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Title: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: trippyboy on October 14, 2014, 07:27:33 pm
Why?
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: Steve foster on October 14, 2014, 07:38:01 pm
Cos I dont need the money enough to get wet through.
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: Dave Willis on October 14, 2014, 07:39:09 pm
'Cos I get to stay in bed with my gorgeous wife, book my holidays, play with me bongos, drive my sports car to the bank and polish my Extreme pole for as long as I like.  :D

Might do a bit tomorrow though - wife's at work and my round is in tatters.
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: Smudger on October 14, 2014, 07:39:36 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: SeanK on October 14, 2014, 07:46:00 pm
How many months are there in the year when you don't get at least 16 dry days ?
I can make enough in 16 days a month to more than do me.
I don't mind working in showers but not in constant rain so I would ask why do it.
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: Johnny B on October 14, 2014, 07:47:01 pm
On domestics I work in light drizzle, but nothing heavier than that. I hate the idea of trying to clean windows where the rain is lashing against the glass (I have done it and I thought it was a waste of time and I felt as if I was defrauding my customers).

If I turned up in the rain, most of my domestic customers would send me away. Where I am these are not so easy to replace as they are in Britain, so I try to keep them happy.

I have some shops that I do weekly, and these get done regardless. Even so, I am not entirely comfortable doing them when the weather is really bad.

John
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: ChumBucket on October 14, 2014, 07:50:01 pm
I earn enough on dry days to more than make up for the wet days.

I would ask, why DO you work in the rain? The answer to that might be more telling! ;D
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: LWC on October 14, 2014, 07:51:12 pm
Honestly customers do not like it, i dont care what anyone says. How many comments do you get "is it worth it?"

Yes i know it makes no odds...but hey, customer is right and theyre the ones paying you.
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: Clever Forum Name on October 14, 2014, 07:53:57 pm
You are there to clean last months build up of dirt. The weather on the day is irrelevant.
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: paulben on October 14, 2014, 07:59:10 pm
I am like a cat don't like getting wet. Customers don't like it there is always something to do like paper work repairs etc , I am not a slave to the job that's why I am self employed so I can work when it suits me
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: rosskesava on October 14, 2014, 08:22:53 pm
I don't work in the rain simply because I choose not to.

Also, being lazy, I enjoy the lay in.
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: 8weekly on October 14, 2014, 08:27:19 pm
I took Monday off as I was looking for an excuse. I worked this morning but couldn't bring myself to go back out. Tomorrow I am working regardless of rhe weather. If a customer doesn't like it I will say "if they don't dry at the same standard, call me & I will reclean them".
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: David Kent @ KentKleen on October 14, 2014, 08:37:20 pm
We dont work in the rain, I know we could do a perfectly good job cleaning in the rain BUT some/most of my customers dont like it, they dont even like it if its heavy cloud.
DUMP AND REPLACE I HERE SOME SAY!

I put the reputation of our brand BEFORE making a quick buck on a wet day.
We all (my franchisees) earn more than enough working dry days with well priced jobs and a well planned round set up.
YES BUT YOU COULD BE EARNING MORE EACH YEAR AND FITTING MORE JOBS IN I HERE YOU SAY.

Strictly speaking YES. BUT and its a big BUT, I have found by not working in the rain and advertising this fact during round building has accelerated my business growth.

MOST (of my) CUSTOMERS PREFER GETTING THERE WINDOWS CLEANED ON A DRY DAY THAN WET. (this is based on my data collected during and after round building and general conversations with customers)

This is my opinion. Please continue to clean in the rain if you wish.



Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: dazmond on October 14, 2014, 08:44:56 pm
I earn enough on dry days to more than make up for the wet days.

I would ask, why DO you work in the rain? The answer to that might be more telling! ;D

i work in the rain because i dont like getting behind schedule.

also i like to get all my work completed so i have a few days "breathing space" at the end of the month although i wont this month due to add on jobs booked in. ;)
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: dazmond on October 14, 2014, 08:47:08 pm
We dont work in the rain, I know we could do a perfectly good job cleaning in the rain BUT some/most of my customers dont like it, they dont even like it if its heavy cloud.
DUMP AND REPLACE I HERE SOME SAY!

I put the reputation of our brand BEFORE making a quick buck on a wet day.
We all (my franchisees) earn more than enough working dry days with well priced jobs and a well planned round set up.
YES BUT YOU COULD BE EARNING MORE EACH YEAR AND FITTING MORE JOBS IN I HERE YOU SAY.

Strictly speaking YES. BUT and its a big BUT, I have found by not working in the rain and advertising this fact during round building has accelerated my business growth.

