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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Paul Moss on October 22, 2014, 08:21:15 pm

Title: 6.6 vacs
Post by: Paul Moss on October 22, 2014, 08:21:15 pm
Has any body got their head around these vacs yet ?
Title: Re: 6.6 vacs
Post by: Len Gribble on October 22, 2014, 08:30:07 pm
NO still struggling with Billy’s small blower V lm or have I missed something? :o ;D
Title: Re: 6.6 vacs
Post by: Paul Moss on October 22, 2014, 08:37:43 pm
I've had another go on the storm, it's only been used a hand full of times. Think I may change for 5.7 as the 6.6 seem to be problematic.
Title: Re: 6.6 vacs
Post by: Carpet Dawg on October 22, 2014, 08:51:03 pm
I know it sounds obvious but do you ever leave the lid on the waste tank when not using the machine Paul?
Title: Re: 6.6 vacs
Post by: Jamie Pearson on October 22, 2014, 09:08:00 pm
Have spoken to a few people who have decided to stop offering machines with these motors due to reliability issues.
Title: Re: 6.6 vacs
Post by: feldon on October 22, 2014, 09:24:36 pm
Had my Storm with 6.6 motors nearly three years and still on original motors, i did buy a spare vac motor as i'm sure it will go sooner rather than later but still sucking good :). I always run for a few minutes after every job to make sure they are dry.
Title: Re: 6.6 vacs
Post by: stuart_clark on October 22, 2014, 11:06:14 pm
A mate of mine in Staffored bought a new Storm and it blow a motor after about two weeks, saying thatit was eight months ago and its been fine ever since, I was looking at the Airflex range last week at John Kellys place and must admit they are a quality bit of kit


Stuart
Title: Re: 6.6 vacs
Post by: Simon@arenaclean on October 23, 2014, 12:35:51 am
I've only had one issue and that was the early motors bearing housing was not strong enough, I had one fail and Cleansmart replaced it under warranty with the improved version. If you were inclined to switch to 5.7's just get an Airflex Pro vac mounting plate, easy job.
Title: Re: 6.6 vacs
Post by: john martin on October 23, 2014, 12:59:06 am

 Like iv probably said a dozen times ... if you are fitting 5.7s get these tapered electros ...
 and the gasket mentioned on the page .
 
 This version is a bit  more powerfull than the HD electro ashbys and others fit .

http://www.cobbcarpet.com/zen/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=86&products_id=5163
 
Title: Re: 6.6 vacs
Post by: feldon on October 23, 2014, 07:44:00 am
A mate of mine in Staffored bought a new Storm and it blow a motor after about two weeks, saying thatit was eight months ago and its been fine ever since, I was looking at the Airflex range last week at John Kellys place and must admit they are a quality bit of kit


Stuart

You sure you don't mean Cleansmart, didn't know John Kelly sold the Airflex
Title: Re: 6.6 vacs
Post by: stuart_clark on October 23, 2014, 08:05:50 am
Richard



John Kelly definately sells the Airflex machines, he was showing paul wallace and I them last monday when I was picking  up my new Cimex

Stuart
Title: Re: 6.6 vacs
Post by: Ian Gourlay on October 23, 2014, 12:57:01 pm
Just looked on johns Web Site could not see them but probaly selling them fast
Title: Re: 6.6 vacs
Post by: Paul Moss on October 23, 2014, 01:35:09 pm
John, have you got a link to a UK supplier and if I fitted one with the other 6.6 then would that be ok or would I be better off replacing with two 5.7
Title: Re: 6.6 vacs
Post by: stuart_clark on October 23, 2014, 01:48:44 pm
John Kelly sells the electro I think £98 plus vat
Title: Re: 6.6 vacs
Post by: john martin on October 23, 2014, 01:56:42 pm
John, have you got a link to a UK supplier and if I fitted one with the other 6.6 then would that be ok or would I be better off replacing with two 5.7

Personally i would fit two electors instead of mixing with the 6.6 as one of the strong points of the electro is the high lift , the 6.6 may cause a slight lift drop in parallel when paired with that three stage .

I will get the link for the UK supplier later , i have it somewhere .
You could order from larry cobb as the link i posted is the 230v version ...  phone them insted of ordering online . and ask them to ship usps to save costs . I bet i would work out cheaper or the same as getting them from a uk supplier .

