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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: JamesAJF on September 05, 2014, 10:59:47 pm
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I been cleaning windows now for 7 years
im water fed and trad im always listening to
other window cleaners and reading on this forum about
how much they charge for a day rate and im gob smacked
One guy said £300 pounds. who would pay that much for a clean
i mean anyone can clean a window cant they i have never earned that much
for a day on a domestic property i just cant believe somone would pay that
:-X or am i wrong?? i clean for some big property's and they moan at a £100 a day i dont think i would have a business at all if i was charging £300 pounds a day :-\
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I been cleaning windows now for 7 years
im water fed and trad im always listening to
other window cleaners and reading on this forum about
how much they charge for a day rate and im gob smacked
One guy said £300 pounds. who would pay that much for a clean
i mean anyone can clean a window cant they i have never earned that much
for a day on a domestic property i just cant believe somone would pay that
:-X or am i wrong?? i clean for some big property's and they moan at a £100 a day i dont think i would have a business at all if i was charging £300 pounds a day :-\
sorry not sure what your asking or saying ???
are you saying you cant earn more than £100 a day ???
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£100 a day is an ok day rate
but you can make more and i would say you should aim to make more
when you count up the fact that 28% is taxable over a small amount and then your expenses and holidays sick pay etc
Its quite easy with the right work ethic and pricing structure to do double the day rate you propose , £300 a day day in and out however , although do able , is very rare by a one man band....
area helps although it isnt a barrier
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I just dont understand how some of you guys could charge £300
for a days work when all your doing is cleaning windows i would never get a job if i asked for that much. skilled ppl dont even get payed that much a day i find it hard to believe That some ppl can charge that much for a day rate to clean some windows what i make a day is no were near that much lol i wish i was. I must be doing something wrong.
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Its only 15 x £20 houses
Or 30 x £10 houses
A mixture of both could be done daily if you have enough decent priced work mate.
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I mean the area i live in aint to bad i clean a few big big houses and i charge about 140 pounds witch i think is good and realistic price for
a day and they grumble at that lol i would never get any work if i charged more than that i guess i just dont like the fact of not getting a job so i go cheap but i think thats quite alot of money 140 and i am happy with that of course if i could earn 300 a day that would be very good but im just not getting anywere near that dont no how some of u get that as a day rate .
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I mean the area i live in aint to bad i clean a few big big houses and i charge about 140 pounds witch i think is good and realistic price for
a day and they grumble at that lol i would never get any work if i charged more than that i guess i just dont like the fact of not getting a job so i go cheap but i think thats quite alot of money 140 and i am happy with that of course if i could earn 300 a day that would be very good but im just not getting anywere near that dont no how some of u get that as a day rate .
Don't forget, there's a huge amount of bs these idiots talk.
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Jesus! It's not a day rate.
If you can't sell yourself for more than £140 for a days work then you need to learn how to. If you cut yourself short and take work at a cheaper rate than it should be done at then you've got more to learn. If you're continually thinking you can't - you won't.
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I mean the area i live in aint to bad i clean a few big big houses and i charge about 140 pounds witch i think is good and realistic price for
a day and they grumble at that lol i would never get any work if i charged more than that i guess i just dont like the fact of not getting a job so i go cheap but i think thats quite alot of money 140 and i am happy with that of course if i could earn 300 a day that would be very good but im just not getting anywere near that dont no how some of u get that as a day rate .
Don't forget, there's a huge amount of bs these idiots talk.
Yeah its totally not achievable.
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Just put in our BIGGEST ever quote for a domestic property. Inside & out £2400.00. Been accepted. Will take 4 blokes 2 days to do.
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I recently was asked to give a day rate price for two guys for a day once a fortnight on a continuing basis to clean a large facility. Considering it was likely to be as regular as they wanted and was likely to be able to cover the costs of a new van I knocked £30 a day off our day rate to help to gain the work.
Eventually it went to a shower of cleaners that charged their day rate out (2 guys, a van, a days water and all associated kit) for £250. They were welcome to it at that price. I'm half expecting a call in a few months.
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Just put in our BIGGEST ever quote for a domestic property. Inside & out £2400.00. Been accepted. Will take 4 blokes 2 days to do.
Nice! Good job - well done.
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Good work!
