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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Jack Harris on October 12, 2014, 04:16:30 pm

Title: Expanding you business?
Post by: Jack Harris on October 12, 2014, 04:16:30 pm
Hi everyone, Ive been thinking a lot lately about expanding my window cleaning round and aiming to get multiple vans on the road in the future.

What sort of figures would you expect each van to bring in week after week? i know how much my van takes now but i know every worker isn't the same etc what would be a realistic figure for one man with a 400l system.

Cheers  ;D
Title: Re: Expanding you business?
Post by: Ian Lancaster on October 12, 2014, 05:26:04 pm
Hi Jack,

Re our correspondence in August last year: as I explained, each van returns 20% of the turnover achieved.  Doesn't sound so much, but it's virtually clear profit with none of the headache of employing.

So if you have a fleet of vans (regardless of how many men in each one) all turning over £1,000 per week then five will give you £1,000 profit.

And so on.....
Title: Re: Expanding you business?
Post by: Jack Harris on October 12, 2014, 05:49:34 pm
Hi Ian

Thanks for the reply and ill be in touch with you shortly.

Cheers

Jack
Title: Re: Expanding you business?
Post by: Mick Kent on October 12, 2014, 06:35:48 pm
Depends how many houses you want done as a min! With 400 litres of water that will do a whole day doing a min of 20-25 normal average sized houses, so depending on your priceing average it out at 20-25 X your average price.

£10x 20 houses a day is £200 a day or £1000 a week before expences.
Title: Re: Expanding you business?
Post by: 8weekly on October 12, 2014, 08:03:33 pm
Depends how many houses you want done as a min! With 400 litres of water that will do a whole day doing a min of 20-25 normal average sized houses, so depending on your priceing average it out at 20-25 X your average price.

£10x 20 houses a day is £200 a day or £1000 a week before expences.
I must admit I struggled to get a whole day out of 400 litres. One or two first cleans and you have no chance.

Title: Re: Expanding you business?
Post by: richywilts on October 12, 2014, 08:24:12 pm
yeah weve always struggled with 300 and 400 litres always come back to refill
Title: Re: Expanding you business?
Post by: Nathanael Jones on October 12, 2014, 08:55:27 pm
Hi Jack,

Re our correspondence in August last year: as I explained, each van returns 20% of the turnover achieved.  Doesn't sound so much, but it's virtually clear profit with none of the headache of employing.

So if you have a fleet of vans (regardless of how many men in each one) all turning over £1,000 per week then five will give you £1,000 profit.

And so on.....

I have to say, I expected it to be more.

With all the hassle of running an extra van, managing staff, managing a larger customer base, worries about idiot employees & H&S, additional insurances & additional opportunities for the insurance to be needed,.. £200 a week doesn't actually seem like enough to cover all of that!

There has to be an easier way to expand?
Title: Re: Expanding you business?
Post by: David Kent @ KentKleen on October 12, 2014, 09:06:03 pm
Nat, Ian is talking about 'franchising' so all the hassle you mention is taken away. Each van operator is self employed and arranges his own insurance and runs his own van etc etc.
Title: Re: Expanding you business?
Post by: 8weekly on October 12, 2014, 09:07:09 pm
Hi Jack,

Re our correspondence in August last year: as I explained, each van returns 20% of the turnover achieved.  Doesn't sound so much, but it's virtually clear profit with none of the headache of employing.

So if you have a fleet of vans (regardless of how many men in each one) all turning over £1,000 per week then five will give you £1,000 profit.

And so on.....

I have to say, I expected it to be more.

With all the hassle of running an extra van, managing staff, managing a larger customer base, worries about idiot employees & H&S, additional insurances & additional opportunities for the insurance to be needed,.. £200 a week doesn't actually seem like enough to cover all of that!

There has to be an easier way to expand?
That's the franchise route. The point is that you don't have most of those worries. I would expect a second van should return 40% as direct employs taking into account all the overheads.
Title: Re: Expanding you business?
Post by: Nathanael Jones on October 12, 2014, 09:19:06 pm
Ah right - I should have read the opening threads more carefully!  :-[
Title: Re: Expanding you business?
Post by: Marc Whitbread on October 12, 2014, 10:35:57 pm
Personally I find on my own on a full day I use 500l or so 2 people and its usually nearer the 800-900 mark
when I send my guy out on his own I would expect 225-250 in summer and about 200-225 or so in winter I think more is achievable but obviously then quality is likely to drop I'd say 1200 a week is reasonable target on average but depends on the person and also what your jobs are worth etc.

Hth

Marc