yourself why you didn't buy the next model up or go shopping at a more expensive supermarket.
What do you charge for a 3 bed modern semi?
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I hope a lot more guys go VAT registered. Then sole traders like me will definatley be at least 10% cheaper :-)
What you and all the negative thinkers on here never grasp is that you don't get business by being cheap. Very rarely on domestic work do people get comparative quotes. So you and others can carry on being as cheap as you like, but don't think that by being cheap that you will be taking work from me.
Spot on.
Customers that buy based on price as their major factor in making the decision are the worst customers to have.
It's about "value for money". If customers didn't buy on price we would all be charging double what we do now. This doesn't necessarily mean cheap either. Whatever car you drive, or wherever you shop, ask yourself why you didn't buy the next model up or go shopping at a more expensive supermarket.
What do you charge for a 3 bed modern semi?
Mate do you actually believe that wealthy people don't care about price ? I was cleaning the inside of a multi millionaires
property a few weeks back and guess what they where talking about ?
The price of a full Sky package and was it worth cancelling the sports package when the football season was over.
I guarantee the Merc on the drive was knocked down on the asking price.
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I hope a lot more guys go VAT registered. Then sole traders like me will definatley be at least 10% cheaper :-)
What you and all the negative thinkers on here never grasp is that you don't get business by being cheap. Very rarely on domestic work do people get comparative quotes. So you and others can carry on being as cheap as you like, but don't think that by being cheap that you will be taking work from me.
Spot on.
Customers that buy based on price as their major factor in making the decision are the worst customers to have.
It's about "value for money". If customers didn't buy on price we would all be charging double what we do now. This doesn't necessarily mean cheap either. Whatever car you drive, or wherever you shop, ask yourself why you didn't buy the next model up or go shopping at a more expensive supermarket.
What do you charge for a 3 bed modern semi?
Mate do you actually believe that wealthy people don't care about price ? I was cleaning the inside of a multi millionaires
property a few weeks back and guess what they where talking about ?
The price of a full Sky package and was it worth cancelling the sports package when the football season was over.
I guarantee the Merc on the drive was knocked down on the asking price.
How many quotes did your "multi millionaire" get for window cleaning?
Seems to me £20 every two months for a 4 bed semi with conservatory isn't going to break the bank. Most think it's reasonable and don't bother toilet other quotes. I know at least three window cleaners around here that would do the same house for half the price but the customer didn't phone them for a price.
Jeez, what does it take to get some on here to wake up?
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I hope a lot more guys go VAT registered. Then sole traders like me will definatley be at least 10% cheaper :-)
What you and all the negative thinkers on here never grasp is that you don't get business by being cheap. Very rarely on domestic work do people get comparative quotes. So you and others can carry on being as cheap as you like, but don't think that by being cheap that you will be taking work from me.
Spot on.
Customers that buy based on price as their major factor in making the decision are the worst customers to have.
It's about "value for money". If customers didn't buy on price we would all be charging double what we do now. This doesn't necessarily mean cheap either. Whatever car you drive, or wherever you shop, ask yourself why you didn't buy the next model up or go shopping at a more expensive supermarket.
What do you charge for a 3 bed modern semi?
Mate do you actually believe that wealthy people don't care about price ? I was cleaning the inside of a multi millionaires
property a few weeks back and guess what they where talking about ?
The price of a full Sky package and was it worth cancelling the sports package when the football season was over.
I guarantee the Merc on the drive was knocked down on the asking price.
How many quotes did your "multi millionaire" get for window cleaning?
Seems to me £20 every two months for a 4 bed semi with conservatory isn't going to break the bank. Most think it's reasonable and don't bother toilet other quotes. I know at least three window cleaners around here that would do the same house for half the price but the customer didn't phone them for a price.
Jeez, what does it take to get some on here to wake up?
Would you have got it if your quote had if been £100, that's the point everybody is trying to make.
Doesn't matter how rich you are you still expect to be treated fairly and not taken for a mug.
Nobody is saying your going to lose a good customer for the sake of a few quid.
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I hope a lot more guys go VAT registered. Then sole traders like me will definatley be at least 10% cheaper :-)
What you and all the negative thinkers on here never grasp is that you don't get business by being cheap. Very rarely on domestic work do people get comparative quotes. So you and others can carry on being as cheap as you like, but don't think that by being cheap that you will be taking work from me.
Spot on.
Customers that buy based on price as their major factor in making the decision are the worst customers to have.
It's about "value for money". If customers didn't buy on price we would all be charging double what we do now. This doesn't necessarily mean cheap either. Whatever car you drive, or wherever you shop, ask yourself why you didn't buy the next model up or go shopping at a more expensive supermarket.
What do you charge for a 3 bed modern semi?
Mate do you actually believe that wealthy people don't care about price ? I was cleaning the inside of a multi millionaires
property a few weeks back and guess what they where talking about ?
The price of a full Sky package and was it worth cancelling the sports package when the football season was over.
I guarantee the Merc on the drive was knocked down on the asking price.
How many quotes did your "multi millionaire" get for window cleaning?
Seems to me £20 every two months for a 4 bed semi with conservatory isn't going to break the bank. Most think it's reasonable and don't bother toilet other quotes. I know at least three window cleaners around here that would do the same house for half the price but the customer didn't phone them for a price.
Jeez, what does it take to get some on here to wake up?
Would you have got it if your quote had if been £100, that's the point everybody is trying to make.
Doesn't matter how rich you are you still expect to be treated fairly and not taken for a mug.
Nobody is saying your going to lose a good customer for the sake of a few quid.
I give up on you Mr "Who's gonna pay more than a fiver for that". ::)roll
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Wow. ::)roll
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I hope a lot more guys go VAT registered. Then sole traders like me will definatley be at least 10% cheaper :-)
What you and all the negative thinkers on here never grasp is that you don't get business by being cheap. Very rarely on domestic work do people get comparative quotes. So you and others can carry on being as cheap as you like, but don't think that by being cheap that you will be taking work from me.
Spot on.
Customers that buy based on price as their major factor in making the decision are the worst customers to have.
It's about "value for money". If customers didn't buy on price we would all be charging double what we do now. This doesn't necessarily mean cheap either. Whatever car you drive, or wherever you shop, ask yourself why you didn't buy the next model up or go shopping at a more expensive supermarket.
What do you charge for a 3 bed modern semi?
Mate do you actually believe that wealthy people don't care about price ? I was cleaning the inside of a multi millionaires
property a few weeks back and guess what they where talking about ?
The price of a full Sky package and was it worth cancelling the sports package when the football season was over.
I guarantee the Merc on the drive was knocked down on the asking price.
How many quotes did your "multi millionaire" get for window cleaning?
Seems to me £20 every two months for a 4 bed semi with conservatory isn't going to break the bank. Most think it's reasonable and don't bother toilet other quotes. I know at least three window cleaners around here that would do the same house for half the price but the customer didn't phone them for a price.
