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Title: Pole damaged in post
Post by: paulswindows on November 02, 2014, 02:23:19 pm
I sold a Brodex HA36 alumuminium pole on Ebay a couple of months ago. and sent it via courier. The pole didn't arrive and was sent back to the parcel broker by UPS the carrier. Neither UPS or the parcel broker are accepting responsibility for the damage shown in these pictures, claiming that it was a fragile item and wasn't packaged according to their guidelines, ie boxed. The pole was sent fully collapsed with some packing to protect the clamps.
I can't imagine how they managed to damage it like that with normal handling. Grateful for some opinions please esp from Brodex owners
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1414938088_photo 1.JPG)
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1414938135_photo 2.JPG)
Title: Re: Pole damaged in post
Post by: Richy L on November 02, 2014, 02:30:33 pm
Was the brush head covered and protected as well? or was it just packaged as shown in the photos?
Title: Re: Pole damaged in post
Post by: Clever Forum Name on November 02, 2014, 02:39:16 pm
Poorly packed.
Title: Re: Pole damaged in post
Post by: Avo on November 02, 2014, 02:51:53 pm
Poor packing I'm afraid there doesn't appear to be any protection for the pole or the brush head apart from packing tape. 
Title: Re: Pole damaged in post
Post by: Spruce on November 02, 2014, 03:02:41 pm
It wasn't packaged properly so got damaged.

But why did they accept it for transportation in the first place? Surely their acceptance of the parcel as it was means they should take the responsibility for it in their care.

Is there some small print in their acceptance terms somewhere?
Title: Re: Pole damaged in post
Post by: johnny bravo on November 02, 2014, 03:04:30 pm
when sending poles,    go to a carpet shop and ask for a empty cardboard roll,     they are great for this purpose.
Title: Re: Pole damaged in post
Post by: Clever Forum Name on November 02, 2014, 03:10:10 pm
It wasn't packaged properly so got damaged.

But why did they accept it for transportation in the first place? Surely their acceptance of the parcel as it was means they should take the responsibility for it in their care.

Is there some small print in their acceptance terms somewhere?

Depends if it was sent online. When you click "terms and conditions accepted" In those terms describes adequate packing.
Title: Re: Pole damaged in post
Post by: Avo on November 02, 2014, 03:19:28 pm
It wasn't packaged properly so got damaged.

But why did they accept it for transportation in the first place? Surely their acceptance of the parcel as it was means they should take the responsibility for it in their care.

Is there some small print in their acceptance terms somewhere?
very true indeed they shouldn't of accepted it
Title: Re: Pole damaged in post
Post by: Dave Willis on November 02, 2014, 03:54:42 pm
With a Brodex pole normally the truck comes off worse.
Title: Re: Pole damaged in post
Post by: Ian101 on November 02, 2014, 04:10:31 pm
With a Brodex pole normally the truck comes off worse.

 ;D
Title: Re: Pole damaged in post
Post by: Ian101 on November 02, 2014, 04:14:37 pm
stating the bleeding obvious ... but u should have removed brush
Title: Re: Pole damaged in post
Post by: Spruce on November 02, 2014, 04:27:52 pm
stating the bleeding obvious ... but u should have removed brush

Tough brush  ;D
Title: Re: Pole damaged in post
Post by: Mike #1 on November 02, 2014, 04:51:31 pm
Badly packaged should have been in tubing with brush disconnected
Title: Re: Pole damaged in post
Post by: 8weekly on November 02, 2014, 04:53:05 pm
Do also be aware that when you use one of these brokers, you are on your own. The broker wouldn't refund you and will pass the buck to the carrier and you can't claim against the carrier because you have no contract with them. This is the choice you make.
Title: Re: Pole damaged in post
Post by: Don Kee on November 02, 2014, 04:53:50 pm
I thought these brodex poles were meant to be bullit proof..?