MOST (of my) CUSTOMERS PREFER GETTING THERE WINDOWS CLEANED ON A DRY DAY THAN WET. (this is based on my data collected during and after round building and general conversations with customers)

This is my opinion. Please continue to clean in the rain if you wish.





you obviously dont work in the manchester area!if you did you d only work 3 months a year with that attitude!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: David Kent @ KentKleen on October 14, 2014, 08:48:31 pm
Heading your way soon Daz  :)
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: Deangsi on October 14, 2014, 08:49:03 pm
bills keep comeing rain or shine i mite have the flue on a week of sunny days :(

in all honesty i work in mild rain and sit in van between heavy showers if it hammers it down all day i go home
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: Paul erithwc on October 14, 2014, 09:02:13 pm
Because i didn't have a good breathable 100% waterproof jacket  ;)

But i 've ordered one from engelbert strauss and it should arrive wednesday or thursday this week from Germany Neuenstein ;D ;D

Paul

Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: gary999 on October 14, 2014, 09:06:08 pm
If its dry when I go out and it starts raining I continue  working but if its
chucking it down before I go out I roll over fart,  slap the missus and tell her
to get to work while I have a lie in ;D
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: paul ette on October 14, 2014, 09:13:05 pm
I hate working in the rain, not because of getting wet but because I dread knocking the door for money and getting filthy looks , or people saying is it worth it etc, I text b4 and constantly get the not in this weather. And I'm totally with David on the point of having a good reputation because most don't like it done in the rain, others don't mind, others just feel sorry for you, others just havnt got the guts to say anything, but sometimes we just have to do it else it will throw us too far behind , then when it's dry and bright customers will be wondering where we are lol. Can't win either way
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: elite mike on October 14, 2014, 09:15:19 pm
If its dry when I go out and it starts raining I continue  working but if its
chucking it down before I go out I roll over fart,  slap the missus and tell her
to get to work while I have a lie in ;D

lmao  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: dazmond on October 14, 2014, 09:30:50 pm
I hate working in the rain, not because of getting wet but because I dread knocking the door for money and getting filthy looks , or people saying is it worth it etc, I text b4 and constantly get the not in this weather. And I'm totally with David on the point of having a good reputation because most don't like it done in the rain, others don't mind, others just feel sorry for you, others just havnt got the guts to say anything, but sometimes we just have to do it else it will throw us too far behind , then when it's dry and bright customers will be wondering where we are lol. Can't win either way

i very rarely get a "not today" or any comments whatsoever about working in the rain.ive been working in the rain for over 4 years now since i went wfp.

i have a reputation as a good,reliable cleaner and get new jobs from word of mouth and recommendation.

i never second guess customers.most dont mind.if they do they get missed until next month.only happens around 3-4 times a year!
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: C o z y on October 14, 2014, 09:54:26 pm
If the weather dictates when you work, one prolonged bad weather period will close you down for good. Do you control your income, or does the weather?
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: rosskesava on October 14, 2014, 09:58:50 pm
If its dry when I go out and it starts raining I continue  working but if its
chucking it down before I go out I roll over fart,  slap the missus and tell her
to get to work while I have a lie in ;D

You only fart the once?

Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: Mike #1 on October 15, 2014, 05:52:21 am
Because they scared off being sacked or moaned at off custys , I have worked in light to medium rain for over 6yrs now WFP without any complaints or losing a single custy .

I don't take the pee , if it's windy and the rain will be hitting the glass I won't bother going out , 8 out of 10 times the rain does not hit the windows on a rainy day so why sit at home not earning .
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: C o z y on October 15, 2014, 06:46:50 am
Because they scared off being sacked or moaned at off custys , I have worked in light to medium rain for over 6yrs now WFP without any complaints or losing a single custy .

I don't take the pee , if it's windy and the rain will be hitting the glass I won't bother going out , 8 out of 10 times the rain does not hit the windows on a rainy day so why sit at home not earning .

That's a point rarely mentioned on here.
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: gary999 on October 15, 2014, 06:52:26 am
If its dry when I go out and it starts raining I continue  working but if its
chucking it down before I go out I roll over fart,  slap the missus and tell her
to get to work while I have a lie in ;D

You only fart the once?



