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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: cornwallwindows on August 23, 2014, 08:33:26 am
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Finding I'm getting increasing annoyed at my hose/protective ball getting caught on things, snagging and generally being a bloody nuisance! Also finding that rinsing off the windows takes probably longer than scrubbing them......and scrapping off crap from the windows can be a mare.
So are there any gadgets, homemade or bought that just makes life easier when out pole pushing?
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the hose is a pain, full stop. Nothing we can do about that. Its part of the job.
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gardiners super scrapers with scrub pads.removes birdmuck,pollen spots etc easier.
extreme poles 25ft and 47ft and brushes.makes poling all day a whole lot easier.
i never use protector balls.just rectus 26 connectors which last ages compared to rectus 21s.
i work with a high flow which makes rinsing quicker.
working with long hoses all day can be frustrating sometimes but usually better than using a backpack(but not always!). ;D
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Unfortunately hoses are something we just have to put up with, I never find bird muck much
of a problem as along as you let it soak for a few minutes.
Experiment with your rinsing and scrubbing you will find that very little rinsing is required
most over rinse and over scrub because they lack confidence in the method.
I tend to scrub more and rinse less because when I scrub I'm not holding the pole off the glass which is harder on the
joints. Don't forget when your scrubbing your still rinsing dirt of the glass.
You will even find guys who don't rinse at all and don't have problems.
You do get a few arguments on here about which is best a high or low flow but to be honest everybody
has their own preference that suits them best and everybody has a different idea of what they class as a high
or low flow.
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Unfortunately hoses are something we just have to put up with, I never find bird muck much
of a problem as along as you let it soak for a few minutes.
Experiment with your rinsing and scrubbing you will find that very little rinsing is required
most over rinse and over scrub because they lack confidence in the method.
I tend to scrub more and rinse less because when I scrub I'm not holding the pole off the glass which is harder on the
joints. Don't forget when your scrubbing your still rinsing dirt of the glass.
You will even find guys who don't rinse at all and don't have problems.
You do get a few arguments on here about which is best a high or low flow but to be honest everybody
has their own preference that suits them best and everybody has a different idea of what they class as a high
or low flow.
If you don't rinse enough you will be leaving foreign bodies on the glass. I don't know of any window cleaners who don't rinse at all, but you can be sure if they don't rinse at all they won't be doing a very good job.
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Unfortunately hoses are something we just have to put up with, I never find bird muck much
of a problem as along as you let it soak for a few minutes.
Experiment with your rinsing and scrubbing you will find that very little rinsing is required
most over rinse and over scrub because they lack confidence in the method.
I tend to scrub more and rinse less because when I scrub I'm not holding the pole off the glass which is harder on the
joints. Don't forget when your scrubbing your still rinsing dirt of the glass.
You will even find guys who don't rinse at all and don't have problems.
You do get a few arguments on here about which is best a high or low flow but to be honest everybody
has their own preference that suits them best and everybody has a different idea of what they class as a high
or low flow.
If you don't rinse enough you will be leaving foreign bodies on the glass. I don't know of any window cleaners who don't rinse at all, but you can be sure if they don't rinse at all they won't be doing a very good job.
Did you ever hear of rinsing on the glass, that's nothing more than a light scrub, and yes there guys on here who don't
rinse.
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Unfortunately hoses are something we just have to put up with, I never find bird muck much
of a problem as along as you let it soak for a few minutes.
Experiment with your rinsing and scrubbing you will find that very little rinsing is required
most over rinse and over scrub because they lack confidence in the method.
I tend to scrub more and rinse less because when I scrub I'm not holding the pole off the glass which is harder on the
joints. Don't forget when your scrubbing your still rinsing dirt of the glass.
You will even find guys who don't rinse at all and don't have problems.
You do get a few arguments on here about which is best a high or low flow but to be honest everybody
has their own preference that suits them best and everybody has a different idea of what they class as a high
or low flow.
If you don't rinse enough you will be leaving foreign bodies on the glass. I don't know of any window cleaners who don't rinse at all, but you can be sure if they don't rinse at all they won't be doing a very good job.
Did you ever hear of rinsing on the glass, that's nothing more than a light scrub, and yes there guys on here who don't
rinse.