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James the longer you stay in this game the more savvy you will get, what feels like good money now won't feel the same in 12 months, the big houses you've got now that take a whole day won't pay the same as you're normal everyday work once you have the correct amount of customers
Graham
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I mean the area i live in aint to bad i clean a few big big houses and i charge about 140 pounds witch i think is good and realistic price for
a day and they grumble at that lol i would never get any work if i charged more than that i guess i just dont like the fact of not getting a job so i go cheap but i think thats quite alot of money 140 and i am happy with that of course if i could earn 300 a day that would be very good but im just not getting anywere near that dont no how some of u get that as a day rate .
Don't forget, there's a huge amount of bs these idiots talk.
Yeah its totally not achievable.
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It most definitely is, it just seems the pikey mondo lot are the ones boasting ;D
They clearly don't earn decent money.
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300 plus a day is achievable for some on here who brag, I can believe it. 140 is a good wage compared to other unskilled jobs. Somewhere in the middle would be ideal. Just depends if your prices are good, work is compact, you work efficiently and are quick to earn good money. Takes time and the incentive to work smarter, naturally. If you can't price decent, have work spread out and are very slow with a poor technique earning a low wage, consider learning from others who are better than you or join the dole brigade and get paid for doing nothing.
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James AJF,
Are you asking if people earn £300 per day window cleaning a number of houses.....
Or, if people charge a 'day rate' of £300 for window cleaning 1 house.
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maybe the problem is in the title of the thread "get away with it" ............. charging a good price for yourself has nothing to do with getting away with anything .... I provide a service and people pay me. By saying get away with it sounds as if you don't perhaps value what you are providing ?? ........... I like lots on here provide a good service with high standards and the way I see it the customers are lucky to have good reliable window cleaners such as us :)
I have never earned £300 in a day (close one or twice) from just windows however I know a few that have so yes I believe it is possible ... whether day in day out though is another matter though. .... however if I did I wouldn't say on a forum ;D
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James your forgetting that the guys on here who take in £300 a day spend £220 a day on expenses.
They never get a problem window using wfp and can clean a mansion in 10 minutes with perfect results
every time.
You also need to remember that the same guys will have served an apprenticeship in window cleaning and will also
have a large student loan to repay for getting their degree in cleaning studies.
I'm just waiting for the (if your only earning £140 a day you would be better off working in Mc Donalds when you
take out your expenses) reply.
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If you are happy with £140 a day, why do you care what someone on the internet says they earn? If you want more than £140; charge more, if you're happy at £140; don't.
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The thing is when you set your own prices your never really happy, there always that feeling in the back
of your mind...could I be getting a bit more.
Soupy is spot on, set your own targets and aim to achieve them.
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James,
Your signature says it all.
bish bash bosh ???
Andy
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I been cleaning windows now for 7 years
im water fed and trad im always listening to
other window cleaners and reading on this forum about
how much they charge for a day rate and im gob smacked
One guy said £300 pounds. who would pay that much for a clean
i mean anyone can clean a window cant they i have never earned that much
for a day on a domestic property i just cant believe somone would pay that
:-X or am i wrong?? i clean for some big property's and they moan at a £100 a day i dont think i would have a business at all if i was charging £300 pounds a day :-\
Wayne Rooney only kicks a ball about??
Oh, and I bet that no one ever actually moaned at £100 a day. You just expect them to.
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He is not saying £300 a day on domestic houses.
He is is saying £300 on one house. One clean.
Last big house I quoted was £270 and she was like oooohhh no we paid £130 and they were here all day. So two men all day for £130. Probably the OP
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In our area there will be customers who expect a day's work for £100. There will also be some who expect to pay £200 (probably more people in this group than the first group). There'd be fewer who expect to pay £300 and there'll be some who are happy to pay £400+. In different areas the numbers may be different: Kensington higher, Livingston lower.
The same goes for the price of a clean of a standard house, if we're discussing that rather than a day rate.
Basic economics says that there will be suppliers at each of those levels. If you doubt the lower numbers, imagine someone on the dole who's offered £50 cash for a day's work. He'll probably take it.
So, as far as I'm concerned, it's your choice which market you go for. I'm not suggesting you should go for the £400 customers, as they will be tougher to gain and retain (you'll need to offer a good service - not just get their windows clean) than the £200 people, just that it's up to you which market you go for.
And it's not a matter of "getting away with" anything. If someone's happy to pay a price (whatever that might be), they'll be happy customers. Very happy.
So, go for whatever day rate you want and don't care about what other people are doing.
