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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: richywilts on July 24, 2014, 11:28:39 pm
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just working out my options is 6000 a month achievable working on my own as in getting thru the work ive already got the work
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Yes.
But you shouldn't do it.
You'll get to £6k. You'll want £7k.
You'll get to £7k. You'll want £8k.
You'll get to £8k and realise it's a lot less work to go back to selling drugs.
Don't focus on the money, Richy.
It's like drinking saltwater-you'll never be satisfied.
Focus on your quality of life. With your kids.
More money won't necessarily equal a better quality of life.
And all the money in the world won't buy you time.
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It's like drinking salnumptyer-you'll never be satisfied.
I hear what you say, but I still want to this salnumptyer even if it doesn't quench my thirst. Sounds awesome! :)
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Work to live... Dont live to work.
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It's like drinking salnumptyer-you'll never be satisfied.
I hear what you say, but I still want to this salnumptyer even if it doesn't quench my thirst. Sounds awesome! :)
Bloomin' swear filter.
The word is: salt water!
Notice the last letter of salt and the first 3 of water, when put together spell tw@.
Ooh look, see how clever I must be to get around an algorithm from before electricity was invented!
Do the turbo spazzes who think this up have a list of swears they find offensive? What a meeting that must've been ::)roll
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just working out my options is 6000 a month achievable working on my own as in getting thru the work ive already got the work
In an ideal world yes. But whose situation is ideal. Does it rain up there ever? Don't you ever want time off? Are you ever ill? Is there the possibility you might go to prison? ;D will you van need to be in the garage for a day? Might you just not be up to knocking out £300 a day, alone, day after day after day. Including invoicing. Including pricing up new work. Including family life. Including CIU. Including parole?
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just working out my options is 6000 a month achievable working on my own as in getting thru the work ive already got the work
I doubt it. No doubt someone will come along and tell me they earn £6k a month single handedly. ;)
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Dazmond does. ;D
While riding his missus in the back seat of his Ford 48 piston, 360 valve super-dooper fuel injected rocker box air pumped up fatty arsed tyred 4WD Extreme pole.
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Daz don't.
One fella has posted his earnings if £6kpm a few weeks ago.
It can definitely be done. 100%.
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It's like drinking salnumptyer-you'll never be satisfied.
I hear what you say, but I still want to this salnumptyer even if it doesn't quench my thirst. Sounds awesome! :)
Bloomin' swear filter.
The word is: salt water!
Notice the last letter of salt and the first 3 of water, when put together spell tw@.
Ooh look, see how clever I must be to get around an algorithm from before electricity was invented!
Do the turbo spazzes who think this up have a list of swears they find offensive? What a meeting that must've been ::)roll
😀👍👍👍
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Daz don't.
One fella has posted his earnings if £6kpm a few weeks ago.
It can definitely be done. 100%.
Like the fella who reckoned he could clean 50 houses a day. Yeh!
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Daz don't.
One fella has posted his earnings if £6kpm a few weeks ago.
It can definitely be done. 100%.
Is that the same answer to the same question though? I "think" Richy is not asking can you clean or earn 6k in a month, but he's asking can you keep that up?...Month after month...etc
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just working out my options is 6000 a month achievable working on my own as in getting thru the work ive already got the work
How many men is doing it now Rich, and what hours are they doing ?
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You've only been out a week and you're off already Ritchy.
Last week it was "best way to earn £700 a week" and that's now jumped up to "is it possible to earn £6k per month".
Just stop dreaming and get out there cleaning your customers houses and you will see what's possible.
Fwiw without some ridiculously well priced commercial works I think the answer to your question is no.
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I believe £6k in an individual month could be achieved - though I've never come remotely close. As for repeating it every month, I suppopse it might be possible if ignoring the winter months if ALL the work was VERY well priced, no messers, no glitches. Personally, I prefer not to end up having artificial joints fitted to my body. That may end up happening anyway but I don't see why I would want to encourage it.
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easy................... :D
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Depending on where you live,how well priced and condensed work is
To earn £40 per hour over eight hours,on and off the glass,may prove testing.
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Degree is right unless you got good commercial work then yes houses if say no. I do some bungalows and you spend half the time talking to the residents nightmare !!!!😁😄
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i remember not so long ago richy you went out on your own window cleaning and you posted on here that you earned £163 in a day!albeit i think this was some of your lower priced work
£6,000 a month?personally i think you should set your sights lower and more realistic.
i dont think you ve got a hope in hell of earning this amount of money month in/month out on your own.i dont even think matt bateman/roy harding earn this much and they both have very good profitable rounds down south!!
i dont think you ve got the stomach for it richy truth be told.i dont think you could work on your own day in/day out/month in/month out/year in/year out.
in theory it all sounds great!but the reality is very different.
you ve got to be very self motivated in this game.even working in bad weather.i cant see you hacking it.
you may well prove me wrong!but i doubt it.
regards
dazmond
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Richy, are you on something ???
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Of course its possible!! Theyre are a lot of variables with work quality and time working and having a life and not killing your self!!! BUT basically....................
£6k - 20 days work is £300 a day
£6k - 19 days work is £315 a day
£6k - 18 days work is £333 a day
£6k - 17 days work is £352 a day
£6k - 16 days work is £375 a day
Last few years we have worked an average of 16 days a month (4 weekly round) that would mean you'd need to do £375 a day to get to £6k!!! That is a lot!!