You really do get your knickers in a twist when someone disagrees with you don't you! Yes I've heard of rinsing on, I do it myself sometimes.
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Unfortunately hoses are something we just have to put up with, I never find bird muck much
of a problem as along as you let it soak for a few minutes.
Experiment with your rinsing and scrubbing you will find that very little rinsing is required
most over rinse and over scrub because they lack confidence in the method.
I tend to scrub more and rinse less because when I scrub I'm not holding the pole off the glass which is harder on the
joints. Don't forget when your scrubbing your still rinsing dirt of the glass.
You will even find guys who don't rinse at all and don't have problems.
You do get a few arguments on here about which is best a high or low flow but to be honest everybody
has their own preference that suits them best and everybody has a different idea of what they class as a high
or low flow.
If you don't rinse enough you will be leaving foreign bodies on the glass. I don't know of any window cleaners who don't rinse at all, but you can be sure if they don't rinse at all they won't be doing a very good job.
Did you ever hear of rinsing on the glass, that's nothing more than a light scrub, and yes there guys on here who don't
rinse.
You really do get your knickers in a twist when someone disagrees with you don't you! Yes I've heard of rinsing on, I do it myself sometimes.
So because I replied to your post my knickers are in a twist. ::)roll
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Aworka, GoCardless it seems now.
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Unfortunately hoses are something we just have to put up with, I never find bird muck much
of a problem as along as you let it soak for a few minutes.
Experiment with your rinsing and scrubbing you will find that very little rinsing is required
most over rinse and over scrub because they lack confidence in the method.
I tend to scrub more and rinse less because when I scrub I'm not holding the pole off the glass which is harder on the
joints. Don't forget when your scrubbing your still rinsing dirt of the glass.
You will even find guys who don't rinse at all and don't have problems.
You do get a few arguments on here about which is best a high or low flow but to be honest everybody
has their own preference that suits them best and everybody has a different idea of what they class as a high
or low flow.
If you don't rinse enough you will be leaving foreign bodies on the glass. I don't know of any window cleaners who don't rinse at all, but you can be sure if they don't rinse at all they won't be doing a very good job.
Did you ever hear of rinsing on the glass, that's nothing more than a light scrub, and yes there guys on here who don't
rinse.
You really do get your knickers in a twist when someone disagrees with you don't you! Yes I've heard of rinsing on, I do it myself sometimes.
So because I replied to your post my knickers are in a twist. ::)roll
You replied in a condescending manner ::)roll
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Pure freedom pole tidy, couldn't stand having loads of loose pole hose in my van.
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Mounted hose reels at shoulder height.
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Unfortunately hoses are something we just have to put up with, I never find bird muck much
of a problem as along as you let it soak for a few minutes.
Experiment with your rinsing and scrubbing you will find that very little rinsing is required
most over rinse and over scrub because they lack confidence in the method.
I tend to scrub more and rinse less because when I scrub I'm not holding the pole off the glass which is harder on the
joints. Don't forget when your scrubbing your still rinsing dirt of the glass.
You will even find guys who don't rinse at all and don't have problems.
You do get a few arguments on here about which is best a high or low flow but to be honest everybody
has their own preference that suits them best and everybody has a different idea of what they class as a high
or low flow.
If you don't rinse enough you will be leaving foreign bodies on the glass. I don't know of any window cleaners who don't rinse at all, but you can be sure if they don't rinse at all they won't be doing a very good job.
Did you ever hear of rinsing on the glass, that's nothing more than a light scrub, and yes there guys on here who don't
rinse.
You really do get your knickers in a twist when someone disagrees with you don't you! Yes I've heard of rinsing on, I do it myself sometimes.
So because I replied to your post my knickers are in a twist. ::)roll
You replied in a condescending manner ::)roll
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I think the flipfast is a great bit of kit and rarely mentioned on this forum.
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As regards op, DARREN
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Finding I'm getting increasing annoyed at my hose/protective ball getting caught on things, snagging and generally being a bloody nuisance! Also finding that rinsing off the windows takes probably longer than scrubbing them......and scrapping off crap from the windows can be a mare.