Vin
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I think James is undercover and looking info ! Are you a taxman James?
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Seank........
If all you can earn is £100 for a FULL day (like the original poster mentioned)
Then yes you may as well get a job in mcdonalds, or Aldis. They pay £14 an hour ish.
Unless of course like yourself you only spend £3.99 a year on all your fuel/equipment and insurances.
;D
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Seank........
If all you can earn is £100 for a FULL day (like the original poster mentioned)
Then yes you may as well get a job in mcdonalds, or Aldis. They pay £14 an hour ish.
Unless of course like yourself you only spend £3.99 a year on all your fuel/equipment and insurances.
;D
£14 an hour in Mc Donalds. ??? any wonder shiners have to charge so much in your world. ;D
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Just put in our BIGGEST ever quote for a domestic property. Inside & out £2400.00. Been accepted. Will take 4 blokes 2 days to do.
is that a builders clean
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Never do a day rate. Day/hourly rates are for gardeners etc, and that severely limits their achievable income!
I am a one man band, admittedly not in a poor area, and my round is far from compact, but i still aim to earn £150 per day which imo is at least what you need as a self employed man. Sometimes i earn more, sometimes less (wintertime/short days etc).
Never cracked £300 in a day tho, altho have gone mid £200's on a fair few occasions, but these not the norm.
Plus...I am old lmao
Graham
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Mine the same as above but I did crack £361 beginning of last month. first time ever..... and he was a musician and music producer (my own simon cowel) so was loaded.
I did spend half a day there and then went off and did more houses to get that high. paid for 2 days at Disney paris...:)
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To be honest Graham its not always about working in a rich or poor area its more about what you do for
the money.
If your working in a poor area your not going to be cleaning the frames doors and sills as you wont get the price
needed to cover this amount of work.
So in them circumstances your going to need more compact work and do more properties over the day to make
a reasonable living.
Even what you say about needing a £150 a day for a self employed man, that could be more than enough in some areas
but in the likes of London wouldn't be near enough.
Is it possible to earn £300 a day or more, I'm sure it is in certain parts of the U.K. but would them prices be the
average over the whole country I very much doubt it.
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I know a couple of window cleaners who have had a 'good day' and then tell people that's what they're on every day, because they did it once, so its not always accurate. If I did my best day ever every day I'd only need to work two days a week!
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And they were so knackered they didn't work the next day!
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I know a couple of window cleaners who have had a 'good day' and then tell people that's what they're on every day, because they did it once, so its not always accurate. If I did my best day ever every day I'd only need to work two days a week!
Yep my thoughts exactly. Cleaners get confused with Best day Vs average day. What does annoy me is when people say 2/3/400 aint possible every day on domestic. it is very possible.
If i did all my cream work in one day i reakon it would be close to a £500 day. Now if i could replicate that every day for 4 weeks i would be laughing. Can i do it, nope. Too many new wc's now.
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Well Sean, my ethos is I will be a window cleaner, and not just a glass cleaner. A window when bought includes frames, so to clean a window includes frames (for me anyway). So obviously I am going to cost more than somebody who just makes the glass clean and leaves the frames minging. THis works fine for me, maybe I'm just lucky, although I like to think it's because my customers appreciate a job being done properly as opposed to a job being done cheaply and hurriedly, and also the benefits are your best (recommended) work is likely to be for peeps who want the job doing well and are prepared to pay a little bit more.
Our area here is swarming with windies who work for ridiculously cheap prices, so I have no desire to compete on their terms as I take pride in what I do, and there are plenty of custies prepared to pay for the service, might have to travel a wee bit between most jobs but who cares 8)
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i think for most of us well established WFP window cleaners(up north anyway).£180-£250 turnover is the norm for a 6 or 7 hour day "on the glass".as for day rates for large houses.i dont clean any that take all day to clean.if i ever do then my minimum charge would be £200.
lots of other things come into play though like bad weather,shorter days due to low motivation/time of year,unexpected days off due to illness/injury/van repairs/MOT etc and of course time off for holidays that are unpaid.
add on expenses,insurance and tax then the £180-£250 average day rate isnt that great.ok better than a lot of unskilled jobs.you can still make a good profit at the end of the year to keep you motivated to carry on with window cleaning but IMO if your day rates more like £100-£140 then your gonna struggle to make a good profit at the end of the year after all expenses and tax are deducted.in fact id go as far to say that you ll only just "get by" paying bills and have very little disposable income to spend on the luxuries in life unless you price better and work more efficiently.
i speak from experience and the OP seems to have the same attitude that i used to have years ago which thankfully ive changed due to this forum,being more focused and motivated and adopting a professional approach in all areas of my business esp in regards to pricing work,organization etc.
