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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: buzzing on September 06, 2014, 10:46:54 am
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Defintitely going to start to use wfp system. At the moment traditional. If I am doing it in a car, want to throw all this stuff on my back seat (which is covered with a plastic sheet. Isn't a backpack better for starting out? Are they heavy? Or should I go for a trolley?
I will get short poles, someone recommended phonenix poles as they are shorter and might fit on my backseat, good ones?
What brush shall i get?
TDS meter?
Was thinking of big boy backpack from windowcleaning warehouse
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Go for a trolley but also use a reel at the same time.
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Forget a trolley for using with a car, backpack is far easier to
handle from a car and far cheaper, you can always get a fold away
trolley from B&Q to put it on if it gets too much.
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Now there's a man who doesn't know what he's talking about.
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How many barrels you going to put in your car?
Personally (having known someone to do this out of a picasso and tried it) mount a pump and controller on a board, with the inlet split into two so you can draw from 2 barrels
You can then use a hose reel, and you've made yourself a diy car mount!
Mates worked quite well, and got him started on wfp. Also meant he could take it all out and use as a family car
He diy'd a harris pole for his work which fit in the car easily, but if going to buy a wfp then obviously buy one with a short closed length
Yes you want a tds metre so you know whether you need a r.o or just D.I
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Honest answer:
Sell your car and get a van.
Yes you may think that's drastic, but honestly that's what you need to do.
Working from a car with wfp is not the same as working from a car with trad.
Using a car with ladders is easy, but using a car with wfp is a right pain.
You can pick up a decent berlingo or partner for under £2k, and get a nice 300 litre system fully fitted by a pro company for under £3k. So that's a total set up for only £5k.
Don't know how much your car is worth, but say it was an old banger only worth £500:
Sell Car: £500
Tesco loan: £4,500
= £5,000
The payments on a tesco loan for £4,500 over 3 years are only £148 per month, so about £34 per week, and you'll have a proper set up. Or keep the car for the missus and pay £151 a month instead.
Say even on a bad day £34 is 2 hours work. I guarantee you that having a van system will save you MUCH more time than 2 hours per week, simply in faffing about filling up barrels and carting them about.
Speaking as someone who knows, as I've been in the same position as you, forget messing about with barrels and backpacks etc. a van system is really the only decent thing to have.
If you go down the backpack/trolley/barrel/car route, I guarantee that in less than a year you'll wish you hadn't waste your time and money on it, and just got a van and system in the first place. Yes its a lot of money to spend, but it's what you need. Take a deep breath and do it properly.
Just my advice.
Also, by the way, backpacks, barrels, and trolleys are heavy. It is hard work doing wfp with them, I'd even say its harder work than trad. In contrast working from a van, where all you have to lift is a hose reel and pole, is so easy its like cheating.
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Pete couldn't agree more, brilliant post.
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I would go for the backpack route first. You can always upgrade at some point and the backpack will always come in handy. I'd go for one from Gardiner and stick it on a barra from B&Q.
It's not easy for everyone to just get a van and fully fitted setup. You can waste money on this and that but a backpack won't be a waste of money.
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Honest answer:
Sell your car and get a van.
Yes you may think that's drastic, but honestly that's what you need to do.
Working from a car with wfp is not the same as working from a car with trad.
Using a car with ladders is easy, but using a car with wfp is a right pain.
You can pick up a decent berlingo or partner for under £2k, and get a nice 300 litre system fully fitted by a pro company for under £3k. So that's a total set up for only £5k.
Don't know how much your car is worth, but say it was an old banger only worth £500:
Sell Car: £500
Tesco loan: £4,500
= £5,000
The payments on a tesco loan for £4,500 over 3 years are only £148 per month, so about £34 per week, and you'll have a proper set up. Or keep the car for the missus and pay £151 a month instead.
Say even on a bad day £34 is 2 hours work. I guarantee you that having a van system will save you MUCH more time than 2 hours per week, simply in faffing about filling up barrels and carting them about.
Speaking as someone who knows, as I've been in the same position as you, forget messing about with barrels and backpacks etc. a van system is really the only decent thing to have.