So are there any gadgets, homemade or bought that just makes life easier when out pole pushing?
aqua tap for me
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Van
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cash ;D ;D ;D
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cash ;D ;D ;D
like it ;D
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A ladder
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryH1qgKYvYE&feature=youtu.be
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my Bitch Bob Plumb makes my day easier esp on bacon buttie run :D
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryH1qgKYvYE&feature=youtu.be
That's an understandable suggestion. Home-made?
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I bought 2 cheap reels from amazon and the first one lasted 2 years before it broke. then I bought a metal one from gardiner and although it was £20 extra you can see its going to last many more years.
buying decent equipment helps but when your starting out its not always possible. I also have 2 types of 6mm hose. the old one is smooth and the new one has bumps on it, this is actually quite annoying as it causes it to be harder to wind up because. another lesson learned.. buy a smooth 100m hose. I also have my reels anchored to my van at shoulder height so I dont bend over too much.
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I use pole hose as my main hose on the reel. ;)
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Koopmaster, do you have a pic of your mounted reel please
Rich
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The one out of Gremlins.
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Sorry , pure H2O , upon re reading , i see that it should have been you that i asked !!!
Do you have any pics of your reel set up please as my back is on the way to being shafted
Cheers Rich
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Sorry , pure H2O , upon re reading , i see that it should have been you that i asked !!!
Do you have any pics of your reel set up please as my back is on the way to being shafted
Cheers Rich
I was like to see that as well please.
I also noticed on another thread you have 'developed' a better led light in the back of your van. I would like to see that as well please.
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Pure H2O have you got any snaps of the missus too, preferably in the buff.
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I haven't got any pictures to hand really. I am doing a video for my channel on Youtube though. Don't know when that is though.
Don't know if this will work...............
https://www.facebook.com/378847752185269/photos/pb.378847752185269.-2207520000.1409038469./704771829592858/?type=1&theater
Looks like it has, only difference for the next one i am doing is its having electric reels.
Spruce - i will snap some pics. Basically i worked out it was far better to have the lights spread out instead of one long strip (simple i know)
I found 38mm festoon bulbs online for crazy money (Less than £2) but these are LED. So i purchased ford bulbs holders, and the bulbs and made a loom. Will try and snap a pic of it.
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Hi Guys,
If you click on the link below you will see interior glass and mirror cleaning system that is very useful in that it cleans perfectly and eliminates spillages and splashes
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55633448/Interior%20Glass%20and%20Mirror%20Cleaning.MOV
regards
Tadgh
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Hi Guys,
If you click on the link below you will see interior glass and mirror cleaning system that is very useful in that it cleans perfectly and eliminates spillages and splashes
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55633448/Interior%20Glass%20and%20Mirror%20Cleaning.MOV
regards
Tadgh
Just got some cloths from paragon but been waiting for your website to try a few of your cloths.
That video is no good,you need to show us that done 5 to 10 times faster than that.
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I haven't got any pictures to hand really. I am doing a video for my channel on Youtube though. Don't know when that is though.
Don't know if this will work...............
https://www.facebook.com/378847752185269/photos/pb.378847752185269.-2207520000.1409038469./704771829592858/?type=1&theater
Looks like it has, only difference for the next one i am doing is its having electric reels.
Spruce - i will snap some pics. Basically i worked out it was far better to have the lights spread out instead of one long strip (simple i know)
I found 38mm festoon bulbs online for crazy money (Less than £2) but these are LED. So i purchased ford bulbs holders, and the bulbs and made a loom. Will try and snap a pic of it.
Thank you.
I was thinking of these;
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130853872251?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
I know they are 'expensive' but at least they will light up the van.
or
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/371091786624?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
a couple of these are cheaper and probably just as good.
My van's interior cabin lights have a couple of those festoon bulbs which I was also going to try. The cargo bay interior light is positioned at the rear doors and is just a glow, so filling the van up during winter requires a torch so I can watch the tank level.
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The ebay link to the blue custom transit is my friends. HIGHLY rates them at its his pictures of his van.
Mine cost just shy of £200 but mine looks totally OEM, and the lighting is perfect.
I can clean after hours so need good lighting.
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I haven't got any pictures to hand really. I am doing a video for my channel on Youtube though. Don't know when that is though.
