Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: LWC on September 24, 2014, 07:17:59 am
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Ive been using superlite medium mixed now and very happy with it, just gonna order a new pole and wondered what extreme brushes were like...
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It wont match scrubbing power mate, i use them when i can i guess. Your best bet is too go with the white/blue hybrid brushes :)
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I use superlite for 1st cleans and extreme for regular cleans, weight difference is unbelievable and changes the feel of any pole!!
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Extremes dont clean certain dirts on the glass. Insect poo doesnt come off with them.
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Matt do you wanna try some buddy?
Pretty much got every brush Gardiner sell in duplicates. Replacing a lot soon :)
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Xtreme black and white will clean anything its the only brush I use now for windows, the superlite is like a brick
compared to it.
No worse than any other brush for removing bird and insect poo.
They do take a bit of time to get used to when you have been using a brush with more bristles but once mastered you
will never look back.
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i use both.mainly the extremes on maintenance cleans esp if i have a lot of awkward angle windows but i agree with matt the extreme doesnt scrub as effectively on say 2 monthly work near main roads/near trees.
the gardiners super scraper helps though when using extremes ;)
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i find the superlite scrubs snail trails off quicker than the extreme for sure. :)
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The best brush is going to be the new superlite medium mixed hybrid with the lighter stock ;) ;)
Paul
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Tecbuk Hybrid all the way ;D
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Xtreme black and white will clean anything its the only brush I use now for windows,
Pick a window with a healthy splattering of insect poo. Clean it with an extreme brush, then go indoors and look at it when the sun is low in the sky once it's dried. Your insect poo will still be there, spoiling the clean, making it look like you're an amateur and encouraging the customer to look elsewhere because you haven't done your job properly.
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I had been using the xtremes for a few years and then switched back to the supalites about 3 months ago.
First thing I noticed was the weight
Second thing the scrubbing power
Third thing the elbow ache
I've just switched back to extremes unless I really need the scrubbing power. When you do high level work or a high volume of work, you need to be kind to your body.
Simon.
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Cheers guys :)
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Matt do you wanna try some buddy?
Pretty much got every brush Gardiner sell in duplicates. Replacing a lot soon :)
What an extreme? No ta. Unless they've implemented some sort of extra scrubbing power in them ;)
Thanks for the offer.
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Offer was for LWC ;)
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I've been using an extreme for over a year and not once have I needed anything else to get a windows clean.
Not lost any customers to insect poo either ;D
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I use both. Have Superlights on main CLX 18s and an Extreme on a SLX 35.
Now you certainly can tell the difference in weight. I am tempted to get another SLX, 18 this time with an Extreme. I think that would be near to the perfect pole
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Maybe the new gardiner brushes coming out will be a fix in between the two brushes now to solve both weight + scrubbing power. ::)roll
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You lot are progressively becoming more like old women
everyday ;D
The difference between brushes in weight is tiny now
when i first started i was using a 24ft universal pole with
a vikan sill brush on it anything lighter than that lot was a real
bonus.
Still got a flocked vikan sill brush use it to clean my car ;D
I personally like gardiners sill brushes,i only work up to
30ft max so the tiny weight saving for a lighter brush is pointless
to me for low level work :)
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You lot are progressively becoming more like old women
everyday ;D
The difference between brushes in weight is tiny now
when i first started i was using a 24ft universal pole with
a vikan sill brush on it anything lighter than that lot was a real
bonus.
Still got a flocked vikan sill brush use it to clean my car ;D
I personally like gardiners sill brushes,i only work up to
30ft max so the tiny weight saving for a lighter brush is pointless
to me for low level work :)
Wrong! I now use for most work an SLX18 with an Extreme brush. The difference is HOOJ!
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You lot are progressively becoming more like old women
everyday ;D
The difference between brushes in weight is tiny now
when i first started i was using a 24ft universal pole with
a vikan sill brush on it anything lighter than that lot was a real
bonus.
Still got a flocked vikan sill brush use it to clean my car ;D
I personally like gardiners sill brushes,i only work up to
30ft max so the tiny weight saving for a lighter brush is pointless
to me for low level work :)
Wrong! I now use for most work an SLX18 with an Extreme brush. The difference is HOOJ!
Thats because you are girly wearing a floral print dress matching
handbag slingbacks and a physical capability to match ;D
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when your smashing through loads of maintenance window cleaning work on a daily basis using extreme poles you gotta use extreme brushes unless the windows are very dirty.the difference is massive IMO in how you feel at the end of the day/week/month/year!
esp when cleaning awkward windows over connys/extensions,3 storey and higher. :)
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gary im a big guy.6ft 2 in and 17 stone(not fat though anymore!)work out at the gym a few times a week(bike,free weights etc) but even i know its common sense to use the best lightest equipment you can afford when your poling all day on various different properties.
no point making your working day harder is it?
i dont believe in being a cheapskate when it comes to tools for my business as it makes me far more productive and its reflected in much higher earnings over the last few years.best thing ive done for my business! :D
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gary im a big guy.6ft 2 in and 17 stone(not fat though anymore!)work out at the gym a few times a week(bike,free weights etc) but even i know its common sense to use the best lightest equipment you can afford when your poling all day on various different properties.
no point making your working day harder is it?
i dont believe in being a cheapskate when it comes to tools for my business as it makes me far more productive and its reflected in much higher earnings over the last few years.best thing ive done for my business! :D
My days are very easy generally ;)
Lighter gear makes sense especially to what we were forced to use
less than a decade ago but some of the difference in weight of these
brushes are now changing at tens of grams not hundreds and there
is only so far you can go before you lose cleaning power and you have
to increase the movement yo to make up the difference and
so increase chance of RSI injury.