If you go down the backpack/trolley/barrel/car route, I guarantee that in less than a year you'll wish you hadn't waste your time and money on it, and just got a van and system in the first place. Yes its a lot of money to spend, but it's what you need. Take a deep breath and do it properly.
Just my advice.
Also, by the way, backpacks, barrels, and trolleys are heavy. It is hard work doing wfp with them, I'd even say its harder work than trad. In contrast working from a van, where all you have to lift is a hose reel and pole, is so easy its like cheating.
Or Add a few zeros and get an ionics system and you only need to earn £340 a day
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Or Add a few zeros and get an ionics system and you only need to earn £340 a day
The price I gave was for an ionics system. Well, pure2o, which is ionics budget range. Basic one with RO and DI is just under £3k including vat and fitting.
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Or Add a few zeros and get an ionics system and you only need to earn £340 a day
The price I gave was for an ionics system. Well, pure2o, which is ionics budget range. Basic one with RO and DI is just under £3k including vat and fitting.
Proper one not the budget version.
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Now there's a man who doesn't know what he's talking about.
Funny I have worked quite happily from an estate car for a few years
if the chap wants something portable as in pick up take with him and
use his best option is a pack which is easier to handle than a trolley system.
When I had my freedom trolley years ago it was a ball ache dropping in
and out of the car I ended up using it with 50mts of microbore from the car
which made the expense of the trolley pointless
Why waste money on a trolley when he could buy a pack for next to nothing
and if need be buy a 12ah battery a cheap 70psi propump stick it on a board
and use with some microbore from his vehicle,got it all covered for a lot
less expense than what you would pay for a so called trolley system.
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Honest answer:
Sell your car and get a van.
Yes you may think that's drastic, but honestly that's what you need to do.
Working from a car with wfp is not the same as working from a car with trad.
Using a car with ladders is easy, but using a car with wfp is a right pain.
You can pick up a decent berlingo or partner for under £2k, and get a nice 300 litre system fully fitted by a pro company for under £3k. So that's a total set up for only £5k.
Don't know how much your car is worth, but say it was an old banger only worth £500:
Sell Car: £500
Tesco loan: £4,500
= £5,000
The payments on a tesco loan for £4,500 over 3 years are only £148 per month, so about £34 per week, and you'll have a proper set up. Or keep the car for the missus and pay £151 a month instead.
Say even on a bad day £34 is 2 hours work. I guarantee you that having a van system will save you MUCH more time than 2 hours per week, simply in faffing about filling up barrels and carting them about.
Speaking as someone who knows, as I've been in the same position as you, forget messing about with barrels and backpacks etc. a van system is really the only decent thing to have.
If you go down the backpack/trolley/barrel/car route, I guarantee that in less than a year you'll wish you hadn't waste your time and money on it, and just got a van and system in the first place. Yes its a lot of money to spend, but it's what you need. Take a deep breath and do it properly.
Just my advice.
Also, by the way, backpacks, barrels, and trolleys are heavy. It is hard work doing wfp with them, I'd even say its harder work than trad. In contrast working from a van, where all you have to lift is a hose reel and pole, is so easy its like cheating.
Interesting post and in ideal world correct but the guy might have other things to consider
like transporting a family around and also not be able to justify at this moment the extra cost for a second vehicle
If this is the case using his existing vehicle is a sensible option at this time.
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I have been traditional just doing bungalows for year and a half. It is a p/t gig (just Saturdays)I work in a language school during the week, but the money is crap and I do this for extra money. I love window cleaning, but not sure if I want to go full time yet. I also do a bit of gardening and handyman stuff and hoping to try my hands at a trade perhaps. My car is old and was planning to run it into the ground. I have thought about a van, but I currently live in shared house cant have own RO (will buy water from a guy). Maybe should get van, but other thing is girlfriend will have a baby in four months, i don't know if u can transport a baby in a van ?
I guess a backpack is better than a trolley reading these arguments!
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How many barrels you going to put in your car?