Cant be the best for knocking it about while working if a delivery guy can break it by throwing it about...
Title: Re: Pole damaged in post
Post by: Clever Forum Name on November 02, 2014, 05:00:27 pm
I think the courier was an ex windy and he didn't want anyone else to have to suffer.
Title: Re: Pole damaged in post
Post by: Spruce on November 02, 2014, 05:09:23 pm
I think the courier was an ex windy and he didn't want anyone else to have to suffer.

 ;D
Title: Re: Pole damaged in post
Post by: ben M on November 02, 2014, 05:39:13 pm
I think the courier was an ex windy and he didn't want anyone else to have to suffer.
;D ;D
Title: Re: Pole damaged in post
Post by: duncan h on November 02, 2014, 06:35:38 pm
Come on guys. If he had packed it like Gardiner do in a box, It would have snapped. Something crushed it. Curriers are getting worse
Title: Re: Pole damaged in post
Post by: paulswindows on November 02, 2014, 07:04:34 pm
The brush head was packed too, but my point is would anyone describe a Brodex as "fragile"? Its not bone china. You may describe throwing it in the back of the delivery truck as "normal handling" but would doing that alone be enough to sustain that kind of damage?
Title: Re: Pole damaged in post
Post by: CleanClear on November 02, 2014, 08:16:39 pm
The brush head was packed too, but my point is would anyone describe a Brodex as "fragile"? Its not bone china. You may describe throwing it in the back of the delivery truck as "normal handling" but would doing that alone be enough to sustain that kind of damage?

I don't think rough handling is responsible for that. You'd have to make a concerted effort to break a pole like that. Thats my opinion anyway.
Title: Re: Pole damaged in post
Post by: 8weekly on November 02, 2014, 08:18:57 pm
The brush head was packed too, but my point is would anyone describe a Brodex as "fragile"? Its not bone china. You may describe throwing it in the back of the delivery truck as "normal handling" but would doing that alone be enough to sustain that kind of damage?

I don't think rough handling is responsible for that. You'd have to make a concerted effort to break a pole like that. Thats my opinion anyway.
It doesn't matter. You didn't put it in a box and they therefore aren't liable.
Title: Re: Pole damaged in post
Post by: Avo on November 02, 2014, 08:21:00 pm
For all anyone's no they might of been cleaning the vans with it.

So they break it and tell you to take a hike.

I would of gone mental ...
Title: Re: Pole damaged in post
Post by: CleanClear on November 02, 2014, 08:24:49 pm
The brush head was packed too, but my point is would anyone describe a Brodex as "fragile"? Its not bone china. You may describe throwing it in the back of the delivery truck as "normal handling" but would doing that alone be enough to sustain that kind of damage?

I don't think rough handling is responsible for that. You'd have to make a concerted effort to break a pole like that. Thats my opinion anyway.
It doesn't matter. You didn't put it in a box and they therefore aren't liable.

I'm not suggesting anyone is liable, not that i think he asked ? I was just suggesting i don't think it was casually broken.
Title: Re: Pole damaged in post
Post by: andyM on November 02, 2014, 08:29:12 pm
For all anyone knows they might of been D-Y-K-E Jumping with it.

So the fat Dutchman breaks it and they tell you to take a hike.

I would of gone mental ...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWv_KbZjWTU
Title: Re: Pole damaged in post
Post by: Avo on November 02, 2014, 08:46:12 pm
For all anyone knows they might of been D-Y-K-E Jumping with it.

So the fat Dutchman breaks it and they tell you to take a hike.

I would of gone mental ...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWv_KbZjWTU
;D
Title: Re: Pole damaged in post
Post by: Avo on November 02, 2014, 08:49:07 pm
I think I saw a video brodex did when they ran over the pole with a Porsche and it didn't break . 😄

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YycUHaVcvFs
Title: Re: Pole damaged in post
Post by: rosskesava on November 02, 2014, 09:11:16 pm
Training to use a Brodex pole.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb0FU8rSisU