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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: SimonW on November 05, 2014, 09:53:05 am
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Ok people! Let's make things clear!!
Are you shy of sharing it with us, simply just lie!
And seriously if you're proud of your earnings
post here what's your average of weekly income?
Only carpet and upholstery cleaning considered!
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not enough!!! but as a fairly new start up im happy with my growth its going well generally speaking.
Waiting to see how quiet the next few months will be for me...............
Definatley wouldnt have wanted to start up with no other income coming in..........
is anybody actually going to post their income on open forum?????
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When you say "income" do you mean Turnover or Drawings, as they are 2 different items on your accounts, and i dont think that anybody is going to disclose either of them, all I will say is I am Turning over below the VAT threshold and I would not want to trade above the threshold as an owner /operator.
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No one is going to tell you what they earn .
And it's not all about money cc .
For a lot it fits in with their life and not with a employers .
I don't work many hrs as I have rhumatoid Arthritis and a single parent so this job is worth £50,000 a year as that's what I would have to earn to do what I do now . Every school holiday off start at 11 finish at 2pm
No body telling what to do time off when I want it .
Money is just a score card 95% will have higher scores than me but I'm winning
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Ok people! Let's make things clear!!
Are you shy of sharing it with us, simply just lie!
And seriously if you're proud of your earnings
post here what's your average of weekly income?
Only carpet and upholstery cleaning considered!
Lets start with YOU !!!!
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Changed my title ;)
If I could hit £350 every day I work and be finished for 2.30pm I would be happy.
I get lots of £350 days but not consistently .
If I could cut down my £700 monthly leaflet bill I'd be happier as well
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Simon
Is there a reason for asking? Or are you pleased with your income and want to feel smug compared to others? Alternatively, do you feel you could do better and want to know what you can aspire towards?
My answer would be to earn enough to enjoy a good work/life balance; save regularly; build up a business that can then be sold for good money and retire (if you are lucky) early from a need to generate income. And, yes, I've done all that just from cleaning carpets and upholstery.
Rog
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About 10 years ago I was speaking to someone who worked at the Inland Revenue. They told me that they have benchmark median earnings for each type of business. This is to give them an idea of what the average for each group should be so they can monitor any large discrepancies. At the time she said that carpet cleaning net income was at around £15,000.
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10 years ago John :) only doing that now, mind you only do part time.
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No one is going to tell you what they earn .
And it's not all about money cc .
For a lot it fits in with their life and not with a employers .
I don't work many hrs as I have rhumatoid Arthritis and a single parent so this job is worth £50,000 a year as that's what I would have to earn to do what I do now . Every school holiday off start at 11 finish at 2pm
No body telling what to do time off when I want it .
Money is just a score card 95% will have higher scores than me but I'm winning
Agreed Neil.
I too only work short hours, Only advertising is internet presence. A lot of repeats and referrals though.
Paul
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What's the VAT threshold? Somewhere around £75,000 isn't it?
From what I can see, if you wanted to 'work hard', including some weekends, only take 4 weeks holiday a year, and be good at running a business (especially marketing) I can see someone turning over £70,000+ a year in this game.
Personally, I don't want or need it...
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We do have a fair few VAT registered customers, one man bands not employers.
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David, the VAT threshold is £81,000,
John, your one man band customers who are VAT registered are they carpet cleaners only or do they do restoration work such as floods etc ?
cheers
Paul.
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About 10 years ago I was speaking to someone who worked at the Inland Revenue. They told me that they have benchmark median earnings for each type of business. This is to give them an idea of what the average for each group should be so they can monitor any large discrepancies. At the time she said that carpet cleaning net income was at around £15,000.
[/quote£14,000 for me mate ;D
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Cleaners, not conversant with what they all do. I know some stick to carpets but others will mix in hard floors and pressure washing.
Restoration guys I deal with are all VAT registered.
