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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: supernova77 on October 08, 2014, 07:01:57 pm
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The differences in prices across the country always interests me...
How much would you charge for these 2 houses? They were the first ones that I cleaned this morning - No one was home so I was able to take pictures.
The first house was a first clean.
All WFP.
7 weekly frequency.
North Hampshire.
House 1
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House 2
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House 1 = £25 8 weekly
House 2 = £32/35 8 weekly
House 1 = £20 4 weekly
House 2 = £25 4 weekly
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House 1 £11 House 2 £16 - 4 weekly £12 £18 - 8 weekly (don't do 7 weekly)
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House 1 £12 4x £15 8x
House 2 with velux £16 4x £20 8x
Darran
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12.50
17.50
Both 4 weekly
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Don't do any domestics but would price
House 1 £10 per clean
House 2 £15 per clean - due to rear upstairs
That's me in Liverpool
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House 2 with velux
Well spotted ;)
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House 1 £10 house 2 £15. £1 extra on both for doors.
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House 1: £10 every 4 weeks
house 2 : £15 every 4 weeks
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This is one I did myself this morning: http://primeresidential.wordpress.com/2013/03/02/wentworth-manor-portnall-rise-virginia-water-surrey/
What would you charge roughly, there's a pool roof as well at the back but its easy to get up onto the flat roof to clean it..
Took me on my own 2.5 hours, not rushing.
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house 1 £12-£15
house 2 £20-£25
or both £10 fronts if didnt have rear access.
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£18.00 and £30.00.
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This is one I did myself this morning: http://primeresidential.wordpress.com/2013/03/02/wentworth-manor-portnall-rise-virginia-water-surrey/
What would you charge roughly, there's a pool roof as well at the back but its easy to get up onto the flat roof to clean it..
Took me on my own 2.5 hours, not rushing.
£200.
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House 1 £12 4x £15 8x
House 2 with velux £16 4x £20 8x
Darran
Same
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i dont do 7 weekly ? what a strange schedule , unless you mistyped?
house 1 - id of gone with £12 , 4 or 8 weekly
house 2 around £16 4 weekly , a little more for 8
As long as you compact your work fairly well , those prices will make a good wage
Id struggle to build a big enough business with some of the prices quoted, sure i could get the work at that price but not enough and not compact enough
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i dont do 7 weekly ? what a strange schedule , unless you mistyped?
It wasn't a mistype.... It is 7 weekly... I used to do 8 weekly, but changed everyone to 7 weekly as I get an extra clean per year out of them ;)
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i dont do 7 weekly ? what a strange schedule , unless you mistyped?
It wasn't a mistype.... It is 7 weekly... I used to do 8 weekly, but changed everyone to 7 weekly as I get an extra clean per year out of them ;)
How does that work, i can't get it to add up ?
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Seven visits a year instead of six. 16% increase in income
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should do 4 weekly and do 13 cleans a year.
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should do 4 weekly and do 13 cleans a year.
I think my customers might notice that ;)
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House 1 £11 House 2 £16 - 4 weekly £12 £18 - 8 weekly (don't do 7 weekly)
Add £1 to both prices for house 2 - didn't notice the velux (still can't see it!!)
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House 1 £11 House 2 £16 - 4 weekly £12 £18 - 8 weekly (don't do 7 weekly)
Add £1 to both prices for house 2 - didn't notice the velux (still can't see it!!)
Call yourself a window cleaner 😄😄
I'm getting new glasses tomorrow, would you like to join me...❓
Darran
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I'm old school, I could judge how clean they were by the feel ;D
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I would have charged £20!for house 1 and £25 for house 2. Extra £5 for the first cleans.
What did you charge Andy?
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House 1 £20 or £25
House 2 £30 or £40
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I think I'm the cheapest so far. :(
Based on my 8 weekly price
House 1 - £9
House 2- £12
All frames and ledges doors Velux's included.
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I have two rounds in different parts of Scotland, prices would be different in each area.
Fife Round
House 1 .. £12 for 8 weekly.
House 2 .. £18 for 8 weekly.
Dumfries & Galloway Round
House 1 .. £18 for 8 weekly.
House 2 .. £27 for 8 weekly.
For 4 weekly, I knock a third off.
For quarterly, I add a third on.
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I have two rounds in different parts of Scotland, prices would be different in each area.
Fife Round
House 1 .. £12 for 8 weekly.
House 2 .. £18 for 8 weekly.
Dumfries & Galloway Round
House 1 .. £18 for 8 weekly.
House 2 .. £27 for 8 weekly.
For 4 weekly, I knock a third off.
For quarterly, I add a third on.
Where are you based? That is some distance between these rounds.
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House 1.....£8
House 2.....£14.. ladders would have to come off for windows above extension
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house1 £12 house2 £15
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I have two rounds in different parts of Scotland, prices would be different in each area.
Fife Round
House 1 .. £12 for 8 weekly.
House 2 .. £18 for 8 weekly.
Dumfries & Galloway Round
House 1 .. £18 for 8 weekly.
House 2 .. £27 for 8 weekly.
For 4 weekly, I knock a third off.
For quarterly, I add a third on.
Where are you based? That is some distance between these rounds.
Hi KS
I'm based in Glenrothes, moved back here 2 years ago after 12 years in Dumfries, window cleaning prices up here have got worse in the 12 years I have been away from Fife, thanks to the usual cowboys haha ... Where about do you operate?
Fortunately for me I don't have to do the 2 n half hour drive, I have a family member down there who rents round of me
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I have two rounds in different parts of Scotland, prices would be different in each area.
Fife Round
House 1 .. £12 for 8 weekly.
House 2 .. £18 for 8 weekly.
Dumfries & Galloway Round
House 1 .. £18 for 8 weekly.
House 2 .. £27 for 8 weekly.
For 4 weekly, I knock a third off.
For quarterly, I add a third on.
Where are you based? That is some distance between these rounds.
Hi KS
I'm based in Glenrothes, moved back here 2 years ago after 12 years in Dumfries, window cleaning prices up here have got worse in the 12 years I have been away from Fife, thanks to the usual cowboys haha ... Where about do you operate?
Fortunately for me I don't have to do the 2 n half hour drive, I have a family member down there who rents round of me
Av got 3 weeks in Kirkcaldy, the other week av got Glenrothes, Kettle and Dunfermline. Aye the prices here are no great compared to down south, but if you get the round compact enough there's still decent enough money to be made.