Jeez, what does it take to get some on here to wake up?
£20 is reasonable, I've got a some four bed semis at £45, however, I know I'm not going to get row upon row all next to each other at that price. I get the impression that you think you know something that the rest of us don't? I don't recondition poles either ;D If what you say you are earning is true then it would cost you more in time to recondition a pole than just to replace it with new. I think it might be you who needs to wake up a little!! ;D
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I hope a lot more guys go VAT registered. Then sole traders like me will definatley be at least 10% cheaper :-)
What you and all the negative thinkers on here never grasp is that you don't get business by being cheap. Very rarely on domestic work do people get comparative quotes. So you and others can carry on being as cheap as you like, but don't think that by being cheap that you will be taking work from me.
Spot on.
Customers that buy based on price as their major factor in making the decision are the worst customers to have.
It's about "value for money". If customers didn't buy on price we would all be charging double what we do now. This doesn't necessarily mean cheap either. Whatever car you drive, or wherever you shop, ask yourself why you didn't buy the next model up or go shopping at a more expensive supermarket.
What do you charge for a 3 bed modern semi?
Mate do you actually believe that wealthy people don't care about price ? I was cleaning the inside of a multi millionaires
property a few weeks back and guess what they where talking about ?
The price of a full Sky package and was it worth cancelling the sports package when the football season was over.
I guarantee the Merc on the drive was knocked down on the asking price.
How many quotes did your "multi millionaire" get for window cleaning?
Seems to me £20 every two months for a 4 bed semi with conservatory isn't going to break the bank. Most think it's reasonable and don't bother toilet other quotes. I know at least three window cleaners around here that would do the same house for half the price but the customer didn't phone them for a price.
Jeez, what does it take to get some on here to wake up?
£20 is reasonable, I've got a some four bed semis at £45, however, I know I'm not going to get row upon row all next to each other at that price. I get the impression that you think you know something that the rest of us don't? I don't recondition poles either ;D If what you say you are earning is true then it would cost you more in time to recondition a pole than just to replace it with new. I think it might be you who needs to wake up a little!! ;D
It was a mistype. It should have been a modern 3 bed semi. The kind you get on a modern housing development.
As for the recondition thing and time, that is why I asked if anyone offered the service - because it would cost me more in time to do it. :'(
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I hope a lot more guys go VAT registered. Then sole traders like me will definatley be at least 10% cheaper :-)
What you and all the negative thinkers on here never grasp is that you don't get business by being cheap. Very rarely on domestic work do people get comparative quotes. So you and others can carry on being as cheap as you like, but don't think that by being cheap that you will be taking work from me.
Spot on.
Customers that buy based on price as their major factor in making the decision are the worst customers to have.
It's about "value for money". If customers didn't buy on price we would all be charging double what we do now. This doesn't necessarily mean cheap either. Whatever car you drive, or wherever you shop, ask yourself why you didn't buy the next model up or go shopping at a more expensive supermarket.
What do you charge for a 3 bed modern semi?
Mate do you actually believe that wealthy people don't care about price ? I was cleaning the inside of a multi millionaires
property a few weeks back and guess what they where talking about ?
The price of a full Sky package and was it worth cancelling the sports package when the football season was over.
I guarantee the Merc on the drive was knocked down on the asking price.
How many quotes did your "multi millionaire" get for window cleaning?
Seems to me £20 every two months for a 4 bed semi with conservatory isn't going to break the bank. Most think it's reasonable and don't bother toilet other quotes. I know at least three window cleaners around here that would do the same house for half the price but the customer didn't phone them for a price.
Jeez, what does it take to get some on here to wake up?
£20 is reasonable, I've got a some four bed semis at £45, however, I know I'm not going to get row upon row all next to each other at that price. I get the impression that you think you know something that the rest of us don't? I don't recondition poles either ;D If what you say you are earning is true then it would cost you more in time to recondition a pole than just to replace it with new. I think it might be you who needs to wake up a little!! ;D
It was a mistype. It should have been a modern 3 bed semi. The kind you get on a modern housing development.
As for the recondition thing and time, that is why I asked if anyone offered the service - because it would cost me more in time to do it. :'(
It would cost you less to just buy new, and lets be honest, on £300+ a day, every day, it aint going to break the bank is it?
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I hope a lot more guys go VAT registered. Then sole traders like me will definatley be at least 10% cheaper :-)
What you and all the negative thinkers on here never grasp is that you don't get business by being cheap. Very rarely on domestic work do people get comparative quotes. So you and others can carry on being as cheap as you like, but don't think that by being cheap that you will be taking work from me.
Spot on.
Customers that buy based on price as their major factor in making the decision are the worst customers to have.
It's about "value for money". If customers didn't buy on price we would all be charging double what we do now. This doesn't necessarily mean cheap either. Whatever car you drive, or wherever you shop, ask yourself why you didn't buy the next model up or go shopping at a more expensive supermarket.
What do you charge for a 3 bed modern semi?
Mate do you actually believe that wealthy people don't care about price ? I was cleaning the inside of a multi millionaires
property a few weeks back and guess what they where talking about ?
The price of a full Sky package and was it worth cancelling the sports package when the football season was over.
I guarantee the Merc on the drive was knocked down on the asking price.
How many quotes did your "multi millionaire" get for window cleaning?
Seems to me £20 every two months for a 4 bed semi with conservatory isn't going to break the bank. Most think it's reasonable and don't bother toilet other quotes. I know at least three window cleaners around here that would do the same house for half the price but the customer didn't phone them for a price.
Jeez, what does it take to get some on here to wake up?
£20 is reasonable, I've got a some four bed semis at £45, however, I know I'm not going to get row upon row all next to each other at that price. I get the impression that you think you know something that the rest of us don't? I don't recondition poles either ;D If what you say you are earning is true then it would cost you more in time to recondition a pole than just to replace it with new. I think it might be you who needs to wake up a little!! ;D
It was a mistype. It should have been a modern 3 bed semi. The kind you get on a modern housing development.
As for the recondition thing and time, that is why I asked if anyone offered the service - because it would cost me more in time to do it. :'(
It would cost you less to just buy new, and lets be honest, on £300+ a day, every day, it aint going to break the bank is it?
Should I do that when my van needs a service too? Buy a new one? Or instead of washing microfibres, buy new ones too? Why don't you just admit that you don't like to see others do well? ;)
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I hope a lot more guys go VAT registered. Then sole traders like me will definatley be at least 10% cheaper :-)
What you and all the negative thinkers on here never grasp is that you don't get business by being cheap. Very rarely on domestic work do people get comparative quotes. So you and others can carry on being as cheap as you like, but don't think that by being cheap that you will be taking work from me.
Spot on.
Customers that buy based on price as their major factor in making the decision are the worst customers to have.
It's about "value for money". If customers didn't buy on price we would all be charging double what we do now. This doesn't necessarily mean cheap either. Whatever car you drive, or wherever you shop, ask yourself why you didn't buy the next model up or go shopping at a more expensive supermarket.