Don't know if this will work...............
https://www.facebook.com/378847752185269/photos/pb.378847752185269.-2207520000.1409038469./704771829592858/?type=1&theater
Looks like it has, only difference for the next one i am doing is its having electric reels.
Spruce - i will snap some pics. Basically i worked out it was far better to have the lights spread out instead of one long strip (simple i know)
I found 38mm festoon bulbs online for crazy money (Less than £2) but these are LED. So i purchased ford bulbs holders, and the bulbs and made a loom. Will try and snap a pic of it.
Wow.
I have just seen the picture of you van. Raising the hose reels into the roof area of the van on a frame is exactly what I was going to do. It great to see what it would look like.
Just a couple of questions if you don't mind.
Is your spare wheel still in place under the van (presuming that the spare wheel is under there on the new custom)? It looks as though it could still be.
The other observation is that the hose appears to exit on the rear left (nearside) corner. I presume that the other hose should exit on the other side. What size fairleads do you have and do they direct the hose without snagging or tightening up?
Thanks
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Due to the chassis rails we were very limited on what rollers we could actually fit.
Spare wheel is still in place as that was something that I required in the design.
We used square rollers with four rollers that you can buy from gardenier Pole Systems.
Letterbox style Fairland rollers would've been better but we were unable to fit them due to chassis rails as mentioned.
Winding in and winding out is very fast the only thing that really snags on is the actual tyres. Each roller allows the hose to reel out beyond hundred and 180°
I have just about Managed to get the reel set up so the hose doesn't unravel too quickly off the reel.
Each hose has three sets of rollers. Each reel is being converted though to the Cox electric reel as I have decided that I would prefer them to be electric.
I have a couple of extra fun features to add which I don't think I've ever been done before on a WFP van.
I am just waiting on a few more parts and then it goes in for its hot diesel treatment.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryH1qgKYvYE&feature=youtu.be
New guttering with a blocked neck ???
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Due to the chassis rails we were very limited on what rollers we could actually fit.
Spare wheel is still in place as that was something that I required in the design.
We used square rollers with four rollers that you can buy from gardenier Pole Systems.
Letterbox style Fairland rollers would've been better but we were unable to fit them due to chassis rails as mentioned.
Winding in and winding out is very fast the only thing that really snags on is the actual tyres. Each roller allows the hose to reel out beyond hundred and 180°
I have just about Managed to get the reel set up so the hose doesn't unravel too quickly off the reel.
Each hose has three sets of rollers. Each reel is being converted though to the Cox electric reel as I have decided that I would prefer them to be electric.
I have a couple of extra fun features to add which I don't think I've ever been done before on a WFP van.
I am just waiting on a few more parts and then it goes in for its hot diesel treatment.
Thanks for that Pure.
I presume you are going the cox electric route as a complete package or is this an upgrade to what you have? Electric reels seem more popular state side but I haven't come across many who have this option in UK outfits.
I'm trying to understand how much energy and back ache will be saved by my not having to lift hose reels in and out of the van every day as this is very difficult to quantify. I also find winding the hose in very energy zapping as I can't get into a squatting position anymore, so electric has been a consideration for a long time.
With you going the diesel heater route as well as electric hose reels, additional battery power is also a must as those heaters require a good energy source when starting up.
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Due to the chassis rails we were very limited on what rollers we could actually fit.
Spare wheel is still in place as that was something that I required in the design.
We used square rollers with four rollers that you can buy from gardenier Pole Systems.
Letterbox style Fairland rollers would've been better but we were unable to fit them due to chassis rails as mentioned.
Winding in and winding out is very fast the only thing that really snags on is the actual tyres. Each roller allows the hose to reel out beyond hundred and 180°
I have just about Managed to get the reel set up so the hose doesn't unravel too quickly off the reel.
Each hose has three sets of rollers. Each reel is being converted though to the Cox electric reel as I have decided that I would prefer them to be electric.
I have a couple of extra fun features to add which I don't think I've ever been done before on a WFP van.
I am just waiting on a few more parts and then it goes in for its hot diesel treatment.
Thanks for that Pure.
I presume you are going the cox electric route as a complete package or is this an upgrade to what you have? Electric reels seem more popular state side but I haven't come across many who have this option in UK outfits.