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House 1 £14
House2 £20. Six weekly visits
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HOUSE 1 :£10/£15(4weekly/8weekly)
HOUSE 2 :£20/£25(4weekly/8weekly)
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1st house £12 monthly only
2nd house £18 monthly / £26 bimonthly ......... maybe cheap compared to some but front is a doddle and would take about 6 to 8 minutes so would make up for tricky rear inc velux
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House 1.....£8
House 2.....£14.. ladders would have to come off for windows above extension
oh dear!ID HATE TO HAVE TO GET LADDERS OFF TO CLIMB ON THAT ROOF ON PIC 2!i used to years ago but its dodgy esp when wet. ::)roll
why cant you clean these windows with your pole from the ground?i clean loads like this with a 25 ft extreme pole.
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£15 the first
£25 the second
either every 4 or 8 weeks
south east england
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House 1 £25
House 2 £30
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First one £50 6-weekly, £75 12-weekly
Second one £75 6-weekly, £115 12-weekly
Southern England
Vin
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First one £50 6-weekly, £75 12-weekly
Second one £75 6-weekly, £115 12-weekly
Southern England
Vin
😳😳😳😳😳😳
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House 1.....£8
House 2.....£14.. ladders would have to come off for windows above extension
oh dear!ID HATE TO HAVE TO GET LADDERS OFF TO CLIMB ON THAT ROOF ON PIC 2!i used to years ago but its dodgy esp when wet. ::)roll
why cant you clean these windows with your pole from the ground?i clean loads like this with a 25 ft extreme pole.
You must be about 8' tall if you can get to the bottom of these windows from the decking, ladders would be needed to do the velux windows anyway.
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Velux and windows over roof can be reached easily with my Extreme pole - I do loads like that.
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I charged £30 for the first clean of House 1... now it's £23 every 7 weeks.
House 2 is £28 every 7 weeks.
I can reach the windows at the back of House 2 over the extension and the velux windows using an SLX-25... I'm 6ft 6" which helps.
Andy ;)
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Are you VAT registered yet?
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£11
£17
once a month, 1st clean double
tony
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would love to get some of the prices on here :o , no chance in SY :'(
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I'm in South Yorkshire.
4 weekly
House 1 £7
House 2 £12
Although I've got houses bigger than house 1 at a fiver but they're going up next year.
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why is house 2 leaning the cleaning tower of pisa
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House 1
£10 4w £12 8w
House 2
£14 4w £16 8w
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Velux and windows over roof can be reached easily with my Extreme pole - I do loads like that.
I reach most of mine as well, but a don't think a would get the velux on that roof with my extreme pole, the roof looks too flat for me as I don't use a gooseneck
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Now the really interesting bit....
HOW many can you do in a day....
Darran
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Now the really interesting bit....
HOW many can you do in a day....
Darran
25 to 30 house 1
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Don't do any domestics but would price
House 1 £10 per clean
House 2 £15 per clean - due to rear upstairs
That's me in Liverpool
as he said :)
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House 1 25-28 initial depending how bad then £18-20
House 2 30-40+ initial then £25-28
:)
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some of u window cleaners must earning over £400 a day
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some of u window cleaners must earning over £400 a day
Now its darker earlier and torrential rain can stop play every now and then unfortunately it could be the case ;D
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Velux and windows over roof can be reached easily with my Extreme pole - I do loads like that.
+1
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some of u window cleaners must earning over £400 a day
Daz,much more ;D
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Where you on the 'French' thread Benjy?
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First one £50 6-weekly, £75 12-weekly
Second one £75 6-weekly, £115 12-weekly
Southern England
Vin
Does it include the gutters fascias and soffits to ?
That cant be for real?
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Obviously in someone's bonce it is ;D
Even if there's no more than 35 minutes in that second house every 12 weeks
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some guys here must be earning some serious wonga
My prices seem ridiculous to the majority on here
Yet only working 5 days this week and only doing £80 tuesday i did just shy of 1k, i didnt do more than 7 hrs on anyone one day either in fact much less most of the time -with very average pricing , so if i had the prices quoted here id be doing 2k a week , yet no one is doing that so either you all work about 1 hr a day or theres mountains of bull crap being spouted as fact
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The stench can be quite overwhelming at times.
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I don't know if it's just odd or coincidental but bull$hit and trying to be the big cheese smell remarkably similar.
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yeh true ... i get that theres a north south difference but i dont think its as pronounced as everyone thinks as theres affluent areas everywhere ... I get the same prices in affluent areas as i do in Oldham where i live
How you can justify anymore than £15, £20 max if its in some gold plated estate? for that first house ? 10 windows and 2 doors?
If your pricing was more realistic alot of you would have more compact work and save money not driving huge distances between the mugs paying you these ridiculous sums !
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Their pricing is more realistic - just not on here.
If someone stood in front of me, assuming I owned that second property, and told me it would be £115 to clean the windows on it I don't know if I'd laugh or cry.
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Their pricing is more realistic - just not on here.
If someone stood in front of me, assuming I owned that second property, and told me it would be £115 to clean the windows on it I don't know if I'd laugh or cry.
Id cry laughing lol , id at least want a hand job thrown in with that one
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Lol.
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Ask him, I'm sure he'll oblige, probably do most things for that kind of money. ;D
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Best thread I have seen in ages.
Picked one up today. Same as house 1. Every 5/6 weeks and it's gonna be £16
When I do the first clean. I will show her this thread and some of the prices quoted. See what she makes of it.
Once she has stopped laughing I will get what she thinks her house should be priced at. She was happy at £16. For me it's a 10/15 min house.
You don't have to dig very far. £400 a day. Not vat registered. Tiny house. 12 year old van. Clx held together with tape.
The guys who are doing well are the ones who don't come on here. Own more than one house. And drive round in new vans.
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Best thread I have seen in ages.
Picked one up today. Same as house 1. Every 5/6 weeks and it's gonna be £16
When I do the first clean. I will show her this thread and some of the prices quoted. See what she makes of it.
Once she has stopped laughing I will get what she thinks her house should be priced at. She was happy at £16. For me it's a 10/15 min house.
You don't have to dig very far. £400 a day. Not vat registered. Tiny house. 12 year old van. Clx held together with tape.
The guys who are doing well are the ones who don't come on here. Own more than one house. And drive round in new vans.
Fella I knew who did extremely well out of shining was driving round in an R reg Nissan Vanette a few years ago when he packed up.
It's a fact-you just can't tell how much money people make.
Even the lads on here who worry about spending 50p on a connector or whatever.
Maybe they can afford it but their careful with their pennies. That's why they've got pennies.
My brother (not a shiner) is just this type-just for example
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Best thread I have seen in ages.
Picked one up today. Same as house 1. Every 5/6 weeks and it's gonna be £16
When I do the first clean. I will show her this thread and some of the prices quoted. See what she makes of it.
Once she has stopped laughing I will get what she thinks her house should be priced at. She was happy at £16. For me it's a 10/15 min house.
You don't have to dig very far. £400 a day. Not vat registered. Tiny house. 12 year old van. Clx held together with tape.