What do you charge for a 3 bed modern semi?
Mate do you actually believe that wealthy people don't care about price ? I was cleaning the inside of a multi millionaires
property a few weeks back and guess what they where talking about ?
The price of a full Sky package and was it worth cancelling the sports package when the football season was over.
I guarantee the Merc on the drive was knocked down on the asking price.
How many quotes did your "multi millionaire" get for window cleaning?
Seems to me £20 every two months for a 4 bed semi with conservatory isn't going to break the bank. Most think it's reasonable and don't bother toilet other quotes. I know at least three window cleaners around here that would do the same house for half the price but the customer didn't phone them for a price.
Jeez, what does it take to get some on here to wake up?
£20 is reasonable, I've got a some four bed semis at £45, however, I know I'm not going to get row upon row all next to each other at that price. I get the impression that you think you know something that the rest of us don't? I don't recondition poles either ;D If what you say you are earning is true then it would cost you more in time to recondition a pole than just to replace it with new. I think it might be you who needs to wake up a little!! ;D
It was a mistype. It should have been a modern 3 bed semi. The kind you get on a modern housing development.
As for the recondition thing and time, that is why I asked if anyone offered the service - because it would cost me more in time to do it. :'(
It would cost you less to just buy new, and lets be honest, on £300+ a day, every day, it aint going to break the bank is it?
Should I do that when my van needs a service too? Buy a new one? Or instead of washing microfibres, buy new ones too? Why don't you just admit that you don't like to see others do well? ;)
Now you're just being silly. 80k one day, reconditioning an old pole the next- you decide, I'm out!! ;D
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Anyone actually got more tips about the OP rather than this stupid argument?
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I hope a lot more guys go VAT registered. Then sole traders like me will definatley be at least 10% cheaper :-)
What you and all the negative thinkers on here never grasp is that you don't get business by being cheap. Very rarely on domestic work do people get comparative quotes. So you and others can carry on being as cheap as you like, but don't think that by being cheap that you will be taking work from me.
Spot on.
Customers that buy based on price as their major factor in making the decision are the worst customers to have.
It's about "value for money". If customers didn't buy on price we would all be charging double what we do now. This doesn't necessarily mean cheap either. Whatever car you drive, or wherever you shop, ask yourself why you didn't buy the next model up or go shopping at a more expensive supermarket.
What do you charge for a 3 bed modern semi?
Mate do you actually believe that wealthy people don't care about price ? I was cleaning the inside of a multi millionaires
property a few weeks back and guess what they where talking about ?
The price of a full Sky package and was it worth cancelling the sports package when the football season was over.
I guarantee the Merc on the drive was knocked down on the asking price.
How many quotes did your "multi millionaire" get for window cleaning?
Seems to me £20 every two months for a 4 bed semi with conservatory isn't going to break the bank. Most think it's reasonable and don't bother toilet other quotes. I know at least three window cleaners around here that would do the same house for half the price but the customer didn't phone them for a price.
Jeez, what does it take to get some on here to wake up?
£20 is reasonable, I've got a some four bed semis at £45, however, I know I'm not going to get row upon row all next to each other at that price. I get the impression that you think you know something that the rest of us don't? I don't recondition poles either ;D If what you say you are earning is true then it would cost you more in time to recondition a pole than just to replace it with new. I think it might be you who needs to wake up a little!! ;D
It was a mistype. It should have been a modern 3 bed semi. The kind you get on a modern housing development.
As for the recondition thing and time, that is why I asked if anyone offered the service - because it would cost me more in time to do it. :'(
It would cost you less to just buy new, and lets be honest, on £300+ a day, every day, it aint going to break the bank is it?
Should I do that when my van needs a service too? Buy a new one? Or instead of washing microfibres, buy new ones too? Why don't you just admit that you don't like to see others do well? ;)
Now you're just being silly. 80k one day, reconditioning an old pole the next- you decide, I'm out!! ;D
Fair enough, but I bought my wife this last week. ;)
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I hope a lot more guys go VAT registered. Then sole traders like me will definatley be at least 10% cheaper :-)
What you and all the negative thinkers on here never grasp is that you don't get business by being cheap. Very rarely on domestic work do people get comparative quotes. So you and others can carry on being as cheap as you like, but don't think that by being cheap that you will be taking work from me.
Spot on.
Customers that buy based on price as their major factor in making the decision are the worst customers to have.
Totally agree, when a customer begs me to clean their windows I look to see if they are wearing a Rolex if not I tell
then to get lost.
I next tell them its £50 a window and if they twitch its good bye.
I'm too good and too successful to waste time on people who know the value of money.
Ok mate, whatever you say
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your wife wanted that?? :-X
how old are you 8 weekly 55/60??
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only joking, nice car.
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I hope a lot more guys go VAT registered. Then sole traders like me will definatley be at least 10% cheaper :-)
What you and all the negative thinkers on here never grasp is that you don't get business by being cheap. Very rarely on domestic work do people get comparative quotes. So you and others can carry on being as cheap as you like, but don't think that by being cheap that you will be taking work from me.
Spot on.
Customers that buy based on price as their major factor in making the decision are the worst customers to have.
It's about "value for money". If customers didn't buy on price we would all be charging double what we do now. This doesn't necessarily mean cheap either. Whatever car you drive, or wherever you shop, ask yourself why you didn't buy the next model up or go shopping at a more expensive supermarket.
What do you charge for a 3 bed modern semi?
Mate do you actually believe that wealthy people don't care about price ? I was cleaning the inside of a multi millionaires
property a few weeks back and guess what they where talking about ?
The price of a full Sky package and was it worth cancelling the sports package when the football season was over.
I guarantee the Merc on the drive was knocked down on the asking price.
How many quotes did your "multi millionaire" get for window cleaning?
Seems to me £20 every two months for a 4 bed semi with conservatory isn't going to break the bank. Most think it's reasonable and don't bother toilet other quotes. I know at least three window cleaners around here that would do the same house for half the price but the customer didn't phone them for a price.
Jeez, what does it take to get some on here to wake up?
£20 is reasonable, I've got a some four bed semis at £45, however, I know I'm not going to get row upon row all next to each other at that price. I get the impression that you think you know something that the rest of us don't? I don't recondition poles either ;D If what you say you are earning is true then it would cost you more in time to recondition a pole than just to replace it with new. I think it might be you who needs to wake up a little!! ;D
It was a mistype. It should have been a modern 3 bed semi. The kind you get on a modern housing development.
As for the recondition thing and time, that is why I asked if anyone offered the service - because it would cost me more in time to do it. :'(
It would cost you less to just buy new, and lets be honest, on £300+ a day, every day, it aint going to break the bank is it?
Should I do that when my van needs a service too? Buy a new one? Or instead of washing microfibres, buy new ones too? Why don't you just admit that you don't like to see others do well? ;)
Now you're just being silly. 80k one day, reconditioning an old pole the next- you decide, I'm out!! ;D
Fair enough, but I bought my wife this last week. ;)
How insecure.
