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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Neil Jones on September 16, 2014, 08:42:10 am

Title: Business banking
Post by: Neil Jones on September 16, 2014, 08:42:10 am
Who do you business bank with? Got the HSBC letter again yesterday with all their new charges in, jokers! Going to have to change.
Title: Re: Business banking
Post by: stuart_clark on September 16, 2014, 11:52:14 am
I have been with hsbc for ten years dosent cost me a penny
Title: Re: Business banking
Post by: Darran Pryce on September 16, 2014, 03:21:15 pm
I opened up a current account with Lloyd's after having a business account with NatWest. Cost me a small fortune in fees.

All free banking with current account. I pay all the lads etc no problem. 
Title: Re: Business banking
Post by: stuart_clark on September 16, 2014, 03:47:24 pm
Darren

how are you getting on with your cimex mate ?
Title: Re: Business banking
Post by: Doug Holloway on September 16, 2014, 04:34:16 pm
Hi Guys

Was with Abbey (Santander) who were O.K. and cheap but when it came to anything a bit more complex useless.

Currently with Nat West who have been good but would have serious reservations about staying if it's headquarters is in a foreign country.

Cheers

Doug

Title: Re: Business banking
Post by: clinton on September 16, 2014, 04:54:03 pm
Darran just asking can you pay business cheques through that account as well as personal..

cheers
Title: Re: Business banking
Post by: Darran Pryce on September 16, 2014, 06:33:25 pm
Darran just asking can you pay business cheques through that account as well as personal..

cheers

My business account is under my name, not my business name. Anyone giving me a cheque its is in my name.  I just draw out a wage from it weekly into another current account.

We don't get a lot of cheques, mostly BACS payments or cash. 

Doesn't/hasn't effective me getting work with large companies. 
Title: Re: Business banking
Post by: Darran Pryce on September 16, 2014, 06:35:17 pm
Darren

how are you getting on with your cimex mate ?

Spot on mate.  It save using another man to pre spray and the coverage is out of this world.

Worth its money in gold. Already got my money back 6 fold.
Title: Re: Business banking
Post by: elliott cleaning on September 16, 2014, 07:11:49 pm
Darran just asking can you pay business cheques through that account as well as personal..

cheers

My business account is under my name, not my business name. Anyone giving me a cheque its is in my name.  I just draw out a wage from it weekly into another current account.

We don't get a lot of cheques, mostly BACS payments or cash. 

Doesn't/hasn't effective me getting work with large companies. 

Why would you have your business account under your personal name and not in your business name   If the tax man ever decides to look into your business, he will trawl through it like you wouldn't believe.      Or is it just that your bank is ignorant of the fact that it is actually a business account as opposed to a personal account?

 
Title: Re: Business banking
Post by: Neil Jones on September 16, 2014, 07:43:55 pm
Stuart, how? Can't believe that.

I believe you need a separate account for business where by it is in your business name.

I'm looking for a value for money account, not one for free as someone suggested on the previous forum. I'm just not paying what HSBC are asking, just from current standing orders and paying staff it would be in excess of £10 per week I think.
Title: Re: Business banking
Post by: clinton on September 16, 2014, 09:09:26 pm
Cheers Darren that's what I thought you meant :)
Title: Re: Business banking
Post by: Darran Pryce on September 16, 2014, 09:57:29 pm
Darran just asking can you pay business cheques through that account as well as personal..

cheers

My business account is under my name, not my business name. Anyone giving me a cheque its is in my name.  I just draw out a wage from it weekly into another current account.

We don't get a lot of cheques, mostly BACS payments or cash.  

Doesn't/hasn't effective me getting work with large companies.  

Why would you have your business account under your personal name and not in your business name   If the tax man ever decides to look into your business, he will trawl through it like you wouldn't believe.      Or is it just that your bank is ignorant of the fact that it is actually a business account as opposed to a personal account?

  

Why? Because I choose to do!

Tax man has seen my accounts, no issues.  One account businesses pay in, and I have have another account for my wages and the lads every week. It's not rocket science.  5 years doing so (had 12 months of free banking with Natwest).

I have nothing to hide.

Everyone to their own.
Title: Re: Business banking
Post by: Craigp on September 16, 2014, 10:24:28 pm
Darran just asking can you pay business cheques through that account as well as personal..

cheers

My business account is under my name, not my business name. Anyone giving me a cheque its is in my name.  I just draw out a wage from it weekly into another current account.

We don't get a lot of cheques, mostly BACS payments or cash.  

Doesn't/hasn't effective me getting work with large companies.  

Why would you have your business account under your personal name and not in your business name   If the tax man ever decides to look into your business, he will trawl through it like you wouldn't believe.      Or is it just that your bank is ignorant of the fact that it is actually a business account as opposed to a personal account?

  

Why? Because I choose to do!

