Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Phil @ Extreme Clean on September 14, 2014, 08:49:26 pm
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Set my prowler up for 1st time today and tried it feeding from water tank but the pressure works for a few seconds then drops to nothing then builds up when i let go of trigger then drops after a few seconds it seems like it's not getting enough water.
The feed from tank to machine is just standard hose pipe could that be the problem ? and do i need bigger size hose ? could someone post picture of hose i need from tank to machine please,
Thanks Phil.
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I know nothing about this machine but it has similar pumps to a pressure washer and I would say it's a air lock problem . Connect a hosepipe from a tap to it and run the machine with nothing attached to the end so water can run freely through the pump. This will prime the pump with water, then attach it to the tank which should start the flow of water to the machine. Hope this solves your issue
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thanks Dave will give it a try Cheers.
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Also change the hose, get some 3/4 inch.
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You may benefit from fitting a demand pump between the water tank and the machine to force feed it.
Depending on the size of the tank and the amount of water in it its not normally a problem unless running higher psi/flow.
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Phil
have you gone away from using low moisture as per your website now you have a prowler ?
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have you gone away from using low moisture as per your website now you have a prowler ?
Looks like Phil's using a no moisture system at the moment :D
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Unless it's gravity fed into the pump you always run the risk of air locks, a check valve to stop fall back helps so does a perfectly leak free unit. if water leaks out then air can leak in and allow the water to fall back into the tank.
If you look at the inlet of the pump you can judge the biggest size of horsetail that will fit.... Fit the biggest and use supply hose to match.
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No Stuart and Garry still got my Trusty Dry fusion and will always keep it. Jamie i don't know how to fit a pump lol and it should be ok it was in use same setup before i bought it. I think it's down to the size of hose and Mike i built a platform to sit tank on and it's slighty higher than prowler iv'e been busy on a big painting job but hopefully finish tmoz so i can check things more ive run off hose from tap and it keeps pressure but no more than 600-700psi which is more than i need so not bothered i got it for a good price but just want to do a job with it lol.
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Phil, I was only teasing. I've got a job tomorrow that will be done with HWE and DF machine in different sections of the building.
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Remove water inlet connector as there is a filter behind this. It is likely clogged and requires cleaning. If the machine was never pump fed before then this should resolve your problem.
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will check it all tomorrow been really busy on a big painting and carpet job which i have finally finished after 11days solid :) can get back to normality now cheers for all advice i think i will need bigger hose outlet as Neil mentioned but filter will be my 1st port of call.
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Checked everything and even spent £20 on new 3/4 hose and fittings but won't keep pressure i cant higher tank anymore it is slightly higher but not much so looks like a pump what Jamie suggested. Jamie can you post link to pump you would recommend and would it be able to be run from prowler battery ?
Thanks Phil.
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Phil,
It could be the check valves in your pump.
Simon
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Whats that Simon not got a clue mate it worked in last van i haven't done anything different. Would the check valves stop it working with hose or not i'l add pic of feed aswell see if you think it's not high enough.
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Sure I`v got the right pump in the lock up somewhere, I`ll have a look, never had to use it with the Prowler.
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http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=amtex+equipment+repair+shop (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=amtex+equipment+repair+shop)
A few videos there that should help Phil.
The way you have your tank set you shouldn't need a pump unless running high pressure on it.
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Maybe it's the pump it only goes upto around 700psi off hosepipe and regulator is off a scorpion that leaks slightly but like i say i knew this and it worked ok before i got it im not bothered that psi only go's upto 700 cause i'l only use upto 500 i just want it running to do my 1st clean with it lol
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From the end of that new pipe to the inlet of the pump is there any fittings or is it an uninterrupted flow direct into the pump?
If that tank is full and there is no break in the line then the pump is definitely not being starved of water
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It's uninterrupted if i take the qc off prowler it floods out great pressure but as soon as connected it will build pressure but as soon as i press trigger on wand or try open hose for airlock it drops to nothing it only holds pressure with hose from my tap
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Phil,
Put a hose and a wand onto your machine, set a pressure, say, 400, press the trigger, the pressure should only drop around 50 psi or so with the trigger pressed, if it drops more than that then the checkvalves in the head if the prowler pump could have gone.
Simon
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Simon,
From tank the pressure falls to nil but from hose it drops like you say around 50.
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So you are gravity feeding water from your tank to the machine. Try live feeding the machine from a garden hose direct to the machine, if the problem goes away then it is the gravity feed and not the pump.
Simon
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That's what I'm saying Simon from tank pressure to nil from hose on my kitchen tap pressure stays so gotta be the gravity
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Phil your isolation point off your tank is it a full bore fitting ? This could restrict the flow if not
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Well then live feed it to get your job done then get a 12 volt pump, but they ain't cheap.
Simon
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I setup a 240v pump that i use when roof cleaning and as soon as i turned pump on the prowler cut out so i unplugged leads off sensors and tried again and it worked so it must be not enough gravity so pump it is cheers for your help everyone now time to be part of the most thorough or free brigade ;)