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The Vat threshold is 81 thousand pounds,you lucky feckers.Here in Ireland its only 29.000 thousand pounds(37.000 euro. :o
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che2clean, are you sure about 37k? think is lower a bit, can you provide some weblink to that info.
easy to make a turnover over 30 some k so need to be carefull. 13.5% extra to the bill that i could not claim much back is a bit of pain.
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I had two thoughts for making this topic.
Firstly I am new in this business and main thing was to ensure that in future I can make a living from it plus additional services such as driveway cleaning may give decent earnings.
Secondly as well I had to ensure I didn't jump into deep water where already there are hundreds of companies across the country.
Of course I went with an idea for this business because I like it I really do. Enjoyable. From the other hand in some point I expect that one day I'll leave my job and cc will become my main plan.
Written from my phone.
Thanks guys! My weekly NET income is about 100quid so far!
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Hi Radek,its 37.500.hope this helps,just google vat threshold in Ireland.
Threshold value - how interpreted in practice? Notional “Tax exclusive”
value.
In the past there have been problems in interpreting the application of the
thresholds. The “12 monthly” thresholds of €37,500 (services) and €75,000
(supply of goods) should be treated as referring to the notional “tax exclusive”
element of a traders turnover. For example, a trader whose annual purchases
of stock for resale are, say, €67,000 (€55,372 plus €11,628 VAT at 21.5%)
and whose actual turnover is, say €85,000, is not obliged to register. This is
because the trader’s turnover, after deduction of the €11,628 VAT charged to
him or her on the purchases of stock, is below the registration limit of
€75,000.
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thanks for that
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Mike H don't you work 7 days a week? 300-350 a day adds up obviously not including the countless holiday days you have off.
Neil 3 hours a day 40 weeks a year for £50k have I got that right? Good on you if I have.
Shaun
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During the summer with the pressure washing I tend to work 7 days with the weekends just mornings.
At the moment I'm doing 5 days but as soon as get booked up for 2 weeks I will start working the weekends.
Like I said I would love to hit £350 every day but like today it worked out at £180 due to inconvenient bookings ( people not letting me start at 8-8-30) they wanted 10.30 and I could not get a job booked in before hand.
A couple of days with just single carpet jobs and it knacks up the full weeks taking.
But still had 7 weeks holiday this year plus 3 or 4 weekend breaks :)
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It will be a lot less if I have to pay overtime on there holidays! ;D
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Shaun
I meant I do chuff all most of the time and get by .
I've had big money in the 80s mining contracting , you tend to live to what you earn so I keep my outgoings low and my income just a bit higher . I've had the same alltec machine since 2003 and it's only had the two vacs and pump changed once .
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I mentioned on another post last week about cleaning leather as an add on service, again most homes or commercial businesses will have pigmented,synthetic/imitation leather furniture as these are the most popular and also the easiest and quickest types to clean. I know guys who just do this type of cleaning and are earning anywhere from €50 to €75 per hour depending on which type of home or business they are working in, they are carrying out the cleaning manually with not much physical effort and all without any machinery, they are also making extra income in offering leather protection, again just sharing from my experience as i know it to be more profitable than just cleaning carpets and upholstery.
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Neil if everyone worked luthier finances like that the country would be in a far better state! I am surprised that you are still in the business my mother has very bad arthritis it only gets worse I'm afraid.
Shaun
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I noticed few important aspect of running a business and you guys shared also ideas worth of attention.
Thanks a lot!
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Simon
Forget what others are earning Fomulate your plan and put it into action But you have to spend on Marketing not the odd £40
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Ian
Your wrong , my complete marketing send is £47 a year haven't spent more than that in 10 years
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Ian
Your wrong , my complete marketing send is £47 a year haven't spent more than that in 10 years
Yea but as you said earlier....
"I do chuff all most of the time and get by "
So your saying .....if you want to do chuff all spend £47 a year.