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That all went well didn't it ? !! ;D
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I hope a lot more guys go VAT registered. Then sole traders like me will definatley be at least 10% cheaper :-)
What you and all the negative thinkers on here never grasp is that you don't get business by being cheap. Very rarely on domestic work do people get comparative quotes. So you and others can carry on being as cheap as you like, but don't think that by being cheap that you will be taking work from me.
Spot on.
Customers that buy based on price as their major factor in making the decision are the worst customers to have.
It's about "value for money". If customers didn't buy on price we would all be charging double what we do now. This doesn't necessarily mean cheap either. Whatever car you drive, or wherever you shop, ask yourself why you didn't buy the next model up or go shopping at a more expensive supermarket.
What do you charge for a 3 bed modern semi?
Mate do you actually believe that wealthy people don't care about price ? I was cleaning the inside of a multi millionaires
property a few weeks back and guess what they where talking about ?
The price of a full Sky package and was it worth cancelling the sports package when the football season was over.
I guarantee the Merc on the drive was knocked down on the asking price.
How many quotes did your "multi millionaire" get for window cleaning?
Seems to me £20 every two months for a 4 bed semi with conservatory isn't going to break the bank. Most think it's reasonable and don't bother toilet other quotes. I know at least three window cleaners around here that would do the same house for half the price but the customer didn't phone them for a price.
Jeez, what does it take to get some on here to wake up?
£20 is reasonable, I've got a some four bed semis at £45, however, I know I'm not going to get row upon row all next to each other at that price. I get the impression that you think you know something that the rest of us don't? I don't recondition poles either ;D If what you say you are earning is true then it would cost you more in time to recondition a pole than just to replace it with new. I think it might be you who needs to wake up a little!! ;D
It was a mistype. It should have been a modern 3 bed semi. The kind you get on a modern housing development.
As for the recondition thing and time, that is why I asked if anyone offered the service - because it would cost me more in time to do it. :'(
It would cost you less to just buy new, and lets be honest, on £300+ a day, every day, it aint going to break the bank is it?
Should I do that when my van needs a service too? Buy a new one? Or instead of washing microfibres, buy new ones too? Why don't you just admit that you don't like to see others do well? ;)
Now you're just being silly. 80k one day, reconditioning an old pole the next- you decide, I'm out!! ;D
Fair enough, but I bought my wife this last week. ;)
How insecure.
Maybe, but it does get a bit irritating to be virtually called a liar. And across two threads. I think I might take a little break and let the n'er do wells carry on amongst themselves. :-[
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I hope a lot more guys go VAT registered. Then sole traders like me will definatley be at least 10% cheaper :-)
What you and all the negative thinkers on here never grasp is that you don't get business by being cheap. Very rarely on domestic work do people get comparative quotes. So you and others can carry on being as cheap as you like, but don't think that by being cheap that you will be taking work from me.
Spot on.
Customers that buy based on price as their major factor in making the decision are the worst customers to have.
It's about "value for money". If customers didn't buy on price we would all be charging double what we do now. This doesn't necessarily mean cheap either. Whatever car you drive, or wherever you shop, ask yourself why you didn't buy the next model up or go shopping at a more expensive supermarket.
What do you charge for a 3 bed modern semi?
Mate do you actually believe that wealthy people don't care about price ? I was cleaning the inside of a multi millionaires
property a few weeks back and guess what they where talking about ?
The price of a full Sky package and was it worth cancelling the sports package when the football season was over.
I guarantee the Merc on the drive was knocked down on the asking price.
How many quotes did your "multi millionaire" get for window cleaning?
Seems to me £20 every two months for a 4 bed semi with conservatory isn't going to break the bank. Most think it's reasonable and don't bother toilet other quotes. I know at least three window cleaners around here that would do the same house for half the price but the customer didn't phone them for a price.
Jeez, what does it take to get some on here to wake up?
£20 is reasonable, I've got a some four bed semis at £45, however, I know I'm not going to get row upon row all next to each other at that price. I get the impression that you think you know something that the rest of us don't? I don't recondition poles either ;D If what you say you are earning is true then it would cost you more in time to recondition a pole than just to replace it with new. I think it might be you who needs to wake up a little!! ;D
It was a mistype. It should have been a modern 3 bed semi. The kind you get on a modern housing development.
As for the recondition thing and time, that is why I asked if anyone offered the service - because it would cost me more in time to do it. :'(
It would cost you less to just buy new, and lets be honest, on £300+ a day, every day, it aint going to break the bank is it?
Should I do that when my van needs a service too? Buy a new one? Or instead of washing microfibres, buy new ones too? Why don't you just admit that you don't like to see others do well? ;)
Now you're just being silly. 80k one day, reconditioning an old pole the next- you decide, I'm out!! ;D
Fair enough, but I bought my wife this last week. ;)
How insecure.
Maybe, but it does get a bit irritating to be virtually called a liar. And across two threads. I think I might take a little break and let the n'er do wells carry on anumptyst themselves. :-[
anumptyst ;D
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8 weekly has based his whole success on the fact that he got £20 for a 4 bed detached with conservatory
when a guy told him he couldn't get more than a fiver for it.
So now if you don't agree with his boasting your that guy, even though most of us would realise that if a guy comes
out with something like that he's either a busy fool or more than likely just trying to put you off the area.
I don't believe anybody who boasts about very high earnings or turnover when their facts just don't add up, but I
would class them more as delusional ( Walter Mitty ) than a liar.
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8 weekly has based his whole success on the fact that he got £20 for a 4 bed detached with conservatory
when a guy told him he couldn't get more than a fiver for it.
So now if you don't agree with his boasting your that guy, even though most of us would realise that if a guy comes
out with something like that he's either a busy fool or more than likely just trying to put you off the area.
I don't believe anybody who boasts about very high earnings or turnover when their facts just don't add up, but I
would class them more as delusional ( Walter Mitty ) than a liar.
I've been on here nearly ten years mate & seen 'em all ;D
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i think 80k is acheiveable on your own if your work is priced very well, and quite compact
if you work the odd weekend also
i think im sort of on about 71k at the minute and i could prob manage that on my own, hard to say as ive had an emloyee for last 9 weeks or so but hes been sacked now and all the first cleans are out the way and back up to my standard
im finding it surprisingly easy hitting the targets and ive only been working 9-4ish
ive got a new lad starting on monday, because i prefer to not work hell for leather and enjoy taking bit of time out nowadays, but if ireally wanted to i think i could manage 80k on my own once i introduce price increase i wouldnt be far off
do i want to do 80k on my own no not for me work to live or live to work
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That all went well didn't it ? !! ;D
;D
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80K as a sole trader?
For me that would require a commitment - im not into commitments of this nature thanks.
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Richy, your posts are so funny.