I look at it as every day we're out working ideally we need to do £x amount, but i dont beat my self up about it if we dont! If we do the target we do if we dont oh well!
As a 1 in one van we do £275-£350, again another but, we do have some amazing days of hardly moving van and if im honest over priced work, this has taken us 8 years though to get it together like this!
I think if you start putting yourself under pressure to do £6k a month you'll end up hating the job or rushing round making mistakes and quality will slip.
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yes it is
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i think he ll end up hating the job anyway mate.i think richy likes the idea of the money but hasnt got the grit and detemination to work hard on his own.he ll get bored and cheesed off very quickly.
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Its depends on your geographic.
Here in surrey £6k a month is very achievable.
Im doing just over £5k on one month and £2.8k on the alternative months at the moment. My alternate months are actually better priced houses as they are in the hook heath areas (very wealthy) and I have about a week and a half of work booked in.
My full month is pretty much chocka, with some schedual adjustments however, I could easily squeeze another grand in.
My average price per house down this way is £30-40. so it does depend on where you live, however living here is flippin costly just a 3 bed semi in woking is about £300-400k studio flats are still upwards of £200k and rent for a decent 3 bed semi is starts around £1400. so you work out how far 6k a month is going to go, not far really.
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i was thinking 6 days a week for first 3-4 months then consider employing part timer, i dont really want to employ again although i may use my brother in law part time i was just doing a cash flow forecast last night playing with numbers, i know it would be pretty hard to do 6 grand a month i am pretty fit now tho since being in prison.
im just weighing up the options what i should do with my work, as really there is plenty enough for two people too work but dont really wana go down that route again just yet
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i think he ll end up hating the job anyway mate.i think richy likes the idea of the money but hasnt got the grit and detemination to work hard on his own.he ll get bored and cheesed off very quickly.
daz i think in the past with outgoings etc i had when i worked i wasnt really seeing the fruits of the labour, however now im all downsized and most of the money will go into my own pocket i can assure u ive got grit and determination
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Why don't you rent part of the business until you can afford to replace the worn out vans then start employing again.
or go down the franchise route.
Paul
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take ya point paul im just looking at getting the first 6-12 months out the way, looking at some newer vans at the minute as the two ive got a minute are too small tanks just dont carry enough water so have to come all way back most days to refill which prob loses 40 quid of turnover a day plus added fuel costs so really a new van wont cost anymore over the month.
but im happy to just plod along for now in them vans till the money starts coming in and see how its going
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What sort of money would you be earning in your area if employed doing something within your
skills range ?
That would be the target your looking to beat, not some pie in the sky number pulled out of the air to
excite the willy wavers.
No such thing as an easy ride.
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sean im not just pulling numbers out the sky thats what my round does a month but coz im trying to take on peoples advice and stay on my own etc im willing to pull my finger out to get whatever needs to be done i was just asking if 6 grand could be done with hard work etc or i may have to consider renting or selling bits of work off, or should i just get a part timer
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Fair enough, but if you where achieving them figures with a employee then I don't think you
will get through the same amount of work on your own.
You will end up burning yourself out, you will then get demotivated and your round will be all over the place.
What I was trying to say was if you where to come onto this forum and ask is it possible to earn £10000 a month
as a sole trader you would get the same willy wavers saying no problem I do that easily every month.
That's only twenty £25 properties a day over 20 days a month, sounds easy doesn't it.
These same penniless millionaires will be crying on a later post because they have to replace their leisure battery.
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Stick to the drug dealing mate you'll achieve those figures easier
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Of course its possible!! Theyre are a lot of variables with work quality and time working and having a life and not killing your self!!! BUT basically....................
£6k - 20 days work is £300 a day
£6k - 19 days work is £315 a day
£6k - 18 days work is £333 a day
£6k - 17 days work is £352 a day
£6k - 16 days work is £375 a day
Last few years we have worked an average of 16 days a month (4 weekly round) that would mean you'd need to do £375 a day to get to £6k!!! That is a lot!!
I look at it as every day we're out working ideally we need to do £x amount, but i dont beat my self up about it if we dont! If we do the target we do if we dont oh well!
As a 1 in one van we do £275-£350, again another but, we do have some amazing days of hardly moving van and if im honest over priced work, this has taken us 8 years though to get it together like this!
I think if you start putting yourself under pressure to do £6k a month you'll end up hating the job or rushing round making mistakes and quality will slip.
Maybe a 6 day week at around £250 a day would be more feasible. I could see myself managing that for 2 or 3 weeks when highly motivated. I could not see myself sustaining it over a long period though. Not that I've ever attempted it.
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Stick to the drug dealing mate you'll achieve those figures easier
gone are them days im afraid
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Aim for 4k a month richy doing 5 days and using saturdays to play catchup if weather or illness rises.
To earn 6k a month is only doable if you have great prices, everything is compact, your motivation needs on top form and you need to enjoy roundbuilding as much as someone like me (without blowing my own trumpet).
Anyone can build up 6k of work weather it took them 2 years of 10 years but managing it and fitting it all in the month is the near impossible mission to achieve hence noone does it!.
Start at £150/£200 a day which i think must be the norm for wfp nowdays with a full built satisfied round supporting a family etc.