The guys who are doing well are the ones who don't come on here. Own more than one house. And drive round in new vans.
Fella I knew who did extremely well out of shining was driving round in an R reg Nissan Vanette a few years ago when he packed up.
It's a fact-you just can't tell how much money people make.
Even the lads on here who worry about spending 50p on a connector or whatever.
Maybe they can afford it but their careful with their pennies. That's why they've got pennies.
My brother (not a shiner) is just this type-just for example
There will be a few who are an exception to the rule.
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yeh true ... i get that theres a north south difference but i dont think its as pronounced as everyone thinks as theres affluent areas everywhere ... I get the same prices in affluent areas as i do in Oldham where i live
How you can justify anymore than £15, £20 max if its in some gold plated estate? for that first house ? 10 windows and 2 doors?
If your pricing was more realistic alot of you would have more compact work and save money not driving huge distances between the mugs paying you these ridiculous sums !
Believe it or not I do charge £23 for the first house.
Shock! Horror!
Why is that a ridiculous sum?
The property is in a rural village in Hampshire... The rent per month is £1100... The customer runs her own IT business, owns horses etc... So paying £23 for her windows to be cleaned every 7 weeks isn't an issue at all - It's all relative.
I also have other houses in the same village - so I'm not driving around all day... It's compact work.
However - I don't do 7 hours on the glass all day every day... I'm currently trying to expand - so I probably only do 15 - 20 hours on the glass time a week - the rest of the time I'm canvassing and quoting new work and scheduling work in for the other van.
Andy
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yeh true ... i get that theres a north south difference but i dont think its as pronounced as everyone thinks as theres affluent areas everywhere ... I get the same prices in affluent areas as i do in Oldham where i live
How you can justify anymore than £15, £20 max if its in some gold plated estate? for that first house ? 10 windows and 2 doors?
If your pricing was more realistic alot of you would have more compact work and save money not driving huge distances between the mugs paying you these ridiculous sums !
Believe it or not I do charge £23 for the first house.
Shock! Horror!
Why is that a ridiculous sum?
The property is in a rural village in Hampshire... The rent per month is £1100... The customer runs her own IT business, owns horses etc... So paying £23 for her windows to be cleaned every 7 weeks isn't an issue at all - It's all relative.
I also have other houses in the same village - so I'm not driving around all day... It's compact work.
However - I don't do 7 hours on the glass all day every day... I'm currently trying to expand - so I probably only do 15 - 20 hours on the glass time a week - the rest of the time I'm canvassing and quoting new work and scheduling work in for the other van.
Andy
I do t think he was refering to your pricing Andy, more the extortionate claims on here by others.
Just re-read, well maybe ;D
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yeh true ... i get that theres a north south difference but i dont think its as pronounced as everyone thinks as theres affluent areas everywhere ... I get the same prices in affluent areas as i do in Oldham where i live
How you can justify anymore than £15, £20 max if its in some gold plated estate? for that first house ? 10 windows and 2 doors?
If your pricing was more realistic alot of you would have more compact work and save money not driving huge distances between the mugs paying you these ridiculous sums !
Believe it or not I do charge £23 for the first house.
Shock! Horror!
Why is that a ridiculous sum?
The property is in a rural village in Hampshire... The rent per month is £1100... The customer runs her own IT business, owns horses etc... So paying £23 for her windows to be cleaned every 7 weeks isn't an issue at all - It's all relative.
I also have other houses in the same village - so I'm not driving around all day... It's compact work.
However - I don't do 7 hours on the glass all day every day... I'm currently trying to expand - so I probably only do 15 - 20 hours on the glass time a week - the rest of the time I'm canvassing and quoting new work and scheduling work in for the other van.
Andy
Why are you running 2 vans when the first van only has 2 days a week?
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Why are you running 2 vans when the first van only has 2 days a week?
We have a LWB Vivaro which does the bulk of the work 5 days a week.
Then I'm in a Citroen Dispatch which I use to carry out first cleans - and how else would I get around to canvass and quote?
It would be impossible to build up a business big enough to run 2 vans 5 days a week without buying a 2nd van first... How would you clean new customers etc.. if the first van was busy all week on regular work?
Andy
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yeh true ... i get that theres a north south difference but i dont think its as pronounced as everyone thinks as theres affluent areas everywhere ... I get the same prices in affluent areas as i do in Oldham where i live
How you can justify anymore than £15, £20 max if its in some gold plated estate? for that first house ? 10 windows and 2 doors?
If your pricing was more realistic alot of you would have more compact work and save money not driving huge distances between the mugs paying you these ridiculous sums !
Cleaning £400 a day is only 20x£20 houses or 30x£15 houses.
Guys who have full rounds who havnt shy'd away from price rising should be able to hit decent numbers if working a full day! If working at a normal steady lace of 4 houses an hour then thats 5 hours to clean £400, Even if slow doing 3 houses an hour at £20 a house in 7 hours thats £420.
Maybe not everyday due to weather but when its a clear normal day i think everyone of us are capable of cleaning 20 plus normal sized houses a day so if you have half decent prices then it is quite doable.
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Sorry Mick but lets take your post for an example, how many low skilled jobs could get £400 a day
in any part of the country north or south ?
How many people would jump at window cleaning if the money was that good or even half as good ?
I mean its no longer a dangerous way to earn a living which was part of the reason that a lot of people
would have never even considered doing it for a living.
Mick Kent and others on here seem to live in a world where there's gold in window cleaning but the rest of the
population haven't caught on to this fact.
I mean look closer at his post, all you would need to do is work 20 hours a week to earn 50 grand or more a year.
Or one and a half days a week to more than beat the U.K. average yearly wage.
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Sorry Mick but lets take your post for an example, how many low skilled jobs could get £400 a day
in any part of the country north or south ?
How many people would jump at window cleaning if the money was that good or even half as good ?
I mean its no longer a dangerous way to earn a living which was part of the reason that a lot of people
would have never even considered doing it for a living.
Mick Kent and others on here seem to live in a world where there's gold in window cleaning but the rest of the
population haven't caught on to this fact.
I mean look closer at his post, all you would need to do is work 20 hours a week to earn 50 grand or more a year.
Or one and a half days a week to more than beat the U.K. average yearly wage.
It isn't a low skilled job. You are running a business. Your thinking holds you back.
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Sorry Mick but lets take your post for an example, how many low skilled jobs could get £400 a day
in any part of the country north or south ?
How many people would jump at window cleaning if the money was that good or even half as good ?
I mean its no longer a dangerous way to earn a living which was part of the reason that a lot of people
would have never even considered doing it for a living.
Mick Kent and others on here seem to live in a world where there's gold in window cleaning but the rest of the
population haven't caught on to this fact.
