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Title: Is Matts friendly
Post by: tlwcs on November 16, 2014, 08:40:42 am
Still running?
I lost interest when a post was written on how he had changed the the industry by diying.
I have had an email a week ago saying I need to be approved.
Anybody know?
Thanks.
Tony
Title: Re: Is Matts friendly
Post by: ChumBucket on November 16, 2014, 08:54:14 am
Yep, still running
Title: Re: Is Matts friendly
Post by: tlwcs on November 16, 2014, 09:11:37 am
Yep, still running

Will you ask Matt to contact me pls?
Tony@tlwcs.co.uk
Title: Re: Is Matts friendly
Post by: ChumBucket on November 16, 2014, 09:20:01 am
Done
Title: Re: Is Matts friendly
Post by: tlwcs on November 16, 2014, 09:32:58 am
Thank you cookie?
Title: Re: Is Matts friendly
Post by: Dave Willis on November 16, 2014, 12:21:02 pm
Still running?
I lost interest when a post was written on how he had changed the the industry by diying.
I have had an email a week ago saying I need to be approved.
Anybody know?
Thanks.
Tony


I don't think if Matt Died the industry would change - where did you get that information from?  ???
Title: Re: Is Matts friendly
Post by: tlwcs on November 16, 2014, 12:50:23 pm
Still running?
I lost interest when a post was written on how he had changed the the industry by diying.
I have had an email a week ago saying I need to be approved.
Anybody know?
Thanks.
Tony


I don't think if Matt Died the industry would change - where did you get that information from?  ???


Hi Dave, A thread was written about how he was being watched while he was working and the bloke offered him a coffee at a cafe.He then said that he was from a large company that had been hampered by Matts diying.
You must remember it?
Tony
Title: Re: Is Matts friendly
Post by: slap bash on November 16, 2014, 02:44:14 pm
What a lot of twaddle . PLEASE EXPLAIN.
Title: Re: Is Matts friendly
Post by: Smudger on November 16, 2014, 02:53:11 pm
Ok English would be cool, but I think the story goes like this..

Matt ( who now has his own forum ) was a keen DIY WFP man, some years ago it was reported that an executive from a well known pole manufacturer tracked Matt down and put forward his case that too many windies were DIY ing equipment and costing them sales.

Please note this only hear say, and rumour I gleed a few years back, Matt runs a small forum, with great members which is not allowed to be named, but alas for me it run out of steam...😫  haven't been on there for a while, but I assume it's still running.

Darran
Title: Re: Is Matts friendly
Post by: slap bash on November 16, 2014, 05:28:59 pm
If Matt did not do DIY some one else would have as diy mostly always comes before before some one cashes in on it. I still think there is room for more DiY. Some manufacturers have no idea and don`t always know were to go with good ideas. Its the DIYer that started the ball rolling. Before we came along your customers DIY there own window and we made them lazy. The Gardeners were the DIYer at one time, not so long ago.Well done to Matt for the HARRIS POLE still a good pole today.
Title: Re: Is Matts friendly
Post by: richard groves on November 16, 2014, 06:01:20 pm
Why exactly can a diy forum site not be mentioned on ciu ?
Title: Re: Is Matts friendly
Post by: Dave Willis on November 16, 2014, 06:38:41 pm
No other forums are allowed to be posted on here - just one of the rules.

Can't remember where the rules are mind  ;D
Title: Re: Is Matts friendly
Post by: rosskesava on November 16, 2014, 06:59:49 pm
Matt did come up with a lot of good ideas DIY wise but I'd hardly say he changed the industry.

There will always be those who will look at an off the peg piece of equipment and make their own for much less money and that would have been the case regardless of Matt. He's not the only person who knew how to use a screwdriver.
Title: Re: Is Matts friendly
Post by: ChumBucket on November 16, 2014, 07:05:34 pm
Matt did come up with a lot of good ideas DIY wise but I'd hardly say he changed the industry.

There will always be those who will look at an off the peg piece of equipment and make their own for much less money and that would have been the case regardless of Matt. He's not the only person who knew how to use a screwdriver.

matt never claimed to have changed the industry.

Ionics sponsored this site for a short period a few years ago, the owner & mods stabbed matt in the back & turfed him off this forum under pressure from Ionics because of his DIY attitude. matt, by the way, contributed a massive amount to this site before that episode.
Title: Re: Is Matts friendly
Post by: rosskesava on November 17, 2014, 12:15:55 am
matt never claimed to have changed the industry.

Ionics sponsored this site for a short period a few years ago, the owner & mods stabbed matt in the back & turfed him off this forum under pressure from Ionics because of his DIY attitude. matt, by the way, contributed a massive amount to this site before that episode.

I was going by what was posted before where that claim above was made about Matt. I go by the information posted and not by what isn't.

I have to admit I was surprised by that claim stated about Matt because he never struck me as that type of person who would say that even if it was true.

