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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: jackcold on October 25, 2014, 09:47:45 pm

Title: What should a 2 man setup be earning?
Post by: jackcold on October 25, 2014, 09:47:45 pm
£300 a week or £500 a week
Title: Re: What should a 2 man setup be earning?
Post by: ben M on October 25, 2014, 09:51:00 pm
you mean per day??????
Title: Re: What should a 2 man setup be earning?
Post by: Smudger on October 25, 2014, 10:11:35 pm
Ditto

Ahh, perhaps he means wages ?

Darran
Title: Re: What should a 2 man setup be earning?
Post by: SeanK on October 25, 2014, 11:48:13 pm
£5000 per week below this and you would be better off working in Mc Donalds.
Title: Re: What should a 2 man setup be earning?
Post by: ben M on October 25, 2014, 11:50:58 pm
£5000 per week below this and you would be better off working in Mc Donalds.
£5000 per week????? stop eating big mac mate lol
Title: Re: What should a 2 man setup be earning?
Post by: SeanK on October 26, 2014, 12:02:15 am
£5000 per week below this and you would be better off working in Mc Donalds.
£5000 per week????? stop eating big mac mate lol

One thousand pounds a day between two men, Mick Kent can do £600 in 4 hours on his own and he has realised
that most of his work is under priced.
Be positive think positive and it will happen. I remember a guy telling me that I couldn't get £100 for a two bed
town house.
After beating the old biddy half to death she gladly paid it.
Title: Re: What should a 2 man setup be earning?
Post by: rosskesava on October 26, 2014, 01:38:10 am
50 front only town houses at £10 a throw and all in the same street each day?

Work it out for yourself.

Some people are just so lazy.

Title: Re: What should a 2 man setup be earning?
Post by: JSMC on October 26, 2014, 07:27:12 am
All depends on the area n prices. Some of the stuff i read on here about earnings is pie in the sky.
Title: Re: What should a 2 man setup be earning?
Post by: Jonny 87 on October 26, 2014, 07:33:56 am
A 2 man set up realistically should be doing £300 a day.

That's what id want if I was employing two guys, that means after wages and costs your still left with a nice amount.

I am up "norf" though, so prices seem to be a lot less than in other areas.
Title: Re: What should a 2 man setup be earning?
Post by: Mick Kent on October 26, 2014, 08:19:49 am
£5000 per week below this and you would be better off working in Mc Donalds.
£5000 per week????? stop eating big mac mate lol

One thousand pounds a day between two men, Mick Kent can do £600 in 4 hours on his own and he has realised
that most of his work is under priced.
Be positive think positive and it will happen. I remember a guy telling me that I couldn't get £100 for a two bed
town house.
After beating the old biddy half to death she gladly paid it.

Mate honestly, you are obsessed with me!
Apart from the thread where i took the p saying £600/650 a day where have i ever said that??
I clean 30 fronts over a 5/6 hour day which i find quite easy which would equivelent to 15 full houses which most established guys do as a minimum for a day. If your to thick to work out how easy that is instead of making me out to be an idiot or a lier then i pitty you as you cant be the full ticket! id hate to see how in bad condition your business is in for you to keep attacking me?.!
Title: Re: What should a 2 man setup be earning?
Post by: Smudger on October 26, 2014, 09:31:30 am
A 2 man set up realistically should be doing £300 a day.

That's what id want if I was employing two guys, that means after wages and costs your still left with a nice amount.

I am up "norf" though, so prices seem to be a lot less than in other areas.

That's very low...
Title: Re: What should a 2 man setup be earning?
Post by: Mr B shine on October 26, 2014, 09:35:03 am
Is it WFP or trad? what part of the country? how long has the business been going? how compact is the work? how many hours a day do they want to work? etc etc etc...
Title: Re: What should a 2 man setup be earning?
Post by: Sean Dyer on October 26, 2014, 10:30:29 am
If you cant answer that question you probably dont have the work or are at that point,

Its different for everyone , but surely the answer is enough to pay expenses , wages, tax vat? and make a profit , how much profit depends on you at the circumstances of the area and business.
Its a headache having staff and running it all so it wants to be worthwhile for the hours you put in

I reckon the £300 quoted is the bare minimum for two guys and a vehicle .