When you have 20 days of £200 a month and you find it easy and you are home earlier then 3pm each day start a canvassing campaign to add £50 on every day untill you have £250 everyday to clean and if you still find that easy go for the £300.
But if i was you id be more than happy as a sole trader with £4k which is miles more reasonable to maintain, you dont want to work work work and be stressed all the time. A happy middle with a good life with family/friends/hobbies is what its all about.
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mick ive got 6k a month at minute to start at i dont need to build it up i might just have to keep both vans and get a part timer in my dad might even fancy it keep him busy few days a week
i can easy do 200 a day with my fitness levels now
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Richy, It sounds like you're looking for a way to keep the customers serviced rather than questioning how to earn the cash. If that's so, why not stretch the round to five weeks? You'll be able to keep it going at a sensible number of cleans per week, your customers are unlikely to complain and, if and when you take someone on, you can revert to four weekly and not lose any of your income from taking the new guy on (that does work if you give it some thought).
Vin
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mick ive got 6k a month at minute to start at i dont need to build it up i might just have to keep both vans and get a part timer in my dad might even fancy it keep him busy few days a week
i can easy do 200 a day with my fitness levels now
Are you the full toolbox??
If you already have 6k of work then you know if you can or cant do it on your own surely??
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mick ive got 6k a month at minute to start at i dont need to build it up i might just have to keep both vans and get a part timer in my dad might even fancy it keep him busy few days a week
i can easy do 200 a day with my fitness levels now
Are you the full toolbox??
If you already have 6k of work then you know if you can or cant do it on your own surely??
Think the pertinent part is 'on his own' Mick.
He has staff ATM but wants to know if can go it alone.
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mick ive got 6k a month at minute to start at i dont need to build it up i might just have to keep both vans and get a part timer in my dad might even fancy it keep him busy few days a week
i can easy do 200 a day with my fitness levels now
Huh!! LOL
So rather than sit here asking questions get out there and crack on!
Start at 8 and just run through the list, till you get bored/tired or you know it suits to start the next day at a certain point.
No disrespect here but "I can easily do £200 a day with my fitness levels now" well for you to do £6k you need to work 30 days!! And that aint happening!!
Tweak the round so as little driving as possible the see how you do, but i think as said above Id forget trying to do the full round a month just do what you feel comfortable with per day work wise.
Out of interest the £6k of work you have how many customers is it?
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If you was in your 20s/30s it can be done but when you're the wrong side 40, doing 6k a month would be too much work imo.
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Its depends on your geographic.
Here in surrey £6k a month is very achievable.
I read some Tosh on this forum.
Have you started rolling out your franchise yet? ;)
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richy when was the last time you worked on the tools day in/day out,month in/month out?say 6 or 7 hours "on the glass" time(not including lunch/coffee breaks)5 days a week?
i bet it was a long time ago.
ive been working a solid 5 or 6 days a week for about 6 weeks now.ive got a half day to do tomorrow then a full 8 days off.
i need a break every month/6 weeks as it grinds me down and i get fed up and tired with window cleaning and the add on jobs.
a nice week off next week and ill be nice and fresh for a busy 3 weeks work before my holiday! :)
im very organised and efficient and work hard every day when im on the tools plus the admin,chasing up payments,equipment maintenance etc but it does grind you down after a few weeks.
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Ummm what happens to the guys who've been doing all the work whilst you've been on your 'holidays'? Can't see them being happy when you turn up monday morning.
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Out of interest the £6k of work you have how many customers is it?
one of the more appropriate things to consider in this thread.
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Ummm what happens to the guys who've been doing all the work whilst you've been on your 'holidays'? Can't see them being happy when you turn up monday morning.
I was wondering about that too.
The guy that's been running your business, doesn't he lurk on here aswell? Surely he's going to want to have a say in the direction you take it?
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mick ive got 6k a month at minute to start at i dont need to build it up i might just have to keep both vans and get a part timer in my dad might even fancy it keep him busy few days a week
i can easy do 200 a day with my fitness levels now
Are you the full toolbox??
If you already have 6k of work then you know if you can or cant do it on your own surely??
mick ive had it cleaned by staff before, i personally think its too much to do on my own i just wanted peoples opinions im only thinking short term till xmas time maybe then either sell some off or employ someone
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Ummm what happens to the guys who've been doing all the work whilst you've been on your 'holidays'? Can't see them being happy when you turn up monday morning.
ste who has been running it for me was offered 50% if he wanted to stay involved hes declined saying he wants to concentrate on his own business interests as hes very busy i think he is taking one of the lads as its his friend to work in his business and craig who used to work for me doesnt want to carry on anymore now im out wants to do something else hes had enough of windows
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Honestly? What is the point
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mick ive had it cleaned by staff before, i personally think its too much to do on my own i just wanted peoples opinions im only thinking short term till xmas time maybe then either sell some off or employ someone
Richy,
You've stepped straight into the thought processes and routines that led you down the dark road you travelled a couple of years ago. Stop trying to change things all the time. You have a major idea or a fundamental question about how to work every two days.
Step back, take on an amount of work every day that you can sustain and forget the money. As I've said, if that means stretching the round out a little, do it. Just run your business without worrying for six weeks and you'll get the answers you need.