Yes, I know Matt contributed a lot and yes I know Ionics, Philip Hanson, etc, etc. I was also using this forum at the time. The problem really started not from what Matt posted on here, but from when he started his own forum and kept posting links to it on here.

In those days a lot of people contributed a lot also just as they do now although the numbers using the forum were much less.
Title: Re: Is Matts friendly
Post by: ChumBucket on November 17, 2014, 07:58:58 am
matt never claimed to have changed the industry.

Ionics sponsored this site for a short period a few years ago, the owner & mods stabbed matt in the back & turfed him off this forum under pressure from Ionics because of his DIY attitude. matt, by the way, contributed a massive amount to this site before that episode.

I was going by what was posted before where that claim above was made about Matt. I go by the information posted and not by what isn't.

I have to admit I was surprised by that claim stated about Matt because he never struck me as that type of person who would say that even if it was true.

Yes, I know Matt contributed a lot and yes I know Ionics, Philip Hanson, etc, etc. I was also using this forum at the time. The problem really started not from what Matt posted on here, but from when he started his own forum and kept posting links to it on here.

In those days a lot of people contributed a lot also just as they do now although the numbers using the forum were much less.

Matt was banned from here because of Ionics (sponsor) influence on the spineless. This is the reason matt started another forum so the problem started before matt created his forum. He didn't post links to his previous DIY forum but most users at the time were aware of it anyway.
Title: Re: Is Matts friendly
Post by: richard groves on November 17, 2014, 09:38:17 am
matt never claimed to have changed the industry.

Ionics sponsored this site for a short period a few years ago, the owner & mods stabbed matt in the back & turfed him off this forum under pressure from Ionics because of his DIY attitude. matt, by the way, contributed a massive amount to this site before that episode.

I was going by what was posted before where that claim above was made about Matt. I go by the information posted and not by what isn't.

I have to admit I was surprised by that claim stated about Matt because he never struck me as that type of person who would say that even if it was true.

Yes, I know Matt contributed a lot and yes I know Ionics, Philip Hanson, etc, etc. I was also using this forum at the time. The problem really started not from what Matt posted on here, but from when he started his own forum and kept posting links to it on here.

In those days a lot of people contributed a lot also just as they do now although the numbers using the forum were much less.

Matt was banned from here because of Ionics (sponsor) influence on the spineless. This is the reason matt started another forum so the problem started before matt created his forum. He didn't post links to his previous DIY forum but most users at the time were aware of it anyway.
So, it was a case of David and Goliath !
Shame really, innovation still has its roots in the end user and those tinkering away in their garden sheds.
Title: Re: Is Matts friendly
Post by: gary999 on November 17, 2014, 10:12:03 am
Matt, Jeff brimble ,jouk etc were great innovators and suppliers have
fed off a lot of their ideas(lighter poles and brushes swivels,quick release
angle adapters) over the years.

They gave a lot of free ideas that helped  lots ofpeople who were being
ripped off by the suppliers of the time...Matts diy forum was a invaluable
source of info for myself..things change and move on but I was grateful at
the time for the help it offered.
Title: Re: Is Matts friendly
Post by: Dave Willis on November 17, 2014, 10:51:17 am
All other forums seem to struggle to get the traffic through them - it's only members from this forum anyway saying the same things.
Since the moderating seems more relaxed here these days it seems a far happier place - bit of banter, loads of ballpoop, one or two self promoting numpties and plenty of one man bands - all helps to make it entertaining.  ;D


I think Matt got upset when the sponsors came in to this site with their banners at the top and he felt they couldn't be criticized for any duff products they might be pushing and so decided to make an independent forum.
Backfired a bit because the sponsors are soon discovered for substandard products and have to work harder to improve them. In the early days the posts were removed.
Title: Re: Is Matts friendly
Post by: Bob Stones on November 17, 2014, 09:49:31 pm
matt never claimed to have changed the industry.

Ionics sponsored this site for a short period a few years ago, the owner & mods stabbed matt in the back & turfed him off this forum under pressure from Ionics because of his DIY attitude. matt, by the way, contributed a massive amount to this site before that episode.

I was going by what was posted before where that claim above was made about Matt. I go by the information posted and not by what isn't.

I have to admit I was surprised by that claim stated about Matt because he never struck me as that type of person who would say that even if it was true.

Yes, I know Matt contributed a lot and yes I know Ionics, Philip Hanson, etc, etc. I was also using this forum at the time. The problem really started not from what Matt posted on here, but from when he started his own forum and kept posting links to it on here.

In those days a lot of people contributed a lot also just as they do now although the numbers using the forum were much less.

Matt was banned from here because of Ionics (sponsor) influence on the spineless. This is the reason Matt started another forum so the problem started before Matt created his forum. He didn't post links to his previous DIY forum but most users at the time were aware of it anyway.

