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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Jim Waugh(Albright & Shiny) on November 13, 2014, 09:24:56 pm

Title: paying canvaser
Post by: Jim Waugh(Albright & Shiny) on November 13, 2014, 09:24:56 pm
How much do you guys expect to pay a canvaser for each new customer they sign up
Title: Re: paying canvaser
Post by: Mick Kent on November 13, 2014, 09:30:12 pm
X2 is the going rate. More than a fair price.
Title: Re: paying canvaser
Post by: richywilts on November 13, 2014, 09:30:23 pm
i used to pay face value had two methods

first one was contact customers first, confirm interested, book first clean in....pay out

second one i used to pay a percent up front cant remember if was 60-70% of face value

what i found tho with these methods canvasser was putting in daft prices just to get quantity, he also told cusotmers to admit they were agreeing to sign up for minimum of three cleans then cancel

i dont trust canvassers, yes you will get busy but busy fool doing loads of first cleans and sifting thru a load of crap

Title: Re: paying canvaser
Post by: Deangsi on November 13, 2014, 10:27:02 pm
I don't think a decent canvasser would do this as they have a reputation to keep, especially since alot of there clients use this forum. Dot get me wrong im sure there are idiots out there. But im sure they don't get away with it for long at all
Title: Re: paying canvaser
Post by: Whizz-Bizz on November 13, 2014, 10:36:09 pm
You say that Deangsi in the last 4 weeks Ive had cleaners ringing me complaining about 3 different canvassing crews, I just think these canvassers dont understand the industry, and believe the customers at the door.

In answer to the initial question Ive been paying my canvassers £60 a day, and there told to target front onlys, with the minimum target of 10 customers a day, with a small bonus for 15+

Hope this helps
Title: Re: paying canvaser
Post by: Jim Waugh(Albright & Shiny) on November 13, 2014, 10:50:26 pm
This helps immensely peeps Thanks..  :)
Title: Re: paying canvaser
Post by: richywilts on November 13, 2014, 10:56:31 pm
sorry just to clarify i employed that window cleaner as self employed he wasnt a business as such

dont get me wrong he didnt half get customers in but 80% prob turned out crap over 2 year spell after
Title: Re: paying canvaser
Post by: Whizz-Bizz on November 13, 2014, 11:06:26 pm
The main advantage Ive got over the cleaners is Im in a position to watch the little blighters like a hawk.
Title: Re: paying canvaser
Post by: Caleb Morley on November 13, 2014, 11:11:18 pm
You say that Deangsi in the last 4 weeks Ive had cleaners ringing me complaining about 3 different canvassing crews, I just think these canvassers dont understand the industry, and believe the customers at the door.

In answer to the initial question Ive been paying my canvassers £60 a day, and there told to target front onlys, with the minimum target of 10 customers a day, with a small bonus for 15+

Hope this helps

Do you target front onlys because it's an easier sell? IE a foot in the door. Cleaning the back can be discussed on the 2nd or 3rd clean once they are happy and familiar with you. It's a tactic I'm using after the initial introduction: "Would you like a price for the front of YOUR (key word use it chaps) home?".
Title: Re: paying canvaser
Post by: Whizz-Bizz on November 13, 2014, 11:21:31 pm
Because I canvass for alot of cleaners I just find its the best deal for the window cleaner, your getting the whole house for the price of the front, and it just kills one of the biggest objections straight of the bat, stops them saying oh I cant have a cleaner because of access issues.
Title: Re: paying canvaser
Post by: Tom-01 on November 13, 2014, 11:56:41 pm
Because I canvass for alot of cleaners I just find its the best deal for the window cleaner, your getting the whole house for the price of the front, and it just kills one of the biggest objections straight of the bat, stops them saying oh I cant have a cleaner because of access issues.

I don't believe that.
Title: Re: paying canvaser
Post by: Whizz-Bizz on November 14, 2014, 12:32:49 am
What you having difficulties with ? To me it makes perfect sense
Title: Re: paying canvaser
Post by: Leeds on November 14, 2014, 10:10:44 am
What you having difficulties with ? To me it makes perfect sense

90% of people what like all their windows cleaned. not just half a job
Title: Re: paying canvaser
Post by: Whizz-Bizz on November 14, 2014, 11:59:45 am
Its not that high, but if what your saying is correct, then buying front canvassed work is definitely the best option, it leaves you free to switch to a whole house and price it exactly how you want it priced with the benefit being youve only paid the front price for that job.

