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Title: Sick pay
Post by: steve rix on October 01, 2014, 01:31:39 pm
Just had shock. One of my employees broke his finger playing cricket at the end of July. Not a bad break easily pinned. He was off work for 11 WEEKS. This was bad enough but just found out I have to pay his sick pay, not the government. What the hell are people pay NI for? The next time some gets hurt out side of work he will get the sack!
Title: Re: Sick pay
Post by: Dave Willis on October 01, 2014, 03:53:00 pm
Howzatt ???
Title: Re: Sick pay
Post by: Perfect Windows on October 01, 2014, 04:32:48 pm
The next time some gets hurt out side of work he will get the sack!

Good luck with the tribunal.

Will you be doing the same next time someone catches a cold when not at work?

Vin
Title: Re: Sick pay
Post by: KS Cleaning on October 01, 2014, 05:25:31 pm
Just had shock. One of my employees broke his finger playing cricket at the end of July. Not a bad break easily pinned. He was off work for 11 WEEKS. This was bad enough but just found out I have to pay his sick pay, not the government. What the hell are people pay NI for? The next time some gets hurt out side of work he will get the sack!
Yep this happened to me too, employee dislocated his shoulder playing football. If your employee has been off work since July how has it taken 11 weeks to realise it is you that has to pay the sick pay?  Think it was £82.50 per week I had to pay, so if you are the same it will be £825 you have to pay :'(
Title: Re: Sick pay
Post by: Ian101 on October 01, 2014, 06:19:01 pm
I no longer employ but was under illusion any sick pay you payout is offset against the PAYE you collect for the government ......... also not sure if true but you can just tell them to go to DSS to claim their sick pay ??
Title: Re: Sick pay
Post by: Smudger on October 01, 2014, 06:26:34 pm
That's all changed mate, down to us little guys to pay and be out of pocket, same when we have to start paying into their pension pots

Darran
Title: Re: Sick pay
Post by: mick hay on October 01, 2014, 06:37:25 pm
I need to employ, but this is one of the reasons that makes me think twice....

Can be expensive to employ  >:(
Title: Re: Sick pay
Post by: britishwill on October 01, 2014, 08:36:11 pm
You claim it back off the gov!
Title: Re: Sick pay
Post by: steve rix on October 01, 2014, 08:42:14 pm
You claim it back off the gov!
Not according to my accontant. The rules changed in April 2014.
But how can it be fair if someone gets hurt laying sport and we have to pay??
Title: Re: Sick pay
Post by: Perfect Windows on October 01, 2014, 08:57:52 pm
Just had shock. One of my employees broke his finger playing cricket at the end of July. Not a bad break easily pinned. He was off work for 11 WEEKS. This was bad enough but just found out I have to pay his sick pay, not the government. What the hell are people pay NI for? The next time some gets hurt out side of work he will get the sack!

Did he tell you in time?

"The employee should tell you they’re sick within your own time limit (or 7 days if you don’t have one). You don’t have to pay Statutory Sick Pay if they don’t meet these time limits. "

From https://www.gov.uk/employers-sick-pay/notice-and-fit-notes

Vin
Title: Re: Sick pay
Post by: CleanClear on October 01, 2014, 09:10:14 pm
Can someone clarify for me.........if you have an employee on a short hours contract and their pay is below the £108 (threshold), then sick pay is not payable by the employer?
Title: Re: Sick pay
Post by: Smudger on October 01, 2014, 10:00:25 pm
here cleanclear

https://www.gov.uk/employers-sick-pay/eligibility-and-form-ssp1

mrs smudger
Title: Re: Sick pay
Post by: windowswashed on October 01, 2014, 10:46:36 pm
Go insolvent  ;D

If working as a busy fool on ok-ish average prices and contemplating whether to employ someone either pick your best priced work, sell the rest and work solo: or take the plunge and a chance on employing a healthy employee who isn't a lazy git beating the benefit system.
Title: Re: Sick pay
Post by: dave0123 on October 01, 2014, 11:18:07 pm
This is a law they changed in 2014 to make employees pay! they slipped it quite quietly!!
Title: Re: Sick pay
Post by: G Griffin on October 01, 2014, 11:32:27 pm
You claim it back off the gov!
Not according to my accontant. The rules changed in April 2014.
But how can it be fair if someone gets hurt laying sport and we have to pay??
That's right, you shouldn't have to bail him out.
Title: Re: Sick pay
Post by: G Griffin on October 01, 2014, 11:38:42 pm
Just had shock. One of my employees broke his finger playing cricket at the end of July. Not a bad break easily pinned. He was off work for 11 WEEKS. This was bad enough but just found out I have to pay his sick pay, not the government. What the hell are people pay NI for? The next time some gets hurt out side of work he will get the sack!
Yep this happened to me too, employee dislocated his shoulder playing football. If your employee has been off work since July how has it taken 11 weeks to realise it is you that has to pay the sick pay?  Think it was £82.50 per week I had to pay, so if you are the same it will be £825 you have to pay :'(
True, man. You did Warne us.
Title: Re: Sick pay
Post by: Ian Lancaster on October 02, 2014, 12:06:40 am
All that hassle!  All that expense!!

Why do you put yourselves through it?
Title: Re: Sick pay
Post by: Dave Willis on October 02, 2014, 07:35:57 am
It's just not cricket.
Title: Re: Sick pay
Post by: Ian101 on October 02, 2014, 08:10:37 am
That's all changed mate, down to us little guys to pay and be out of pocket, same when we have to start paying into their pension pots

Darran

they slipped that one in quietly
Title: Re: Sick pay
Post by: sunshine windows on October 02, 2014, 03:12:56 pm
Looks like he's been caught out by this one and his employee has him by his googlies