I mean look closer at his post, all you would need to do is work 20 hours a week to earn 50 grand or more a year.
Or one and a half days a week to more than beat the U.K. average yearly wage.
It isn't a low skilled job. You are running a business. Your thinking holds you back.
What qualifications do you need to clean windows ?
Do you need years of training in order to clean windows ?
Its a low skilled job that anybody could get into with little or no capital you know it and I know it.
Yes it does take a little more skill to employ but even that isn't rocket science.
Its not thinking that holds me back its reality.
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[quote author=SeanK link=topic=189775.msg1637955#msg1637955 date=1413721357
I mean look closer at his post, all you would need to do is work 20 hours a week to earn 50 grand or more a year.
Or one and a half days a week to more than beat the U.K. average yearly wage.
[/quote]
And your point is ?
I fear your getting confused between turn over and profit, a paye entitles you to 28 days holiday, sometimes full sick pay, employer in contributions no running costs
As a buisness you need to cover non working days like sick and holidays etc..
People who don't grasp this under price and can't move forward they price and do work in the same manner as paye not allowing for the add ons.
And lots don't need to price as a biz and are completely happy earning £150 per day and cover their household bills and time off ( some have other income from partners and previous jobs etc )
Darran
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I'm surprised how many domestic window cleaners must be vat registered or nearly at that point.
For those that are
How did your customers take the increase or did you absorb the vat?
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[quote author=SeanK link=topic=189775.msg1637955#msg1637955 date=1413721357
I mean look closer at his post, all you would need to do is work 20 hours a week to earn 50 grand or more a year.
Or one and a half days a week to more than beat the U.K. average yearly wage.
And your point is ?
I fear your getting confused between turn over and profit, a paye entitles you to 28 days holiday, sometimes full sick pay, employer in contributions no running costs
As a buisness you need to cover non working days like sick and holidays etc..
People who don't grasp this under price and can't move forward they price and do work in the same manner as paye not allowing for the add ons.
And lots don't need to price as a biz and are completely happy earning £150 per day and cover their household bills and time off ( some have other income from partners and previous jobs etc )
Darran
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My point is if you where to believe these type of posts then you could make 30 grand a year for working 75 days or
15 weeks a year.
Even if you take 5 grand off for expenses that would give you just under £500 a week, so you would get
37 weeks paid holidays.
I cant believe that so many on here cant spot the B.S.
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House 1 £10
House 2 £15
Ive got quite a few of number 2 type houses on new estates wish I had
more absolute doddle to clean
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Everything gets polarised on here, are we talking 1 man of 2 men for that figure, theoretically you could do these figures, could they be do 5 days a week by one man, yes if you had every house in the street every day you go out to clean.
We are thousands of different businesses on a forum, all with different ambitions, targets methods of working, when I started 5 years ago, not only had I never heard of an applicator but truly thought a window cleaner could never earn more then 80 quid a day tops ( oh how wrong was I ) back then FWC were stating you should be getting £30 p/h - 5 years on even with low inflation rates equals a rate of £35 p/h
£30k is not a big sum, less expenses less tax. For running a biz
Darran
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My point is if you where to believe these type of posts then you could make 30 grand a year for working 75 days or
15 weeks a year.
Even if you take 5 grand off for expenses that would give you just under £500 a week, so you would get
37 weeks paid holidays.
I cant believe that so many on here cant spot the B.S.
Where have you got this figure £400 a day from ???
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If £400 a day in 5 easy hours is your reality of window cleaning mick then fair play to you , but trust me , despite what everyone claims on here , its a very small minority knocking them figures out consistently , and definitely not in 5 easy hours a day
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Everything gets polarised on here, are we talking 1 man of 2 men for that figure, theoretically you could do these figures, could they be do 5 days a week by one man, yes if you had every house in the street every day you go out to clean.
We are thousands of different businesses on a forum, all with different ambitions, targets methods of working, when I started 5 years ago, not only had I never heard of an applicator but truly thought a window cleaner could never earn more then 80 quid a day tops ( oh how wrong was I ) back then FWC were stating you should be getting £30 p/h - 5 years on even with low inflation rates equals a rate of £35 p/h
£30k is not a big sum, less expenses less tax. For running a biz
Darran
I averaged my hourly rate out for last week and it was £35.70 per hr
My missus helps me the odd day to, cleaning easy windows trad and posting the notes / collecting the money
PS thats from starting up at first job and packing away at the last
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My point is if you where to believe these type of posts then you could make 30 grand a year for working 75 days or
15 weeks a year.
Even if you take 5 grand off for expenses that would give you just under £500 a week, so you would get
37 weeks paid holidays.
I cant believe that so many on here cant spot the B.S.
Where have you got this figure £400 a day from ???
Mick Kents post on the previous page 20 £20 properties
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If £400 a day in 5 easy hours is your reality of window cleaning mick then fair play to you , but trust me , despite what everyone claims on here , its a very small minority knocking them figures out consistently , and definitely not in 5 easy hours a day
I would gamble everything I own that there aren't any on a domestic run, some might do it once in a while with the right job
like working in a millionaires gated property, but most guys on big money make it through employing.
Put it this way if that was the sort of money to be made would there be any available properties left for new starts I think not.
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But as we all know mick is not only the canvassing God of the uk he earns £180 p/h cleaning
Quote mick Kent
Whats the point doing a £25 house then pack away to drive 5 mins away to do another £25 houses when you can do 6 £10 fronts all in same road from 1 spot taking less than 20 mins??.
Face it Sean, were no match for this stud muffin of the window cleaning world
Darran
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But as we all know mick is not only the canvassing God of the uk he earns £180 p/h cleaning
Quote mick Kent
Whats the point doing a £25 house then pack away to drive 5 mins away to do another £25 houses when you can do 6 £10 fronts all in same road from 1 spot taking less than 20 mins??.
Face it Sean, were no match for this stud muffin of the window cleaning world
Darran
Im surprised he convinces row after row of people there back windows arent worth cleaning
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But he does !!
And who are we to argue or doubt such great results...
If your happy with your prices and work it does not matter a flying fig what others do or claim.
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I would gamble everything I own that there aren't any on a domestic run, some might do it once in a while with the right job
like working in a millionaires gated property, but most guys on big money make it through employing.
Put it this way if that was the sort of money to be made would there be any available properties left for new starts I think not.
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I reckon if you had been in business long enough in the right area then some guys may be getting close , and definitely with help, staff , id be wanting close to that but then that isnt the same is it ?.. But it really isnt the reality of window cleaning for 99.9% in the uk !
