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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Richard iSparkle on October 15, 2014, 10:01:30 am
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hi,
any advice on equipment to clean high windows on internal properties.
i have staff who cannot use a squeegee and i don't want to use ladders..
thanks
R
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hi,
any advice on equipment to clean high windows on internal properties.
i have staff who cannot use a squeegee and i don't want to use ladders..
thanks
R
Employ proper window cleaners?
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hi,
any advice on equipment to clean high windows on internal properties.
i have staff who cannot use a squeegee and i don't want to use ladders..
thanks
R
Employ proper window cleaners?
+1
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hi,
any advice on equipment to clean high windows on internal properties.
i have staff who cannot use a squeegee and i don't want to use ladders..
thanks
R
;D
Employ proper window cleaners?
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please tell me i have read this wrong??? You have windowcleaners who cant use a squeegee?? That is ridiculous im guessing you cant clean trad either otherwise surely you would have shown them when you first employed them as only takes a few mins for the basics and with practice it comes as 2nd nature, i showed my daughter how to trad at 8 and now at 10 she details like a pro doing them.
I can understand the ladder part for which a scaffold tower would do the trick.
Employing Window cleaners who cant use a squeegee has realy made me laugh.
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its got to be a wind up
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Thinking you're a window cleaner because you can use one of these new-fangled squeegees is pathetic. I'm of the opinion that anyone who can't just rag a window clean isn't worth knowing.
And don't get me started on anyone employed as a van driver who can't also drive a horse and cart.
Vin
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So you would feel confident in 1 of your franchisees who cant squeegee to do an inside clean for 1 of your customers then would you vin?? Or would you instead simply show him how to do it so he can do the inside clean without asking an alternative way to clean the inside?
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hi,
any advice on equipment to clean high windows on internal properties.
i have staff who cannot use a squeegee and i don't want to use ladders..
thanks
R
Why can't you do it instead?
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hi,
any advice on equipment to clean high windows on internal properties.
i have staff who cannot use a squeegee and i don't want to use ladders..
thanks
R
We have a new internal job that requires the use of an applicator and squeegee on a row of windows 28' high and another row of windows at 35' high. Both of these rows of windows are on first story floors so don't come all the way to the ground. We have done them once.
Just because you can use a squeegee doesn't mean that you can use one at these heights working from the ground.
One operator (son) soaps up the window with an applicator on an Unger Teleplus pole. I use a 0 degree Unger swivel squeegee and can get a good result with horizontal strokes, tapping the squeegee on the lower soaped up part of the window to remove excess water from the blade. Son holds the applicator below the squeegee to catch excess soapy water.
Access is difficult but there are a couple of windows that can be squeegeed vertically in one movement. We then can 'polish' out any streeks with an Unger Flexiclamp and a towel or scrim. It is a slow process.
I am looking at other possibilities. I have purchased an Unger indoor cleaning pad kit (CK05G purchased from Wintecs) and hope that we can speed the process up by 'ragging' the windows. The Unger pad will screw onto an angle adaptor so I can fit that to my SLX22 and SLX40 with the brushes removed.
I am also looking at a wider s channel and rubber. The longest s channel that Unger do for that squeegee is 55cm. I'm currently using at 45 cm channel.
We found that Fairy liquid was better than Ecover that some are raving about, but will do some homework regarding other liquid solutions that may work better in this instance. Fairy has always worked well for us with the occassional internal cleans we do.
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So you would feel confident in 1 of your franchisees who cant squeegee to do an inside clean for 1 of your customers then would you vin??
Or would you instead simply show him how to do it so he can do the inside clean without asking an alternative way to clean the inside?
None of my guys ever use a squeegee. If a job truly required a squeegee for an interior clean (and I've not come across one yet) then we wouldn't do it.
Vin
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hi,
any advice on equipment to clean high windows on internal properties.
i have staff who cannot use a squeegee and i don't want to use ladders..
thanks
R
The answer is so blindingly obvious.
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speechless!!!Everyone should be competent with a squeegee, end of!!!
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Just another perspective. My dad was a window cleaner in the late 60s and right through the 70s. He did shops and houses. He always squeegeed shops, but used a chamois and scrim on houses. Outsides that is. I find that most windows are quicker with cloths. Only very large ones are quicker with a squeegee. Mind you, a wc that worked with squeegee and ladders might well be quicker with a squeegee.