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i think 80k is acheiveable on your own if your work is priced very well, and quite compact
if you work the odd weekend also
i think im sort of on about 71k at the minute and i could prob manage that on my own, hard to say as ive had an emloyee for last 9 weeks or so but hes been sacked now and all the first cleans are out the way and back up to my standard
im finding it surprisingly easy hitting the targets and ive only been working 9-4ish
ive got a new lad starting on monday, because i prefer to not work hell for leather and enjoy taking bit of time out nowadays, but if ireally wanted to i think i could manage 80k on my own once i introduce price increase i wouldnt be far off
do i want to do 80k on my own no not for me work to live or live to work
Lol. Always game for a laugh. :-)
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80K as a sole trader?
For me that would require a commitment - im not into commitments of this nature thanks.
thats what im saying its achievable but itd be a bloody big commitment, and your round would have to be pretty well established, refined, prices all very good and compact enough, im sure prices down south it would be easy enough to reach that amount bit harder up north but if you had the right setup more than enuf water to last good high flow rate of water, maybe not have to invoice customers thru the door
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i think im sort of on about 71k at the minute
You think you sort of are?
;)
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i think im sort of on about 71k at the minute
You think you sort of are?
;)
YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO BUY YOUR OWN HOUSE SOON RICHY AND MOVE OUT OF YOUR MUMS!and you charge your mum for cleaning her windows?you should be ashamed of yourself matey.
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Mum and dad are buying me a house at min just in closed bids for a repossessed house, not sure why peoe are laughing when I say about 71 k I've just started back up and going off projected turnover off cLeaner planner plus add one etc that I do and more customers I pick up then price increase in january
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I might goto prison for being a loser drug dealer! If it means my mum and dad will buy me a house knowing i earn over 70k a year happy days.
You have it made richy.. Well done
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i think im sort of on about 71k at the minute and i could prob manage that on my own
Is this Window cleaning ? or have you included selling a few gram's down the boozer in this 71 K ?
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Just to clarify for you mick my mum and dad are buying it as an investment to downsize into eventually but buying it for me for the foreseeable future where I pay small amount too them every month
No I'm prob gonna turnover 71 k without selling drugs sorry to dissapoint
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i think im sort of on about 71k at the minute and i could prob manage that on my own
Is this Window cleaning ? or have you included selling a few gram's down the boozer in this 71 K ?
;D ;D ;D
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Just to clarify for you mick my mum and dad are buying it as an investment to downsize into eventually but buying it for me for the foreseeable future where I pay small amount too them every month
No I'm prob gonna turnover 71 k without selling drugs sorry to dissapoint
Richy, aren't you mid thirties now?
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Just to clarify for you mick my mum and dad are buying it as an investment to downsize into eventually but buying it for me for the foreseeable future where I pay small amount too them every month
No I'm prob gonna turnover 71 k without selling drugs sorry to dissapoint
Its called renting ::)roll
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Go to school kids and get an education...
Don't do drugs and learn from your mistakes
Things dont get handed to you in life so work hard...
But dad, richywilts doesn't do any of these things and look at him!
Yeah, fair point, do what you like...
No offence richy, but after what you say you're turning over and what you've put your mum and dad through, i dont think i could carry on scrounging, purely out of guilt...
If you're turning over 71k i'm pretty sure you could at least rent a place and stop letting your mum and dad wipe your ar5e
Good luck mate
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its not my idea its what my parents want to do he can make more money this way than having it in his bond like i said its an investment, hence reason were looking a repossessions etc
i will be doing it up and poss putting an extension on it, my dads just putting the cash in to buy it outright
i am turning over in region of 71k give or take a few thousand but the last few months ive prob had 6 grand expenses buying things to get the business in best possible state with equipment etc ive reinvested pretty much everything ive made hilst im on tag which comes off tmoz
im very lucky wioth the support ive recieved from family but il turn it all down hey to please u lot
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Go to school kids and get an education...
Don't do do drugs and learn from your mistakes
Things dont get handed to you in life so work hard...
But dad, richywilts doesn't do any of these things and look at him!
Yeah, fair point, do what you like...
No offence richy, but after what you say you're turning over and what you've put your mum and dad through, i dont think i could carry on scrounging, purely out of guilt...
If you're turning over 71k i'm pretty sure you could at least rent a place and stop letting your mum and dad wipe your ar5e
Good luck mate
That was areally polite way of putting across what I was thinking..thankyou
Donkee!
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don-key how could you be so rude ;D ;D ;D
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ive reinvested pretty much everything ive made hilst im on tag which comes off tmoz
Good man, keep it going
afterall, a dealer with no gear isnt much use to anyone
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ive prob had 6 grand expenses buying things to get the business in best possible state with equipment etc ive reinvested pretty much everything ive made hilst im on tag which comes off tmoz
you been banged up for 2 years and you can still find 6k to spend on equipment :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