If you are doing £200 day in and out week in and out id be impressed ! Thats much more likely and where people should probably be looking as a realistic aim if they aren't already there, working alone, sure you can do more on days , but as an average i bet theres still not many doing that, and none declaring it to the taxman haha
Trouble on here is people arent realistic , they have one good day a month where they earn super dooper money and forget all the days they do £80 because they started late and then it rained or they just couldnt be bothered
or where they underpriced and havent put them up yet but still have to clean them as they dont have enough work to turn it down and need the money so can only do £20 an hr that day
Im sure someone will come along now and laugh at the idea of £200 a day being small change and you shouldnt get out of bed for less than £300 , but ive been in this game long enough now to know the truth , and i dont know personally any window cleaner on his own doing anymore than that , most are averaging half or less
... i had that much work on my books once but due to my own poor ethic and alot of it being hard work i never often got round in 4 weeks, now i have less due to culling and my hourly rate is much higher but i need more work now
Dont pay much attention to the b£$llocks on here if you are new , just set yourself an hourly rate/day rate you think is achievable and go for it consistently
I know theres a few people who are the exception to the rule but i reckon im on the money when it comes to sole traders
Obviously i dont include Mick as he is smashing that before dinner :)
PS sorry to original poster , as the thread has been de railed ... the original idea of showing how much you charge is good , it just annoys me reading some of the rubbish about days earnings
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Why do some on here get so worked up when someone claims to be running a successful profit making business? We are running businesses you know, not just giving ourselves a job!! Do you need to be qualified to clean windows.... No you don't, but neither did my brother in law need any qualifications to set up and run his mobile phone business, but that didn't stop him from becoming a multi millionaire from doing it!! Don't just assume that because someone claims to be doing something better, and more profitably than you that they must be lying, let's.try to learn from one another, this game is a business and we need to do it as profitably as possible IMO!
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yeh true ... i get that theres a north south difference but i dont think its as pronounced as everyone thinks as theres affluent areas everywhere ... I get the same prices in affluent areas as i do in Oldham where i live
How you can justify anymore than £15, £20 max if its in some gold plated estate? for that first house ? 10 windows and 2 doors?
If your pricing was more realistic alot of you would have more compact work and save money not driving huge distances between the mugs paying you these ridiculous sums !
Cleaning £400 a day is only 20x£20 houses or 30x£15 houses.
Guys who have full rounds who havnt shy'd away from price rising should be able to hit decent numbers if working a full day! If working at a normal steady lace of 4 houses an hour then thats 5 hours to clean £400, Even if slow doing 3 houses an hour at £20 a house in 7 hours thats £420.
Maybe not everyday due to weather but when its a clear normal day i think everyone of us are capable of cleaning 20 plus normal sized houses a day so if you have half decent prices then it is quite doable.
You are right Mick, we have disagreed on here before, but we are singing from the same hymn sheet here! But I don't think that anyone can hit these kind of figures, you have to have the right mindset, you have to be prepared to price right and stick to it, and you have to be capable of working very hard and efficiently all day everyday, and of most importantly you need to be very good at time management! Most would not be prepared to work hard enough and make the sacrifices necessary to achieve this kind of profit, let alone have the level of fitness required to carry it out! I know because I have had quite a lot of people work for me, and nobody has ever been able to come close to keeping up with me, and most have only lasted a week or so! So tonight I am raising a glass to the motivated super fit hard working window cleaners of this world like Mick Kent and me!! ;D
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yeh true ... i get that theres a north south difference but i dont think its as pronounced as everyone thinks as theres affluent areas everywhere ... I get the same prices in affluent areas as i do in Oldham where i live
How you can justify anymore than £15, £20 max if its in some gold plated estate? for that first house ? 10 windows and 2 doors?
If your pricing was more realistic alot of you would have more compact work and save money not driving huge distances between the mugs paying you these ridiculous sums !
Cleaning £400 a day is only 20x£20 houses or 30x£15 houses.
Guys who have full rounds who havnt shy'd away from price rising should be able to hit decent numbers if working a full day! If working at a normal steady lace of 4 houses an hour then thats 5 hours to clean £400, Even if slow doing 3 houses an hour at £20 a house in 7 hours thats £420.
Maybe not everyday due to weather but when its a clear normal day i think everyone of us are capable of cleaning 20 plus normal sized houses a day so if you have half decent prices then it is quite doable.
You are right Mick, we have disagreed on here before, but we are singing from the same hymn sheet here! But I don't think that anyone can hit these kind of figures, you have to have the right mindset, you have to be prepared to price right and stick to it, and you have to be capable of working very hard and efficiently all day everyday, and of most importantly you need to be very good at time management! Most would not be prepared to work hard enough and make the sacrifices necessary to achieve this kind of profit, let alone have the level of fitness required to carry it out! I know because I have had quite a lot of people work for me, and nobody has ever been able to come close to keeping up with me, and most have only lasted a week or so! So tonight I am raising a glass to the motivated super fit hard working window cleaners of this world like Mick Kent and me!! ;D
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I have never said it isn't doable..
I agree with you
I just don't think it's the reality for the majority ! Where have I said it's not possible!?
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If £400 a day in 5 easy hours is your reality of window cleaning mick then fair play to you , but trust me , despite what everyone claims on here , its a very small minority knocking them figures out consistently , and definitely not in 5 easy hours a day
I would gamble everything I own that there aren't any on a domestic run, some might do it once in a while with the right job
like working in a millionaires gated property, but most guys on big money make it through employing.
Put it this way if that was the sort of money to be made would there be any available properties left for new starts I think not.
Sean, when I started I bumped into a window cleaner like you and he said to me, "no one's ever going to pay more than a fiver to clean that". You remind me of him. I charge 4x that for similar properties.
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I would gamble everything I own that there aren't any on a domestic run, some might do it once in a while with the right job
like working in a millionaires gated property, but most guys on big money make it through employing.
Put it this way if that was the sort of money to be made would there be any available properties left for new starts I think not.
I reckon if you had been in business long enough in the right area then some guys may be getting close , and definitely with help, staff , id be wanting close to that but then that isnt the same is it ?.. But it really isnt the reality of window cleaning for 99.9% in the uk !
