Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: richywilts on September 08, 2014, 10:57:36 pm
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well got my stuff back today from lad whose been keeping it going, bit disappointed as i was under impression i had 792 customers, having got laptop back ive now realised that there isnt there in only 490 ish whats happened is on window cleaner pro hes been going off all rounds all customers, however this has taken in to consideration adhoc jobs one offs, rounds i let go, all the groupon customers i had so having stripped it all back im now only at 490 ish with approx a £1000-1100 a week of work,
decision one is use the employee ive taken on to clean and i build rounds up a bit
decision two change to monthly instead of six weekly, reason for this builds up turnover straight away without the need to canvass and leaflet drop, saves increasing prices in january and it also would work better with go cardless i think
people opinions would be nice cheers
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£1000 pw sounds like a good number to jump straight in and get earning, alone.
No offence mate but you seem to be looking for an excuse to NOT get out there on the brush, just do it.
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get smashing it richy lad
£200 a day , you ll be fine , keep it simple
When thats ticking over nicely worry about the next step, you might find you spend less time thinking about the job if you just get out and get it cleaned
I find im least productive when im sat around thinking about it , just do it :)
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Can't see you'd be popular with your customers going from six weekly to four weekly? Actually, can't see you being popular anyway.
I wouldn't employ either if anything scale down for a while and keep things simple. You might have had a big business but it's worthless if your earnings are poor. Keep your head down, plod along and take 40k+ per year. What's wrong with that?
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He doesn't want to do the work really if he is honest :)
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If only there was an easier way to make money.
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;D
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If only there was an easier way to make money.
Plant some trees :D
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i think richy likes the idea of the money but not the physical graft to actually do it himself week in/week out,month in/month out,year in/year out.personally i love working on my own most of the time but im not so sure about richy.
id be happy to smash your workload richy.6 or 7 hours "on the glass" 5 days a week.my round is similar in earnings per week for a one man band.im very happy with it.although i usually have a week off or at least 3-4 days off at the end of the month before next months onslaught.
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Daz you part timer
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Daz you part timer
;D ;D ;D
if i was flat out 5 days a week EVERY WEEK mick this window cleaning lark would really grind me down!the few days off(or week)at the end of the month helps keep me fresh and motivated!i could take on more work and canvass hard and fill up another weeks work but i reckon it would make me miserable and id have to change my name to DAVE WILLIS!! ;) ;D ;D
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Maybe more time working, less time asking questions that you already know the answers to perhaps?
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well got my stuff back today from lad whose been keeping it going, bit disappointed as i was under impression i had 792 customers, having got laptop back ive now realised that there isnt there in only 490 ish whats happened is on window cleaner pro hes been going off all rounds all customers, however this has taken in to consideration adhoc jobs one offs, rounds i let go, all the groupon customers i had so having stripped it all back im now only at 490 ish with approx a £1000-1100 a week of work,
decision one is use the employee ive taken on to clean and i build rounds up a bit
decision two change to monthly instead of six weekly, reason for this builds up turnover straight away without the need to canvass and leaflet drop, saves increasing prices in january and it also would work better with go cardless i think
people opinions would be nice cheers
You forgot option 3..which would be get off your fat lazy arse instead of walking around with your head up it and go and earn an honest days graft instead.
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well got my stuff back today from lad whose been keeping it going, bit disappointed as i was under impression i had 792 customers, having got laptop back ive now realised that there isnt there in only 490 ish whats happened is on window cleaner pro hes been going off all rounds all customers, however this has taken in to consideration adhoc jobs one offs, rounds i let go, all the groupon customers i had so having stripped it all back im now only at 490 ish with approx a £1000-1100 a week of work,
decision one is use the employee ive taken on to clean and i build rounds up a bit
decision two change to monthly instead of six weekly, reason for this builds up turnover straight away without the need to canvass and leaflet drop, saves increasing prices in january and it also would work better with go cardless i think
people opinions would be nice cheers
You forgot option 3..which would be get off your fat lazy arse instead of walking around with your head up it and go and earn an honest days graft instead.
Well that escalated quickly.
:)
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well got my stuff back today from lad whose been keeping it going, bit disappointed as i was under impression i had 792 customers, having got laptop back ive now realised that there isnt there in only 490 ish whats happened is on window cleaner pro hes been going off all rounds all customers, however this has taken in to consideration adhoc jobs one offs, rounds i let go, all the groupon customers i had so having stripped it all back im now only at 490 ish with approx a £1000-1100 a week of work,
decision one is use the employee ive taken on to clean and i build rounds up a bit
decision two change to monthly instead of six weekly, reason for this builds up turnover straight away without the need to canvass and leaflet drop, saves increasing prices in january and it also would work better with go cardless i think
people opinions would be nice cheers
You forgot option 3..which would be get off your fat lazy arse instead of walking around with your head up it and go and earn an honest days graft instead.
lol, stop sitting on the fence!! ;D You have a point though. ;)
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Richy you don't need the advice of complete strangers to tell you how to clean your own backside! Get your finger out and stop flaffing about!