Personally (having known someone to do this out of a picasso and tried it) mount a pump and controller on a board, with the inlet split into two so you can draw from 2 barrels
You can then use a hose reel, and you've made yourself a diy car mount!
Mates worked quite well, and got him started on wfp. Also meant he could take it all out and use as a family car
He diy'd a harris pole for his work which fit in the car easily, but if going to buy a wfp then obviously buy one with a short closed length
Yes you want a tds metre so you know whether you need a r.o or just D.I
Not sure how many barrels - thought 4 to begin with?
When you say controller and pump mounted on a board, do you mean the board is a piece of wood which you can move in and out of back seat?
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Not sure how many barrels - thought 4 to begin with?
When you say controller and pump mounted on a board, do you mean the board is a piece of wood which you can move in and out of back seat?
4 is a good number to start with untill you get used to it and work out by trial and error what's best.
It's easier to have the pump, battery and controller attached to one thing like a bit of wood. No need to screw them on, just use stick on velcro. Also, try to keep the distance from the pump to the barrels as short as possible.
You'll find as time goes on that you'll think up better ways of having things.
A wfp pole that closes down very short is the Ionics Grafter either 24ft or 28ft. It's a good cheap'ish pole to start with although this being a pro Gardiners forum that suggestion will get a real slagging off.
A Harris pole is ok to use as well. I used one for a few years. Dead cheap but very wobbly over about 10ft.
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Defintitely going to start to use wfp system. At the moment traditional. If I am doing it in a car, want to throw all this stuff on my back seat (which is covered with a plastic sheet. Isn't a backpack better for starting out? Are they heavy? Or should I go for a trolley?
I will get short poles, someone recommended phonenix poles as they are shorter and might fit on my backseat, good ones?
What brush shall i get?
TDS meter?
Was thinking of big boy backpack from windowcleaning warehouse
Hi buzzing, good luck wfp. Peter (Broxburn cleaning products) has a micro trolley
out which is super light and very strong and i think its only about £250 :o
it can also have a small di canister attached so you can fill up at custys tap.
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Defintitely going to start to use wfp system. At the moment traditional. If I am doing it in a car, want to throw all this stuff on my back seat (which is covered with a plastic sheet. Isn't a backpack better for starting out? Are they heavy? Or should I go for a trolley?
I will get short poles, someone recommended phonenix poles as they are shorter and might fit on my backseat, good ones?
What brush shall i get?
TDS meter?
Was thinking of big boy backpack from windowcleaning warehouse
Hi buzzing, good luck wfp. Peter (Broxburn cleaning products) has a micro trolley
out which is super light and very strong and i think its only about £250 :o
it can also have a small di canister attached so you can fill up at custys tap.
Is it small enough to go on backseat?
How heavy is the big boybackpack?
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Defintitely going to start to use wfp system. At the moment traditional. If I am doing it in a car, want to throw all this stuff on my back seat (which is covered with a plastic sheet. Isn't a backpack better for starting out? Are they heavy? Or should I go for a trolley?
I will get short poles, someone recommended phonenix poles as they are shorter and might fit on my backseat, good ones?
What brush shall i get?
TDS meter?
Was thinking of big boy backpack from windowcleaning warehouse
Hi buzzing, good luck wfp. Peter (Broxburn cleaning products) has a micro trolley
out which is super light and very strong and i think its only about £250 :o
it can also have a small di canister attached so you can fill up at custys tap.
Is it small enough to go on backseat?
How heavy is the big boybackpack?
Defo will go on back seat handle comes off
and the weight will be similar to the big boy.
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Forget made up trolleys.
Maplins trolley or similar, barrel, pump from ebay, either a controller (£50) or a voltage regulator (£5), hose, jubilee thingies, some wood and some thought about how to make the idea work, well under £100.
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Forget made up trolleys.
Maplins trolley or similar, barrel, pump from ebay, either a controller (£50) or a voltage regulator (£5), hose, jubilee thingies, some wood and some thought about how to make the idea work, well under £100.
That's great But trolley won't last long.