You need to calm down and remember that what's happening to you now is worthwhile and worth living. If you don't, you'll head back in the direction you did before where the quick buck tempts you.
Vin
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mick ive had it cleaned by staff before, i personally think its too much to do on my own i just wanted peoples opinions im only thinking short term till xmas time maybe then either sell some off or employ someone
Richy,
You've stepped straight into the thought processes and routines that led you down the dark road you travelled a couple of years ago. Stop trying to change things all the time. You have a major idea or a fundamental question about how to work every two days.
Step back, take on an amount of work every day that you can sustain and forget the money. As I've said, if that means stretching the round out a little, do it. Just run your business without worrying for six weeks and you'll get the answers you need.
You need to calm down and remember that what's happening to you now is worthwhile and worth living. If you don't, you'll head back in the direction you did before where the quick buck tempts you.
Vin
Deaf ears. Richie is in cloud cuckoo land and ought to get a job in a factory.
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mick ive had it cleaned by staff before, i personally think its too much to do on my own i just wanted peoples opinions im only thinking short term till xmas time maybe then either sell some off or employ someone
Richy,
You've stepped straight into the thought processes and routines that led you down the dark road you travelled a couple of years ago. Stop trying to change things all the time. You have a major idea or a fundamental question about how to work every two days.
Step back, take on an amount of work every day that you can sustain and forget the money. As I've said, if that means stretching the round out a little, do it. Just run your business without worrying for six weeks and you'll get the answers you need.
You need to calm down and remember that what's happening to you now is worthwhile and worth living. If you don't, you'll head back in the direction you did before where the quick buck tempts you.
Vin
Thank you PW. I wanted to say similar myself but Richy would start thinking I'm an old nagger.
Nobody needs to be a big "I am". Just earn a decent living with as few headaches as possible.
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im not trying to be the big i am at all so sort ya head out ive asked a question is that much achieveable n ya all jumping in with ya sly remarks, ive said in one of the previous posts i think its too much work for one man, i was just seeing if anyone else achieves that much can it be done,
i was playing round with a cash flow forecast last night thats all and thought i would ask if its achieveable for me to carry out all the work i have 6 days a week, just too see what figures looked like jesus christ u take everything i say as the gospel some of ya
im working out my options etc before i begin my work again around 25th august im not rushing into anything ill not go off and play around with my forecast again with a part timer in other van so chill out im a lot more focussed now so ease of with the remarks, ive learnt from my mistakes
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Yeah, keep playing with your forecast. ::)roll
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your all wasting you time, :P :P ::)roll ::)roll ::)roll
richy does what he want when he wants, if he had listened the 1st time then he wouldn't be in this mess.
crack on ;D ;D ;D
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Just clean the work mate, after a month or two you'll soon know how much you can do in a over your round schedule...
I'm sure your customers wont mind you being a bit late for a month or two if you cant handle the work load...
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I can do 6 grand a month the key is to fo half commercial half domestic it can be done
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I can do 6 grand a month the key is to fo half commercial half domestic it can be done
So how's that the key?
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cheers carl a positive reply for a change
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cheers carl a positive reply for a change
If you're just looking for someone to co-sign your bullpoo, if you ask enough people, someone will do it for you.
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If it help I do 30 hrs approx a week and I do in avg.£3600
Per month, as for 6k your takin king 60 hrs or 2 men
Who wants to work 60 hrs?!?? Not fricken me laa
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I can do 6 grand a month the key is to fo half commercial half domestic it can be done
So how's that the key?
It isn't.
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cheers carl a positive reply for a change
Well, if that's what you want, I think you're absolutely right. Pretty much anyone can do £6k per month.
Vin
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cheers carl a positive reply for a change
Well, if that's what you want, I think you're absolutely right. Pretty much anyone can do £6k per month.
Vin
I agree. Perfectly achievable if your prices are good.
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cheers carl a positive reply for a change
Well, if that's what you want, I think you're absolutely right. Pretty much anyone can do £6k per month.
Vin
I agree. Perfectly achievable if your prices are good.
have you done 6k a month ?
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I can do 6 grand a month the key is to fo half commercial half domestic it can be done
So how's that the key?
As far as i understand having commercial work you can do for example between the hours of say..5am to 9 am Daily would give you a financial advantage over someone who "just" does domestics. And perhaps having work you can do later than 4/5pm . Not that i could do it but i have the theory of how its done!! (i think !) ;D
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cheers carl a positive reply for a change
If you're just looking for someone to co-sign your bullpoo, if you ask enough people, someone will do it for you.
ive asked a perfectly fine question to get peoples opinions so i dont know why ya all trying to have a go at me saying im bullpoo etc, ive taken on the advice and said i will more than likely take on a part time helper see how things go or sell some of the work, i just didnt want distractions of having employees when i startup again
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Yes 6k in a month is possible , but 6k per month for 12 months is a long shot
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Yes 6k in a month is possible , but 6k per month for 12 months is a long shot
Good info, just to go a bit further, what Months is it possible ? ;D
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cheers carl a positive reply for a change
Well, if that's what you want, I think you're absolutely right. Pretty much anyone can do £6k per month.
Vin
I agree. Perfectly achievable if your prices are good.
have you done 6k a month ?