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Well Sean, my ethos is I will be a window cleaner, and not just a glass cleaner. A window when bought includes frames, so to clean a window includes frames (for me anyway). So obviously I am going to cost more than somebody who just makes the glass clean and leaves the frames minging. THis works fine for me, maybe I'm just lucky, although I like to think it's because my customers appreciate a job being done properly as opposed to a job being done cheaply and hurriedly, and also the benefits are your best (recommended) work is likely to be for peeps who want the job doing well and are prepared to pay a little bit more.
Our area here is swarming with windies who work for ridiculously cheap prices, so I have no desire to compete on their terms as I take pride in what I do, and there are plenty of custies prepared to pay for the service, might have to travel a wee bit between most jobs but who cares 8)
Graham totally agree with you as I work the same way myself, but there are areas where I couldn't work as I couldn't
get the money needed to cover my ocd.
Was just pointing out that you can still make money in these areas by using different methods, if a person can only afford to
have their glass cleaned then they will appreciate you as much as somebody who can afford a complete clean.
Never confuse genuine decent people who cant afford to pay £20 a month to have their windows cleaned with chancers who
want something for nothing and stupid window cleaners who are prepared to work for it.
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Graham totally agree with you as I work the same way myself, but there are areas where I couldn't work as I couldn't
get the money needed to cover my ocd.
Was just pointing out that you can still make money in these areas by using different methods, if a person can only afford to
have their glass cleaned then they will appreciate you as much as somebody who can afford a complete clean.
Never confuse genuine decent people who cant afford to pay £20 a month to have their windows cleaned with chancers who
want something for nothing and stupid window cleaners who are prepared to work for it.
Fair comment
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Talk about chancers, woman approached me this week she lives in a big five bed detached...
My window cleaner has quit would you be able to do mine and what would you charge.
I said £15 but it will be going up in the new year to £17.
She went pale and said my last cleaner only charged £5 I will text you and let you know... I replied O.K.
There's more chance of me winning the lottery than she has of me cleaning her windows even if she agrees to my
price.
I just cant stand anybody who would expect somebody to do that amount of work for so little money.
The thing is I know the guy was cleaning them for that price.
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i think for most of us well established WFP window cleaners(up north anyway).£180-£250 turnover is the norm for a 6 or 7 hour day "on the glass".as for day rates for large houses.i dont clean any that take all day to clean.if i ever do then my minimum charge would be £200.
lots of other things come into play though like bad weather,shorter days due to low motivation/time of year,unexpected days off due to illness/injury/van repairs/MOT etc and of course time off for holidays that are unpaid.
add on expenses,insurance and tax then the £180-£250 average day rate isnt that great.ok better than a lot of unskilled jobs.you can still make a good profit at the end of the year to keep you motivated to carry on with window cleaning but IMO if your day rates more like £100-£140 then your gonna struggle to make a good profit at the end of the year after all expenses and tax are deducted.in fact id go as far to say that you ll only just "get by" paying bills and have very little disposable income to spend on the luxuries in life unless you price better and work more efficiently.
i speak from experience and the OP seems to have the same attitude that i used to have years ago which thankfully ive changed due to this forum,being more focused and motivated and adopting a professional approach in all areas of my business esp in regards to pricing work,organization etc.
i cold live on a £100 a day and save money
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I been cleaning windows now for 7 years
im water fed and trad im always listening to
other window cleaners and reading on this forum about
how much they charge for a day rate and im gob smacked
One guy said £300 pounds. who would pay that much for a clean
i mean anyone can clean a window cant they i have never earned that much
for a day on a domestic property i just cant believe somone would pay that
:-X or am i wrong?? i clean for some big property's and they moan at a £100 a day i dont think i would have a business at all if i was charging £300 pounds a day :-\its simple work on £30 an hour including travelling time. then work a 10 hour day equals £300 a day
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You could always work harder as well.
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Sometimes when I'm working in East London I get water from a place in Darenth, nr Dartford near where the A2 meets the M25.
A while back I was there when another window cleaner was piling barrels of water into a smallish car that was then to my way of thinking seriously over loaded.
