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Title: This guttervac seems too cheap
Post by: trippyboy on October 23, 2014, 08:05:44 pm
Anyone bought one of these? Just thought it was too cheap for a 3600 watt
http://www.guttervacuumsystems.co.uk/3600w-vac-systems.html
Title: Re: This guttervac seems too cheap
Post by: mark blundell on November 04, 2014, 02:50:24 pm
Hi Trippyboy,

I would just like to introduce myself, I'm mark from Aquafed,  guttervacuumsystems is one of our sites, it is nice to know that your opinion of our products are cheep. too cheap perhaps I should raise my prices  :)

We do try to be one of the cheaper gutter vacuum suppliers without compromising on quality the 3600w vacuum we use is a good quality Italian machine made by soteco.

If you have any questions please feel free to give me a call

Regards Mark
07772397799
Title: Re: This guttervac seems too cheap
Post by: Norman & Sons Window & Gutter Cleaning on November 04, 2014, 04:25:52 pm
http://www.guttercleaningsystems.co.uk/3000watt.html

carbon poles, don't use alloy poles,
Title: Re: This guttervac seems too cheap
Post by: Bungle on November 04, 2014, 04:40:36 pm
Anyone bought one of these? Just thought it was too cheap for a 3600 watt
http://www.guttervacuumsystems.co.uk/3600w-vac-systems.html

Same sort of thing, but a lot cheaper http://www.guttercleaningsystems.co.uk/3000watt.html
Title: Re: This guttervac seems too cheap
Post by: Plankton on November 04, 2014, 07:30:56 pm
WTF £750 for a hoover, anything but cheap. Now at £445 I could be tempted if I was flush. But I'm not so it's the ladder for me and if it's unsafe I don't touch it. simples :)
£445 would get me a new roof ladder, harness, helmet, rope, carabiners etc
How much are folks charging per metre to justify paying for these.
Title: Re: This guttervac seems too cheap
Post by: ben M on November 04, 2014, 07:45:33 pm
WTF £750 for a hoover, anything but cheap. Now at £445 I could be tempted if I was flush. But I'm not so it's the ladder for me and if it's unsafe I don't touch it. simples :)
£445 would get me a new roof ladder, harness, helmet, rope, carabiners etc
How much are folks charging per metre to justify paying for these.
£3 a meter,£445 won't give you a new leg or worse, a new life!!!
Title: Re: This guttervac seems too cheap
Post by: C o z y on November 04, 2014, 07:59:23 pm
Don't know anything about 'em, but if you bought the poles and parts, then this??

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Wet-and-Dry-Vacuum-Cleaner-By-Klarstein-3000W-80L-Canister-Shop-Vac-/221590578227?pt=UK_Vacuum_Cleaners&hash=item3397d3e433

Is that the same?
Title: Re: This guttervac seems too cheap
Post by: Plankton on November 04, 2014, 08:29:41 pm
WTF £750 for a hoover, anything but cheap. Now at £445 I could be tempted if I was flush. But I'm not so it's the ladder for me and if it's unsafe I don't touch it. simples :)
£445 would get me a new roof ladder, harness, helmet, rope, carabiners etc
How much are folks charging per metre to justify paying for these.
£3 a meter,£445 won't give you a new leg or worse, a new life!!!
Same prices as myself but I have one area where practically every second house has overgrown gutters. Now these are overgrown for a reason, they just don't want to part with £50, that's £50 for the length of gutters but when they are so bad I probably won't touch them for that price as the down pipes will be clogged and need to be removed to clear them.
Would the 3000w vac clear the gutters when they are as bad.
Title: Re: This guttervac seems too cheap
Post by: johnny bravo on November 04, 2014, 09:52:04 pm
YES,     they also lift the long sods out,   pick off then back up,     alloys do ache especially over conservatory  look around
Title: Re: This guttervac seems too cheap
Post by: johnny bravo on November 04, 2014, 09:54:08 pm
you may pay £700+ do 3 jobs then stuck in shed ,  you have to sell your service,  canvass to see how many you can pick up,     this will justify buying one.  check ebay out
Title: Re: This guttervac seems too cheap
Post by: Plankton on November 04, 2014, 10:09:55 pm
I've been going through a reducing work load faze and have now freed up space. So selling my service is something I will need to be doing from next week. How much of an ache are these alloy poles, are they a waste of £445
Title: Re: This guttervac seems too cheap
Post by: Danny F on November 04, 2014, 11:19:32 pm
WTF £750 for a hoover, anything but cheap. Now at £445 I could be tempted if I was flush. But I'm not so it's the ladder for me and if it's unsafe I don't touch it. simples :)
£445 would get me a new roof ladder, harness, helmet, rope, carabiners etc
How much are folks charging per metre to justify paying for these.
£3 a meter,£445 won't give you a new leg or worse, a new life!!!
Same prices as myself but I have one area where practically every second house has overgrown gutters. Now these are overgrown for a reason, they just don't want to part with £50, that's £50 for the length of gutters but when they are so bad I probably won't touch them for that price as the down pipes will be clogged and need to be removed to clear them.
Would the 3000w vac clear the gutters when they are as bad.