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One of the easiest ways to clean most internals is squeegee and applicator.
The very basics of window cleaning is how to use a squeegee,window cleaners who can't are like
Painters that can't use a brush or brickies that can't use a trowel.
In answer to the question look at maybe the dragon fly or vikan easy shine kits they may help unger may also have a something.
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One of the easiest ways to clean most internals is squeegee and applicator.
The very basics of window cleaning is how to use a squeegee,window cleaners who can't are like
Painters that can't use a brush or brickies that can't use a trowel.
In answer to the question look at maybe the dragon fly or vikan easy shine kits they may help unger may also have a something.
That's daft. You can't put up bricks without a trowel but you could work full time as a wc and never use a squeegee. That said, I do think every wc should be able to use one. Where it gets grey is speed. If you worked ladders with a squeegee you will be quick. I never did and whilst I can use a squeegee and fan, I am slow. Average domestics inside are quicker with microfibres for me.
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Thinking you're a window cleaner because you can use one of these new-fangled squeegees is pathetic. I'm of the opinion that anyone who can't just rag a window clean isn't worth knowing.
And don't get me started on anyone employed as a van driver who can't also drive a horse and cart.
Vin
made me laugh thanks Vin :)
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hi,
any advice on equipment to clean high windows on internal properties.
i have staff who cannot use a squeegee and i don't want to use ladders..
thanks
R
Why can't you do it instead?
i don't climb ladders or know how to use a squeegee either! i don't really work on the van anymore anyhow.. office (or sofa) based nowadays 8)
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Sounds more like you have ran before you can walk! Are you serious you cant use a squeegee?.
You and vin should join forces! 2 half a cups will make a full one :-X
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Sounds more like you have ran before you can walk! Are you serious you cant use a squeegee?.
You and vin should join forces! 2 half a cups will make a full one :-X
i am quite proud of running before walking. why waste your time walking about ???
dead serious about never having used a squeegee. no need to use one.. just moving into commercial work and some of it is coming in with internal requests so that's why i'm considering it now.
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ok then guys.. on the subject of squeegees.. is this a good basic setup.. http://www.windowcleaningwarehouse.co.uk/unger-ergotec-50th-anniversary-kit.html
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Sounds more like you have ran before you can walk! Are you serious you cant use a squeegee?.
You and vin should join forces! 2 half a cups will make a full one :-X
In all honesty we don't use squeegees and applicator very often. Sometimes a month or more could go past without getting one out as we are wfp. We are in a position where we don't have to take on any work that requires a squeegee.
I guess its similar to a lot of traditional window cleaners refusing to clean gutters, soffits, fascias and conservatory roofs.
I have never ragged a window with a chamois but does that make me any worse off?
There is a plumber in Redcar that is self employed after just a 6 weeks plumbing course. He can't solder copper pipe - he says its not necessary as he uses plastic. I'm shocked TBH but will things be totally different in 10 or 20 years. Will copper pipe soldering have become a lost art because its not required/taught anymore.
Here is an article I found interesting.
http://financesonline.com/10-disappearing-jobs-that-wont-exist-in-10-years-professions-that-wont-guarantee-career-opportunities/
and here's a list of jobs that no longer exist.
http://www.wowthatscool.com/11-jobs-that-no-longer-exist/gandy-dancers
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Spruce no offence but this is window cleaning, i can clean with rags, squeegees wfp, afterall im a window cleaner. Im sure you know how to use a squeegee too.
If i couldnt use a squeegee then all my commercial jobs would end up finding someone else thinking i was some sort of cowboy.
Using rags was pre 70's lol applicator and squeegee is still the main method today followed by wfp. Anyway id be ashamed to say i run a business where my staff and i cant use the most basic of tool for the job.
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So you would feel confident in 1 of your franchisees who cant squeegee to do an inside clean for 1 of your customers then would you vin??
Or would you instead simply show him how to do it so he can do the inside clean without asking an alternative way to clean the inside?
None of my guys ever use a squeegee. If a job truly required a squeegee for an interior clean (and I've not come across one yet) then we wouldn't do it.
Vin
Can you use a squeegee, competently, for the purposes of cleaning windows, with either hand whilst up a ladder to the satisfaction of your customers and own standards?
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Where it gets grey is speed and quality of work.