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well got my stuff back today from lad whose been keeping it going, bit disappointed as i was under impression i had 792 customers, having got laptop back ive now realised that there isnt there in only 490 ish whats happened is on window cleaner pro hes been going off all rounds all customers, however this has taken in to consideration adhoc jobs one offs, rounds i let go, all the groupon customers i had so having stripped it all back im now only at 490 ish with approx a £1000-1100 a week of work,
decision one is use the employee ive taken on to clean and i build rounds up a bit
decision two change to monthly instead of six weekly, reason for this builds up turnover straight away without the need to canvass and leaflet drop, saves increasing prices in january and it also would work better with go cardless i think
people opinions would be nice cheers
You forgot option 3..which would be get off your fat lazy arse instead of walking around with your head up it and go and earn an honest days graft instead.
lol, stop sitting on the fence!! ;D You have a point though. ;)
ok maybe a little on the harsh side my apologies richy, but jeeze are you for real no matter how many times people say you dont need to employ for now go out and learn your round, the next day your asking the same stupid questions
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ive taken the lad on as an employee and found out later that the business aint quite where it should have been, i know everyone thinks im lazy and dont want to work but i cant wait to get out working to be honest, ive been out today handing out printed newsletter with new bank details and payment options etc with coupons with special offers for the customers etc on handed out 50, spoke with appox 20 and got 3 extra adhoc jobs 2 connys and a large fascia job,
ive offered the lad a job and i wont go back on my word yes i know its only 494 at minute but i know it will soon build up to 6-650, i must admit im not one for working on my own i do like someone there to support me and work alongside, moneys not my main motivation im happy taking a good wage i enjoy the building side of it too tho and im only wanting to get bk up to approx the vat threshold so another 25grand a year or so of business
a lot of the customers are very happy im back as the work hasnt been up to standard etc so
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Why do exactly the same as you did before?
You had a round close to the vat threshold you had employees, couldn't afford to take a wage half the time and had to resort to crime. Why don't you ever listen? ::)roll
Your £1000 a week potential has already been knocked back by what? £300 a week by employing. You've got the simplest business already set up for you with excellent earning potential, no need to canvass, no need for crappy Groupon deals no marketting costs, no van signage needed and yet........... ::)roll
How much were you paying yourself as a wage before your 'holiday' by the way?
How you can make an error of 300 missing customers a month is beyond me - what's that 20k+ of work?
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from what i can see here, richy was led to believe he had 700 + customers coming back to him!!, it turned out it was 490, he had taken on a guy...for the 790, seems fair to me, he is then left with the 490 but is keeping the guy on, seems fair and noble to me but i would say that could be a good idea as all the work, potentially can be done lets say in three days ( two of them) instead of 5 (on his own) this will allow him the time to build it back up to say 800.
Hopefully he has learnt his lesson in relation to employing mates who screwed him over and employ in a correct manner and get good people in and also grow more slowly and in a controlled manner.
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He's got Cleaner Planner on trial. All he needs to do is look at his income forecast for the year to see his earnings potential then decide if employing is such a great idea. I can only see this business going the same as the last one I'm afraid.
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it wasnt me who made the mistake ive been led to believe there was 200 new customers etc on the system having got laptop back and going through window cleaner pro loads of old work was active on the system, the groupon deals i did were active, one off cleans etc were active so when the lads done a tally up of active customers hes told me 792 loads new customers, now im not sure if this is a setup up or a honest mistake to mislead me, my commercial work has all gone too but i couldnt care less its a fresh start and im raring to go out again loved chatting to the customers etc today
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Odd to me.. surely you should of waited till you got your laptop back to see whats what with all the work and go through it before employing someone? Just because someone says you have got 700 odd customers you just take it as truth? friend family or not.
Whats all this crap with news letters and offers? just get out there and clean them get the money in and repeat the next visit! ive never ever needed any stupid offers in this business to bring work in.
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Richy you need to stop judging the size of your business by the number of customers you have. 790 or 490 it really doesn't matter.
What does matter though is your round value which will be measured in £'s and not number of customers.
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Richy you need to stop judging the size of your business by the number of customers you have. 790 or 490 it really doesn't matter.
What does matter though is your round value which will be measured in £'s and not number of customers.
round values are pretty decent to be fair, when i say so many customers i know what value is in my head etc i go off average 12 quid
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Odd to me.. surely you should of waited till you got your laptop back to see whats what with all the work and go through it before employing someone? Just because someone says you have got 700 odd customers you just take it as truth? friend family or not.
Whats all this crap with news letters and offers? just get out there and clean them get the money in and repeat the next visit! ive never ever needed any stupid offers in this business to bring work in.
its just an explanation of whats going on with change in management, new limited company set up, new bank details, new payment methods and i put coupons on the bank which have proved to work as got three jobs today off them and only spoke to approx 25 people