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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Brendan (chem2clean) on October 22, 2014, 10:38:14 pm

Title: cx 15
Post by: Brendan (chem2clean) on October 22, 2014, 10:38:14 pm
Has anyone seen cx 15 on tm forums.Seems like a great tool,no lecky cables which is a bonus.
https://www.truckmountforums.com/threads/video-how-to-clean-commercial-grade-carpet-cgd-clean-informer-magazine.66402/#post-868630
Title: Re: cx 15
Post by: Jamie Pearson on October 23, 2014, 09:38:00 am
I have ordered one. Will report back when I have it.
Title: Re: cx 15
Post by: Brendan (chem2clean) on October 23, 2014, 09:46:47 am
Your on the ball,interested to hear how you get on.
Title: Re: cx 15
Post by: dan paton on October 23, 2014, 11:11:01 am
The yanks seem to be raving about these zipper wands too at the moment http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vilQTyBbUDo
Title: Re: cx 15
Post by: Brendan (chem2clean) on October 23, 2014, 11:14:32 am
Yeah seen that,but i think they have been around ages.
Title: Re: cx 15
Post by: Mike Halliday on October 23, 2014, 12:18:38 pm
It's an adapted tile & grout tool nothing about it is special, my personal opinion without actually use it is that's it will overwet the carpet

Because unlike a normal wand or power tool the water is sprayed a good 12-16 inches in front of the vacuum pick-up so has a lot more time to penetrate downwards into the carpet
Title: Re: cx 15
Post by: Jamie Pearson on October 23, 2014, 05:47:44 pm
I think the same as you Mike but there is only one way to find out.

Buy it and try it.
Title: Re: cx 15
Post by: Mike Halliday on October 23, 2014, 05:55:39 pm
A clever man would buy it and find out for himself.... A wise man would allow someone else to buy it then ask them ;)

But the design is simple enough to realise the flaws in it without going to the expense of buying one, although it has the design to over-wet this doesn't mean when it's hooked up to a powerful vacuum source ( I would suggest a truckmount) it won't perform well.

And the flow & pressure required to spin the bar will make it in usable with a portable unless it has autofill
Title: Re: cx 15
Post by: Jamie Pearson on October 23, 2014, 07:00:29 pm
I agree.
Title: Re: cx 15
Post by: Neil Jones on October 23, 2014, 07:07:40 pm
Jamie could be even wiser and tell you it's carp when in reality it's the best tool in the world, or become the distributer.
Title: Re: cx 15
Post by: Jamie Pearson on October 23, 2014, 07:09:33 pm
There are already sources for Hydroforce machines.

I want to see for myself how it compares to my tried and tested LM methods when it comes to productivity.

Its not something we would actually use. Unless it is useful for high flow rug cleaning.
Title: Re: cx 15
Post by: Dave_Lee on October 24, 2014, 03:35:46 pm
I have ordered one. Will report back when I have it.

Have you ordered it direct from the States. I have found that doing that you end up paying more than the item in shipping costs and import duty. For example Ive just ordered a couple of valves from a supplier in the States, thieir total cost for the two is just over $19.., shipping and import duty comes to almost $21..
Dave.
Title: Re: cx 15
Post by: Jamie Pearson on October 28, 2014, 08:00:30 pm
We import quite a bit of stuff from the States Dave so know exactly what you mean.

It has arrived and here are the first pics. There was no machines/TMs in the building today to trial it out yet.

Will report back when I get the chance.

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Title: Re: cx 15
Post by: Brendan (chem2clean) on October 28, 2014, 08:06:36 pm
Great,looking forward to hear what you think.
Title: Re: cx 15
Post by: clive ware on October 28, 2014, 08:12:52 pm
Jamie,
you should have waited for Sheffield Shaun to buy one - bound to get it cheap in a couple of weeks!! ;D
Title: Re: cx 15
Post by: DB on October 28, 2014, 08:14:49 pm
Isn't it a bit like the Zinger of yesteryear (late seventies)?
Title: Re: cx 15
Post by: Jamie Pearson on October 28, 2014, 08:16:25 pm
Keith Robertson said the same thing D.
Title: Re: cx 15
Post by: DB on October 28, 2014, 08:18:34 pm
Tony Abbott still has one down in Essex (I don't think it was on his van when it got pinched) if its the same he really rated it with a truckmount
Title: Re: cx 15
Post by: Jamie Pearson on October 28, 2014, 08:44:06 pm
Did they not need an electrical supply?

They were before my time (just)
Title: Re: cx 15
Post by: DB on October 29, 2014, 07:37:55 pm
Its a long time ago now...but I have a feeling that the water flow turned the jets.