If you are doing £200 day in and out week in and out id be impressed ! Thats much more likely and where people should probably be looking as a realistic aim if they aren't already there, working alone, sure you can do more on days , but as an average i bet theres still not many doing that, and none declaring it to the taxman haha
Trouble on here is people arent realistic , they have one good day a month where they earn super dooper money and forget all the days they do £80 because they started late and then it rained or they just couldnt be bothered
or where they underpriced and havent put them up yet but still have to clean them as they dont have enough work to turn it down and need the money so can only do £20 an hr that day
Im sure someone will come along now and laugh at the idea of £200 a day being small change and you shouldnt get out of bed for less than £300 , but ive been in this game long enough now to know the truth , and i dont know personally any window cleaner on his own doing anymore than that , most are averaging half or less
... i had that much work on my books once but due to my own poor ethic and alot of it being hard work i never often got round in 4 weeks, now i have less due to culling and my hourly rate is much higher but i need more work now
Dont pay much attention to the b£$llocks on here if you are new , just set yourself an hourly rate/day rate you think is achievable and go for it consistently
I know theres a few people who are the exception to the rule but i reckon im on the money when it comes to sole traders
Obviously i dont include Mick as he is smashing that before dinner :)
PS sorry to original poster , as the thread has been de railed ... the original idea of showing how much you charge is good , it just annoys me reading some of the rubbish about days earnings
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Great post. A lot of cleaners get confused with average day and best day.
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I have never said it isn't doable..
I agree with you
I just don't think it's the reality for the majority ! Where have I said it's not possible!?
Absolutely! It is definitely not the reality for the majority! But don't knock the guys who are capable of this kind of achievement, instead be thankful that they take the time time to post on here, and try to learn something from them!
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If £400 a day in 5 easy hours is your reality of window cleaning mick then fair play to you , but trust me , despite what everyone claims on here , its a very small minority knocking them figures out consistently , and definitely not in 5 easy hours a day
I would gamble everything I own that there aren't any on a domestic run, some might do it once in a while with the right job
like working in a millionaires gated property, but most guys on big money make it through employing.
Put it this way if that was the sort of money to be made would there be any available properties left for new starts I think not.
Sean, when I started I bumped into a window cleaner like you and he said to me, "no one's ever going to pay more than a fiver to clean that". You remind me of him. I charge 4x that for similar properties.
Why is he like me ? have I said what anybody can get or charge per property ? its no on both counts, but what I can do is
look at a post and see when it doesn't add up.
There's a lot of difference in thinking that somebody cant get more than £5 for a property than thinking its the norm to
make £400 a day cleaning windows working on your own.
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yeh true ... i get that theres a north south difference but i dont think its as pronounced as everyone thinks as theres affluent areas everywhere ... I get the same prices in affluent areas as i do in Oldham where i live
How you can justify anymore than £15, £20 max if its in some gold plated estate? for that first house ? 10 windows and 2 doors?
If your pricing was more realistic alot of you would have more compact work and save money not driving huge distances between the mugs paying you these ridiculous sums !
Cleaning £400 a day is only 20x£20 houses or 30x£15 houses.
Guys who have full rounds who havnt shy'd away from price rising should be able to hit decent numbers if working a full day! If working at a normal steady lace of 4 houses an hour then thats 5 hours to clean £400, Even if slow doing 3 houses an hour at £20 a house in 7 hours thats £420.
Maybe not everyday due to weather but when its a clear normal day i think everyone of us are capable of cleaning 20 plus normal sized houses a day so if you have half decent prices then it is quite doable.
You are right Mick, we have disagreed on here before, but we are singing from the same hymn sheet here! But I don't think that anyone can hit these kind of figures, you have to have the right mindset, you have to be prepared to price right and stick to it, and you have to be capable of working very hard and efficiently all day everyday, and of most importantly you need to be very good at time management! Most would not be prepared to work hard enough and make the sacrifices necessary to achieve this kind of profit, let alone have the level of fitness required to carry it out! I know because I have had quite a lot of people work for me, and nobody has ever been able to come close to keeping up with me, and most have only lasted a week or so! So tonight I am raising a glass to the motivated super fit hard working window cleaners of this world like Mick Kent and me!! ;D
Make your mind up who you are talking to hoggy, it was mick hay not long back ;D
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I would gamble everything I own that there aren't any on a domestic run, some might do it once in a while with the right job
like working in a millionaires gated property, but most guys on big money make it through employing.
Put it this way if that was the sort of money to be made would there be any available properties left for new starts I think not.
I reckon if you had been in business long enough in the right area then some guys may be getting close , and definitely with help, staff , id be wanting close to that but then that isnt the same is it ?.. But it really isnt the reality of window cleaning for 99.9% in the uk !
If you are doing £200 day in and out week in and out id be impressed ! Thats much more likely and where people should probably be looking as a realistic aim if they aren't already there, working alone, sure you can do more on days , but as an average i bet theres still not many doing that, and none declaring it to the taxman haha
Trouble on here is people arent realistic , they have one good day a month where they earn super dooper money and forget all the days they do £80 because they started late and then it rained or they just couldnt be bothered
or where they underpriced and havent put them up yet but still have to clean them as they dont have enough work to turn it down and need the money so can only do £20 an hr that day
Im sure someone will come along now and laugh at the idea of £200 a day being small change and you shouldnt get out of bed for less than £300 , but ive been in this game long enough now to know the truth , and i dont know personally any window cleaner on his own doing anymore than that , most are averaging half or less
... i had that much work on my books once but due to my own poor ethic and alot of it being hard work i never often got round in 4 weeks, now i have less due to culling and my hourly rate is much higher but i need more work now
Dont pay much attention to the b£$llocks on here if you are new , just set yourself an hourly rate/day rate you think is achievable and go for it consistently
I know theres a few people who are the exception to the rule but i reckon im on the money when it comes to sole traders
Obviously i dont include Mick as he is smashing that before dinner :)
PS sorry to original poster , as the thread has been de railed ... the original idea of showing how much you charge is good , it just annoys me reading some of the rubbish about days earnings
Great post. A lot of cleaners get confused with average day and best day.
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bloody hell PureI didn't know you could concentrate long enough to write
such a long post ;D
Decent read though :)
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I have never said it isn't doable..
I agree with you
I just don't think it's the reality for the majority ! Where have I said it's not possible!?
Absolutely! It is definitely not the reality for the majority! But don't knock the guys who are capable of this kind of achievement, instead be thankful that they take the time time to post on here, and try to learn something from them!
Be thankful for what ? that some guy who happens to work in an affluent area has come on here and boasted that he has achieved
something that's not achievable by the majority.
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I have never said it isn't doable..
I agree with you
I just don't think it's the reality for the majority ! Where have I said it's not possible!?
Absolutely! It is definitely not the reality for the majority! But don't knock the guys who are capable of this kind of achievement, instead be thankful that they take the time time to post on here, and try to learn something from them!
In the first two lines of my post i said that anyone doing this job for long enough in the right area could get close to the figures thrown about
So im sure you may be one of them
i was just trying to bring some reality to a thread that has lacked it :) everybody shouts how much theyve done on a big day but no one ever really admits the reality for most joe bloggs window cleaners , and you can come off here sometimes thinking you are the only one who isnt a window cleaning millionnaire :)
Also in your post you were saying none of your employees lasted longer than a week trying to keep up with you, they wont ! Its not in there interest - its your business not theres, if your way of earning is to be super fit and move extremely quick all day you will be the only one who can do that and who wants to do that , and it wont be sustainable ie you will get old and tired :)
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I would gamble everything I own that there aren't any on a domestic run, some might do it once in a while with the right job
like working in a millionaires gated property, but most guys on big money make it through employing.