I'm trying to understand how much energy and back ache will be saved by my not having to lift hose reels in and out of the van every day as this is very difficult to quantify. I also find winding the hose in very energy zapping as I can't get into a squatting position anymore, so electric has been a consideration for a long time.
With you going the diesel heater route as well as electric hose reels, additional battery power is also a must as those heaters require a good energy source when starting up.
I bolted my hose reels in about 4 months ago. All I can say is that for me, my back is much improved. I am 51 and am a bit stiff in the mornings, but my chronic lower back ache has disappeared. I would NOT go back. No pun intended.
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Due to the chassis rails we were very limited on what rollers we could actually fit.
Spare wheel is still in place as that was something that I required in the design.
We used square rollers with four rollers that you can buy from gardenier Pole Systems.
Letterbox style Fairland rollers would've been better but we were unable to fit them due to chassis rails as mentioned.
Winding in and winding out is very fast the only thing that really snags on is the actual tyres. Each roller allows the hose to reel out beyond hundred and 180°
I have just about Managed to get the reel set up so the hose doesn't unravel too quickly off the reel.
Each hose has three sets of rollers. Each reel is being converted though to the Cox electric reel as I have decided that I would prefer them to be electric.
I have a couple of extra fun features to add which I don't think I've ever been done before on a WFP van.
I am just waiting on a few more parts and then it goes in for its hot diesel treatment.
Thanks for that Pure.
I presume you are going the cox electric route as a complete package or is this an upgrade to what you have? Electric reels seem more popular state side but I haven't come across many who have this option in UK outfits.
I'm trying to understand how much energy and back ache will be saved by my not having to lift hose reels in and out of the van every day as this is very difficult to quantify. I also find winding the hose in very energy zapping as I can't get into a squatting position anymore, so electric has been a consideration for a long time.
With you going the diesel heater route as well as electric hose reels, additional battery power is also a must as those heaters require a good energy source when starting up.
I bolted my hose reels in about 4 months ago. All I can say is that for me, my back is much improved. I am 51 and am a bit stiff in the mornings, but my chronic lower back ache has disappeared. I would NOT go back. No pun intended.
Thanks 8 Weekly. Its always good to hear of actual life experiences. I have 12 years on you so need to extend my working life as long as I can, but don't want to get involved in upgrades that will make minimal difference.
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I fell of a roof so suffer with a bad back. But I have managed to Improve it loads.
I would never EVER EVER EVER go back to un fixed reel. Never. Never. I would actually quit window cleaning.
Spruce. I had those coz reels mounted on the van floor first then I decided on the frame. Easier to wind in. More space in van and rollers work even better.
Taking these two reels out and fitting slightly different electric cox reels.
Battery wise yeah. I have 3 will be looking at 5 and a large solar panel on the roof.
But I have to say the grippa tank split charge relay is amazing.
Went to work with 12.6 in van. Worked all day and didn't move the van once. Two men on a massive glass roof. Drove home. 12.5 in van.
30 miles driven. I dunno how it works. But I had A mess about with a volt meter and the current varies A LOT.
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Cheers Pure.
Who are you getting the reels from and what are their cost of you don't mind me asking?
I contacted the manufacturers of Grippa's relays (Samlex) a few months back as I was skeptical about their claims. I was told by them that it is just a simple relay without any fancy electronics to speed up battery charging. So it just seems that I have to continue to supplementary charge my leisure battery as I do very little mileage.
Are these leisure batteries you are using or are they ordinary batteries? One of the local cleaners on here occasionally, swears by automotive Banner batteries. Although I have only good things to say about the Numax leisure batteries we have in all three vans, I may try a Banner battery when my leisure battery gives up (its nearly 3 1/2 years old. Son's Numax is now 4 years old.)
Thanks, I really appreciate your input so far.
I have just found 12v reels from Xline systems at £799.00 + VAT each. :'(
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You would do better with the power up reel from WCW. it's about £300/400 £
Jordan King is the developer.
Urmmm i don't know been WFP for 4 years and this is the only split
Charge relay to work so far as it should do.
I have 3 OEM ford batteries and a leisure numax I believe.
Reels wise they are coming in at just under 900£ each.
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