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I have been traditional just doing bungalows for year and a half. It is a p/t gig (just Saturdays)I work in a language school during the week, but the money is crap and I do this for extra money. I love window cleaning, but not sure if I want to go full time yet. I also do a bit of gardening and handyman stuff and hoping to try my hands at a trade perhaps. My car is old and was planning to run it into the ground. I have thought about a van, but I currently live in shared house cant have own RO (will buy water from a guy). Maybe should get van, but other thing is girlfriend will have a baby in four months, i don't know if u can transport a baby in a van ?
I guess a backpack is better than a trolley reading these arguments!
To put it bluntly WHY BOTHER WASTING YOUR MONEY , Only working on a Saturday ,Just doing bungalows , Buying water and Baby on the way .
Says it all really keep your money and spend it on the baby . Mike
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As ross said forget the overpriced trolleys they are a waste of money
just get a backpack £100 or use a pump directly from the car
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Ok big boy it is to get started with a view to a pump and reel running off a board.
What about short poles which fold up enough to go on backseat-Ionics Grafter or pheonix? How long? get one for 2 storey or 3?
What brush?
Four 25 litre barrels
thought buy all this from windowcleaning warehouse.
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That's great But trolley won't last long.
My £15 maplins trolley is still going strong after about 3 years of frequent use. I think it depends on the person as to how long something lasts.
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Ok big boy it is to get started with a view to a pump and reel running off a board.
What about short poles which fold up enough to go on backseat-Ionics Grafter or pheonix? How long? get one for 2 storey or 3?
What brush?
Four 25 litre barrels
thought buy all this from windowcleaning warehouse.
35ft will do most 2nd floor places maybe even the 3rd. 28ft will do all 1st floor and sometimes the 2nd. The vast majority of my work I do with a 28ft pole.
The longer the pole, the longer it's closed length. Which an ionics pole, the sections separate dead easy. I don't know about other makes.
As for the brush, it's personal choice. I use an Unger brush. Others on here swear by Gardiners. Hardly anyone other than a masochist uses a Vikan as they're so heavy. I'd just buy a brush a give it a go but you need to get the right fitting for the pole so maybe phone and ask before buying.
With Gardiners stuff, the only place to buy them from is direct from Gardiners.
I would buy the pump from ebay as it'll be much cheaper and probably the same pump anyway.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12V-Self-Priming-80PSI-High-Pressure-Diaphragm-Water-Pump-For-Sink-Taps-Shower-/110932731909?pt=UK_HomeGarden_CLV_Cleaning_CA&hash=item19d41b2805
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Before anyone says it, i work from a car with a trolley and barrels ;D
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35ft will do most 2nd floor places maybe even the 3rd. 28ft will do all 1st floor and sometimes the 2nd. The vast majority of my work I do with a 28ft pole.
The longer the pole, the longer it's closed length. Which an ionics pole, the sections separate dead easy. I don't know about other makes.
As for the brush, it's personal choice. I use an Unger brush. Others on here swear by Gardiners. Hardly anyone other than a masochist uses a Vikan as they're so heavy. I'd just buy a brush a give it a go but you need to get the right fitting for the pole so maybe phone and ask before buying.
With Gardiners stuff, the only place to buy them from is direct from Gardiners.
I would buy the pump from ebay as it'll be much cheaper and probably the same pump anyway.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12V-Self-Priming-80PSI-High-Pressure-Diaphragm-Water-Pump-For-Sink-Taps-Shower-/110932731909?pt=UK_HomeGarden_CLV_Cleaning_CA&hash=item19d41b2805
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U mean get the backpack without the pump
or this one with the pump?-
http://www.windowcleaningwarehouse.co.uk/big-boy-backpack.html
Also, worth getting a DI canistor?
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Think I will go for the micro trolley. Seems better than the backpack. And will have a better pump and battery and could add a DI canistor if wanted.
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Your money to waste.
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Your money to waste.
The micro trolley Isn't a waste of money IMO this will last
many years more than a backpack on a trolley.
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Not going to argue the toss....but really!!! ;D
ive had my ws packs over four years.