FTFY
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One of the easiest ways to clean most internals is squeegee and applicator.
The very basics of window cleaning is how to use a squeegee,window cleaners who can't are like
Painters that can't use a brush or brickies that can't use a trowel.
In answer to the question look at maybe the dragon fly or vikan easy shine kits they may help unger may also have a something.
That's daft. You can't put up bricks without a trowel but you could work full time as a wc and never use a squeegee. That said, I do think every wc should be able to use one. Where it gets grey is speed. If you worked ladders with a squeegee you will be quick. I never did and whilst I can use a squeegee and fan, I am slow. Average domestics inside are quicker with microfibres for me.
In a way your right you can get by and make a living cleaning domestics only and with wfp.
But I'm commercial and internals are a regular part of the job there is no other easier way than squeegee and applicator.
I clean a large car show room were the glass along the front is about 15ft high and about 150ft in length with various internal partioning if you were to clean it with cloths you'd be there all week.
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Spruce no offence but this is window cleaning, i can clean with rags, squeegees wfp, afterall im a window cleaner. Im sure you know how to use a squeegee too.
If i couldnt use a squeegee then all my commercial jobs would end up finding someone else thinking i was some sort of cowboy.
Using rags was pre 70's lol applicator and squeegee is still the main method today followed by wfp. Anyway id be ashamed to say i run a business where my staff and i cant use the most basic of tool for the job.
You've made a commercial decision not to clean the backs of terraces. Similarly, we've made a commercial decision not to do work that requires a squeegee. We do our utmost never to take on work that requires us to do the insides. We earn less per hour than we do cleaning the outsides WFP, so we don't take it on if we can possibly avoid it. If it was high level internal as per the OP, we'd simply not quote.
We also don't do commercial, bar a couple where we do a house and the person has asked for their office to be cleaned.
However, despite this hideous gap in our offerings we still get people's windows clean to their satisfaction so I hope I am still allowed to call myself a "window cleaner".
Vin
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Wasnt sure if you'd missed this previous question ......
None of my guys ever use a squeegee. If a job truly required a squeegee for an interior clean (and I've not come across one yet) then we wouldn't do it.
Vin
Can you use a squeegee, competently, for the purposes of cleaning windows, with either hand whilst up a ladder to the satisfaction of your customers and own standards?
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Yes I can, more than competently..
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Spruce no offence but this is window cleaning, i can clean with rags, squeegees wfp, afterall im a window cleaner. Im sure you know how to use a squeegee too.
If i couldnt use a squeegee then all my commercial jobs would end up finding someone else thinking i was some sort of cowboy.
Using rags was pre 70's lol applicator and squeegee is still the main method today followed by wfp. Anyway id be ashamed to say i run a business where my staff and i cant use the most basic of tool for the job.
You've made a commercial decision not to clean the backs of terraces. Similarly, we've made a commercial decision not to do work that requires a squeegee. We do our utmost never to take on work that requires us to do the insides. We earn less per hour than we do cleaning the outsides WFP, so we don't take it on if we can possibly avoid it. If it was high level internal as per the OP, we'd simply not quote.
We also don't do commercial, bar a couple where we do a house and the person has asked for their office to be cleaned.
However, despite this hideous gap in our offerings we still get people's windows clean to their satisfaction so I hope I am still allowed to call myself a "window cleaner".
Vin
You can call yourself what you want.
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Is that a mug?
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No its half a cup.
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Water bomb/balloons.
Or get a window cleaner to do 'em for you.
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how many car drivers have a road atlas in their car compared to a Sat nav?
I too only do WFP jobs, i can use a squeegee, wagtail my favorite, but would never take a traditional job on
Why squeegee when you can Karcher vac!!:):)
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Yeah, and when the battery goes flat, you can wait a few hours while your custy re-charges it for ya Bob. ;D
Or, like I said, get a window cleaner to do 'em for ya ;)
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Mrs Smith calls some geezer about window cleaning. Asks, can you clean my windows, inside and out, I've got visitors coming, and want everything tip top please?
What do you tell her?
1 Yes, no problem, when do you need them done.
2 Yes, we can do the outsides, but you'll need to get a window cleaner to do insides.
3 Nahh, can't be bothered, I'm a big number on some forum, and I won't get out the bath for a wee for less than a monkey, so sorry missus, you'll have to call some minion to do crappy little jobs like yours. I'm far too busy lookin at myself in the mirror and spouting crap on CIU to bother learnin the basics of my trade. Anyway, I'm scared of heights above 5 feet, and have very little hand-eye co-ordination.
