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Title: First time cleaning pole with PTFE
Post by: H20cleaning on October 13, 2014, 06:44:22 pm
I never really wash or maintain my clx 27 pole but recently i have notice it could do with a clean.

So i washed it in hot water dried it off then applied wd40 PTFE dry lubricant! And the pole glides nicely through the clamps! Much better now, i will use PTFE spray every other day from now on wish ide done it sooner.

Did i read that some of you use some kind of laquer spray or something? If so what kind and does it help
Title: Re: First time cleaning pole with PTFE
Post by: Mike #1 on October 13, 2014, 07:02:26 pm
For my SLX I only use the PTFE spray that Gardiners sell a couple of light coats lasts weeks .
Title: Re: First time cleaning pole with PTFE
Post by: Steve foster on October 13, 2014, 07:39:15 pm
Toolstation sell it for around £3.50
Title: Re: First time cleaning pole with PTFE
Post by: Alex Gardiner on October 13, 2014, 08:01:48 pm
Toolstation sell it for around £3.50

The PTFE Spray that Toolstation sells - http://www.toolstation.com/shop/p63929 is not a Dry-Film spray and should not be used on Carbon Fibre poles.
Title: Re: First time cleaning pole with PTFE
Post by: H20cleaning on October 13, 2014, 08:22:33 pm
So do people use a laquer aswell as PTFE ? Or is that what people call it? Im confused
Title: Re: First time cleaning pole with PTFE
Post by: Steve foster on October 13, 2014, 08:34:18 pm
Thanks for that Alex. It does dry but not totally as its a bit sticky for a couple of days.
Title: Re: First time cleaning pole with PTFE
Post by: rah on October 13, 2014, 08:43:26 pm
Mine are getting ready for a coat of something ???? Glad I didn't use the toolstation one now, what should we use Mr Alex :)
Title: Re: First time cleaning pole with PTFE
Post by: Alex Gardiner on October 13, 2014, 08:57:59 pm
So do people use a laquer aswell as PTFE ? Or is that what people call it? Im confused

For general maintenance most simply use PTFE spray on a clean pole. This will help prevent much of the wear.

Some clients do regularly apply a tough lacquer to the pole once it is slightly older which can prolong the lifespan. Here is a video from one of our clients who does such a thing on an Xtreme pole - http://youtu.be/QNeHSiVhfS4?list=UUbuxJ_e6-YuPC4Xp_3YX_KQ from 4 minutes 13 seconds in.
Title: Re: First time cleaning pole with PTFE
Post by: Alex Gardiner on October 13, 2014, 08:59:24 pm
Mine are getting ready for a coat of something ???? Glad I didn't use the toolstation one now, what should we use Mr Alex :)

I would recommend using our own supplied PTFE Dry-Film Spray naturally  ;)

http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/ptfe-spray-400-ml.html
Title: Re: First time cleaning pole with PTFE
Post by: Plankton on October 13, 2014, 11:28:26 pm
So do people use a laquer aswell as PTFE ? Or is that what people call it? Im confused

For general maintenance most simply use PTFE spray on a clean pole. This will help prevent much of the wear.

Some clients do regularly apply a tough lacquer to the pole once it is slightly older which can prolong the lifespan. Here is a video from one of our clients who does such a thing on an Xtreme pole - http://youtu.be/QNeHSiVhfS4?list=UUbuxJ_e6-YuPC4Xp_3YX_KQ from 4 minutes 13 seconds in.
That's good to know ;)
Title: Re: First time cleaning pole with PTFE
Post by: oldman on October 14, 2014, 05:48:17 am
Car Wax is what I use.
Title: Re: First time cleaning pole with PTFE
Post by: Small but perfectley formed on October 14, 2014, 06:39:25 am
Screwfix sell dry Ptfe £7.99 400ml
Title: Re: First time cleaning pole with PTFE
Post by: richard groves on October 14, 2014, 09:35:09 am
Toolstation sell it for around £3.50

The PTFE Spray that Toolstation sells - http://www.toolstation.com/shop/p63929 is not a Dry-Film spray and should not be used on Carbon Fibre poles.
can i ask why please Alex ? i have some in my van and have used it on my supermax in the past, does it damage it ?
Title: Re: First time cleaning pole with PTFE
Post by: Steve foster on October 14, 2014, 07:44:16 pm
Ive been using it for over a year and the pole looks in good condition.
Title: Re: First time cleaning pole with PTFE
Post by: Alex Gardiner on October 14, 2014, 08:40:03 pm
Toolstation sell it for around £3.50

The PTFE Spray that Toolstation sells - http://www.toolstation.com/shop/p63929 is not a Dry-Film spray and should not be used on Carbon Fibre poles.
can i ask why please Alex ? i have some in my van and have used it on my supermax in the past, does it damage it ?

Due to being oil based it has the potential to damage it due to its penetrating action. It is not recommended by any carbon fibre manufacturers due to the risk of delamination. Of course having the potential to damage does not mean that it will a lot depends on the pole surface condition and actual use of the product.

We naturally will not recommend it due to the potential for damage though. A dry-film PTFE spray is much more effective at protecting the pole and does not have the potential for damage.
Title: Re: First time cleaning pole with PTFE
Post by: richard groves on October 15, 2014, 08:59:32 am
Toolstation sell it for around £3.50

The PTFE Spray that Toolstation sells - http://www.toolstation.com/shop/p63929 is not a Dry-Film spray and should not be used on Carbon Fibre poles.
can i ask why please Alex ? i have some in my van and have used it on my supermax in the past, does it damage it ?

Due to being oil based it has the potential to damage it due to its penetrating action. It is not recommended by any carbon fibre manufacturers due to the risk of delamination. Of course having the potential to damage does not mean that it will a lot depends on the pole surface condition and actual use of the product.

We naturally will not recommend it due to the potential for damage though. A dry-film PTFE spray is much more effective at protecting the pole and does not have the potential for damage.
thanks for the explanation
Title: Re: First time cleaning pole with PTFE
Post by: JSMC on December 08, 2014, 09:28:22 pm
http://www.screwfix.com/p/wd-40-dry-ptfe-lubricant-400ml/36613?cm_sp=Search-_-SearchRec-_-Area1&_requestid=310051#_=p

this ok? basically clean down the pole then spray this ?
Title: Re: First time cleaning pole with PTFE
Post by: Window Lickers on December 08, 2014, 09:46:53 pm
Thats it.
Title: Re: First time cleaning pole with PTFE
Post by: Leeds on December 09, 2014, 09:55:08 am
and here its even cheaper! £5.99 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WD-40-Anti-Friction-Dry-PTFE-Lubricant-400ml-UK-KART-STORE-/331405392288?pt=UK_Cars_Parts_Vehicles_Other_Vehicle_Parts_Accessories_ET&hash=item4d294cf9a0
Title: Re: First time cleaning pole with PTFE
Post by: Alex Gardiner on December 09, 2014, 10:48:18 am
and here its even cheaper! £5.99 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WD-40-Anti-Friction-Dry-PTFE-Lubricant-400ml-UK-KART-STORE-/331405392288?pt=UK_Cars_Parts_Vehicles_Other_Vehicle_Parts_Accessories_ET&hash=item4d294cf9a0

I have tried this brand out (we wanted to stock it as it is a respected brand name) however we found that compared to other dry-film PTFE it was not very good. It gave a very thin film of PTFE and seemed never to flash dry properly. I stopped using it after just a few uses.