Any more and I would draw mud ;D
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: Positivity on October 15, 2014, 07:17:57 am
Did it for years on the west coast of Ireland, rain horizontal, sleet, snow, storm force winds!
Anyone who says working in that is O.K. or they enjoy it must be mad!
Fortunately I am in a position in life now when I am no longer desperate for money.
While that lasts I prefer not to work in the rain.
Tradding is not too bad in the rain but when you're WFP looking skywards with the rain pounding down in your face
No thanks ;D
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: 8weekly on October 15, 2014, 07:46:27 am
Interesting that the overwhelming reason given for not working in the rain is that customers won't like it. I think all but a totally unreasonable customer would understand that we can't afford to take a day off just because of a bit of rain. I think people need to man up. I had a not today yesterday and as always it was one I wanted to lose anyway. Oh and I did pick up two others.  ;D
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: Mike #1 on October 15, 2014, 07:53:47 am
Did it for years on the west coast of Ireland, rain horizontal, sleet, snow, storm force winds!
Anyone who says working in that is O.K. or they enjoy it must be mad!
Fortunately I am in a position in life now when I am no longer desperate for money.
While that lasts I prefer not to work in the rain.
Tradding is not too bad in the rain but when you're WFP looking skywards with the rain pounding down in your face
No thanks ;D

You should be looking at the windows not the sky that's why your face is getting wet
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: dazmond on October 15, 2014, 08:11:04 am
Did it for years on the west coast of Ireland, rain horizontal, sleet, snow, storm force winds!
Anyone who says working in that is O.K. or they enjoy it must be mad!
Fortunately I am in a position in life now when I am no longer desperate for money.
While that lasts I prefer not to work in the rain.
Tradding is not too bad in the rain but when you're WFP looking skywards with the rain pounding down in your face
No thanks ;D

obviously if its really windy as well as constant rain i give it a miss!

to stop rain getting on my face i wear a cap with a hood over the top.scares some of the customers sometimes though when they see a tall shadowy figure appear at the window! ;D

im certainly not "desperate" for money but i dont like losing it either because you never catch up once your behind with your schedule.it has a knock on effect that can last for months and affects your end of the year earnings.

with proper wet weather gear,gloves and boots its not too bad with wfp to work in the rain and the end of the day satisfaction is great.it very rarely rains all day so its usually only a few hours during your working day that its actually raining.

ive been there and done that(skiving off when it rains)esp when 100% trad).its not a nice feeling esp if your skint too! ::)roll ;D
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: Mick Kent on October 15, 2014, 08:13:37 am
I work in light and sometimes medium rain but anything else its a no no and my new rainy day work is being on the phone chasing commercial work. It hardly ever rains all day so sometimes i just wait for it to stop
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: LWC on October 15, 2014, 08:14:12 am
Work hard on the days you can, we make more than enough in a day. Sometimes more than some people earn in a week. As said before, knocking on the door in lashing down rain makes me (dont care how it makes YOU feel) makes me feel like a complete mong, i hate knocking when its raining. Nah its ok...ill work in the dry and keep my customers happy thanks.
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: SeanK on October 15, 2014, 08:27:44 am
Again isn't it funny how its always the guys who claim to earn a fortune daily that cant seem to lose a
day for fear of going bankrupt.
Or is it what I truly suspect, as with their earnings its nothing more than big talk.
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: Positivity on October 15, 2014, 08:41:21 am
Did it for years on the west coast of Ireland, rain horizontal, sleet, snow, storm force winds!
Anyone who says working in that is O.K. or they enjoy it must be mad!
Fortunately I am in a position in life now when I am no longer desperate for money.
While that lasts I prefer not to work in the rain.
Tradding is not too bad in the rain but when you're WFP looking skywards with the rain pounding down in your face
No thanks ;D

You should be looking at the windows not the sky that's why your face is getting wet
Is all your work bungalows then MIKE?
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: dazmond on October 15, 2014, 08:46:32 am
Work hard on the days you can, we make more than enough in a day. Sometimes more than some people earn in a week. As said before, knocking on the door in lashing down rain makes me (dont care how it makes YOU feel) makes me feel like a complete numpty, i hate knocking when its raining. Nah its ok...ill work in the dry and keep my customers happy thanks.

i prefer to work at a steady pace every day(6 or 7 hrs)  than bust a gut on just the dry days.spacing my work out over the month regardless of weather conditions.

last week on monday morning it was very wet and windy.first time in a long time so i didnt start till 1130am and finished at 6pm so all scheduled work that day was completed.

tuesday afternoon was similar but less windy but heavy rain at times.i just cracked on as i had a busy week and didnt want to work sat as had family commitments.

end result?all last weeks work was done and doesnt encroach on this weeks work.happy days.

on that note im off to work!finishing early today though as band practice tonight!! :D :D

i love this job! :)
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: 8weekly on October 15, 2014, 09:23:14 am
Again isn't it funny how its always the guys who claim to earn a fortune daily that cant seem to lose a
day for fear of going bankrupt.
Or is it what I truly suspect, as with their earnings its nothing more than big talk.

