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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Hard Floor Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: cleantech on September 25, 2014, 09:09:10 pm

Title: marble polishing problem
Post by: cleantech on September 25, 2014, 09:09:10 pm
i used this product today. http://www.diverseydirect.co.uk/product-30072.html
got it with the new kgs flexis. used the 4 stages with the pads as instructed and got a good result.
when it came to the powder i mixed 200 grams with 100 mils of water as instructed. applied it to the floor and polished away with my rotary..all looking good until i see these marks that looked like etching where i applied the lined of the terrastar. had to go back to stage 1 on the flexis to remove then go through the other 3 steps again. it etched again the second time applied ??? ??? what just happened what did i do wrong
Title: Re: marble polishing problem
Post by: Tadgh O Shea on September 25, 2014, 09:28:26 pm
i used this product today. http://www.diverseydirect.co.uk/product-30072.html
got it with the new kgs flexis. used the 4 stages with the pads as instructed and got a good result.
when it came to the powder i mixed 200 grams with 100 mils of water as instructed. applied it to the floor and polished away with my rotary..all looking good until i see these marks that looked like etching where i applied the lined of the terrastar. had to go back to stage 1 on the flexis to remove then go through the other 3 steps again. it etched again the second time applied ??? ??? what just happened what did i do wrong
Hi William, i would recommend that you give this guy a call Eddie from Marble Rescue as he is not far from you (086 1920900) have seen him work miracles on damaged floors, trust me this guy really knows his stuff, and he is very obliging.     Regards Tadgh
Title: Re: marble polishing problem
Post by: cleantech on September 25, 2014, 09:43:13 pm
thanks Tadgh. i know eddie is the man. it was the product that was applied as instructed did the damage. lucky for me i removed it with my my machine and pad. just looking for an explanation as to why it happened.

william
Title: Re: marble polishing problem
Post by: Jamie Pearson on September 27, 2014, 05:36:49 pm
Is it possible you let the mix dry too much and thicken like a cream?
Title: Re: marble polishing problem
Post by: cleantech on September 28, 2014, 10:48:36 am
Hi Jamie,
No the floor was wetted out completely I mixed as instructed 200 grams to 100 mills. It was liquid really more so than a cream
Title: Re: marble polishing problem
Post by: Jamie Pearson on September 29, 2014, 11:28:23 am
I havent used the powder you mention but have only ever had etching problems when floors have dried out during the process, has been left too long before vacuuming the slurry or the guys havent rinsed well enough before final rinse mopping..
Title: Re: marble polishing problem
Post by: cleantech on September 30, 2014, 08:43:08 am
Ok thanks Jamie I do appreciate your input

William
Title: Re: marble polishing problem
Post by: Kev Martin on September 30, 2014, 03:15:50 pm
i used this product today. http://www.diverseydirect.co.uk/product-30072.html
got it with the new kgs flexis. used the 4 stages with the pads as instructed and got a good result.
when it came to the powder i mixed 200 grams with 100 mils of water as instructed. applied it to the floor and polished away with my rotary..all looking good until i see these marks that looked like etching where i applied the lined of the terrastar. had to go back to stage 1 on the flexis to remove then go through the other 3 steps again. it etched again the second time applied ??? ??? what just happened what did i do wrong

William

The product you mentioned is an Oxalic Acid Based Crystallization Powder which also contains sulphur, alcohol and aluminium oxides.  I have never used it but essentially when you use these type of products on someones floor you have to be very careful.  From your description it looks like you either overpolished or that the powder was very hot (Acid hot).   You may have needed to either reduce your polishing time or even create a water barrier to prevent etching whilst using the powder.  You were lucky to have got it off with the pads because with most of those type of crystallizers you need to diamond grind it to get it off.  Why not ring Eddie whom Tadgh recommends and get him to talk you through the method of polishing with this type of powder along with the potential hazards?

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics Ltd
Title: Re: marble polishing problem
Post by: Tadgh O Shea on September 30, 2014, 11:53:46 pm
i used this product today. http://www.diverseydirect.co.uk/product-30072.html
got it with the new kgs flexis. used the 4 stages with the pads as instructed and got a good result.
when it came to the powder i mixed 200 grams with 100 mils of water as instructed. applied it to the floor and polished away with my rotary..all looking good until i see these marks that looked like etching where i applied the lined of the terrastar. had to go back to stage 1 on the flexis to remove then go through the other 3 steps again. it etched again the second time applied ??? ??? what just happened what did i do wrong

William

The product you mentioned is an Oxalic Acid Based Crystallization Powder which also contains sulphur, alcohol and aluminium oxides.  I have never used it but essentially when you use these type of products on someones floor you have to be very careful.  From your description it looks like you either overpolished or that the powder was very hot (Acid hot).   You may have needed to either reduce your polishing time or even create a water barrier to prevent etching whilst using the powder.  You were lucky to have got it off with the pads because with most of those type of crystallizers you need to diamond grind it to get it off.  Why not ring Eddie whom Tadgh recommends and get him to talk you through the method of polishing with this type of powder along with the potential hazards?

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics Ltd
Hi Kevin, its nice of you to agree with me on Eddies expertise with these problems, just to let you know Eddie has also told me he holds you in high regard when it comes to solving hard floor restoration problems.
Title: Re: marble polishing problem
Post by: cleantech on October 09, 2014, 09:47:48 pm
Thanks Kevin, I spoke to Eddie as tadgh suggested. The instructions were to pre wet the floor as I did. The thing is this product was recommended to my by an established floor care professional. Thanks again for the info.

William