Choose any of the above. I promise to look later. ;)
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Mrs Smith calls some geezer about window cleaning. Asks, can you clean my windows, inside and out, I've got visitors coming, and want everything tip top please?
What do you tell her?
1 Yes, no problem, when do you need them done.
2 Yes, we can do the outsides, but you'll need to get a window cleaner to do insides.
3 Nahh, can't be bothered, I'm a big number on some forum, and I won't get out the bath for a wee for less than a monkey, so sorry missus, you'll have to call some minion to do crappy little jobs like yours. I'm far too busy lookin at myself in the mirror and spouting crap on CIU to bother learnin the basics of my trade. Anyway, I'm scared of heights above 5 feet, and have very little hand-eye co-ordination.
Choose any of the above. I promise to look later. ;)
Or are you looking for a regular window cleaner or do you just want it all clean for your visitors? The answer to that question determines whether I do them or not.
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If you can't use a squeegee then go on a bwca course and learn.
I don't give a t0ss what other people can or cannot do. I learnt to squeegee because I'm serious about my business and providing the best possible service I can.
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Mrs Smith calls some geezer about window cleaning. Asks, can you clean my windows, inside and out, I've got visitors coming, and want everything tip top please? It will be a regular clean after that.
What do you tell her?
1 Yes, no problem, when do you need them done.
2 Yes, we can do the outsides, but you'll need to get a window cleaner to do insides.
3 Nahh, can't be bothered, I'm a big number on some forum, and I won't get out the bath for a wee for less than a monkey, so sorry missus, you'll have to call some minion to do crappy little jobs like yours. I'm far too busy lookin at myself in the mirror and spouting crap on CIU to bother learnin the basics of my trade. Anyway, I'm scared of heights above 5 feet, and have very little hand-eye co-ordination.
Choose any of the above. I promise to look later. ;)
Or are you looking for a regular window cleaner or do you just want it all clean for your visitors? The answer to that question determines whether I do them or not.
There ya go.
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Mrs Smith calls some geezer about window cleaning. Asks, can you clean my windows, inside and out, I've got visitors coming, and want everything tip top please? It will be a regular clean after that.
What do you tell her?
1 Yes, no problem, when do you need them done.
2 Yes, we can do the outsides, but you'll need to get a window cleaner to do insides.
3 Nahh, can't be bothered, I'm a big number on some forum, and I won't get out the bath for a wee for less than a monkey, so sorry missus, you'll have to call some minion to do crappy little jobs like yours. I'm far too busy lookin at myself in the mirror and spouting crap on CIU to bother learnin the basics of my trade. Anyway, I'm scared of heights above 5 feet, and have very little hand-eye co-ordination.
Choose any of the above. I promise to look later. ;)
Or are you looking for a regular window cleaner or do you just want it all clean for your visitors? The answer to that question determines whether I do them or not.
There ya go.
I leave one offs for those short of work. Shall I give 'em your number next time? ;D
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Mrs Smith calls some geezer about window cleaning. Asks, can you clean my windows, inside and out, I've got visitors coming, and want everything tip top please?
What do you tell her?
1 Yes, no problem, when do you need them done.
2 Yes, we can do the outsides, but you'll need to get a window cleaner to do insides.
3 Nahh, can't be bothered, I'm a big number on some forum, and I won't get out the bath for a wee for less than a monkey, so sorry missus, you'll have to call some minion to do crappy little jobs like yours. I'm far too busy lookin at myself in the mirror and spouting crap on CIU to bother learnin the basics of my trade. Anyway, I'm scared of heights above 5 feet, and have very little hand-eye co-ordination.
Choose any of the above. I promise to look later. ;)
I'd tell her "no, as it's quite clearly a one-off. We're too busy servicing our regular customers, I'm afraid"
Vin
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Vin, read the dark type in the quote.
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Vin, read the dark type in the quote.
Well I would do them then.
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She can say what she likes, it's a one-off.
Anyway, pedantry apart, I don't do insides unless I have to.