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Ian
Your wrong , my complete marketing send is £47 a year haven't spent more than that in 10 years
Neil
You, Derek West, and a few others are clever buggers and do not spend on Advertising . It could be your market is a Big City so Yep if you can get away with £47 great but the rest of us have to work our Balls off . Never heard me speak like that before i leave mike and shaun to do the moderating ;D ;D
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I spend nowt on advertising, and only on a web site for the last 2 years...
But I don't clean carpets or upholstery any more.... Just removed the website from the t'internet......
So my income is now nowt... :o
I am now retired from the cleaning industry as a professional (shut it Simon ;) ;D )
Am going to put my hobby to good use as an income..
Breeding and selling exotic parrots...
Unfortunately for you lot though..... I like it on here and will stay here to bug you all..
;D ;D
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Who's a pretty boy then ;D
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:P :P
;D
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I am now retired from the cleaning industry as a professional (shut it Simon ;) ;D )
;D ;D
Hector,
Perish the thought that I would even contemplate asking how you can retire from something you've never been? ;D
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I am now retired from the cleaning industry as a professional (shut it Simon ;) ;D )
;D ;D
Hector,
Perish the thought that I would even contemplate asking how you can retire from something you've never been? ;D
You will keep.......
:'(
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Ian
Your wrong , my complete marketing send is £47 a year haven't spent more than that in 10 years
Neil
You, Derek West, and a few others are clever buggers and do not spend on Advertising . It could be your market is a Big City so Yep if you can get away with £47 great but the rest of us have to work our Balls off . Never heard me speak like that before i leave mike and shaun to do the moderating ;D ;D
Ian , ill tell you what Mike h told me "MOVE"
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I thought i also persuaded you to move Neil do not get me wrong Im thrilled its worked out for you and you have not got to worry about Leaflets , letters etc
Hector after all these years you put a spell on me to go LM know you quit
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is the parrot thing true?
I thought you hypnosis fat birds to think they are slim?
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Yes Tony the parrot thing is true... so is the hypnosis.
Breeding parrots from home gives me time to get the hypnosis going properly too, and I am getting into mentalism in a big way.... It is fascinating how Derran Brown gets away with his act.... ;D
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Hector after all these years you put a spell on me to go LM know you quit
All the more time to give you personal one on one advice Ian...
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That sounds a bit ominous Ian I'd watch out do not look in his eyes!
Shaun
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just relax Shaun..... relax........ relax.....
;D ;D
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Squeaky bum time :o
Shaun
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Thats why I am taking up Parrots ??? ???
Perhaps I better start with a Budgie
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My account has 12 carpet cleaners on his books. He won't divulge, but he has said that all of them are very small earners.
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yeah there's no money in it really. Buts its not all about money. :)
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I stopped carpet cleaning quite a while ago but have other business interests (nothing to do with Polly's) how ever just for fun I still do the occasional job as I did today and keep equipment to play around with,
Carpet cleaning was never going to achieve the kind of income I was after but was useful as an add on I may restart it but employ someone to do the cleaning and take a cut but certainly will never be a main core business.
Big earning carpet cleaners are very very few and far between, I know several that do sales over 100k but not on their own, so the question what is your income is irrelevant, it should be what can 'realistically' earned and will it provide me with a living.
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what can 'realistically' earned and will it provide me with a living?
There you go give me some honest answers.
I still believe if I'll continue cc and quietly soon I might start also with driveway cleaning that may make a sense.
After all why shouldn't I add another extra service? :)
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Simon,
I'm not sure what it is you want us to say.
How much you earn depends on so many things; what equipment you have, the quality and quantity of your marketing, how driven you are to succeed, the quality of your work, what the running costs of your business, which defines how much you need to charge in the first place.
But you should be able to do £1k a week, much more if you have a TM and the customers.
Sim
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If we are realistic we are not investment banker or movie stars, our earnings will never set the world alight but in the great scheme of things we do ok.
We can earn more than....
Police officerers
Firemen
Teachers
Office managers
Electricians
Bricklayers
Dog breaders
Binmen
Lorry drivers
Hotel managers...etc...etc...etc...etc
All for a lot less hours and usually with a lot less stress.