Put it this way if that was the sort of money to be made would there be any available properties left for new starts I think not.
I reckon if you had been in business long enough in the right area then some guys may be getting close , and definitely with help, staff , id be wanting close to that but then that isnt the same is it ?.. But it really isnt the reality of window cleaning for 99.9% in the uk !
If you are doing £200 day in and out week in and out id be impressed ! Thats much more likely and where people should probably be looking as a realistic aim if they aren't already there, working alone, sure you can do more on days , but as an average i bet theres still not many doing that, and none declaring it to the taxman haha
Trouble on here is people arent realistic , they have one good day a month where they earn super dooper money and forget all the days they do £80 because they started late and then it rained or they just couldnt be bothered
or where they underpriced and havent put them up yet but still have to clean them as they dont have enough work to turn it down and need the money so can only do £20 an hr that day
Im sure someone will come along now and laugh at the idea of £200 a day being small change and you shouldnt get out of bed for less than £300 , but ive been in this game long enough now to know the truth , and i dont know personally any window cleaner on his own doing anymore than that , most are averaging half or less
... i had that much work on my books once but due to my own poor ethic and alot of it being hard work i never often got round in 4 weeks, now i have less due to culling and my hourly rate is much higher but i need more work now
Dont pay much attention to the b£$llocks on here if you are new , just set yourself an hourly rate/day rate you think is achievable and go for it consistently
I know theres a few people who are the exception to the rule but i reckon im on the money when it comes to sole traders
Obviously i dont include Mick as he is smashing that before dinner :)
PS sorry to original poster , as the thread has been de railed ... the original idea of showing how much you charge is good , it just annoys me reading some of the rubbish about days earnings
Great post. A lot of cleaners get confused with average day and best day.
bloody hell PureI didn't know you could concentrate long enough to write
such a long post ;D
Decent read though :)
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LMAO. SEAN wrote the long reply. I did two lines at the bottom :p
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Quotes are not working for me ???
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And there was me giving you credit ;D
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yeh true ... i get that theres a north south difference but i dont think its as pronounced as everyone thinks as theres affluent areas everywhere ... I get the same prices in affluent areas as i do in Oldham where i live
How you can justify anymore than £15, £20 max if its in some gold plated estate? for that first house ? 10 windows and 2 doors?
If your pricing was more realistic alot of you would have more compact work and save money not driving huge distances between the mugs paying you these ridiculous sums !
Cleaning £400 a day is only 20x£20 houses or 30x£15 houses.
Guys who have full rounds who havnt shy'd away from price rising should be able to hit decent numbers if working a full day! If working at a normal steady lace of 4 houses an hour then thats 5 hours to clean £400, Even if slow doing 3 houses an hour at £20 a house in 7 hours thats £420.
Maybe not everyday due to weather but when its a clear normal day i think everyone of us are capable of cleaning 20 plus normal sized houses a day so if you have half decent prices then it is quite doable.
You are right Mick, we have disagreed on here before, but we are singing from the same hymn sheet here! But I don't think that anyone can hit these kind of figures, you have to have the right mindset, you have to be prepared to price right and stick to it, and you have to be capable of working very hard and efficiently all day everyday, and of most importantly you need to be very good at time management! Most would not be prepared to work hard enough and make the sacrifices necessary to achieve this kind of profit, let alone have the level of fitness required to carry it out! I know because I have had quite a lot of people work for me, and nobody has ever been able to come close to keeping up with me, and most have only lasted a week or so! So tonight I am raising a glass to the motivated super fit hard working window cleaners of this world like Mick Kent and me!! ;D
Mick kents built like a pregnant walrus, he aint fit lol
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I didnt wanna mention that as ive never met the guy but im sure he said at some point he was about 18 stone
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Wow lads lets get this straight i dont clean £400 a day, id have the raving hump if i only managed that, i clean more £600/£650 a day, i was speaking about the joe average window cleaners out there.
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Wow lads lets get this straight i dont clean £400 a day, id have the raving hump if i only managed that, i clean more £600/£650 a day, i was speaking about the joe average window cleaners out there.
You'll have the Seans choking on their bread and dripping. ;D
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And no being a realist i dont clean £400 a day as i only normaly work 9-3! I give myself 30 fronts a day to clean, sometimes more if im playing catchup but rarely less.
You dont have to be fit to manage an easy to run business. Anyway yes im 17stone but at 6ft2 it sits okish lol.
Not sure why some are trying to make me out to be a billy bull as i have worked extreamly hard to get things how i have by following my strict business plan, i used to have a poor priced uncompact business which i sold off and restarted from scratch 3 years ago.
Now watch this space and see how quick i can get a full to the brim commercial round up and running as have all my plan of action set in place.
Im a do'er and not a thinker.
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Wow lads lets get this straight i dont clean £400 a day, id have the raving hump if i only managed that, i clean more £600/£650 a day, i was speaking about the joe average window cleaners out there.
You'll have the Seans choking on their bread and dripping. ;D
Lol i know.
Makes me laugh how when you say how easy things can be done if you set your mind to it, the lazy negative folks always try to put you down.
I have gone from being in mega debt not affording my bills or anything driving an old banger which was t roadworthy getting stressed out from work and taking loads of time off getting depressed where i was going round and round in a skint viscious circle not getting anywhere! And now to no debt, a happy family, a happy life and i drive my dream car. Im not trying to make out im the best thing since sliced bread, im nust saying that it is possible to do well out of this game if you put your all into it being positive making things happen.
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How much do your employees knock out in a day Mick ?
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Wow lads lets get this straight i dont clean £400 a day, id have the raving hump if i only managed that, i clean more £600/£650 a day, i was speaking about the joe average window cleaners out there.
You'll have the Seans choking on their bread and dripping. ;D
Lol i know.
Makes me laugh how when you say how easy things can be done if you set your mind to it, the lazy negative folks always try to put you down.
I have gone from being in mega debt not affording my bills or anything driving an old banger which was t roadworthy getting stressed out from work and taking loads of time off getting depressed where i was going round and round in a skint viscious circle not getting anywhere! And now to no debt, a happy family, a happy life and i drive my dream car. Im not trying to make out im the best thing since sliced bread, im nust saying that it is possible to do well out of this game if you put your all into it being positive making things happen.
I thought you had a Range Rover? ??? ;D
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Wow lads lets get this straight i dont clean £400 a day, id have the raving hump if i only managed that, i clean more £600/£650 a day, i was speaking about the joe average window cleaners out there.