Some people choose not to do, say, backs of terraces. Some people choose not to do gutter clearing. Some people choose not to clean frames. Some people don't clean bad payers. Some people don't persevere with rude customers. Some people don't drive far for work. Some people can't clean over conservatories. If the wrong type of customer for how you run your business wants your services, you say "no".
So, we all select our customers to fit how we run our businesses in some way or another, whether you choose to admit it or not is up to you.
Vin
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She can say what she likes, it's a one-off.
Anyway, pedantry apart, I don't do insides unless I have to.
Some people choose not to do, say, backs of terraces. Some people choose not to do gutter clearing. Some people choose not to clean frames. Some people don't clean bad payers. Some people don't persevere with rude customers. Some people don't drive far for work. Some people can't clean over conservatories. If the wrong type of customer for how you run your business wants your services, you say "no".
So, we all select our customers to fit how we run our businesses in some way or another, whether you choose to admit it or not is up to you.
Vin
And some people can't use the tools and can't clean insides, and can't provide a complete window cleaning service.
This trade can be done by monkeys, and even they could do insides.
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hi,
any advice on equipment to clean high windows on internal properties.
i have staff who cannot use a squeegee and i don't want to use ladders..
thanks
R
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She can say what she likes, it's a one-off.
Anyway, pedantry apart, I don't do insides unless I have to.
Some people choose not to do, say, backs of terraces. Some people choose not to do gutter clearing. Some people choose not to clean frames. Some people don't clean bad payers. Some people don't persevere with rude customers. Some people don't drive far for work. Some people can't clean over conservatories. If the wrong type of customer for how you run your business wants your services, you say "no".
So, we all select our customers to fit how we run our businesses in some way or another, whether you choose to admit it or not is up to you.
Vin
And some people can't use the tools and can't clean insides, and can't provide a complete window cleaning service.
This trade can be done by monkeys, and even they could do insides.
You proved it. ;D
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Yeah, great comeback mate. LOL pmsl hahahaha etc.
Imagine being in a trade that you can't provide a proper service when asked. hahaha etc.
I spent years driving all over Europe and North Africa. Never had a job or load, or any challenge that I wasn't able to handle.
Would feel really silly if I couldn't handle any work in bloody window cleaning. I mean, there isn't really much of any challenge in this game is there?
This is why I like to stay in the "loony" section of this forum, it's fun. On this section, I find myself thinking that window cleaning is getting too complicated for some. We're talking about working inside, with ladders. Basic stuff.
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Why are you so angry Cozy?
We all select subsets of work that we want to do. For a while I cleared gutters with a guttervac. It dropped my hourly rate, so I flogged the equipment, learned and moved on. Now I'm sorry to be a bore on the subject but hourly rate is all. The one thing a sole trader can't do is increase the number of hours in a year, so hourly rate defines how much you can earn.
Interior cleans drop my guys' hourly rates, so we choose not to do them. If you want to turn that into some kind of peeing-up-a-wall test of angry manliness, go ahead but you're making yourself furious over something that just doesn't matter.
Vin
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Here you go this kid should be able to show you how its done lads.
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Why are you so angry Cozy?
We all select subsets of work that we want to do. For a while I cleared gutters with a guttervac. It dropped my hourly rate, so I flogged the equipment, learned and moved on. Now I'm sorry to be a bore on the subject but hourly rate is all. The one thing a sole trader can't do is increase the number of hours in a year, so hourly rate defines how much you can earn.
Interior cleans drop my guys' hourly rates, so we choose not to do them. If you want to turn that into some kind of peeing-up-a-wall test of angry manliness, go ahead but you're making yourself furious over something that just doesn't matter.
Vin
I'm not angry Vin.
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I'm taking the urine out of pretend windies who avoid learning the basics of their trade. I know your situation. I understand your point. Why are you pulling this onto your set up?
Calm down mate.
If someone claims to be a windie, and has no skills, and a fear of the basics, like fanning, or working above 5 feet, or speaking to people, or has a dire fear of rejection, when some punter says "no thanks", then there's a clue in there somewhere.
HTH to clear this up.
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Why are you pulling this onto your set up?
I don't understand this sentence. The rest of it is lovely, though. And, to a large extent, I agree with it.
Vin
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I don't know, I was under the influence of my breakfast.
Your set up, meaning blokes who have come directly into window cleaning as franchisees. Probably had no practice fanning and working off ladders, so will have no basic skills except for those taught by you. Does that explain?