Would you answer that on here? ;)
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Yes 6k in a month is possible , but 6k per month for 12 months is a long shot
Good info, just to go a bit further, what Months is it possible ? ;D
The ones where it aint poured down with rain, snowed under or 80 mph winds. Months you don't go on holiday, don't get sick or chat to custys for long periods :D
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Course it's possible. Then you can post pictures of your car, van, house etc ::)roll
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Course it's possible. Then you can post pictures of your car, van, house etc ::)roll
Bummer! ;D
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Frank wouldn't get outta bed for 6k a month :P
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Frank wouldn't get outta bed for 6k a month :P
That's just a set of forks. ;D
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Richy
I've read some of your posts over the last couple of years and all you seem to do is ask questions that you should already know the answers to, after all you seem to have tried every way of doing things.
I'm sure a lot of us feel you should have learned something by your efforts but you still seem to ask some strange questions. Is it through boredom or are you just seeing how many people you can wind up on the forum?
If you already have enough work for 6k per month, weed out any problem/underpriced customers and have a stress free, good business by yourself.
Bear in mind that you may need to do a steady canvass/advertising to replace customers that desert you once they realise your recent past. There may be some local competition that try to use this to their advantage.
Be happy and thankful for what you have and concentrate on doing the work/planning instead of reworking the same questions on here.
Can't fault you for trying but please stop trying to re-invent the wheel.
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Richy someone asked how many custies you have, you haven't answered and that is the main question you should be asking yourself, can i get through xxx amount of houses aday , and complete that every month
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think its approx 790 at minute spread over six weeks
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Richy
I've read some of your posts over the last couple of years and all you seem to do is ask questions that you should already know the answers to, after all you seem to have tried every way of doing things.
I'm sure a lot of us feel you should have learned something by your efforts but you still seem to ask some strange questions. Is it through boredom or are you just seeing how many people you can wind up on the forum?
If you already have enough work for 6k per month, weed out any problem/underpriced customers and have a stress free, good business by yourself.
Bear in mind that you may need to do a steady canvass/advertising to replace customers that desert you once they realise your recent past. There may be some local competition that try to use this to their advantage.
Be happy and thankful for what you have and concentrate on doing the work/planning instead of reworking the same questions on here.
Can't fault you for trying but please stop trying to re-invent the wheel.
as ive not been a sole trader working on my own for prob 4-5 years i thought it was quite a valid question to ask other sole traders as its a forum to ask questions not trying to reinvent any wheel just wanted some opinions, there wasnt much thought to my question when i wrote it i was messing round with cash flow forecast and i thought id sound a figure out with other window cleaners, everyone takes my questions sometimes on here too seriously i just do it to guage opinions off people then make a decision
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We all have different capabilities, goals, etc. I personally couldn't get anywhere near 6 grand a month. I am the wrong side of 50, OCD-ish, therefore too slow to catch a cold, and am simply out to make a living, not a fortune. I work within my own personal limitations and can live with that.
However, Richie, if it can be done, and I am sure there are some guys out there who can, it doesn't really matter. What others can do, you may not be able to do, and vice versa.
If you want to go out and do it, then go for it. You won't know unless you try.
Best wishes,
John
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Course it's possible. Then you can post pictures of your car, van, house etc ::)roll
Bummer! ;D
;D
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Id ask Harun how he does it !
Say you have 800 customers on a 4 weekly schedule thats 200 a week
That in turn makes it 40 per day !
Is your work compact enough to do 40 per day ?
Just on averages alone you are looking at £7.50 per house from the maths involved
I would be inclined to try and raise the jobs to £10 average per job and if you lose a quarter of the work you would still be earning the same amount for %25 less work
Over the 4 weeks this in turn would work out to 10 less jobs per day but you would still earn the same amount of money .
Myself i can do on average 18 jobs per day that is with my work set out in each area each different week .
I start at 9.30 most days and finish at around 3.30
In my opinion you probably need to reschedule your work to make it more profitable .
If a customer says can you do it so and so day say im in that area on x day and its that day only i work in the area .
Ive only been going for 2 years and im not near full i work 11 days over the 4 week cycle but i take £2800 for 11 days work .
Its all a numbers game .
Hopefully this may help you richie .
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think its approx 790 at minute spread over six weeks
So if you stayed on 6 weekly cleans you'd have to do 26 a day, everyday, i couldnt do that day in day out, on top of that theres the admin, collecting etc
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im going to put the prices up a little so may lose some customers i think i may sell some of the further afield work and reinvest the money back in the business think its defo gonna be too much to handle
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790 custards Richy?
To be blunt feck that!
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I have to agree I do think you ask some funny questions, but thats diversity.
Basic maths of your situation is 790 customers, 6 days a week every 6 weeks works out to about 21/22 houses a day. In theory fine but with colds or van troubles or umpteen other delays leading to days off the tools or even lack of speed and falling behind - maybe think about a lad assisting you...
Go for it though. Why not?
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just working out my options is 6000 a month achievable working on my own as in getting thru the work ive already got the work
Depends, are you selling straight from the importer? Coke is pretty crap these days for a decent margin, forget that. What were you thinking of selling?
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6 grand a month on your own.
;D ;D ;D
What's the next joke, 50 houses a day? 10 minutes a house?
Best place to post such claims is here:
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=97611.1280
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think its approx 790 at minute spread over six weeks
Thank you :-)
Right to do £6k per month at the average rate of £7.59 a job, NO WAY is it possible!!