Probably gonna want to get another £50 - £100 a day to start seeing a reasonable profit

But it all depends if you are paying two lads "self employed " £50 a day

Or employing properly paying , and paying VAT etc
Title: Re: What should a 2 man setup be earning?
Post by: Ian101 on October 26, 2014, 01:52:12 pm
Id be working on 65% of what a single operator can earn so £200 for 1 man becomes £330 for 2 guys ....  £250 becomes £412.

when or if im ever in a position to do this I still think I would go 1 man 1 van so 2 x £200 is £400 which is £70 more than 2 men 1 van or on 20 day month £1400 more .... which will more than cover extra van running costs

working on low figures compared to some on here but you get the idea  :)
Title: Re: What should a 2 man setup be earning?
Post by: Tom-01 on October 26, 2014, 02:05:53 pm
Personally speaking for it to be worthwhile I'd want two guys working for me doing min £550 per day.
Title: Re: What should a 2 man setup be earning?
Post by: Smudger on October 26, 2014, 02:12:51 pm
Id be working on 65% of what a single operator can earn so £200 for 1 man becomes £330 for 2 guys ....  £250 becomes £412.

when or if im ever in a position to do this I still think I would go 1 man 1 van so 2 x £200 is £400 which is £70 more than 2 men 1 van or on 20 day month £1400 more .... which will more than cover extra van running costs

working on low figures compared to some on here but you get the idea  :)

Very well posted Ian

Darran
Title: Re: What should a 2 man setup be earning?
Post by: Window Lickers on October 26, 2014, 02:25:42 pm
Id be working on 65% of what a single operator can earn so £200 for 1 man becomes £330 for 2 guys ....  £250 becomes £412.

when or if im ever in a position to do this I still think I would go 1 man 1 van so 2 x £200 is £400 which is £70 more than 2 men 1 van or on 20 day month £1400 more .... which will more than cover extra van running costs

working on low figures compared to some on here but you get the idea  :)

In my experience thats not far off the mark.

Although the extra expenses involved (vehicle, equipment, water etc) are not the only things that needs to be considered as to whether its worthwhile or not. There can be a lot of headache employing, its not just financial cost that you incur.
Title: Re: What should a 2 man setup be earning?
Post by: SeanK on October 26, 2014, 03:46:56 pm
£5000 per week below this and you would be better off working in Mc Donalds.
£5000 per week????? stop eating big mac mate lol

One thousand pounds a day between two men, Mick Kent can do £600 in 4 hours on his own and he has realised
that most of his work is under priced.
Be positive think positive and it will happen. I remember a guy telling me that I couldn't get £100 for a two bed
town house.
After beating the old biddy half to death she gladly paid it.

Mate honestly, you are obsessed with me!
Apart from the thread where i took the p saying £600/650 a day where have i ever said that??
I clean 30 fronts over a 5/6 hour day which i find quite easy which would equivelent to 15 full houses which most established guys do as a minimum for a day. If your to thick to work out how easy that is instead of making me out to be an idiot or a lier then i pitty you as you cant be the full ticket! id hate to see how in bad condition your business is in for you to keep attacking me?.!

Mick you did say it, 60 £10 fronts or 24 £10 fronts in under an hour, OK you did state that these where your best days earnings and
you didn't achieve this daily.
But fair enough it does look as if I'm attacking you personally so I wont bring it up again.
Title: Re: What should a 2 man setup be earning?
Post by: Smudger on October 26, 2014, 03:59:16 pm
Mick -

You have posted you do 6 £10 fronts in 20 mins .....

The rest is left to Sean's imagination...

Darran
Title: Re: What should a 2 man setup be earning?
Post by: 8weekly on October 26, 2014, 04:45:21 pm
Mick -

You have posted you do 6 £10 fronts in 20 mins .....

The rest is left to Sean's imagination...