We know the truth as someone from Ionics admitted it on here, the post was quickly deleted by a mod, I remember it well, they were heavily sponsoring here and wanted him gone, it was nothing to do with links to other forums, solely down to silencing him on here, admin was given a job and he completed it, he then setup his own forum after a discussion on his DIYWFP site

Ref people asking did he or did he not have a influence in the industry, when he was writing about the Harris and fishing pole people were still using heavy fiberglass poles with no other options, now we have numerous lightweight poles

He was always willing to help, he had made over 9000 posts here when he was banned 4 & 1/2 years ago
Title: Re: Is Matts friendly
Post by: dd on November 18, 2014, 08:39:32 am
I remember his posts on here and he really seemed to hate Ionics, always thought he was ott in his attitude towards them, because yes, they may sell overpriced systems but are a legitimate business, and how many on here boast about how they can earn £40 plus an hour just for cleaning windows?
Title: Re: Is Matts friendly
Post by: gary999 on November 18, 2014, 08:48:05 am
Most people still think ionics are rip off merchants ;D
Title: Re: Is Matts friendly
Post by: robert mitchell on November 18, 2014, 09:20:13 am
Most people still think ionics are rip off merchants ;D


There prices can be a joke thats for sure ............ did you see that new trolley they come up with ! £££££££££££££££ :o
Title: Re: Is Matts friendly
Post by: CleanClear on November 18, 2014, 09:40:42 am
I read what Matt said, and it may have sounded conceited when he said Ionics blamed him for a dint in their sales but it is no doubt true. Anyway, instead of the whole Window Cleaning Academy / Ionics Cartel, we now have a new one...MGWC / Window Cleaning Magazine / Reach IT.    ;D

And i like Mark Munroes better anyway  ;D
Title: Re: Is Matts friendly
Post by: Window Lickers on November 18, 2014, 09:54:47 am
What a load of twaddle, especially considering the fact that 95% of window cleaners in the UK have never heard of CIU.


Matt still comes on here btw, just you wouldn't recognise him.
Title: Re: Is Matts friendly
Post by: Dave Willis on November 18, 2014, 05:54:08 pm
Has he had his hair cut  ???
Title: Re: Is Matts friendly
Post by: wfp master on November 18, 2014, 06:39:09 pm
hes bald now & walks with a limp.
Title: Re: Is Matts friendly
Post by: P @ F on November 19, 2014, 06:46:33 pm
WELL THEN , if any of you knows what he looks and walks like now , can you ask him to approve me on his site ...........Im still waiting  ??? ??? ???

Rich
Title: Re: Is Matts friendly
Post by: ChumBucket on November 19, 2014, 08:16:27 pm
WELL THEN , if any of you knows what he looks and walks like now , can you ask him to approve me on his site ...........Im still waiting  ??? ??? ???

Rich

Since when Rich? Might be worth re-applying.
Title: Re: Is Matts friendly
Post by: P @ F on November 19, 2014, 08:52:37 pm
Could be my impatience  ;D ;D , but i think i applied at the weekend ?
How long does it usualy take ?

I have had the email saying awaiting approval , maybe Matts on his hols  ;D ;D

Rich
Title: Re: Is Matts friendly
Post by: ChumBucket on November 19, 2014, 08:56:52 pm
Could be my impatience  ;D ;D , but i think i applied at the weekend ?
How long does it usualy take ?

I have had the email saying awaiting approval , maybe Matts on his hols  ;D ;D

Rich

I'll give him a nudge ;)
Title: Re: Is Matts friendly
Post by: P @ F on November 19, 2014, 09:11:01 pm
Thanks Mr Chumbucket , most appreciated !!

Rich
Title: Re: Is Matts friendly
Post by: rosskesava on November 19, 2014, 09:24:03 pm
What a load of twaddle, especially considering the fact that 95% of window cleaners in the UK have never heard of CIU.


Matt still comes on here btw, just you wouldn't recognise him.

Why doesn't he come on here under his own name?
Title: Re: Is Matts friendly
Post by: P @ F on November 19, 2014, 09:33:10 pm
What a load of twaddle, especially considering the fact that 95% of window cleaners in the UK have never heard of CIU.


Matt still comes on here btw, just you wouldn't recognise him.

Why doesn't he come on here under his own name?

cos he would get  banned again i suspect , for helping others , heaven forbid  ;D
Title: Re: Is Matts friendly
Post by: Mick Kent on November 19, 2014, 09:41:46 pm
Did matt have 6000 posts under his former alias by any chance?  :-X
Title: Re: Is Matts friendly
Post by: rosskesava on November 19, 2014, 09:58:25 pm
cos he would get  banned again i suspect , for helping others , heaven forbid  ;D

I can't really see that happening. Loads on here help others and they don't get banned.




Title: Re: Is Matts friendly
Post by: ChumBucket on November 19, 2014, 10:35:23 pm
Did matt have 6000 posts under his former alias by any chance?  :-X

No but I did as WinProClean ;D till Tosh banned me for not agreeing with him that someone peddling drugs is no worse than someone selling alcohol! WTF? tell who the alci is eh ::)roll
Title: Re: Is Matts friendly
Post by: Dave Willis on November 20, 2014, 04:59:09 pm
 ;D ;D missed that one.