Down pipes need to be removed to clear them? Why make it hard when all you need to do is run water down it with a garden hose if really blocked ?
Title: Re: This guttervac seems too cheap
Post by: Bungle on November 05, 2014, 05:57:12 pm
I've been going through a reducing work load faze and have now freed up space. So selling my service is something I will need to be doing from next week. How much of an ache are these alloy poles, are they a waste of £445

Put it this way, you wouldn't want to use them day in day out. They also get very very cold in the winter.
Title: Re: This guttervac seems too cheap
Post by: koop on November 05, 2014, 08:03:39 pm
I used this one,  no way am i paying £700 odd for a hoover

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nilfisk-DIY-30t-Multi-Vacuum/dp/B00CHKNIJ6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1415217749&sr=8-1&keywords=nilfisk+wet+and+dry+hoover+30
Title: Re: This guttervac seems too cheap
Post by: Bungle on November 05, 2014, 08:08:32 pm
I used this one,  no way am i paying £700 odd for a hoover

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nilfisk-DIY-30t-Multi-Vacuum/dp/B00CHKNIJ6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1415217749&sr=8-1&keywords=nilfisk+wet+and+dry+hoover+30


Is that powerful enough to suck sods of grass out?
Title: Re: This guttervac seems too cheap
Post by: koop on November 05, 2014, 08:56:33 pm
I hope so,  I have to do it next week on 2 jobs.  Does anyone else know if the nilfisk 30 is powerful enough.
Title: Re: This guttervac seems too cheap
Post by: DeLuce on November 05, 2014, 11:16:52 pm
I used this one,  no way am i paying £700 odd for a hoover

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nilfisk-DIY-30t-Multi-Vacuum/dp/B00CHKNIJ6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1415217749&sr=8-1&keywords=nilfisk+wet+and+dry+hoover+30


Is that powerful enough to suck sods of grass out?

Yes it is. I've got one, cost me £114 off ebay and it's been great. I just got it to get me up and running with the carbon poles from Grippamax but it's still going strong!!
Title: Re: This guttervac seems too cheap
Post by: Plankton on November 06, 2014, 03:18:36 pm
Do you power them from the customers house or use a generator and are they covered with something when its raining.
Title: Re: This guttervac seems too cheap
Post by: Dave Willis on November 06, 2014, 04:37:17 pm
Nilfisk won't suck sods out very well - not like a 3600w vac does. Also has a pretty poor inlet as standard too.
Title: Re: This guttervac seems too cheap
Post by: DeLuce on November 06, 2014, 05:52:37 pm
Nilfisk won't suck sods out very well - not like a 3600w vac does. Also has a pretty poor inlet as standard too.

I haven't done too badly with it really Dave, sacked out a two metre long clod of grass today in two parts  :DI know it won't be as powerful as the one you've got but it's earning me a good score at the moment, enough to put away and then think of buying a better one perhaps.
Title: Re: This guttervac seems too cheap
Post by: Dave Willis on November 06, 2014, 05:57:08 pm
I've got both. 3600w is just too big and heavy to cart about all day. Nilfisk does the job ok'ish but won't lift a broken tile. Idealy need a 3600 head on a Nilfisk body.
Title: Re: This guttervac seems too cheap
Post by: C o z y on November 06, 2014, 06:09:46 pm
Nilfisk won't suck sods out very well - not like a 3600w vac does. Also has a pretty poor inlet as standard too.

I haven't done too badly with it really Dave, sacked out a two metre long clod of grass today in two parts  :DI know it won't be as powerful as the one you've got but it's earning me a good score at the moment, enough to put away and then think of buying a better one perhaps.

Good attitude mate
Title: Re: This guttervac seems too cheap
Post by: cleaning4usussex on November 06, 2014, 06:17:25 pm
Omnipole gutter vac 4200 watts sucks out everything!
Jamie
Title: Re: This guttervac seems too cheap
Post by: Plankton on November 06, 2014, 08:44:39 pm
WTF £750 for a hoover, anything but cheap. Now at £445 I could be tempted if I was flush. But I'm not so it's the ladder for me and if it's unsafe I don't touch it. simples :)
£445 would get me a new roof ladder, harness, helmet, rope, carabiners etc
How much are folks charging per metre to justify paying for these.
£3 a meter,£445 won't give you a new leg or worse, a new life!!!
Same prices as myself but I have one area where practically every second house has overgrown gutters. Now these are overgrown for a reason, they just don't want to part with £50, that's £50 for the length of gutters but when they are so bad I probably won't touch them for that price as the down pipes will be clogged and need to be removed to clear them.
Would the 3000w vac clear the gutters when they are as bad.

Down pipes need to be removed to clear them? Why make it hard when all you need to do is run water down it with a garden hose if really blocked ?
I'll rephrase that. The bend below the running outlet that attaches to the down pipe if blocked may need to removed. Forcing it downwards will only lead to another problem and a bit cowboy ish!
Title: Re: This guttervac seems too cheap
Post by: CleanClear on November 06, 2014, 11:47:14 pm
Nilfisk won't suck sods out very well - not like a 3600w vac does. Also has a pretty poor inlet as standard too.

Dave is your 3600w the Kiam one ?
Title: Re: This guttervac seems too cheap
Post by: Dave Willis on November 07, 2014, 07:16:16 am
Can't remember what it is. I had an ISSA one and have the Eastern Trading one both similar - three motors. I think one is 3200w and the other was 3600w. Both had crappy trolleys and are too big to keep in the van.

Local guy to me has a skyvac I think (and a massive van) -has a much better trolley on it, might be a big Nilfisk and has the bigger inlet fitted.