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thinka this covers most up to date expenses yes unfortunately its cost me over 6 grand since starting up but hopefully nothing else needed now except fitting out newest van, 90% of things paid out of the business money
20/11/14 VAN INSURANCE VAN INSURANCE -£48.83 -£9.77 -£58.60 DIRECT DEBIT CONSTRUCTAQUOTE
20/11/14 WAGES richard wiltshire drawings to repay overdraft -£150.00 £0.00 -£150.00 DIRECT DEBIT MOORCROFT GROUP
20/11/14 CARD PAYMENT SERVICES worldpay -£19.17 -£3.83 -£23.00 DIRECT DEBIT
20/11/14 EQUIPMENT GARDEN HOSE -£30.83 -£6.16 -£36.99 CARD PAYMENT STRIKE GARDEN CENTRE
19/11/14 FUEL DIESEL -£64.45 -£12.89 -£77.34 CARD PAYMENT
19/11/14 CARD PAYMENT SERVICES STREAMLINE -£8.78 -£1.76 -£10.54 DIRECT DEBIT
17/11/14 VAN INSURANCE Temporary van insurance 1 day for ford transit connect -£16.85 -£3.37 -£20.22 CARD PAYMENT
15/11/14 VEHICLE MAINTENANCE alternator for berlingo supply and fit -£150.00 -£30.00 -£180.00 CARD PAYMENT
15/11/14 EQUIPMENT LADDER CLAMPS SCREWFIX -£19.99 -£4.00 -£23.99 CARD PAYMENT
14/11/14 VEHICLE MAINTENANCE van batterys and laser multimeter -£124.15 -£24.83 -£148.98 CARD PAYMENT
13/11/14 WEBSITE website hosting annual roodee web design -£95.00 -£19.00 -£114.00 BACS
12/11/14 STATIONERY printing paper from asda -£10.00 -£2.00 -£12.00 CASH
12/11/14 EQUIPMENT wilkinson pump sprayers for detergent and rubber gloves -£7.92 -£1.58 -£9.50 CARD PAYMENT
12/11/14 ADVERTISING facebook advertising -£39.18 -£7.84 -£47.02 BACS
10/11/14 MATERIALS cleaning detergents and spray bottles from essell -£34.88 -£6.98 -£41.86 CARD PAYMENT
10/11/14 PHONE BILLS 02 mobile phone bill -£41.63 -£8.32 -£49.95 BACS
10/11/14 ADVERTISING facebook advertising -£20.24 -£4.05 -£24.29 BACS
10/11/14 VAN INSURANCE renewinsurance -£51.24 -£10.25 -£61.49 BACS
07/11/14 WAGES Jon King wages week 31 -£274.56 £0.00 -£274.56 BACS
07/11/14 HMRC hmrc tax and ni due for oct 2014 -£115.84 £0.00 -£115.84 BACS
06/11/14 EQUIPMENT window cleaning equipment and materiald -£61.90 -£12.38 -£74.28 CARD PAYMENT WEB4390
05/11/14 FUEL DIESEL -£54.13 -£10.83 -£64.96 CARD PAYMENT
03/11/14 FUEL DIESEL -£41.67 -£8.33 -£50.00 CARD PAYMENT
03/11/14 INSURANCE hiscox public and employer liablity insurance -£42.82 -£8.56 -£51.38 BACS Every 8 months
03/11/14 CAR TAX VAUXHALL COMBO VAN TAX 6 MONTHS -£82.50 -£16.50 -£99.00 CARD PAYMENT
03/11/14 WAGES richard wiltshire drawings FOR CAR TAX -£123.00 £0.00 -£123.00 CARD PAYMENT
01/11/14 EQUIPMENT ladder stand off from b n q -£30.83 -£6.17 -£37.00 CARD PAYMENT
31/10/14 WAGES Jon King wages week 30 -£274.56 £0.00 -£274.56 BACS
30/10/14 MATERIALS brillo pads -£2.50 -£0.50 -£3.00 CASH mccolls newsagents
30/10/14 EQUIPMENT bag from charity shop for leaflet dropping -£1.57 -£0.31 -£1.88 CASH
30/10/14 ADVERTISING facebook advertising -£1.56 -£0.31 -£1.87 BACS
28/10/14 EQUIPMENT window cleaning equipment and materiald -£125.35 -£25.07 -£150.42 CARD PAYMENT paypal
28/10/14 MATERIALS cleaning detergents and spray bottles from essell -£19.78 -£3.96 -£23.74 CASH essell cleaning and bar supplies
26/10/14 WAGES director drawings -£100.00 £0.00 -£100.00 CASH
24/10/14 ADVERTISING facebook advertising -£17.09 £0.00 -£17.09 BACS
24/10/14 WAGES Jon King wages week 29 -£231.04 £0.00 -£231.04 BACS
23/10/14 ADVERTISING leaflets design and print 10,000 a6 -£240.00 £0.00 -£240.00 CARD PAYMENT
20/10/14 ROUND SOFTWARE CLEANER PLANNER SOFTWARE -£25.00 £0.00 -£25.00 BACS
20/10/14 VEHICLE MAINTENANCE HALFORDS LEISURE BATTERY AND FITTINGS -£89.14 -£17.83 -£106.97 CARD PAYMENT
20/10/14 FUEL DIESEL -£41.67 -£8.33 -£50.00 CARD PAYMENT
19/10/14 WAGES richard wiltshire drawings -£100.00 £0.00 -£100.00 CASH
17/10/14 WAGES Jon King wages week 28 -£274.56 £0.00 -£274.56 BACS
17/10/14 UNIFORMS tradesmen black trojan belts x 2 -£4.98 -£1.00 -£5.98 CASH
16/10/14 FUEL DIESEL -£8.33 -£1.67 -£10.00 CASH
16/10/14 FUEL DIESEL -£41.69 -£8.34 -£50.03 CARD PAYMENT
15/10/14 UNIFORMS 2 x TROJAN LINED ACTION TROUSERS BLACK -£45.53 -£9.11 -£54.64 CARD PAYMENT
15/10/14 EQUIPMENT gardiner pole quick loc adaptor -£2.00 -£0.40 -£2.40 CARD PAYMENT
14/10/14 EQUIPMENT ladder stand off from machine mart -£26.99 -£5.40 -£32.39 CARD PAYMENT
14/10/14 FUEL DIESEL -£16.67 -£3.33 -£20.00 CASH
13/10/14 STATIONERY printer cartridges for hp printer -£24.00 £0.00 -£24.00 CASH
10/10/14 HMRC P30 Employer's Payslip for Week 23 to 26. -£50.12 £0.00 -£50.12 BACS
08/10/14 VEHICLE MAINTENANCE VEHICLE VALET -£15.00 £0.00 -£15.00 CASH
08/10/14 UNIFORMS 3 x TROJAN LINED ACTION TROUSERS BLACK -£61.77 -£12.35 -£74.12 CARD PAYMENT
07/10/14 FUEL DIESEL -£33.33 -£6.67 -£40.00 CARD PAYMENT
06/10/14 MATERIALS buckets for gutter clearing job -£2.48 -£0.50 -£2.98 CASH
04/10/14 WAGES richard wiltshire drawings -£100.00 £0.00 -£100.00 CASH
03/10/14 ADVERTISING facebook advertising -£17.98 £0.00 -£17.98 CARD PAYMENT
02/10/14 CAR TAX VEHICLE TAX FOR CITROEN BERLINGO £0.00 -£126.50 -£126.50 CARD PAYMENT 9132-5460-6343-5329
01/10/14 WAGES Jon King wages week 26 -£187.32 £0.00 -£187.32 BACS
01/10/14 FUEL DIESEL -£16.68 -£3.34 -£20.02 CASH
28/09/14 FUEL DIESEL -£8.34 -£1.67 -£10.01 CASH
27/09/14 EQUIPMENT LADDERS OFF EBAY -£30.00 £0.00 -£30.00 CASH
27/09/14 ADVERTISING facebook advertising -£18.00 £0.00 -£18.00 CARD PAYMENT
26/09/14 FUEL DIESEL -£16.70 -£3.34 -£20.04 CASH
26/09/14 MATERIALS MATERIALS FOR CLEANING HOMEBASE -£22.44 -£4.49 -£26.93 CASH
26/09/14 FUEL DIESEL -£16.67 -£3.33 -£20.00 CASH
26/09/14 FUEL DIESEL -£16.66 -£3.33 -£19.99 CASH
25/09/14 EQUIPMENT TOM TOM XL SAT NAVIGATION -£68.33 -£13.67 -£82.00 CASH
24/09/14 FUEL DIESEL -£16.67 -£3.33 -£20.00 CASH
24/09/14 FUEL DIESEL -£16.68 -£3.34 -£20.02 CASH
23/09/14 FUEL UNLEADED -£16.67 -£3.33 -£20.00 CASH
23/09/14 FUEL DIESEL -£29.19 -£5.84 -£35.03 CASH
23/09/14 MATERIALS CLEANING MATERIALS RIGHTWAY -£13.83 -£2.77 -£16.60 CASH
22/09/14 EQUIPMENT LADDER CLAMPS SCREWFIX -£19.99 -£4.00 -£23.99 CASH
21/09/14 ADVERTISING facebook advertising -£17.99 £0.00 -£17.99 CARD PAYMENT
20/09/14 ROUND SOFTWARE CLEANER PLANNER -£25.00 £0.00 -£25.00 CARD PAYMENT PAID VIA PERSONAL CARD
20/09/14 MATERIALS -£7.20 -£1.44 -£8.64 CASH
20/09/14 FUEL DIESEL -£8.37 -£1.67 -£10.04 CASH
20/09/14 VEHICLE MAINTENANCE VAUXHALL COMBO FULL SERVICE,RECOVERY,BREAK PADS -£250.00 -£50.00 -£300.00 CASH
19/09/14 EQUIPMENT CORWOODS & CO WINDOW CLEANING EQUIPMENT -£205.00 -£41.00 -£246.00 CASH
19/09/14 MATERIALS O RING PLIERS -£7.50 -£1.50 -£9.00 CASH
19/09/14 VEHICLE HIRE FORD TRANSIT VEHICLE HIRE HOLLYWOOD CAR HIRE -£31.67 -£6.33 -£38.00 CASH
19/09/14 WAGES Jon King wages week 25 -£274.56 £0.00 -£274.56 BACS JON KING WAGES WEEK 25
18/09/14 FURNITURE CURVED DESK OFF EBAY -£70.00 £0.00 -£70.00 CASH