When I said to the (ex window cleaner) bloke who sells the water about it he said that to read what the bloke says on a window cleaning forum I'd just laugh as he claims to earn an impossible amount each day from a few barrels in a small car.
Yes, that window cleaner posts on this forum. I won't say who he is and yes, when I read some of what he posts, he talks the talk but in real life, he's a Walter Mitty.
Mate, you know who you are but don't worry - I won't burst your bubble.
I think there's more than a few of them on this forum.
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Spill the beans who is it???
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Sometimes when I'm working in East London I get water from a place in Darenth, nr Dartford near where the A2 meets the M25.
A while back I was there when another window cleaner was piling barrels of water into a smallish car that was then to my way of thinking seriously over loaded.
When I said to the (ex window cleaner) bloke who sells the water about it he said that to read what the bloke says on a window cleaning forum I'd just laugh as he claims to earn an impossible amount each day from a few barrels in a small car.
Yes, that window cleaner posts on this forum. I won't say who he is and yes, when I read some of what he posts, he talks the talk but in real life, he's a Walter Mitty.
Mate, you know who you are but don't worry - I won't burst your bubble.
I think there's more than a few of them on this forum.
Aw no way. You can't leave us hanging like that. Haha.
Even a clue?
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Spill the beans who is it???
Nope. Sorry. No way. I was told in confidence.
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I use a astra estate and only earn £3000 a day so it cant be
me ;D
Come on Ross spill! :)
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I don't know why but its seems to be a window cleaner thing, I know guys now working in
factories who still boast about what they where earning when cleaning windows.
Yet they walked away from this fortune maker to work in a factory for £10 an hour.
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Mick Kent ;D
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Mick Kent ;D
;D clues in the location ;D
Dont work in secret services Ross.... ;)
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:o. Noooo i have been sussed out! Anyone selling a harris pole or giving away any old used and abused poles please?? ;D
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Talk about chancers, woman approached me this week she lives in a big five bed detached...
My window cleaner has quit would you be able to do mine and what would you charge.
I said £15 but it will be going up in the new year to £17.
She went pale and said my last cleaner only charged £5 I will text you and let you know... I replied O.K.
There's more chance of me winning the lottery than she has of me cleaning her windows even if she agrees to my
price.
I just cant stand anybody who would expect somebody to do that amount of work for so little money.
The thing is I know the guy was cleaning them for that price.
£15 for a big five bed detached house ??? ??? ???
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Same as a local cleaner who I know.
Little does he know he cleans two of my friends.
"Yeah mate £25 house each them two"
Oh really?
Try 12.50 £ each.
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Sometimes the emptiest vessels make the loudest noise.
Only believe half of what you see, and nothing that you hear.
;D
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Sometimes the emptiest vessels make the loudest noise.
Only believe half of what you see, and nothing that you hear.
;D
That's almost a Bruce Springsteen lyric there "Trust none of what you hear
And less of what you see"
You should change your name from Johnny 87 to Johnny 99 ;D
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Sometimes the emptiest vessels make the loudest noise.
Only believe half of what you see, and nothing that you hear.
;D
That's almost a Bruce Springsteen lyric there "Trust none of what you hear
And less of what you see"
You should change your name from Johnny 87 to Johnny 99 ;D
Hahaha
;D
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Spill the beans who is it???
Don't tell um, Ross :-X.
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;D clues in the location ;D
Dont work in secret services Ross.... ;)
Location - that's why I mentioned it. To hopefully curtail the BS because that is not good for him and it also paints a false picture on here as to what is achievable for most wfp windies.
It ain't Mr Mick Kent though.
The bloke who supplies the water used to post on here as well a few years back when he was window cleaning. He advertises pure water on ebay and that has been mentioned on here in the past.
Spill the beans who is it???
Don't tell um, Ross :-X.
I said I won't and I won't.
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Spill the beans who is it???
Don't tell um, Ross :-X.
Assume it's you?
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Great thread this, read many interesting replies.
Ross - I think you should name and shame, your letting someone on this forum spout out rubbish and falsehoods to the detriment of the rest of us and this forum.
As it stands your claim is as wild, and most likely false as your supposed chap who uses his car and barrels, it also reflects badly on the likes of mick Kent who are also in that area.
Do the right thing Ross, tell us, or forever be known as a windup merchant
Darran
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To be honest guys its easy to suss out most of the braggers on here you just need to read their
back posts.