Seems to counter what you are trying to achieve far as im concerned
gardiners sill brush is light enough far as im concerned and not far
off the cleaning power of the vikan sill
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gary im a big guy.6ft 2 in and 17 stone(not fat though anymore!)
You're correct. You're not fat. According to the NHS BMI Caculator you're obese. Check it out.
http://www.nhs.uk/Tools/Pages/Healthyweightcalculator.aspx
Also you're heavier than Frank Bruno when he was fighting. You advocate making your working day easier and then advocate going to the gym ?
Can you explain this juxtaposition ?
Oh, nearly forgot!! I only use extremes. And i'm not fat ;D
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What poles you got Daz?
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I use Extreme brushes but they are all poor scrubbers in my opinion. They don't touch insect poo or pollen and struggle with snail trails and are next to useless on conservatory roof cleans - particularly glass.
However, I still use them and have tried just just about every brush in the range but due to their light weight I rarely use anything else. The flocked Superlight seems to have the most power but it feels like a brick after the Extremes. Best to have one of each - Superlight and Extreme then swap when needed.
The heavy brushes are difficult to flick around the glass on a swivel - which is another reason I stick to the lightest brushes.
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gary im a big guy.6ft 2 in and 17 stone(not fat though anymore!)
You're correct. You're not fat. According to the NHS BMI Caculator you're obese. Check it out.
http://www.nhs.uk/Tools/Pages/Healthyweightcalculator.aspx
Also you're heavier than Frank Bruno when he was fighting. You advocate making your working day easier and then advocate going to the gym ?
Can you explain this juxtaposition ?
Oh, nearly forgot!! I only use extremes. And i'm not fat ;D
;D ;D ;D
muscle weighs more than fat mate
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I use Extreme brushes but they are all poor scrubbers in my opinion. They don't touch insect poo or pollen and struggle with snail trails and are next to useless on conservatory roof cleans - particularly glass.
However, I still use them and have tried just just about every brush in the range but due to their light weight I rarely use anything else. The flocked Superlight seems to have the most power but it feels like a brick after the Extremes. Best to have one of each - Superlight and Extreme then swap when needed.
The heavy brushes are difficult to flick around the glass on a swivel - which is another reason I stick to the lightest brushes.
i agree dave.the flocked supalite is great on a 90degree gooseneck for glass conny roofs,solar panels and high velux windows.for add ons like f/s/g cleans and polycarbon roofs i usually use a sill brush.
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;D ;D ;D none of the brushes we have now especially regarding
to gardiner range could remotely be considered heavy.
Bunch of old women the lot of you ;D
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gary im a big guy.6ft 2 in and 17 stone(not fat though anymore!)
You're correct. You're not fat. According to the NHS BMI Caculator you're obese. Check it out.
http://www.nhs.uk/Tools/Pages/Healthyweightcalculator.aspx
Also you're heavier than Frank Bruno when he was fighting. You advocate making your working day easier and then advocate going to the gym ?
Can you explain this juxtaposition ?
Oh, nearly forgot!! I only use extremes. And i'm not fat ;D
;D
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I use Extreme brushes but they are all poor scrubbers in my opinion. They don't touch insect poo or pollen and struggle with snail trails and are next to useless on conservatory roof cleans - particularly glass.
However, I still use them and have tried just just about every brush in the range but due to their light weight I rarely use anything else. The flocked Superlight seems to have the most power but it feels like a brick after the Extremes. Best to have one of each - Superlight and Extreme then swap when needed.
The heavy brushes are difficult to flick around the glass on a swivel - which is another reason I stick to the lightest brushes.
The thing is Dave that you struggle whatever brush you use. ;D
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Maybe the new gardiner brushes coming out will be a fix in between the two brushes now to solve both weight + scrubbing power. ::)roll
I think the above will be true. However, I've used up my black/blue Gardiner hybrid Xtreme brush and have tried the others, but the blue bristles of the hybrid brush certainly got the snail trails off quicker than all the others. Desperately needed a new brush, but didn't think the Xtremes did a good enough job on the snail trail, bee poop and stubborn bird poop.
I went off Lee Gls recommendation of the Tecbuk hybrid with boars hair in the middle,and, got to say I'm very impressed. Deals with all the above problems much more swiftly than the Xtreme. Worth the money. Bit heavier though but not hugely.