Anyway, I've got to go and earn a few beer coupons now, as I have a shop insides to do. Purely coincidence. ;)
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Nonsense, I don't think there is anybody alive who couldn't learn to use a squeegee, fanning is just a
method of speeding up the process.
So if a large amount of your work requires you to learn and practice fanning then you would be a fool not to
learn it.
If you do little or no traditional work then the basic skills will do.
The same goes when working from a ladder, if you decide that your not going use a ladder because of safety
reasons then there's not much point in learning how to work on one.
Plenty of window cleaners have no interest in cleaning interiors, most of the full time traditional guys near me
don't touch them.
I don't offer abseil or working from a cherry picker window cleaning does that mean I cant call myself a true
window cleaner and don't offer a proper service.
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Calm down. You're posting stuff I haven't said. This is why it's a waste of time going over the same old crap that's been posted on here for years. ::)roll
I don't give a shyte who I upset now, here's the point:
There are so called window cleaners on CIU, that spout about how long they've been going in this game and how much they earn etc. They give advice to any newbies, then moan about newbies. ::)roll
Then when they find a job too complicated, like cleaning inside windows, they come on here asking what method to use. THEN, some multi-millionaire tips up and tells 'em to try a Mrs Mopp window vac !!
This makes me laugh for a short time, then I get bored and sod off back to the loony department of CIU because that's where all the old Windies are on.
If anyone of these multi-millionaire windies on here need any help on how to fan, here's a little blonde bird to explain it to you. ::)roll
By the way, if you dribble, just lay an old towel or bed sheet under where your working.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af_0zV79zsk&list=FL9v7w-uFuwoI_ZYR66YAEbQ&index=8
HTH
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Calm down. You're posting stuff I haven't said. This is why it's a waste of time going over the same old crap that's been posted on here for years. ::)roll
I don't give a shyte who I upset now, here's the point:
There are so called window cleaners on CIU, that spout about how long they've been going in this game and how much they earn etc. They give advice to any newbies, then moan about newbies. ::)roll
Then when they find a job too complicated, like cleaning inside windows, they come on here asking what method to use. THEN, some multi-millionaire tips up and tells 'em to try a Mrs Mopp window vac !!
This makes me laugh for a short time, then I get bored and sod off back to the loony department of CIU because that's where all the old Windies are on.
If anyone of these multi-millionaire windies on here need any help on how to fan, here's a little blonde bird to explain it to you. ::)roll
By the way, if you dribble, just lay an old towel or bed sheet under where your working.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af_0zV79zsk&list=FL9v7w-uFuwoI_ZYR66YAEbQ&index=8
HTH
It's your anger that's strange.
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Stop stalking my posts, and I might calm down. I prefer women mate, go ask Bateman for a date or summat. HTH ;)
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By the way, I'M NOT ANGRY!!!!
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I have to say Cozy/gary999 and a few others are the only reason why i post on here and read. Such entertainment.
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Calm down. You're posting stuff I haven't said. This is why it's a waste of time going over the same old crap that's been posted on here for years. ::)roll
I don't give a shyte who I upset now, here's the point:
There are so called window cleaners on CIU, that spout about how long they've been going in this game and how much they earn etc. They give advice to any newbies, then moan about newbies. ::)roll
Then when they find a job too complicated, like cleaning inside windows, they come on here asking what method to use. THEN, some multi-millionaire tips up and tells 'em to try a Mrs Mopp window vac !!
This makes me laugh for a short time, then I get bored and sod off back to the loony department of CIU because that's where all the old Windies are on.
If anyone of these multi-millionaire windies on here need any help on how to fan, here's a little blonde bird to explain it to you. ::)roll
By the way, if you dribble, just lay an old towel or bed sheet under where your working.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af_0zV79zsk&list=FL9v7w-uFuwoI_ZYR66YAEbQ&index=8
HTH
lol
This is true.
And that is Cosy commentating and his missus doing the fanning. True.
She didnt have the angle quite right though on the second corner, she would have dropped a line there.
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Stop stalking my posts, and I might calm down. I prefer women mate, go ask Bateman for a date or summat. HTH ;)
And this isnt ;D
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can you trad with your eyes shut and still use both hands, ;D
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Trading (tradding?) patio doors with your eyes closed is a lot easier than you think.