Clean It Up
UK General Cleaning Forum => General Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Mike Halliday on September 11, 2014, 03:55:52 pm
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Looking at producing pure water for my carpet cleaning business
As per the title, is this an ok buy? What would have been its purchase price
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Merlin-purification-system-and-holding-tank-/231329317327?pt=UK_HomeGarden_CLV_Cleaning_CA&hash=item35dc4d41cf
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Offer him £250 ;)
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Is it worth £250?
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Depends on how old the filters are, how much water he produced using it, the ingoing tds...all of which will give you an approx to how long the filters will last for if you buy it...
Imo £300 is a bit too high...especially if you're not producing alot of water as merlins are built for high water production
Also if you're on a water metre then they use ALOT more water than a standard r.o
If you not going to be using alot of water, my suggestion would be buy a new 450gpd r.o for £170ish and a d.i second hand and produce into a holding tank (you can pick up an ibc cheap as chips)
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Not worth anything near this price,
The Merlin is very underrated and is an excellent RO. However, like any system I would have to assume the membranes have seen better days and I would replace as a matter of course so that's £160 you are going to add straight away. And I can tell you now looking at that system the pre filter will be compromised and so will the membranes.
On these older Merlin RO systems you should have in place extra pre filters because the integral pre filter can only handle 70 ltrs per day ( giving them the stated 6 month life span )
You can buy the brand new version with all the up rated filters from gardiners for £312
Darran
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What the cheapest set up I can get I don't need loads of water just enough to do the odd conservatory and a few bits and bobs.
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Pure water for cc, is it worth it?
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Neil, we have nearly the hardest water in the country, I think using it would give us a marketing advantage to be able to tell customers we clean with pure water.
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What would be the benefits mike?
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It would help to explain the difference betreen me and the other local carpet cleaners near me who are charging daft low prices, at the moment it's hard to explain why I'm sometimes 3 times the price of the other carpet cleaners. this would give me a unique, easy to explain tangible difference.
I explain it on a new page on my website
http://www.henryhalliday-cleaning.co.uk/information-2/important-information.html
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How did you explain it before the pure water thing?
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Mike,
You spelt drought wrong.
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I wish you well with it Mike but from my experience this just screams the whole Eco friendly chemicals play. Tbh I've tried that at no customers seems arsed IMO. At least they've never told me.
I would be interested to know if it cleans better though.
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How is it still pure water the moment you add a chemical with it ? Surely the water is just a fluid to allow the chemicals to mobilise the dirt into a slurry which is vacuumed out.
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It would help to explain the difference betreen me and the other local carpet cleaners near me who are charging daft low prices, at the moment it's hard to explain why I'm sometimes 3 times the price of the other carpet cleaners. this would give me a unique, easy to explain tangible difference.
I explain it on a new page on my website
http://www.henryhalliday-cleaning.co.uk/information-2/important-information.html
Don't mean to sound funny mike but if i was your competition, i would just say that i was using pure water as well (lie). How would the customer ever know? Then your back to square one
Danny
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bdcs, that the thing you don't need to add any chemical to it, you use it as it is so it rinses out the chemical and leaves only it's self.
Kleanaway, you're right they could just lie :-\ :-\ but as most use portable machines that you fill up with buckets from the customers kitchen sink it would be hard to say say they use RO water, we carry a 100gl water tank on our van which we will fit the RO System to so when we are working the van door is open and the customer can see it.
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If you use a nemesis from restormate I think it actually works better with pure water.
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Mike
I think it has an angle that can be clearly manipulated,with the right marketing. I think it is a good idea
Rob ;D
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Whilst I understand the pure water thing can be used as a marketing ploy which may entice a few I still don't get the practical benefit. You pre spray, agitate, dwell then extract - the pure water will only dilute the pre spray unless you continue to pass until the carpet has a TDS near zero
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I can't see any cleaning benefit Carl but for marketing, done right, a good idea
Rob ;D
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You don't see the cleaning benefit as you don't have a deep enough understand of the science and process of carpet cleaning, ( I know that sounds really condescending )
The big 'myth' people have of carpet cleaning is once you get your carpet cleaned they get dirty quicker, this can be partly true if you are leaving a heavy residue in the carpet to attatch to dry soil. If you can flush enough pure water through the carpet it will remove the prespray and emulsified soil leaving nothing behind.
Most carpet cleaners flush the carpet with a detergent solution that leaves ..... detergent in the carpet.
Given the choice would you prefer me to clean your carpets and leave nothing or would you prefer me to leave a cocktail of upto 20 different chemicals?
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Mike
I understood enough to know it was a good marketing angle. You're right the condescending response wasn't required.
I wish you well with the angle
Rob ;D
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And without being condescending i know a lot more about the science of purified water, probably than you ;)
Rob ;D
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All these massive ego's and big words to just suck a little bit of dirt out of a carpet ;D