17/09/14 MATERIALS CLEANING CHEMICALS -£13.02 -£2.60 -£15.62 CASH
17/09/14 STATIONERY VARIOUS STATIONERY ITEMS -£27.88 -£5.58 -£33.46 CASH
10/09/14 MATERIALS TULSION RESIN -£60.00 -£12.00 -£72.00 CASH
10/09/14 MATERIALS HOSELOCK CONNECTORS, HOSE CLIPS -£15.43 -£3.09 -£18.52 CASH
09/09/14 MATERIALS HOSELOCK CONNECTORS -£8.73 -£1.74 -£10.47 CASH
09/09/14 MATERIALS HOSE CONNECTORS B & Q -£22.90 -£4.58 -£27.48 CASH
08/09/14 STORAGE STORAGE CONTAINER -£70.00 -£14.00 -£84.00 CARD PAYMENT PARENTS PAID VIA THERE CARD
08/09/14 VEHICLE HIRE FORD TRANSIT VEHICLE HIRE HOLLYWOOD CAR HIRE -£31.67 -£6.33 -£38.00 CASH
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where you getting paid while in nick and saving in the 2 years :P :P :P :P :P :P
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nah not a penny got stitched up by so called friend didnt expect anything but he said he would provide some money for kids etc and send me some in but never materialised had to pay to get business back a grand
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its not my idea its what my parents want to do he can make more money this way than having it in his bond like i said its an investment, hence reason were looking a repossessions etc
i will be doing it up and poss putting an extension on it, my dads just putting the cash in to buy it outright
i am turning over in region of 71k give or take a few thousand but the last few months ive prob had 6 grand expenses buying things to get the business in best possible state with equipment etc ive reinvested pretty much everything ive made hilst im on tag which comes off tmoz
im very lucky wioth the support ive recieved from family but il turn it all down hey to please u lot
You are not turning over 71k, you have only been going for a couple o months.....and aren't you having staffing problems already?
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I'm sure Jon king (joking) is very pleased to see you revealing his wages over a public forum.....
Darran
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its not my idea its what my parents want to do he can make more money this way than having it in his bond like i said its an investment, hence reason were looking a repossessions etc
i will be doing it up and poss putting an extension on it, my dads just putting the cash in to buy it outright
i am turning over in region of 71k give or take a few thousand but the last few months ive prob had 6 grand expenses buying things to get the business in best possible state with equipment etc ive reinvested pretty much everything ive made hilst im on tag which comes off tmoz
im very lucky wioth the support ive recieved from family but il turn it all down hey to please u lot
You are not turning over 71k, you have only been going for a couple o months.....and aren't you having staffing problems already?
i knwo ive not turned over 71k yet but my predictions at present will hit 71k like i said give or take a few thousand with new customers and add on work etc and schools i clean that arent active on my system etc untill they ring and book in, wouldnt say staffing issues the lad i had was a good worker but unreliable come weekends and mondays think he liked to party a little, wanted to finish work early all the time,wanted more money than we agreed wanted a van and fuel to be paid for him to get to and from work it just wasnt worth the hassle
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its not my idea its what my parents want to do he can make more money this way than having it in his bond like i said its an investment, hence reason were looking a repossessions etc
i will be doing it up and poss putting an extension on it, my dads just putting the cash in to buy it outright
i am turning over in region of 71k give or take a few thousand but the last few months ive prob had 6 grand expenses buying things to get the business in best possible state with equipment etc ive reinvested pretty much everything ive made hilst im on tag which comes off tmoz
im very lucky wioth the support ive recieved from family but il turn it all down hey to please u lot
You are not turning over 71k, you have only been going for a couple o months.....and aren't you having staffing problems already?
i knwo ive not turned over 71k yet but my predictions at present will hit 71k like i said give or take a few thousand with new customers and add on work etc and schools i clean that arent active on my system etc untill they ring and book in, wouldnt say staffing issues the lad i had was a good worker but unreliable come weekends and mondays think he liked to party a little, wanted to finish work early all the time,wanted more money than we agreed wanted a van and fuel to be paid for him to get to and from work it just wasnt worth the hassle
You had this with all your staff pre prison - I wonder what the common denominator is here ???
The problem with forecasts based on a few weeks is they are unrealistic
Week 1 - 2 customers (£30) week 2 - 4 customers (£60) week 3 - 7 customers (£110)
And low and behold !! Week 30 - 1500 customers £450,000 !!
You can quote thousands of schools etc, and not get a single one, it's go good sitting there waiting for them to ring back !!
Darran
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give it a break smudger jumping to conclusions again
im not making any figures up at all im forecasting off my regular work plus price increase, plus number of adhoc jobs etc
, ive said he was a good worker but UNRELIABLE i got the impression he didnt want to work full time hes been from job to job and kept asking me to move the goalposts would you keep accomadting staff member if they demanded this that and the other i doubt you would no
schools are primary schools we tend to clean in summer holidays etc, some once a year some once every two years and some more regular i will be contacting them after xmas to book them in
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If he was unreliable then he wasn't wasn't a good worker was he?
Isn't this the ex RM lad?
I know a few serving and ex RM, trust you to find the one mong eh?
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What conclusions have I jumped to richy ? I'm only going on what info you have supplied, a forecast is just that, in reality it means nothing, especially over a short period, you can only measure growth and then forecast over at least a years figures, if not 2 years, on a short range forecast such as yours are you taking into account the extra vehicles, staff, and logistical problems that arise, let alone seasonal effects on window cleaning ?