 
Title: Re: paying canvaser
Post by: pdale on November 14, 2014, 08:06:07 pm
I charge x2 Jim Waugh, plus some extra to cover b&b if I'm travelling a distance. It seems to be the going rate, unless you can get someone local, ie students, or someone working part time, which has its advantages and disadvantages.
Title: Re: paying canvaser
Post by: Caleb Morley on November 15, 2014, 10:06:40 pm
You say that Deangsi in the last 4 weeks Ive had cleaners ringing me complaining about 3 different canvassing crews, I just think these canvassers dont understand the industry, and believe the customers at the door.

In answer to the initial question Ive been paying my canvassers £60 a day, and there told to target front onlys, with the minimum target of 10 customers a day, with a small bonus for 15+

Hope this helps

How often do they hit the 10 customer target?
Title: Re: paying canvaser
Post by: Caleb Morley on November 15, 2014, 10:09:24 pm
I charge x2 Jim Waugh, plus some extra to cover b&b if I'm travelling a distance. It seems to be the going rate, unless you can get someone local, ie students, or someone working part time, which has its advantages and disadvantages.

Are you offering canvassing?
Title: Re: paying canvaser
Post by: G.W.C on November 16, 2014, 07:35:20 am
I charge x2 Jim Waugh, plus some extra to cover b&b if I'm travelling a distance. It seems to be the going rate, unless you can get someone local, ie students, or someone working part time, which has its advantages and disadvantages.
I sent you an email at the start of the week paul, can you check and get back to me please
Title: Re: paying canvaser
Post by: pdale on November 16, 2014, 11:40:23 pm
Quote from: Caleb
Are you offering canvassing?

I have had a sticky advert in this section for over a year now for canvassing. If you follow the link in my signature at the bottom it should take you to it.

Quote from: Wardlo
I sent you an email at the start of the week paul, can you check and get back to me please

Replied.
Title: Re: paying canvaser
Post by: Caleb Morley on November 17, 2014, 02:49:40 pm
Quote from: Caleb
Are you offering canvassing?

I have had a sticky advert in this section for over a year now for canvassing. If you follow the link in my signature at the bottom it should take you to it.

Quote from: Wardlo
I sent you an email at the start of the week paul, can you check and get back to me please

Replied.

I was taking the mick out of the bit at the bottom of you're posts in large font.
Title: Re: paying canvaser
Post by: Whizz-Bizz on November 19, 2014, 09:41:42 pm
You say that Deangsi in the last 4 weeks Ive had cleaners ringing me complaining about 3 different canvassing crews, I just think these canvassers dont understand the industry, and believe the customers at the door.

In answer to the initial question Ive been paying my canvassers £60 a day, and there told to target front onlys, with the minimum target of 10 customers a day, with a small bonus for 15+

Hope this helps

How often do they hit the 10 customer target?

Everytime pretty much I do cut a little slack so if they hit say 12 on Monday 13 on Tuesday and 8 on Wednesday for example Ill pay the rate, but I will word them to up on Thursday. We do long days so its quite hard not to hit 10
Title: Re: paying canvaser
Post by: crystal.clear on November 20, 2014, 05:07:29 pm
Whizz - bizz when u next free to do a couple of weeks
Title: Re: paying canvaser
Post by: Caleb Morley on November 20, 2014, 06:38:50 pm
You say that Deangsi in the last 4 weeks Ive had cleaners ringing me complaining about 3 different canvassing crews, I just think these canvassers dont understand the industry, and believe the customers at the door.

In answer to the initial question Ive been paying my canvassers £60 a day, and there told to target front onlys, with the minimum target of 10 customers a day, with a small bonus for 15+

Hope this helps

How often do they hit the 10 customer target?

Everytime pretty much I do cut a little slack so if they hit say 12 on Monday 13 on Tuesday and 8 on Wednesday for example Ill pay the rate, but I will word them to up on Thursday. We do long days so its quite hard not to hit 10

What do you define as a long day?

I hit 1 new customer per hour (to clarify I don't assault them, get new customer is what I mean).

Is that about right as a ratio?

I've always thought canvassing before 5pm is pointless as less people home, but I'm guessing you have proved that to be wrong.
Title: Re: paying canvaser
Post by: Whizz-Bizz on November 20, 2014, 09:49:02 pm
You'll have to give me a ring/email crystal for more info,

I try to get out for about 12 and have a decent break about 4 then back on it again from 5 till 7 in the winter, and 8 in the summer. It can sometimes get a bit soul destroying around 2 ish as the doors dont open much but I just power thru it and make the most of the contacts.

1 an hour is quite standard, I dont hang around too long at the door waiting for an answer, and pretty much run from house to house, I personally average 15-20 a day so about 2.5 an hour