You could just fit the HD electro that most of the uk suppliers sell ... its powerfull also but the version i posted has a rounded bottom like the 6.6 so shares that technology fan wise ... and its pretty much the same price . But u do need the extra thick gasket mentioned on the order page for the round bottom .
Title: Re: 6.6 vacs
Post by: john martin on October 23, 2014, 01:58:02 pm
John Kelly sells the electro I think £98 plus vat

There are a few versions though .. and they all look the same so u have to go by model number .
Title: Re: 6.6 vacs
Post by: Paul Moss on October 23, 2014, 03:27:48 pm
Cheers John, no specs on thus but I guess this is similar and suitable ?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121354636833?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT


And I'm guessing  that these are the copies that are no good

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Prochem-steampro-2000-motor-240V-AC-5-7-3-Stage-1400W-Tangential-Vacuum-Motor-/191377144377?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2c8ef77a39
Title: Re: 6.6 vacs
Post by: john martin on October 23, 2014, 06:07:24 pm
Cheers John, no specs on thus but I guess this is similar and suitable ?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121354636833?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT


And I'm guessing  that these are the copies that are no good

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Prochem-steampro-2000-motor-240V-AC-5-7-3-Stage-1400W-Tangential-Vacuum-Motor-/191377144377?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2c8ef77a39

No , both of those look like low powered Ameteks or similar .

If you have a storm you should probably maintain the theme of high performance so either give the 6.6 another go ... or go the 1600w electro route .

If so at least get two of the 6600-49 model  , Ashbys or cleansmart can supply these . They are rated at 560 airwatts .

The version from larry cobb is the 6600-47 conical bottom  , rated 585 airwatts .

You might be able to get the 6600-47 from some of the suppliers in the UK , electro gave  me this address to contact   j.brown@maltonplastics.com 
but i dont know anything about them , make sure u get the model version u need and dont get talked into buying what ever they have in stock if they dont have it .
Title: Re: 6.6 vacs
Post by: Jamie Pearson on October 23, 2014, 07:01:34 pm
Malton Plastics are the UK agents as far as I am aware. Thats what they claim anyway.

They offer 11 versions of the 5.7"
Title: Re: 6.6 vacs
Post by: Chris R on October 24, 2014, 06:02:27 pm
Had my storm for 2 years now and still on the original vacs.

Best portable I have owned in 25 years.
Title: Re: 6.6 vacs
Post by: stuart_clark on October 24, 2014, 06:07:34 pm
I notice on Altecs website they Electro motors but market them as low power or high power !
Title: Re: 6.6 vacs
Post by: john martin on October 24, 2014, 07:57:35 pm
I notice on Altecs website they Electro motors but market them as low power or high power !

the high power is the 6600-49  1600w or so
the low power is the 6600-117 1200w
Title: Re: 6.6 vacs
Post by: stuart_clark on October 24, 2014, 08:11:44 pm
Doh, think I would go for the high power, maybe have three in my Scorpy
Title: Re: 6.6 vacs
Post by: md_cleaning on October 25, 2014, 08:34:20 pm
Can you fit a 5.7 vac on a jag? As mine goes through its 6.6 vacs like one every four months and its costing me a fortune, I would sell machine but I lease it, so feel frustrated by the whole thing.
Title: Re: 6.6 vacs
Post by: Paul Moss on October 25, 2014, 08:55:31 pm
Md, do what I'm doing in my storm, replace both vacs with 😙 5.7
Title: Re: 6.6 vacs
Post by: md_cleaning on October 25, 2014, 09:07:11 pm
Cheers Paul
Title: Re: 6.6 vacs
Post by: john martin on October 25, 2014, 09:12:42 pm
Can you fit a 5.7 vac on a jag? As mine goes through its 6.6 vacs like one every four months and its costing me a fortune, I would sell machine but I lease it, so feel frustrated by the whole thing.

 In your case you would be attaching the internal hoses direct to the motor ...
 so if your fitting the 5.7s mentioned earlier you would choose the metal hose adapter ...   see it mentioned below the motor description , you would not need the gasket .

http://www.cobbcarpet.com/zen/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=86&products_id=5163

or Alltec or others may have them available for the 6600-49 version they sell
Title: Re: 6.6 vacs
Post by: stuart_clark on October 25, 2014, 10:32:31 pm
M D cleaning

you would be better converting it into a scorpion and use three 5.7 vacs
Title: Re: 6.6 vacs
Post by: john martin on October 25, 2014, 10:43:37 pm


 He'd really be better off pushing it off a cliff  ...
 but converting to a scorpion is no quick n easy undertaking ... repositioning
 the motors  , drilling the side connector hole , sourcing the various hoses check valve etc , adding another switch .
 I think you would be surprised what two of the High power electros can do and fitting them could be an hours work .
Title: Re: 6.6 vacs
Post by: stuart_clark on October 26, 2014, 12:00:12 am
Now now John, youknow you dont mean that ! Poor scorpy
Title: Re: 6.6 vacs
Post by: vacsimize on November 10, 2014, 12:34:14 pm
Confirming Malton Plastics (UK) Ltd are the UK & European agents for Electro Motor LLC. Supplying manufacturers and distributors throughout the UK & Europe for carpet cleaning machines, central vacuums and industrial vacuums.  j.brown@maltonplastics.com is the contact as mentioned above.