Based on my previous workings out :-
£6k - 20 days work is £300 a day- - - - - 40 jobs per day, EVERY DAY
£6k - 19 days work is £315 a day- - - - - 42 jobs per day, EVERY DAY
£6k - 18 days work is £333 a day- - - - - 44 jobs per day EVERY DAY
£6k - 17 days work is £352 a day- - - - - 47 jobs per day, EVERY DAY
£6k - 16 days work is £375 a day- - - - - 50 jobs per day, EVERY DAY
Honestly l'd just pick the best jobs and make a half decent round out of the 759 custys you have!
At an average price of £7.59 you must have some tiddlers, money wise like a few quid, think abut this, if you spoke to half your customers per day, other half would be out at work or what ever, for as little as only 1 minutes that adds nearly an hour to your day! And as youre already up against it the task of earning the target is even harder!!!!
If it were me, I'd sit down and work out where my best paying days were, compact, no/little hassle etc etc and start by making 16-18 days of work, any problem houses bad customers, stupidly low prices either sell or just done go back, or even try and put um up, you never know ;D
Forget employing for now! You need a solid round where YOU are doing £250+ per day!! Every day you are out working!
Even if you think about employing and working in the same van you will earn less, we have done this and proved it!!! 1 in a van does most days £300, two in a van doesnt do £600 more like £450+ Obviously there are days which are exceptions to this but its not the "norm"
Cull you round, get a good base then make the decision when/if you need to, but youre probably years away from this imo!
:-)
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think its approx 790 at minute spread over six weeks
Thank you :-)
Right to do £6k per month at the average rate of £7.59 a job, NO WAY is it possible!!
Based on my previous workings out :-
£6k - 20 days work is £300 a day- - - - - 40 jobs per day, EVERY DAY
£6k - 19 days work is £315 a day- - - - - 42 jobs per day, EVERY DAY
£6k - 18 days work is £333 a day- - - - - 44 jobs per day EVERY DAY
£6k - 17 days work is £352 a day- - - - - 47 jobs per day, EVERY DAY
£6k - 16 days work is £375 a day- - - - - 50 jobs per day, EVERY DAY
Honestly l'd just pick the best jobs and make a half decent round out of the 759 custys you have!
At an average price of £7.59 you must have some tiddlers, money wise like a few quid, think abut this, if you spoke to half your customers per day, other half would be out at work or what ever, for as little as only 1 minutes that adds nearly an hour to your day! And as youre already up against it the task of earning the target is even harder!!!!
If it were me, I'd sit down and work out where my best paying days were, compact, no/little hassle etc etc and start by making 16-18 days of work, any problem houses bad customers, stupidly low prices either sell or just done go back, or even try and put um up, you never know ;D
Forget employing for now! You need a solid round where YOU are doing £250+ per day!! Every day you are out working!
Even if you think about employing and working in the same van you will earn less, we have done this and proved it!!! 1 in a van does most days £300, two in a van doesnt do £600 more like £450+ Obviously there are days which are exceptions to this but its not the "norm"
Cull you round, get a good base then make the decision when/if you need to, but youre probably years away from this imo!
:-)
cheers for the breakdown my 790 customers are spread out over six weekly some may even be 12 weekly etc, so really its 9000 every six weeks that the round does
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my average price is nearer 12 quid not 7.50!!
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my average price is nearer 12 quid not 7.50!!
Mayb you should have taken more of them maths classes (funded by us tax payers) while you were banged up.
You have 790 customers and you say you have £6,000 a month revenue.
£6,000 divided by 790.................
Drum roll please.............£7.50.
😀😀😀
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He's already said it's 790 custies over 6 weeks, total £9k
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my average price is nearer 12 quid not 7.50!!
Mayb you should have taken more of them maths classes (funded by us tax payers) while you were banged up.
You have 790 customers and you say you have £6,000 a month revenue.
£6,000 divided by 790.................
Drum roll please.............£7.50.
😀😀😀
couple of reading lessons wouldn't go a miss ;D
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mick ive had it cleaned by staff before, i personally think its too much to do on my own i just wanted peoples opinions im only thinking short term till xmas time maybe then either sell some off or employ someone
Richy,
You've stepped straight into the thought processes and routines that led you down the dark road you travelled a couple of years ago. Stop trying to change things all the time. You have a major idea or a fundamental question about how to work every two days.
Step back, take on an amount of work every day that you can sustain and forget the money. As I've said, if that means stretching the round out a little, do it. Just run your business without worrying for six weeks and you'll get the answers you need.
You need to calm down and remember that what's happening to you now is worthwhile and worth living. If you don't, you'll head back in the direction you did before where the quick buck tempts you.
Vin
Spot on.
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my average price is nearer 12 quid not 7.50!!
Mayb you should have taken more of them maths classes (funded by us tax payers) while you were banged up.
You have 790 customers and you say you have £6,000 a month revenue.
£6,000 divided by 790.................
Drum roll please.............£7.50.
😀😀😀
couple of reading lessons wouldn't go a miss ;D
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Internet_law#Skitt.27s_Law
Vin
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my average price is nearer 12 quid not 7.50!!
Mayb you should have taken more of them maths classes (funded by us tax payers) while you were banged up.