Tony used it last year on school carpeting and said he had forgot just how good it was
Title: Re: cx 15
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on October 29, 2014, 07:52:02 pm
Clive people don't believe me when I say I throw money around on new machines someone somewhere has been spreading false rumours about my thriftiness.

Shaun
Title: Re: cx 15
Post by: elliott cleaning on October 29, 2014, 08:20:03 pm
Jamie,
you should have waited for Sheffield Shaun to buy one - bound to get it cheap in a couple of weeks!! ;D

I can't recall Sheffield Shaun importing the first carpet wand 'glide' in the UK and selling it off cheap after a few weeks
Title: Re: cx 15
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on October 30, 2014, 07:19:24 am
It was a bone spatula I just thought what the hell!

Shaun
Title: Re: cx 15
Post by: Brendan (chem2clean) on November 05, 2014, 10:44:37 pm
Have you had a chance to use the cx yet?
Title: Re: cx 15
Post by: Jamie Pearson on November 06, 2014, 08:37:06 am
Yes we have. Going to run it again this weekend on site.
It is a very nicely put together bit of kit that will last just like the SX spinner tools.
Its definitely for use with a  truck mount.
That said we don't have a triple motor or 2x6.6" portable running 2" hose to test it with here but did try a PowrFlite PFX1350 which was okay at a short hose run of 25ft but with the speed it can extract the carpet you ideally want a longer hose run
The portable would need to have a auto fill/dump as it will use a fair amount of water at the recommended operating pressures.
The office we tried it in isn't the biggest only being about 30m2 and this is definitely a tool for larger areas.
Perfect for pub/nightclub/restaurant and open areas where extraction cleaning is desired.
Now that we have had a play with it its now for sale if anyone is interested.
Only cleaned 30m2
We don't have the type of work for it as we only really maintain carpets that are already clean and don't operate a truckmount.

We got one in to run the test and now its sitting looking pretty in the showroom.
If anyone is interested give me a call on 01334656787 or jamie@cleaningsystemsuk.com
Title: Re: cx 15
Post by: Paul Moss on November 06, 2014, 09:03:28 am
The sx 12 was poop e and this looks very similar.dont get fooled by the video.
Title: Re: cx 15
Post by: Jamie Pearson on November 06, 2014, 09:18:36 am
We still use our SX12 every week on hard floor jobs and its 12 years old.

The SX15 is better if you have a TM to take advantage of the 2" hose.

If anyone has used a drag wand in the past the CX15 is very similar in use. Effortless pull back with no dry passes needed.
Title: Re: cx 15
Post by: Jamie Pearson on November 06, 2014, 09:22:17 am
I wasnt convinced by the TMF video or the Hydraforce one either Paul.

Thats why I got one to try it out.

On big areas where you needed to extract it would sure be easier than push/pulling a wand thousands of times.
Title: Re: cx 15
Post by: Brendan (chem2clean) on December 04, 2014, 07:52:54 pm
Have you had a chance to use the cx15 on more jobs?
Title: Re: cx 15
Post by: mark_roberts on December 06, 2014, 12:10:43 am
I'd love to try the zipper wand. Reckon it's a back saver but overpriced by a mile.

Mark
Title: Re: cx 15
Post by: Brendan (chem2clean) on December 06, 2014, 12:38:46 am
me tooo,feck i want them all,cx15 zipper cimex Everest,trex..............Help
Title: Re: cx 15
Post by: Simon Gerrard on December 06, 2014, 08:25:17 pm
James,
You can send it down to me and we will put it through it's paces on some cruises ship we are doing before Christmas.

Simon
Title: Re: cx 15
Post by: David Ware on December 06, 2014, 08:45:29 pm
James,
You can send it down to me and we will put it through it's paces on some cruises ship we are doing before Christmas.

Simon

IMO I can't see how it will be anywhere as good as RX20.
David
Title: Re: cx 15
Post by: Simon Gerrard on December 06, 2014, 09:37:48 pm
Neither can I, to be honest.
Might be interesting to see what it can do tho.

Simon
Title: Re: cx 15
Post by: Mike Halliday on December 07, 2014, 05:14:42 pm
I've been reading about his tool on TMF I I think the problem is it's being oversold on how good it is by the manufacture.

They say it is quicker as it requires no dry passes.... but why? How is it different from a normal glided wand when in essence all it consist of is spinning jets in front of a 12-14inch glided vacuum slot, it has the same vacuum potential as a normal wand, no way can it offer single pass cleaning.

They also say if you move it to fast it leaves circular jet marks :-\

Title: Re: cx 15
Post by: Jamie Pearson on December 08, 2014, 02:32:42 pm
I would agree that it doesn't need dry passes.

Also that it could leave swirls if you move too fast.

I still think its a potentially useful tool.

Yes I can send it down to you Simon.

Let me sort that tomorrow when back in the office.