Perhaps it is that because they have so much work that days lost mean getting behind schedule? I suspect that the majority that don't work in the rain don't have full rounds so they aren't actually losing anything.
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: ascjim on October 15, 2014, 09:30:21 am
I hate getting behind, so i always work 5 days. I have dropped custies for not having done in the rain. They always call me to come back.
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: David Kent @ KentKleen on October 15, 2014, 09:53:15 am
Not working in the rain has meant I can now sit on my computer on this bright sunny day sipping a cuppa, off the tools. Work that one out!  8)
Im working of course!
Printing off leaflets that dont work.
Whats the point!
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: squeegee master on October 15, 2014, 09:54:42 am
I earn so much in one day,  I can afford to take the rest of the year off!  thank god for wfp  :)
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: SeanK on October 15, 2014, 09:56:55 am
Again isn't it funny how its always the guys who claim to earn a fortune daily that cant seem to lose a
day for fear of going bankrupt.
Or is it what I truly suspect, as with their earnings its nothing more than big talk.

Perhaps it is that because they have so much work that days lost mean getting behind schedule? I suspect that the majority that don't work in the rain don't have full rounds so they aren't actually losing anything.

So the answer is to have a little less better paid work so that your not forced to work in all weathers.
But then again isn't this what these guys claim to have.
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: Mick Kent on October 15, 2014, 10:08:38 am
Again isn't it funny how its always the guys who claim to earn a fortune daily that cant seem to lose a
day for fear of going bankrupt.
Or is it what I truly suspect, as with their earnings its nothing more than big talk.


I cant work out who your refering too?? Some verey honest answeres in this post! There is no "i am" talk here is there.
Miserable git  ;D
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: richard groves on October 15, 2014, 10:11:28 am
I don't like to work in the rain
Last Friday was heavy bursts of showers followed by sunny periods so I worked between them and sat in the van when it rained. Prior to that there were very heavy and blustery winds so I re scheduled my seafront properties to this week ( did them yesterday ) Monday this week it rained all day non stop so i stayed home.
I would probably have recieved complaints from a few, turned away, as a result got less work done and had to return on a dry day to a few messing up my round schedule further and costing more in diesel.
Its more to do with knowing your round and your customers and what is acceptable.
I have been working my round long enough that I know which properties will be adversely affected by different weather and which customers are likely to be fussy and plan or re schedule accordingly.
If its a pig of a day and lashing it down I think its sensible to ask yourself the question " would I pay for this ?"
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: Mick Kent on October 15, 2014, 10:12:15 am
Not working in the rain has meant I can now sit on my computer on this bright sunny day sipping a cuppa, off the tools. Work that one out!  8)
Im working of course!
Printing off leaflets that dont work.
Whats the point!

Are you and vin related?? You both say the same reverse sarcastic rubbish all the time about leaflets etc.. Oooooo leaflets dont work oooooo leaflets dont work..zzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: David Kent @ KentKleen on October 15, 2014, 10:15:39 am
Your the only one who bites!  ;D
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: Mick Kent on October 15, 2014, 10:23:30 am
You wont reel me in here mr kent  :)

Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: SeanK on October 15, 2014, 10:26:09 am
Again isn't it funny how its always the guys who claim to earn a fortune daily that cant seem to lose a
day for fear of going bankrupt.
Or is it what I truly suspect, as with their earnings its nothing more than big talk.


I cant work out who your refering too?? Some verey honest answeres in this post! There is no "i am" talk here is there.
Miserable git  ;D

Did I say there was any " I am " talk on this post I was referring to previous posts made on other topics across this
forum.
As for the miserable git comment, o.k. I cant disagree with you on that one.
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: windowswashed on October 15, 2014, 05:43:18 pm
Some people don't like you cleaning their windows in the rain, others don't mind and some people work your hours and wouldn't even realise you've been. Commercial aint too bothered. Have a look on job sites and be amazed how little people go to work for and compare yourself to them. Then appreciate how good you've got it and weigh up how desperate you are to earn money by working in the rain compared to how much you can earn on dry-ish days.
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: 8weekly on October 15, 2014, 06:19:11 pm
Again isn't it funny how its always the guys who claim to earn a fortune daily that cant seem to lose a
day for fear of going bankrupt.
Or is it what I truly suspect, as with their earnings its nothing more than big talk.

Perhaps it is that because they have so much work that days lost mean getting behind schedule? I suspect that the majority that don't work in the rain don't have full rounds so they aren't actually losing anything.

So the answer is to have a little less better paid work so that your not forced to work in all weathers.
But then again isn't this what these guys claim to have.
It depends where you are hoping to get to. My work is pretty well paid, but my round is chocka block. As I take on more first cleans I get behind. At one time when I didn't have enough work I would do as you do and not work. Now I have no choice as I am 7 working days behind.
Title: Re: Those who dont work in rain
Post by: gary999 on October 15, 2014, 06:32:12 pm
Bloody hell who cares ;D

Some are happy to work in the rain others arenot.

Relax none of you have to justify what you do,just get on with it :)

You lot are worse than a group of washer women ;D