You have 790 customers and you say you have £6,000 a month revenue.
£6,000 divided by 790.................
Drum roll please.............£7.50.
😀😀😀
drum roll please for the prize idiot of the thread.............congratulations itsssss Jonny (OnlyUseMeWFP)
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my average price is nearer 12 quid not 7.50!!
Mayb you should have taken more of them maths classes (funded by us tax payers) while you were banged up.
You have 790 customers and you say you have £6,000 a month revenue.
£6,000 divided by 790.................
Drum roll please.............£7.50.
😀😀😀
drum roll please for the prize idiot of the thread.............congratulations itsssss Jonny (OnlyUseMeWFP)
Pot calling kettle black? :-\
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my average price is nearer 12 quid not 7.50!!
Mayb you should have taken more of them maths classes (funded by us tax payers) while you were banged up.
You have 790 customers and you say you have £6,000 a month revenue.
£6,000 divided by 790.................
Drum roll please.............£7.50.
😀😀😀
drum roll please for the prize idiot of the thread.............congratulations itsssss Jonny (OnlyUseMeWFP)
Pot calling kettle black? :-\
why am i an idiot coz ive asked if something is achievable
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The thing is, Richy, you're asking if something is achievable. Surely that only matters on your round.
And you know your round and yourself better than we do, anyway.
Personally, I think you're getting your priorities wrong. Just get back to work, pay the bills and forget about numbers and getting rich.
Boring is good, sometimes.
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my average price is nearer 12 quid not 7.50!!
Mayb you should have taken more of them maths classes (funded by us tax payers) while you were banged up.
You have 790 customers and you say you have £6,000 a month revenue.
£6,000 divided by 790.................
Drum roll please.............£7.50.
😀😀😀
drum roll please for the prize idiot of the thread.............congratulations itsssss Jonny (OnlyUseMeWFP)
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I feel ashamed of myself.
I'm just working so hard these days and juggling family/work life is difficult.
I'm constantly tired..................richy do you have any E's I can buy off you? I need a boost and It's just this once to get me through the week.
;D
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If you was in your 20s/30s it can be done but when you're the wrong side 40, doing 6k a month would be too much work imo.
Cheeky sod; I'm 45, get to my local Nuffield Gym 5 evenings per week and can run rings around most lads half my age lol!!!!
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The thing is, Richy, you're asking if something is achievable. Surely that only matters on your round.
And you know your round and yourself better than we do, anyway.
Personally, I think you're getting your priorities wrong. Just get back to work, pay the bills and forget about numbers and getting rich.
Boring is good, sometimes.
i was never thinking about getting rich im just weighing up the options before i start and was wondering if i could manage the work i have on my own if worked 6 days could it be done, do others get thru that much work on there own, i was just thinking 6 days x 250 a day is possible obv not long term but its shame to get rid of quality work at same time just a case of seeing the wood for the trees
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my average price is nearer 12 quid not 7.50!!
Mayb you should have taken more of them maths classes (funded by us tax payers) while you were banged up.
You have 790 customers and you say you have £6,000 a month revenue.
£6,000 divided by 790.................
Drum roll please.............£7.50.
😀😀😀
drum roll please for the prize idiot of the thread.............congratulations itsssss Jonny (OnlyUseMeWFP)
😥😥😥
I feel ashamed of myself.
I'm just working so hard these days and juggling family/work life is difficult.
I'm constantly tired..................richy do you have any E's I can buy off you? I need a boost and It's just this once to get me through the week.
;D
ya prob better off with whizz cheaper and makes ya rush round
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my average price is nearer 12 quid not 7.50!!
Mayb you should have taken more of them maths classes (funded by us tax payers) while you were banged up.
You have 790 customers and you say you have £6,000 a month revenue.
£6,000 divided by 790.................
Drum roll please.............£7.50.
😀😀😀
drum roll please for the prize idiot of the thread.............congratulations itsssss Jonny (OnlyUseMeWFP)
😥😥😥
I feel ashamed of myself.
I'm just working so hard these days and juggling family/work life is difficult.
I'm constantly tired..................richy do you have any E's I can buy off you? I need a boost and It's just this once to get me through the week.
;D
ya prob better off with whizz cheaper and makes ya rush round
😳😳😳😳😳
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Not read all the posts but got to hand it to you richy you make an interesting topic :D
As for your question its possible ;) I know a couple of guys who do it
week in week out month after month and completed last year with out missing.
In your circumstances would you not be better letting the guys continue working
your round maybe take 1000 of work to kick you off and build another round while
building up to working full time yourself.
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to be fair to the lads they have all just been keeping it going for my benefit they do not particularly want to carry on window cleaning etc
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Hang on, help me out here please.
The lads who have serviced your round while you were away don't want to be part of the/your business anymore.
Whys that then or have they taken over the other business lol
Tony
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It says a lot for these guys if they kept your run going and are
now not wanting anything to do with it.
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Hang on, help me out here please.
The lads who have serviced your round while you were away don't want to be part of the/your business anymore.
Whys that then or have they taken over the other business lol
Tony
well my mate ste whose been running it is very busy with his own doesnt particularly like window cleaning, he just stepped in to help me out n steady the ship, think hes gonna take one of the other lads whose his friend to labour for him and the other lad has had enough of window cleaning now
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You should aim for £6k a week.
