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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Ian Rochester on August 14, 2014, 09:02:41 pm

Title: Brian from Extracta
Post by: Ian Rochester on August 14, 2014, 09:02:41 pm
Just to let everyone know that after the demise of Extracta on the Team Valley, Brian from Extracta has set up as a repair centre for anyone with machines or hoses/tools that need repairing.  He is also retailing most of the chemicals as well.

His contact details are 07948524756

Really nice bloke who has a lot of knowledge about the machines.

He's just fixed the hose on my 3.5" upholstery tool
Title: Re: Brian from Extracta
Post by: mr muzzy on August 14, 2014, 10:06:54 pm
he has just fixed the heater in my turbo to ian ,
just a shame him and john sold me my machine knowing they were going bust  ???
Title: Re: Brian from Extracta
Post by: john martin on August 14, 2014, 10:16:33 pm
he has just fixed the heater in my turbo to ian ,
just a shame him and john sold me my machine knowing they were going bust  ???

At least you might have rare and decent machine if its using the 8.4 motors  ...  upgrade the pump perhaps , add an external heater etc .

Did u have any problems with it ? someone mentioned the 8.4 motors might have contributed to sending them under ? Hard to believe a handfull of turbo machines and a couple of breakdowns would bring down a company that also have a repair business etc   ? ... i dunno
Title: Re: Brian from Extracta
Post by: Ian Rochester on August 15, 2014, 04:48:12 am
I think after talking to Brian it was the unreliability of the 8.4 vac motors that ultimately caused the business to go under, he was saying that 80% of the ones that were delivered (from Mexico) were out of balance and had to be returned to the supplier without ever getting fitted to a machine.
Title: Re: Brian from Extracta
Post by: mr muzzy on August 15, 2014, 11:14:00 pm
the machine is better than the exel john a bit more quiet and more pull from the vacs .a bigger pump would be great
as for an external heater I don't think they need one, the heater in them are way good enough,
ian he was telling me he was getting more vac s from mexico said they were just waiting to clear the factory 
hope there better than the ones they were fitting
Title: Re: Brian from Extracta
Post by: john martin on August 16, 2014, 04:45:10 am
the machine is better than the exel john a bit more quiet and more pull from the vacs .a bigger pump would be great
as for an external heater I don't think they need one, the heater in them are way good enough,
ian he was telling me he was getting more vac s from mexico said they were just waiting to clear the factory  
hope there better than the ones they were fitting

Yeah , if your stuck with a 100psi its a bit of a performance mismatch for a pair of 8.4's in series .
There would be a few easy straight swap pumps if you didn't need pressure adjustment .
This for eg ...
http://www.carpetcleanersstore.co.uk/product/aquatecpump
there is also a 200psi version  ... Mytee use these pumps .


No you dont ' need ' an external heater ...  but it does give you hotter water at the wand and speeds up the waiting time if you are going from cold .   Use the internal immersion to pre heat the water and then feed it to the external and you have very hot water  at the wand fast .  
Title: Re: Brian from Extracta
Post by: Darran Pryce on August 16, 2014, 05:59:26 am
Just off the cuff,  does anyone know anyone in Leeds who fixes carpet machines etc. Nothing wrong with my gear but good to know.

Cheers
Darran
Title: Re: Brian from Extracta
Post by: mr muzzy on August 16, 2014, 09:50:55 am
not a bad price pump john . a 200 would be a lot better

the heater will speed things up from cold for sure, what kind is the best for the heaters thanks
Title: Re: Brian from Extracta
Post by: john martin on August 16, 2014, 10:34:57 am
not a bad price pump john . a 200 would be a lot better

the heater will speed things up from cold for sure, what kind is the best for the heaters thanks

This is the 200psi version  ... but the carpetcleaningstore guy used to sell them for around 200 with the aquatec badge .
http://www.worldwidecleaningsupport.com/the-mytee-universal-225psi-240v-water-pump.html

Heaters ...  i have the least expensive 3kw one i think ...
http://www.amtechuk.co.uk/shop/3_KW_Inline_Heat_Exchanger-pid-181.html

I did have an Ashbys steammate a while back , i think most would agree its probably the best but the powerflite is excellent , no heat adjustment but really you dont need it , never bothers me .
I have not tried the cleansmart one .

