Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: sksnls on August 20, 2014, 09:05:05 pm
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I've been after a new machine for a while and have decided to buy the airflex storm but just not sure which size pump I should order. I don't offer hard floor cleaning so don't quite see the point in ordering a storm with the 800psi .I know if your running 100ft of pipe the 800psi will be beneficial however in reality I never normally run anymore than 25ft of hose only on the occasional 3 storey house. Does anybody have the storm with 200psi and wish they had the 800 one and equally does anyone have the 800psi and wish they had ordered the 200psi. ???
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not starting another Storm vs Enforcer thread but ...
your 200psi storm is just a 200psi pump and two 6.6 motors for 2350+
you can get a 400psi Enforcer with immersion heater and electro motors for about 100 less ...
you would be mad i say :)
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John - re the auto drain on the Airflex - would you know where i could get a gravity valve to fit?
or maybe a non return valve would do?
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This is like a non return valve
Just call cleansmart
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your 200psi storm is just a 200psi pump and two 6.6 motors for 2350+
you can get a 400psi Enforcer with immersion heater and electro motors for about 100 less ...
If you get the 200psi pump its cheaper than the 800psi. Also cheaper if you don't need the remote and pump out thingy
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your 200psi storm is just a 200psi pump and two 6.6 motors for 2350+
you can get a 400psi Enforcer with immersion heater and electro motors for about 100 less ...
If you get the 200psi pump its cheaper than the 800psi. Also cheaper if you don't need the remote and pump out thingy
price i quoted was for the 200psi machine ... not much for your money imo
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This is non like a return valve
Just call cleansmart
something like this would not do Radek ?
I really dont know which one is used ...
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/40mm-Standard-Check-Valve-Grey-uPVC-Pipe-Fitting-/321180977739?pt=UK_DIY_Materials_Plumbing_MJ&hash=item4ac7e0ca4b
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I'm not interested in the enforcer mainly because of ashbys poor customer service. just wanted to know any advantages / disadvantages of the different pumps
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This is non like a return valve
Just call cleansmart
something like this would not do Radek ?
I really dont know which one is used ...
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/40mm-Standard-Check-Valve-Grey-uPVC-Pipe-Fitting-/321180977739?pt=UK_DIY_Materials_Plumbing_MJ&hash=item4ac7e0ca4b
Think so
Here it is, the storm one:
(http://i61.tinypic.com/2prb2tg.jpg)
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This is non like a return valve
Just call cleansmart
something like this would not do Radek ?
I really dont know which one is used ...
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/40mm-Standard-Check-Valve-Grey-uPVC-Pipe-Fitting-/321180977739?pt=UK_DIY_Materials_Plumbing_MJ&hash=item4ac7e0ca4b
Think so
Here it is, the storm one:
(http://i61.tinypic.com/2prb2tg.jpg)
Interesting to see , Radek thanks .
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I'm not interested in the enforcer mainly because of ashbys poor customer service. just wanted to know any advantages / disadvantages of the different pumps
Fair enough ... no Enforcer ..
I run about 200 to 250 . It might depend on your tools , jetting , way of working . But you might have enough . Or get them to fit a 400 .
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Great thanks guys, I have seen that type when googling. Weird how Cleansmart said I couldn't get one for the Turbo when I called them?
Radek - I find the hoses on the Airflex a bit awkward for dropping into an external tank as they arent very flexible and keep wanting to come out. Have you extended them with some more flexible hosing?
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No, its very flexi, original from cleansmart.
On the picture the valve is one the cap of the tank, before the job i do open the lid and thats it.
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think my tank isnt close enough probably
thanks for the piccy - big help
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Spoke to Cleansmart this morning about the auto drain.
Basically they are saying its not really worth it unless you have remote off/on with the machine as otherwise you have to go back to the machine to turn it off and can just dump the dirty tank manually - makes sense!
The Airflex Turbo (triple vac) does not come with remote control and they do not advise running it off plug in remote controls as when the 2 vacs turn on at the same time on one cord that big initial amp draw can start causing problems - again makes sense to me as thats why i have never used the remote plugs in case it was a problem
So thats that then!!
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Think, if you have a waste tank on board then I would still do that.
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Radek
Could you post a picture of your machine set up ready to work in the van with the tank also what do you use to empty the dirty water into or do you have a hose that extends the dump hose.
Thanks Jim
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Any of you guys considered taking any of mentioned equipment for monthly payments as cleansmart offers such possibility at their website? ?
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yea i told Cleansmart i still wanted the auto dump valve and they said they would call me back with price etc, that was 9am...............................still waiting for call back :(
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John
do you have an in tank heater on your Inforcer? And if so what is the highest temperature it will go to ?
Stuart
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Had my Storm serviced yesterday at Cleansmart and had the auto dump removed as i very rarely use it, Mark fitted a screw fitting so i can easily re-attach pipe if i wanted to use it though. The other thing to bear in mind with the weaker pumps is that if they fail you might not be able to finish the job, with the 800 psi you get some warning apparently, i.e. pressure drop and leaking underneath but it should allow you to finish job. That's how it was explained to me yesterday anyway. Pump head needs replacing after approx 500 hours use at around £275 ish, mines holding pressure at the moment but expect to get this replaced in the next 3 - 6 months but i have had it now for getting on three years so it is well overdue in my case but still running sweet and after service yesterday after they replaced a few minor seals it is performing better than ever.
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Richard,how much was the service and was it done whilst you waited or did you leave it and return later?
My Turbo is about 18 months old now and I'm thinking about having it serviced.
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you can't say something will last 'x' amount of hours - it will all come down to how it is used and who is using it
pumps having cold, clean water through it will outlive ones having very hot water or powders through it
the motors on my old Scorpion lasted over 4 years, best to learn your own maintenance and how to use it properly
gotta say, my experience on my last calls to Cleansmart have been very poor, no call backs as promised and not that interested in talking to me at all was my impression.
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Wayne
Small service is £50 + vat which includes PAT test, i had some other work done, not to Storm, so that took a bit longer but just took myself to a retail park for a while.
I'm guessing i have done well over 500 hours and have looked after my machine, only clean water through pump, occasionally with acid rinse and run vac motors after every job for a few minutes to make sure there is no moisture on them. :)
Had very good service from Cleansmart, calls answered and looked after by Dee, Mark and Frank whilst there who all took time to speak to me, Matt was on holiday i think so did not see him this time.
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Radek
Could you post a picture of your machine set up ready to work in the van with the tank also what do you use to empty the dirty water into or do you have a hose that extends the dump hose.
Thanks Jim
No problem
Here is the machine by the 400L fresh water tank. Waste water pipe goes to the back to the dirty water tank.
(http://oi57.tinypic.com/xddvyq.jpg)
Then here is the back of the van. Dirty water tank bellow the reels. Suction hose and water hose to be connected here, not on the side, it is saving around two meters in lenght and thanks to this more often 15ft of hoses is enough for small houses.
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/9vd2l5.jpg)
And here, behind the water hose reel is the lid for dirty water tank
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/24uw9lh.jpg)
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John
do you have an in tank heater on your Inforcer? And if so what is the highest temperature it will go to ?
Stuart
The intank heater dial is fixed at 60 degrees to protect the pump ... you wouldn't hold your hand in 60 . I also have the CFR external heater , dont think i'd be without either .
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Cheers Radek what's the grey and black machine above your solution reel
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Cheers Radek what's the grey and black machine above your solution reel
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