The pack cost me less than £100,i have replaced the pump once
which is a 70psi pump like the micro trolleys cost less than £25
and battery once a year less than £20.
I use my pack around 5 hours a day
Incidently I don't use a trolley for it,i pick up put down as required.
not only has it been cheaper even full it is lighter than using a trolley
with a 25 litre barrel on it and far quicker and easier to move about.
ive had a freedom trolley and used a pack from a car,it is easier
with a pack and the chap is part time weekends only and doesn't know
if this will become a fulltime occupation.
So in the circumstances I would say paying out for the micro trolley is
a waste of money.
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Not going to argue the toss....but really!!! ;D
So in the circumstances I would say paying out for the micro trolley is
a waste of money.
But you are a WFP window cleaner that only uses tap water.
So that makes your opinions null and void........
Just teasin
;D
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;D
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I've got 2 gardiner back packs, 1 DIY pump box with varistream and 1 pump with an analog controller on a board. Previously had someone working for me so wanted a spare for each person. Now I'll use one back pack for spraying TFR and fungicidal washes and the other will be used when tank is refilling. The pump box was previously being used on a barra with a 25L container but haven't worked this way for a while as air locks were frequent and time consuming. After carrying the backpack yesterday I'm thinking of using it more often as it'll reduce the amount frustration from the hose snagging.
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Not going to argue the toss....but really!!! ;D
ive had my ws packs over four years.
The pack cost me less than £100,i have replaced the pump once
which is a 70psi pump like the micro trolleys cost less than £25
and battery once a year less than £20.
I use my pack around 5 hours a day
Incidently I don't use a trolley for it,i pick up put down as required.
not only has it been cheaper even full it is lighter than using a trolley
with a 25 litre barrel on it and far quicker and easier to move about.
ive had a freedom trolley and used a pack from a car,it is easier
with a pack and the chap is part time weekends only and doesn't know
if this will become a fulltime occupation.
So in the circumstances I would say paying out for the micro trolley is
a waste of money.
Agree with what you have said but I'm assuming you haven't used the micro
trolley ?
I've used the trolley and have used backpacks for many years and
the m/t is great value from a point it will last far longer than a backpack
I have many backpacks with wholes cracks ect you would need a very
heavy hammer to damage the m/t.
The m/t is micro seriously very light not like any other trolley as i said
weight has to be about same as a backpack and you will have 25l barrels
anyway for water but instead of pouring into backpack you just sit barrel in
place and instead of 18l water you have 25l quicker with less effort.
you can also attach di vessel for on the move and the pole holder is great.
So for the extra money IMO it has to be the micro trolley in this situation.
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I guess the micro trolley then, if it's as easier to take in and out of the car. The guy in Scotland won't have one for another two weeks mind you! By the way, where do people buy there 25L barrels?
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Where are these micro trolleys, I only found a Majorca window cleaners website saying "from the makers of aqua tap"
Are you referring to the trolley from Daqua, which ways a tonne
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I guess the micro trolley then, if it's as easier to take in and out of the car. The guy in Scotland won't have one for another two weeks mind you! By the way, where do people buy there 25L barrels?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1x-New-25L-25-Litre-Plastic-Water-Containers-Carrier-Drum-Gerrycan-Jerri-Bottle-/351158096845?pt=UK_Home_Garden_Garden_Plants_Bird_Bath_Feeder_CV&hash=item51c2a753cd
You will probably get cheaper if you do a search.
Try your local car wash they will usually give you them or sell you them cheap just
need to wash them out.
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I guess the micro trolley then, if it's as easier to take in and out of the car. The guy in Scotland won't have one for another two weeks mind you! By the way, where do people buy there 25L barrels?
Get your barrels from a car wash,they will either give them away or charge
you pennies.
just give them a good rinse out.
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I guess the micro trolley then, if it's as easier to take in and out of the car. The guy in Scotland won't have one for another two weeks mind you! By the way, where do people buy there 25L barrels?
Get your barrels from a car wash,they will either give them away or charge
you pennies.
just give them a good rinse out.