Title: Re: Brian from Extracta
Post by: mr muzzy on August 16, 2014, 12:28:13 pm
cheers john I have saved both pages
like you say inline heater with the heater in the machine will get it hotter quicker

 ;D
Title: Re: Brian from Extracta
Post by: terrymaloy on August 16, 2014, 01:13:57 pm
Nice bloke Brian from Extracta...told it like it is and gave sound advice.
John on the other hand talked utter bulls##t.

I dreaded the day when I walked into Extracta and got stuck with John....Aaaaarrrrrhhhhh  ::)roll ::)roll ::)roll
Title: Re: Brian from Extracta
Post by: JandS on August 16, 2014, 01:14:13 pm
Darran.

Wakefield Floorcare fix machines vacuum cleaners etc.

Deep pockets required though.
Title: Re: Brian from Extracta
Post by: Ian Gourlay on August 16, 2014, 03:47:14 pm
not a bad price pump john . a 200 would be a lot better

the heater will speed things up from cold for sure, what kind is the best for the heaters thanks

This is the 200psi version  ... but the carpetcleaningstore guy used to sell them for around 200 with the aquatec badge .
http://www.worldwidecleaningsupport.com/the-mytee-universal-225psi-240v-water-pump.html

Heaters ...  i have the least expensive 3kw one i think ...
http://www.amtechuk.co.uk/shop/3_KW_Inline_Heat_Exchanger-pid-181.html

I did have an Ashbys steammate a while back , i think most would agree its probably the best but the powerflite is excellent , no heat adjustment but really you dont need it , never bothers me .
I have not tried the cleansmart one .




Itsc Woodbridge for the pump Has anyone tried one   
Title: Re: Brian from Extracta
Post by: Doug Holloway on August 18, 2014, 04:39:25 pm
Hi Guys

Bought my first machines off Lloyd Owens who was an Extracta dealer and then a couple direct.

When I first got the Excel I though it was excellent but soon found the second vac was prone to blowing and that Extracta were prone to blaming me for not using it right.

I had so many vacs even my accountant picked up on it!

I seem to remember Brian was definitely the more helpful partner, so good luck to him.

Cheers

Doug
Title: Re: Brian from Extracta
Post by: Ian Gourlay on August 18, 2014, 05:05:15 pm
Were ashcombes a rebadged extracta. Still wish I had took a trip to Extracta when living in NE instead of investing 100k in a shop
Title: Re: Brian from Extracta
Post by: Doug Holloway on August 18, 2014, 05:50:29 pm
Hi Ian

Ashcombe were a distributor but Lloyd managed to get Extracta to send him the design plans and 18 months later Ashcombe's own brand was born.

It was very similar but Lloyd didn't survive the recession in the early nineties.

What shop did you buy?

Cheers

Doug
Title: Re: Brian from Extracta
Post by: mr muzzy on August 18, 2014, 08:41:14 pm
not a bad price pump john . a 200 would be a lot better

the heater will speed things up from cold for sure, what kind is the best for the heaters thanks

This is the 200psi version  ... but the carpetcleaningstore guy used to sell them for around 200 with the aquatec badge .
http://www.worldwidecleaningsupport.com/the-mytee-universal-225psi-240v-water-pump.html

Heaters ...  i have the least expensive 3kw one i think ...
http://www.amtechuk.co.uk/shop/3_KW_Inline_Heat_Exchanger-pid-181.html

I did have an Ashbys steammate a while back , i think most would agree its probably the best but the powerflite is excellent , no heat adjustment but really you dont need it , never bothers me .
I have not tried the cleansmart one .


105 hours on my machine and now the pump is dead , heater last week ,
might be a vac next week
Title: Re: Brian from Extracta
Post by: John Kelly on August 18, 2014, 09:01:16 pm
I told you not to buy one but you wouldn't listen.
Title: Re: Brian from Extracta
Post by: Glynn on August 18, 2014, 09:53:28 pm
What machine is it Mr Muzzy ?.
Title: Re: Brian from Extracta
Post by: mr muzzy on August 19, 2014, 12:27:16 am
What machine is it Mr Muzzy ?.
extracta turbo  glynn good when its working  :P
Title: Re: Brian from Extracta
Post by: mr muzzy on August 19, 2014, 12:29:09 am
I told you not to buy one but you wouldn't listen.
you did mr Kelly
Title: Re: Brian from Extracta
Post by: mr muzzy on August 20, 2014, 08:10:04 pm
the machine is better than the exel john a bit more quiet and more pull from the vacs .a bigger pump would be great
as for an external heater I don't think they need one, the heater in them are way good enough,
ian he was telling me he was getting more vac s from mexico said they were just waiting to clear the factory  
hope there better than the ones they were fitting

Yeah , if your stuck with a 100psi its a bit of a performance mismatch for a pair of 8.4's in series .
There would be a few easy straight swap pumps if you didn't need pressure adjustment .
This for eg ...
http://www.carpetcleanersstore.co.uk/product/aquatecpump
there is also a 200psi version  ... Mytee use these pumps .