Put it this way there's one guy on here who's been cleaning windows and making a fortune for many years, going
by his age he must have started his business at the ripe old age of 10.
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Go on then, who are the windup mechants? SeanK.
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To be honest guys its easy to suss out most of the braggers on here you just need to read their
back posts.
Put it this way there's one guy on here who's been cleaning windows and making a fortune for many years, going
by his age he must have started his business at the ripe old age of 10.
This is true, but it's nice to have a bona fide "outing" which may make others think twice about hyping everything up
Darran
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No one will suspect for a second that it was me, but for your information I used to have work in Darenth until I moved to Ireland.
I am not bothered who it is, as I don't get carried away by outlandish claims and try to match or beat them. Isn't it better simply to concentrate on our own businesses and let the braggers get on with theirs?
John.
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Spill the beans who is it???
Don't tell um, Ross :-X.
Assume it's you?
If you like.
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Go on then, who are the windup mechants? SeanK.
Yes, do tell Sean.
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If someone has said its me ill allow you to spill the beans ;D
i dont use my car for wfp as its too nice for work but if i did i assure you it could handle more water than some vans can ;-).
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If someone has said its me ill allow you to spill the beans ;D
i dont use my car for wfp as its too nice for work but if i did i assure you it could handle more water than some vans can ;-).
Also, you'd need to charge £50 for the fronts, just to pay for the diesel...
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Mick kent posted his car on here a while ago it's not him ;-)
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Was there not a "pole king" on here but think he changed his username? Thought he was down that neck of the woods.
Sorry in advance if I'm wrong. Don't shoot me. ;D
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Was there not a "pole king" on here but think he changed his username? Thought he was down that neck of the woods.
Sorry in advance if I'm wrong. Don't shoot me. ;D
Aye, got to be durty Darren aka poleking aka DoleQueen..
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Great thread this, read many interesting replies.
Ross - I think you should name and shame, your letting someone on this forum spout out rubbish and falsehoods to the detriment of the rest of us and this forum.
As it stands your claim is as wild, and most likely false as your supposed chap who uses his car and barrels, it also reflects badly on the likes of mick Kent who are also in that area.
Do the right thing Ross, tell us, or forever be known as a windup merchant
Darran
Darren, the point I was making has nothing to do with mud slinging or naming and shaming. I was making the point that some, and notice the word 'some', who post on here make out they're something they're not and post according to those delusions.
If you want to think of what I posted as a lie, then obviously that is your choice and sorry, but being portrayed as a wind up merchant for eternity? I couldn't care less.
I also don't understand how what I posted reflects badly on Mick Kent and others who work around that area.
Also, for the second time, it isn't Mick Kent.
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Ross, I fear you protest to much 😝😝😝
Go on just 'out' mick who it is, as you see the mud singling and finger pointing will continue...
Darran
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Ok.
It was Mick Kent.
He was driving a Reliant Robin and not only was it over loaded, he had several barrels with wheels on and was towing them behind in a long line.
I never realised he was 3ft 2ins tall though.
;D
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Ok ok here is my setup.
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You've had the car resprayed then to a different colour?
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Yea it needed it, was getting rusty from all the pure leaking out of the barrels where my rear suspension had gone from overloading so filled most of the rust, uprated the springs and also sprayed it a more rusty colour so wouldnt look out of place when more rust bites through.
Still i can clean £500 a day in it with 6 barrels so does me for now untill i can afford something a bit better like a focus or even volvo estate. Who knows what the future will bring.
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£500 a day, what are you? Lazy? I do that before lunch.
I'm glad to see you've no longer got the barrels hanging off the side of the car as well.
A Volvo Estate - they're easy to buy pre rusted through so you won't have any problems there.
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I mean the area i live in aint to bad i clean a few big big houses and i charge about 140 pounds witch i think is good and realistic price for
a day and they grumble at that lol i would never get any work if i charged more than that i guess i just dont like the fact of not getting a job so i go cheap but i think thats quite alot of money 140 and i am happy with that of course if i could earn 300 a day that would be very good but im just not getting anywere near that dont no how some of u get that as a day rate .
Is £140 for the outsides only and does it really take you all day? Could you do the insides as well in the same day if so then that is your £300+ a day as you would normally charge more for the insides compared to the outs. In my experience BIG house owners want the insides done.
Simon.
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Ok ok here is my setup.
If that was an astra estate,that could be me ;D