Ok will do, if you rinse them with tap water won't that contaminate them for the pure water which needs to go in later? (I am new to wfp!)
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Where are these micro trolleys, I only found a Majorca window cleaners website saying "from the makers of aqua tap"
Are you referring to the trolley from Daqua, which ways a tonne
I was recommended to me on this thread-
Peter (Broxburn cleaning products)
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Do you mean this trolley?
http://www.window-tools.com/water-fed-pole-trolley-system.htm
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I guess the micro trolley then, if it's as easier to take in and out of the car. The guy in Scotland won't have one for another two weeks mind you! By the way, where do people buy there 25L barrels?
Get your barrels from a car wash,they will either give them away or charge
you pennies.
just give them a good rinse out.
Ok will do, if you rinse them with tap water won't that contaminate them for the pure water which needs to go in later? (I am new to wfp!)
How much tap water are you planning on leaving in them? All of it - in which case yes it would.
You plan to empty them but leave the drops and residue in the bottom - then no, of course not.
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Do you mean this trolley?
http://www.window-tools.com/water-fed-pole-trolley-system.htm
Looks like a terrorist has built it. Its a portable bomb.
If you have a suntan and a beard I would avoid it.
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Do you mean this trolley?
http://www.window-tools.com/water-fed-pole-trolley-system.htm
Looks like a terrorist has built it. Its a portable bomb.
If you have a suntan and a beard I would avoid it.
Lmao ;D
Not the one in the pic.
I have jumped the gun a bit the micro trolley
won't be available for a couple of weeks
I'm told. I have a couple because I pestered
the life out of Peter for them. They are very
good as I've already said I will put a link
up when he adds them to his sight.
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I have used a van, but then had the cost of running two vehicles. I have been using a trailer towed by my Passat for the last 4 years. I altered the trailer to suit my needs. It has a ramp for the trolley and carries 14 containers if working with my lad, less if working alone. I am still using the same DIY 50ltr trolley system I desinged and made about 10 years ago, I am on my second varistream but the same original Surflo pump. The hose reel on the trolley holds 40 meters of micro bore [ I had to replace the original] so know worries dragging a trolley round the backs. My wife fills containers from the DI only system, twin vessels and a tap water TDS reading of 47 ppm
I couldn't do a lot of my round with a van mount without using 200 meters of hose.
Of course I could just put a tank in the trailer instead of 25 ltr containers, but with a mostly highly compact round I much prefer to work with the trolley. Even though it's all aluminium construction I can still stand on it to unlock back gates.
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Nearly 10 years of solid graft and still as good as new.
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i take my hat off to you dai still using barrels,trolleys and extel poles at your age!i couldnt do it.using a van mount and carbon poles have made my working day a lot easier. :)
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The trolley dose have its advantages. However when I got back into window cleaning the round I bought came with equipment as the chap was packing it in. He had been using a 30ft glass fibre pole and a 35L trolley which wasn't high enough for pulling or pushing. 2 weeks later he stopped to chat while working and I showed him my new SLX-22 and DIY pump box on a trolley with 25L on top. He was in shock at the quality of the pole and realised that he had been punishing himself for years with c**p equipment.
Your trolley is good but you will benefit from a pole upgrade.
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The trolley dose have its advantages. However when I got back into window cleaning the round I bought came with equipment as the chap was packing it in. He had been using a 30ft glass fibre pole and a 35L trolley which wasn't high enough for pulling or pushing. 2 weeks later he stopped to chat while working and I showed him my new SLX-22 and DIY pump box on a trolley with 25L on top. He was in shock at the quality of the pole and realised that he had been punishing himself for years with c**p equipment.
Your trolley is good but you will benefit from a pole upgrade.
That's a Harris and weighs very little, I have a Brodex 35ft carbon that weighs a ton, and a 60ft superlite 2 that weighs naff all. If you look at the trolley it has twin pole carriers, It saves a lot of time being able to carry everything on the trolley, a carbon pole wouldn't like being carried in those carriers. The answer would be to fit different pole carriers with a cushioned rim. I am seriously considering a 25ft carbon SLX, it would save a lot of time being able to use one pole to do the first three levels. Im 72 on Wednesday so may treat myself.