Darran
But that could only be 18 windows and 6 doors. On modern semis/terraced that wouldn't be difficult.
Title: Re: What should a 2 man setup be earning?
Post by: SeanK on October 26, 2014, 04:54:17 pm
Mick -

You have posted you do 6 £10 fronts in 20 mins .....

The rest is left to Sean's imagination...

Darran

24 fronts in under an hour and 60 fronts in a day, its there to read Darren.
Title: Re: What should a 2 man setup be earning?
Post by: David Kent @ KentKleen on October 26, 2014, 06:27:26 pm
Why do people get hung up on figures, amounts, how many an hour or other peoples earnings?
WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT.
We work at different speeds, different houses/areas/towns, we all clean differently and to different standards so you will never be able to get a straight answer to any earnings or how many an hour type of question.
WHAT MATTERS IS, is that you are earning enough for your own personal circumstances.

Not having a go here.
Just my opinion.
Title: Re: What should a 2 man setup be earning?
Post by: C o z y on October 26, 2014, 06:53:25 pm

WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT.



I'm not  :(
Title: Re: What should a 2 man setup be earning?
Post by: David Kent @ KentKleen on October 26, 2014, 06:55:39 pm
lol you are one of a kind!!
Title: Re: What should a 2 man setup be earning?
Post by: Deangsi on October 26, 2014, 07:19:35 pm
Why do people get hung up on figures, amounts, how many an hour or other peoples earnings?
WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT.
We work at different speeds, different houses/areas/towns, we all clean differently and to different standards so you will never be able to get a straight answer to any earnings or how many an hour type of question.
WHAT MATTERS IS, is that you are earning enough for your own personal circumstances.

Not having a go here.
Just my opinion.

I agree with this post so many people on hear bitching like a bunch on elderly women with nothing to do lol
Also everyone seems to insult people behind a computor would probley be nice as pie in person.

Title: Re: What should a 2 man setup be earning?
Post by: Mick Kent on October 26, 2014, 10:32:41 pm
Mick -

You have posted you do 6 £10 fronts in 20 mins .....

The rest is left to Sean's imagination...

Darran
Yes of course i can if on a run with 6 from same spot, or sometimes maybe if 3 on 1 road and 3 on another if no customers come out to pay or have a chat!.i aim for £60 ph glass time which i do always hit! Stop trying to be a clever dick making me out a lier!! we all know driving time/chatting/food breaks slow things down. If you actualy try what i do instead of picking holes with seank making pointless jealous remarks then maybe you will see that its quite simple to do and verey profitable.
Title: Re: What should a 2 man setup be earning?
Post by: Smudger on October 27, 2014, 12:51:43 am
Mick - as you may have noticed I don't plaster what I expect or get per hour from one man, two men, we have our rate and that's our biz, I have for the most part no interest in what you get p/h at all, I'm just curious about what what appears to be in consistant figures, if you aim and get £60 an hour then that's a great hourly rate.
I'm always looking to improve the biz, and when I see something that looks to be an improvement I like to find out more info, likewise I, where poss try to pass on factual and accurate info to others,

but your last post has made things much clearer 

Thx
Darran
Title: Re: What should a 2 man setup be earning?
Post by: Ian101 on October 27, 2014, 06:19:11 am
Why do people get hung up on figures, amounts, how many an hour or other peoples earnings?
WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT.
We work at different speeds, different houses/areas/towns, we all clean differently and to different standards so you will never be able to get a straight answer to any earnings or how many an hour type of question.
WHAT MATTERS IS, is that you are earning enough for your own personal circumstances.

Not having a go here.
Just my opinion.


+1 to that
Title: Re: What should a 2 man setup be earning?
Post by: Ian101 on October 27, 2014, 06:20:13 am
Id be working on 65% of what a single operator can earn so £200 for 1 man becomes £330 for 2 guys ....  £250 becomes £412.

when or if im ever in a position to do this I still think I would go 1 man 1 van so 2 x £200 is £400 which is £70 more than 2 men 1 van or on 20 day month £1400 more .... which will more than cover extra van running costs

working on low figures compared to some on here but you get the idea  :)

Very well posted Ian

Darran

occasionally I do post sense  ;D   .............. or try to