Sorry if another point of view has rattled your cage
Darran
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its not my idea its what my parents want to do he can make more money this way than having it in his bond like i said its an investment, hence reason were looking a repossessions etc
i will be doing it up and poss putting an extension on it, my dads just putting the cash in to buy it outright
i am turning over in region of 71k give or take a few thousand but the last few months ive prob had 6 grand expenses buying things to get the business in best possible state with equipment etc ive reinvested pretty much everything ive made hilst im on tag which comes off tmoz
im very lucky wioth the support ive recieved from family but il turn it all down hey to please u lot
You are not turning over 71k, you have only been going for a couple o months.....and aren't you having staffing problems already?
i knwo ive not turned over 71k yet but my predictions at present will hit 71k like i said give or take a few thousand with new customers and add on work etc and schools i clean that arent active on my system etc untill they ring and book in, wouldnt say staffing issues the lad i had was a good worker but unreliable come weekends and mondays think he liked to party a little, wanted to finish work early all the time,wanted more money than we agreed wanted a van and fuel to be paid for him to get to and from work it just wasnt worth the hassle
That would be staffing problems then!
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What conclusions have I jumped to richy ? I'm only going on what info you have supplied, a forecast is just that, in reality it means nothing, especially over a short period, you can only measure growth and then forecast over at least a years figures, if not 2 years, on a short range forecast such as yours are you taking into account the extra vehicles, staff, and logistical problems that arise, let alone seasonal effects on window cleaning ?
Sorry if another point of view has rattled your cage
Darran
sprry thought u was having a go at me saying im the common denominator this was out my hands in 12 weeks or so of working for he had about 5 unauthorised absences,
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If he was unreliable then he wasn't wasn't a good worker was he?
Isn't this the ex RM lad?
I know a few serving and ex RM, trust you to find the one numpty eh?
no this wasnt the ex royal marine he was thru the job centre had 15 yrs experience but seemed to have issues all the time wanting to finish work early he had six kids and only 32 so prob had problems at home
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its not my idea its what my parents want to do he can make more money this way than having it in his bond like i said its an investment, hence reason were looking a repossessions etc
i will be doing it up and poss putting an extension on it, my dads just putting the cash in to buy it outright
i am turning over in region of 71k give or take a few thousand but the last few months ive prob had 6 grand expenses buying things to get the business in best possible state with equipment etc ive reinvested pretty much everything ive made hilst im on tag which comes off tmoz
im very lucky wioth the support ive recieved from family but il turn it all down hey to please u lot
You are not turning over 71k, you have only been going for a couple o months.....and aren't you having staffing problems already?
i knwo ive not turned over 71k yet but my predictions at present will hit 71k like i said give or take a few thousand with new customers and add on work etc and schools i clean that arent active on my system etc untill they ring and book in, wouldnt say staffing issues the lad i had was a good worker but unreliable come weekends and mondays think he liked to party a little, wanted to finish work early all the time,wanted more money than we agreed wanted a van and fuel to be paid for him to get to and from work it just wasnt worth the hassle
You had this with all your staff pre prison - I wonder what the common denominator is here ???
The problem with forecasts based on a few weeks is they are unrealistic
Week 1 - 2 customers (£30) week 2 - 4 customers (£60) week 3 - 7 customers (£110)
And low and behold !! Week 30 - 1500 customers £450,000 !!
You can quote thousands of schools etc, and not get a single one, it's go good sitting there waiting for them to ring back !!
Darran
darran ive got my old rounds back again with regular work averaging approx 7300 every six weeks which is yes only 63000 a year but price rise is due in jan prices going up approx £1.50 but i also do lots of upvc jobs etc and one off commercials and work is building up every month,
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If he was unreliable then he wasn't wasn't a good worker was he?
Isn't this the ex RM lad?
I know a few serving and ex RM, trust you to find the one numpty eh?
no this wasnt the ex royal marine he was thru the job centre had 15 yrs experience but seemed to have issues all the time wanting to finish work early he had six kids and only 32 so prob had problems at home
If I had 6 kids at 32 I'd be asking for all the overtime you could give me. The last thing I'd want is an early finish.
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Yes six kids sounds like he's spending to much time at home!
Then yes richy sounds a reasonable forecast - next question to ask are you going to make money from that
Darran
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im hoping too smudger costs are well down now
cheaper insurances
no unit
less staff
pretty much most equipment bought for foreseeable future
need a larger 45ft plus pole but can wait
not as much needed on advertising
doing th work myself so i know my standards are being met
think ive got it sussed now this window cleaning lark
prob best thing for me going jail and downsizing
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Which begs the question - why did you sell drugs in the first place? We all told you to downsize, get out of the chair and do some work and employ less staff - simple. To have had such a big round before you got banged up and still have the business two years later must make you one of the luckiest offenders around. If you think you can almost clean 70k worth of work on your own then 50k should be easily acheivable for yourself and yet a couple of years back you couldn't afford to pay yourself a wage.
You and one other staff member should be ideal for a comfortable life.
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It wasn't the fact I didn't want to downsize two years ago I Cindy I was stuck in a long lease on unit which was killing me financially. My van fleet policy was very expensive, I was tied into phone contract with b t for 2 lines, things such as commercial waste bins, water rates were rip off cudnt get the rates down as one unit supplied all 3 so going prison got me away from all this as my parents were able to use it to negotiate to relieve me from contracts etc
Just steadily build now stay under vat for a year or two see how it goes I think, novelties worn off the window cleaning now a bit it's not my preferred job I don't mind the cleaning I enjoy that's it the stop and starting getting in and out van reeling in I don't really like but I'm gonna sacrifice this whilst the money comes in
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so going prison got me away from all this as my parents were able to use it to negotiate to relieve me from contracts etc
So your parents bailed you out and are now going to give you a house ::)roll
anyone would think they are keen for you to stand on your own two feet
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No wouldn't call it bailing out due to me being banged up on a 3 year sentence they pis a few cancellation fees to get out of contracts which prob wouldn't get if you just asked if you weren't in prison so luckily going prison cut ties to these contracts I was in, they did have to pay a bit but wasn't great deal
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No wouldn't call it bailing out due to me being banged up on a 3 year sentence they pis a few cancellation fees to get out of contracts which prob wouldn't get if you just asked if you weren't in prison so luckily going prison cut ties to these contracts I was in, they did have to pay a bit but wasn't great deal
Have you paid them back since your release Ritchy? Probably the tight thing to do now you are kinda turning over £71k, sort of.
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If you are projecting a turnover of 71k this year, how can you say that you will stay under the VAT threshold for a year or two?
John
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Because you can choose to stay under ye vat threshold by knocking back work and sticking with regular work that's why in interested in this topic of vat if it's beneficial going vat reg then I would but if you have to put a lot of work into it to make it work I'd rather stay below it for a year or two
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Fair enough Richie, I've just checked and found that the threshold is now £81000 in turnover before VAT registration is now required. My bad!
John