You'll have the Seans choking on their bread and dripping. ;D
Lol i know.
Makes me laugh how when you say how easy things can be done if you set your mind to it, the lazy negative folks always try to put you down.
I have gone from being in mega debt not affording my bills or anything driving an old banger which was t roadworthy getting stressed out from work and taking loads of time off getting depressed where i was going round and round in a skint viscious circle not getting anywhere! And now to no debt, a happy family, a happy life and i drive my dream car. Im not trying to make out im the best thing since sliced bread, im nust saying that it is possible to do well out of this game if you put your all into it being positive making things happen.
I was joking btw mate lol you have done very well, fair play to ya. I have taken alot of your advice about canvassin and sold boards and it has worked well. I should have built a similair sized round as you in a similair amount of time if things keep going as they are. Then it will be my turn to get called the billy bull pooher lol
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Rereading the thread and remembering lee Pryor prices for window cleaning.
I think it's probably possible to get some of the prices quoted in Surrey area.
House no1. If you gave that price in say Nottinghamshire there is no way they would accept. I speak to about 3 people almost daily who clean in and around notts and the prices are lower than mine. Well a lot lower.
I just find it weird that if you put your all into it users are saying you can achieve £400 a day on your own. I work in beds and bucks and even speaking to some bull poopters not one of them has ever said £400. One trad guy tells me he does £200 a day and is on a £100 by 12pm which sounds ok until his ex wife told me the real story. Living in a world of make believe.
Doing £200 -£250 day in. Day out. Day in. Day out. Is a mean task in itself.
Doing £400 EVERY day on your own. I would say less than 5% achieve this. Not saying it's impossible. But you need the best area to work in.
People tell me it's hard up north window cleaning. So if they are doing semis for say £7/8 I want £12/15 Surrey is £20-£30. I don't see how it's possible. Even with PMA. You ain't gonna get £25 for a semi in Scotland.
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Only one person has put were there from, the question has not been answered
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30 fronts a day at £10 is not £650 mick
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It not hard to earn an above average wage cleaning up north, o.k. you might not be able to charge as much
per property as you would in some areas in the south but charging is only one small part to building a profitable
business.
Its every bit as easy to build a very profitable window cleaning business in the north as it is in the south or any other part of the U.K.
Fair enough you might have to employ 5 people in the north to make the same as you would with 4 in the south
buts that hardly going to defeat you is it.
The boasters on here only use the fact that they work in the south as a way of making their boasting sound more
realistic.
Any successful business will come across things like competition, saturated areas, employing, problem solving as so forth but ask them about issues like this and you get nothing.
Mick Kent talks about his great money earning fronts but If I worked in his area he wouldn't have them, whys that
you ask ? simple I would find a way to clean the backs and offer it to his customers. ( Problem solving )
When I started up I was told by a business advisor (mate) not to bother as the area where I was planning to work in
was saturated.
But I offered something that the other guys didn't and that was to clean the frames and doors, simple and it worked.
Now if I want to get very wealthy from window cleaning all I need to do is get more customers and employ 5 people. if I
want to get supper wealthy I just need to keep on getting more customers and employ more.
Well I also need to find a way of keeping these storms from the U.K. horrendous weather here at the minute
I honestly don't think even Dazmond could handle it.
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30 fronts a day at £10 is not £650 mick
Mate i was taking the p.
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It not hard to earn an above average wage cleaning up north, o.k. you might not be able to charge as much
per property as you would in some areas in the south but charging is only one small part to building a profitable
business.
Its every bit as easy to build a very profitable window cleaning business in the north as it is in the south or any other part of the U.K.
Fair enough you might have to employ 5 people in the north to make the same as you would with 4 in the south
buts that hardly going to defeat you is it.
The boasters on here only use the fact that they work in the south as a way of making their boasting sound more
realistic.
Any successful business will come across things like competition, saturated areas, employing, problem solving as so forth but ask them about issues like this and you get nothing.
Mick Kent talks about his great money earning fronts but If I worked in his area he wouldn't have them, whys that
you ask ? simple I would find a way to clean the backs and offer it to his customers. ( Problem solving )
When I started up I was told by a business advisor (mate) not to bother as the area where I was planning to work in
was saturated.
But I offered something that the other guys didn't and that was to clean the frames and doors, simple and it worked.
Now if I want to get very wealthy from window cleaning all I need to do is get more customers and employ 5 people. if I
want to get supper wealthy I just need to keep on getting more customers and employ more.
Well I also need to find a way of keeping these storms from the U.K. horrendous weather here at the minute
I honestly don't think even Dazmond could handle it.
How many do you employ now?
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None that's why I said if I want to get wealthy (or what others would class as wealthy) I need to employ, but don't
get me wrong I spent 18 years working as a sheet metal worker or fabrication engineer as I like to call it. ;D
I then went on to do CNC machining in a factory and to be honest I'm as well off if not better cleaning windows
even though both off my previous jobs where fairly well paid.
The thing is on here if you don't agree with the boasters then you mustn't believe its possible to make a good
living cleaning windows or your mustn't have the belief or confidence to succeed.
I disagree with these types on here because their stories just don't add up not because I believe its impossible to earn
large in the window cleaning business.
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It not hard to earn an above average wage cleaning up north, o.k. you might not be able to charge as much
per property as you would in some areas in the south but charging is only one small part to building a profitable
business.
Its every bit as easy to build a very profitable window cleaning business in the north as it is in the south or any other part of the U.K.
Fair enough you might have to employ 5 people in the north to make the same as you would with 4 in the south
buts that hardly going to defeat you is it.
The boasters on here only use the fact that they work in the south as a way of making their boasting sound more
realistic.
Any successful business will come across things like competition, saturated areas, employing, problem solving as so forth but ask them about issues like this and you get nothing.
Mick Kent talks about his great money earning fronts but If I worked in his area he wouldn't have them, whys that
you ask ? simple I would find a way to clean the backs and offer it to his customers. ( Problem solving )
When I started up I was told by a business advisor (mate) not to bother as the area where I was planning to work in
was saturated.
But I offered something that the other guys didn't and that was to clean the frames and doors, simple and it worked.
Now if I want to get very wealthy from window cleaning all I need to do is get more customers and employ 5 people. if I
want to get supper wealthy I just need to keep on getting more customers and employ more.
Well I also need to find a way of keeping these storms from the U.K. horrendous weather here at the minute
I honestly don't think even Dazmond could handle it.
Not read all of this thread but I would have thought its easier to build a business in the north .... less 1 offs and messing with fort know gates
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SeanK - what maching did you do?
Darran
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SeanK - what maching did you do?
Darran
CNC lathes, making parts for vehicle engines.