My wife is a manager with the NHS, I earn double what she earns and she has worked for them for over 30yrs she has a degree and hates her job, her only saving grace is her brilliant pension which she collects in 3yrs.
Simon W , if I was to move to a different part of the country and start completely fresh (but have all equipment and van) I would aim to be earning 40k in 3yrs with 30k profit
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Simon
this should answer all your questions
http://uk.businessesforsale.com/uk/search/Carpet-Cleaning-Equipment-Businesses-for-sale
Lists turnover
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I made £98 last week, I've been going 12 years so obviously not reached my peak yet, I think I can improve on that though.
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My missus earned more per hour last week than I did, she only worked 4 hours I'm not going to say what she earned but I think she's spent it on Christmas presents at meadowhall with the amount of bags she brought back.
We are fortunate we get our money up, police offices get their pensions and time off, my mate is a teacher and that is money for old rope IMO he's planning his retirement in 11 years when he's 57 and in his own words he doesn't get stressed like some of the teachers that can't handle the job he's a head of department at a secondary school so he's an achiever not the normal diabolical teacher.
Shaun
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I made £98 last week, I've been going 12 years so obviously not reached my peak yet, I think I can improve on that though.
£98 or £980...?
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The best I can offer is around £50 a hour.
but how many hours do I work ?
NOT MANY
Paul
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I see a lot depends from my commitment to this business.
As been said previously everyone has different expectations.
If I'll make weekly 1k turnover oh God that'll be wonderful!
Believe me or not but I really relay on my business idea and I am going to put everything to achieve well established professional cleaning company.
And after many years hopefully I'll sell it or pass it to my kid.
Who knows?...
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Simon w
One thing that will help you achieve succes in cc is to totally imerss yourself in it to the point of obsesivness .
And remember marketing and upselling ,repeats, is where you make the money .
They need to trust and like you .
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Simon,
Success is something that you build and plan for. If you want to be successful you will have to have the funds available to you from the beginning to put into buying proper equipment and training and then marketing and all the other bits you need to form a professional carpet cleaning company. If try and do all of this on a shoestring budget you won't get very far.
Good luck though
Simon
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I have a nearly new Mercedes , phone , home phone , some household bills paid , holidays paid for if near to a work related exhibition /conference i attend , clothing paid for , i have forged links with customers met in the course of work that have lead to discounted trades , cheap houses , and many other services, i average 3k a month net , but would need a 90k salary for a 30 hour week before tax to be better off than I am right now.
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Didn't know you had a mercedes Jason.....
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But you should be able to do £1k a week, much more if you have a TM and the customers.
Its also possible to do that in a weekend depending how, where and when you want to work.
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£98 a week would do me if the missus moved out, she often says that's all I'd have left after a 60 hour week if she did! I asked why the pay rise ?
Shaun
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If you are looking for a turnover of over 100k then forget all the bullpoop on this thread.
There are only 2 posts that are relevant. The first is the last post from Simon Gerrard and the other is from CleaningSystems UK.
Invest in the right equipment - and that isn't always cheap - and work the jobs that pay the money
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A guy who I know has a plumbing company, he really couldn’t give an arse about the business he has. He couldn’t care less about the people he employs, he has disregard for the general public and speaks to his customers like something on his shoe.
Someone from united utilities called him at home at about 7.30am regarding his company taking over the gas contract for several sites in the UK. His reply "because you have woke me up at this time, you can take your proposal and shove it up your arse sideways, never ever ring me again"
He sits around all day at home, cleans his cars, goes golfing or “take me gun and murder things that fly or crawl” as he puts it.
The injustice of this is the fact that his company turns a small fortune and have no doubt that he has over a million tucked away, the tosser!
In my case, I work really hard to gain the elusive few that want work. My contracts are worth 1 tenth of his value contracts. I’m nice to people who occasionally disregard me or talk down to me. I make a modest income and have to be very busy to do that.
Who’s the fool in this equation??? :(