No you dont ' need ' an external heater ...  but it does give you hotter water at the wand and speeds up the waiting time if you are going from cold .   Use the internal immersion to pre heat the water and then feed it to the external and you have very hot water  at the wand fast .  
just had the pump fixed today john (114 hours).new end bush kit put in it,
brian was on about putting another heater in the machine so there would be two
that would mean another cable running in to the house worked on,
you think it would be ok
Title: Re: Brian from Extracta
Post by: john martin on August 20, 2014, 08:43:26 pm
depends what he means by putting another heater in ...
you know the two basic heater types ...  the kettle element immersion you already have on the bottom of your clean tank ..
and the heat exchanger type that you feed water though after the water leaves the tank and water pump ..
so does he want to put a heat exchanger type inside the machine ... or does he want to put in two kettle elements . 
Having three cords on the machine would be a messy solution ... he could put the immersion and the heat exchanger on a three way switch to allow you to select one or the other  ....       
I would buy an external inline heater ...
Did your immersion heater fail because u let the water level drop and ran the heater dry ... if so its just bad engineering on their part  that it can even happen .
Title: Re: Brian from Extracta
Post by: John Kelly on August 20, 2014, 08:46:55 pm
Don't think any of the Extracta machines have a low water level cut off so the heater just burns out as the water can't even activate the thermostat.
Title: Re: Brian from Extracta
Post by: stuart_clark on August 20, 2014, 09:41:54 pm
My 2007 Exell had a low water cut off , The best thing about the Exell was the heater imo


stuart
Title: Re: Brian from Extracta
Post by: Ian Gourlay on August 21, 2014, 05:16:24 pm
Hi Ian

Ashcombe were a distributor but Lloyd managed to get Extracta to send him the design plans and 18 months later Ashcombe's own brand was born.

It was very similar but Lloyd didn't survive the recession in the early nineties.

What shop did you buy?

Cheers

Doug


I was going to have a Rymans Franchise in Peterborough at the time the Company was run by Jennifer Dabbo I think she was the mother of Mike Dabbo Manfred Mann fame and had been married to Peter Cadbury anyway they took a long time procrastinating  I opened my own version in Kings Lynn . Jennifers Rymans went into receivership and Louis bought it cheap  But due to doubling of rent and record high interest rates I went bust due to running out of money to sustain the running costs and my family although at the time we were breaking even one creditor would not negotiate and went for the jugular
Title: Re: Brian from Extracta
Post by: JandS on August 21, 2014, 06:31:07 pm
Does the heater on Enforcer perform same as the Ninja.
The Ninja doesn't have a low level cut off as such, rather it won't actually come on until you have at least 10 litres in tank.
I don't have the heater on when in use just plug it back in when pumps etc are switched off.

Title: Re: Brian from Extracta
Post by: M W. on August 21, 2014, 06:51:46 pm
Nice bloke Brian from Extracta...told it like it is and gave sound advice.
John on the other hand talked utter bulls##t.

I dreaded the day when I walked into Extracta and got stuck with John....Aaaaarrrrrhhhhh  ::)roll ::)roll ::)roll

 :)
Title: Re: Brian from Extracta
Post by: mr muzzy on August 21, 2014, 10:55:10 pm
depends what he means by putting another heater in ...
you know the two basic heater types ...  the kettle element immersion you already have on the bottom of your clean tank ..
and the heat exchanger type that you feed water though after the water leaves the tank and water pump ..
so does he want to put a heat exchanger type inside the machine ... or does he want to put in two kettle elements . 
Having three cords on the machine would be a messy solution ... he could put the immersion and the heat exchanger on a three way switch to allow you to select one or the other  ....       
I would buy an external inline heater ...
Did your immersion heater fail because u let the water level drop and ran the heater dry ... if so its just bad engineering on their part  that it can even happen .
two kettle elements I think he was on about ,
always had water over the heater john ,