Tax man has seen my accounts, no issues.  One account businesses pay in, and I have have another account for my wages and the lads every week. It's not rocket science.  5 years doing so (had 12 months of free banking with Natwest).

I have nothing to hide.

Everyone to their own.

Just ignore Ellott Cleaning Darren, he has ones own head up ones own ass.  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Business banking
Post by: Carpet Dawg on September 16, 2014, 10:36:58 pm
I understand that you choose too but whats the benefit of having your business account in your own name? you'll still have to pay fee's i presume?

I have paid in cheques with both my business name and my own name into my business account no problem. Still bloody got charged for them though grrr
Title: Re: Business banking
Post by: Griffus on September 16, 2014, 10:48:22 pm
HSBC, and I agree they are crap.

Get their money for nothing and they're pr1cks for free!

Trouble is I suspect they're all much the same.

Title: Re: Business banking
Post by: Doctor Carpet (Ret'd) on September 16, 2014, 11:06:02 pm
SO it's OK to defraud a bank by running a business account through a private account which is free of normal transaction charges?

Why not go the whole hog and simply not declare your cash income to avoid paying income tax?

Apart from banks being "big business" it's no different to us small businesses being "conned" into cleaning extra items for no extra charge. The difference is only in the degree of size. (It hurts when we have provided an honest price and for whatever reason we then end up conceding on an overall price  for a set amount of work for one of a multitude of reasons.)

Whilst I accept nobody likes paying bank charges (or any bills for that matter) and there is an argument for them being too high there are plenty of ways to reduce your business bank charges by running your business bank account in a more efficient way. We expect to be paid for our work-why shouldn't the banks be paid for the work that they do?

Rog
(With tin hat on)
Title: Re: Business banking
Post by: jim mca on September 16, 2014, 11:28:52 pm
I use coop bank FSB account no problem pay in cash post office post cheques.
Title: Re: Business banking
Post by: stuart_clark on September 17, 2014, 12:06:09 am
Neil

I have what is called a number 2 account! ! I conduct all my business through that inc standing orderes and bacs payable into the account, I have had it sinde 2006 and dosent cost me a penny, I dont have an overdraught facility on it and there are no charges as long as I stay in credit
Title: Re: Business banking
Post by: Darran Pryce on September 17, 2014, 07:47:34 am
There is no law against having your running your business through your current account (in your personal name).  Done it for the last 5 years no trouble, and my bank are aware of it.  I know stacks of others who do the same.



Option 1: Have a business account and pay their charges
Option 2: Open up another current account (in my name) and have no charges?!

Option 2 for me all day long for me. If some wish to only have a business account, fair play, but it's not for everyone. We run and manage our own businesses by whatever means.  If paying in cheques their is no charge.  Saying that we don't have many cheques as we always push BACS payments, which most businesses/domestic customers are happy with.  99% pay by BACS.  Domestic customer usually pay after the clean whilst we are their so we can see it going in our bank.

We have some large chains we do  work for, schools, NHS offices etc not one flinch when we give them bank details.

That's how we receive payments and run our business! Simples.  Not to everyone's taste but its ours!

 
Title: Re: Business banking
Post by: stuart_clark on September 17, 2014, 08:27:58 am
Darren

I had option one for years, cost me a small fortune, then I went for option two ! Since 2006 doesn't cost me a bean, my accountant is fine with it and so are hmrc, the only thing is you have to get cheques paid to your name
Title: Re: Business banking
Post by: Darran Pryce on September 17, 2014, 08:33:09 am
Darren

I had option one for years, cost me a small fortune, then I went for option two ! Since 2006 doesn't cost me a bean, my accountant is fine with it and so are hmrc, the only thing is you have to get cheques paid to your name

That's true. HMRC have no issues with it, long as they can see the funds going in/out etc.  I would probably get 4-5 cheques at the most made out in my name from commercial work, but no issues with it from my clients.

Happy free banking :-)
Title: Re: Business banking
Post by: stuart_clark on September 17, 2014, 12:35:07 pm
Darran
spell your name right there mate ! Lol
did you buy your van from a dealer or was it a private sale ? You said £7200 was that plus vat mate?
By the way what colour is it ? Ive been looking for a red one but most are white or any colour you want but red ! Lol


Stuart
Title: Re: Business banking
Post by: Darran Pryce on September 17, 2014, 02:31:05 pm
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1410960710_IMAG1281.jpg)It was from a dealer in Stockport mate. £7200 all in. It's also in white and the enterprise edition.
Title: Re: Business banking
Post by: Carpet Dawg on September 17, 2014, 08:45:36 pm
Ah ok so you don't have a business account. Just a normal current account that you use for business, that's fair enough. I might start doing the same.
Title: Re: Business banking
Post by: stuart_clark on September 17, 2014, 09:11:53 pm
There was nothing underhand about , I had discussed it with the business manager from HSBC