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72 Respect ;)
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I know a couple of guys who use the pure freedom trolly from the boots of their cars and it works very well for them. However if your thinking back seat then a back pack would be far more appropriate than any trolly as most trollies just won't fit easily. You don't have to wear the back pack just sit it on the floor next to where you are working.
How many jobs do you do on the average Saturday? If it's a lot do you really want to be struggling to squeeze a trolly into an awkward space repeatedly, especially if it's full of water.
As for poles, you say your doing mostly bungalows, so do you really need a big pole at the moment? I'd recommend a gardiners clx or slx 18 or 22 foot pole. These are short poles collapsed down and you can easily remove the brushes to make the even shorter. Plus they are just very good poles.
Congrates on the baby.
Simon.
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Dai king of the harris pole,saved me a lot of money over
the last five years matey :)
But i have crossed over to the darkside now ;D
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For bungalows using a car.
Back pack, fold up trolley, barrels, hose, Harris pole cut down if needed.
Jeeez. This is like some type of soap that doesn't end.
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72 and still at it, fair play.
Still pushing them sprogs out Dai? How old is the youngest - 5? 6?
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I think these wind up threads are the best . He's obviously had you all over . And now on the third page .oops he's just had me as well ;D
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72 and still at it, fair play.
Still pushing them sprogs out Dai? How old is the youngest - 5? 6?
She is 4 and a half, a right dare devil, the misses walked in from the garden and caught her coming down stairs on a bleeding rocking horse, if my misses wasn't there she would have smashed into the front door. You couldn't make it up.
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Do you mean this trolley?
http://www.window-tools.com/water-fed-pole-trolley-system.htm
Looks like a terrorist has built it. Its a portable bomb.
If you have a suntan and a beard I would avoid it.
Lmao ;D
Not the one in the pic.
I have jumped the gun a bit the micro trolley
won't be available for a couple of weeks
I'm told. I have a couple because I pestered
the life out of Peter for them. They are very
good as I've already said I will put a link
up when he adds them to his sight.
I called him- the Scottish fella, but he hung up. Maybe try again next week? Is this micro trolley going to be as good on the backseat if i use there and not boot as the backpack?
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I know a couple of guys who use the pure freedom trolly from the boots of their cars and it works very well for them. However if your thinking back seat then a back pack would be far more appropriate than any trolly as most trollies just won't fit easily. You don't have to wear the back pack just sit it on the floor next to where you are working.
How many jobs do you do on the average Saturday? If it's a lot do you really want to be struggling to squeeze a trolly into an awkward space repeatedly, especially if it's full of water.
As for poles, you say your doing mostly bungalows, so do you really need a big pole at the moment? I'd recommend a gardiners clx or slx 18 or 22 foot pole. These are short poles collapsed down and you can easily remove the brushes to make the even shorter. Plus they are just very good poles.
Congrates on the baby.
Simon.
Thanks.
I do a few not that many. But going wfp I am sure I can get a lot more by knocking on doors- doing first floors and maybe second floors quicker will be quicker and earn more money than doing old dears bungalows only trad.
Apparently, this microtrolley can be squeezed in the passenger seat. The handle folds down. Obviously if it was a big trolley a backpack would be better. The Scottish guy who sells them though still hasnt got back.
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The TSR35 trolley that John Hewitt sells would be much more useful than a backpack. It holds 35 litres of water and being taller and slimmer (a bit top heavy) than some other trolleys it would probably fit on the floor of your vehicle between the front and rear seats.
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I was recommended a micro trolley on this thread, but the guy in Scotland hasnt got back!
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Was thinking of big boy backpack from windowcleaning warehouse
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Hi buzzing, good luck wfp. Peter (Broxburn cleaning products) has a micro trolley
out which is super light and very strong and i think its only about £250 :o
it can also have a small di canister attached so you can fill up at custys tap.
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do you know the link where I can buy this on the site? Couldnt find it.