Tom
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Actually don't aim for it, just enjoy what you do.
Tom
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This forum is supposed to be for people asking for sound advise, not for di..heads asking stupid questions living in a dream world.......
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This forum is supposed to be for people asking for sound advise, not for di..heads asking stupid questions living in a dream world.......
who ya calling a dickhead martin best not be me
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This forum is supposed to be for people asking for sound advise, not for di..heads asking stupid questions living in a dream world.......
who ya calling a dickhead martin best not be me
Dont be an arse ricardo ;D,arent you supposed to be trying to reform your
character,if you rise so easily to someone calling you meaningless names
on a internet forum you are truly buggered! :)
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I wouldnt call him a dickhead, he is defo a positive thinker, sadly not a positive do'er.
This post for example is so pointless, 790 customers every 6 weeks is a doable target for anyone to get through if decent compact houses especially if loads are fronts and terrace scattared in as only works out 26 jobs a day(5 jobs an hour for 5 hours or just over 4 an hour for 6hours).
From reading his back threads and some of his posts the man has some self belief issuesas always has the need to try something else and not get started what he planned on doing at the start!
If i was you richy id simply just get on with it. You have a blinder of a workload by the sounds of it to get through that many would be jealous of. Why not get fully organised and simply get it done like everyother window cleaner does in the world instead of asking the obvious!
No disrespect intended. But Just go out and do it as doing puts food on the table earning you a crust where as asking pointless questions doesnt.
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This forum is supposed to be for people asking for sound advise, not for di..heads asking stupid questions living in a dream world.......
who ya calling a dickhead martin best not be me
Dont be an arse ricardo ;D,arent you supposed to be trying to reform your
character,if you rise so easily to someone calling you meaningless names
on a internet forum you are truly buggered! :)
i just didnt think it was called for i wasnt living in a dreamworld ive said in earlier posts i think its too much myself just wanted to know if other sole traders achieve these figures at all whilst i make some decisions on what to do, he saying its for asking advice etc which is what im trying to gain from the post taking on board peoples opinions not sarcastic comments
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I wouldnt call him a dickhead, he is defo a positive thinker, sadly not a positive do'er.
This post for example is so pointless, 790 customers every 6 weeks is a doable target for anyone to get through if decent compact houses especially if loads are fronts and terrace scattared in as only works out 26 jobs a day(5 jobs an hour for 5 hours or just over 4 an hour for 6hours).
From reading his back threads and some of his posts the man has some self belief issuesas always has the need to try something else and not get started what he planned on doing at the start!
If i was you richy id simply just get on with it. You have a blinder of a workload by the sounds of it to get through that many would be jealous of. Why not get fully organised and simply get it done like everyother window cleaner does in the world instead of asking the obvious!
No disrespect intended. But Just go out and do it as doing puts food on the table earning you a crust where as asking pointless questions doesnt.
cheers mick when i broke it down over six days 250 sounds quite achievable however i know how tiring it can be too hit that amount everyday with all the issues which arise when window cleaning i know it prob wouldnt run as smoothly as you would like i think with a bit of tinkering and culling and some good organisation i can prob hit around the 4500-5000 mark i think 6000 personally is bit too much too ask, ive just got to look at the workload and see which areas are worth keeping etc
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I wouldnt call him a dickhead, he is defo a positive thinker, sadly not a positive do'er.
This post for example is so pointless, 790 customers every 6 weeks is a doable target for anyone to get through if decent compact houses especially if loads are fronts and terrace scattared in as only works out 26 jobs a day(5 jobs an hour for 5 hours or just over 4 an hour for 6hours).
From reading his back threads and some of his posts the man has some self belief issuesas always has the need to try something else and not get started what he planned on doing at the start!
If i was you richy id simply just get on with it. You have a blinder of a workload by the sounds of it to get through that many would be jealous of. Why not get fully organised and simply get it done like everyother window cleaner does in the world instead of asking the obvious!
No disrespect intended. But Just go out and do it as doing puts food on the table earning you a crust where as asking pointless questions doesnt.
cheers mick when i broke it down over six days 250 sounds quite achievable however i know how tiring it can be too hit that amount everyday with all the issues which arise when window cleaning i know it prob wouldnt run as smoothly as you would like i think with a bit of tinkering and culling and some good organisation i can prob hit around the 4500-5000 mark i think 6000 personally is bit too much too ask, ive just got to look at the workload and see which areas are worth keeping etc
That sounds a bit more realistic from here. I have only ever exceeded £4k in a month once ever. If I had more work I reckon £4.5k - maybe even £4.8k - would be doable for me away from the Winter. But I'm not so sure that my body would handle it if I tried it too many months in a row. Also, I don't think my mind would handle it either as it can get a bit gruelling. I prefer to earn a bit less, save my body and do some creative writing for fun. Visiting a gallery or museum feels quite liberating too. My brain screams for variety and I need an artistic outlet too. Without that, I may as well be a zombie. All work and no play (or too knackered to play) would be a train wreck for someone like me.
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Maybe i was a little harsh but in fairness only you can answer the question you asked ie only you know your hourly rate, your average rain fall, holidays, sick days,cant be arsed days etc.....
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Maybe i was a little harsh but in fairness only you can answer the question you asked ie only you know your hourly rate, your average rain fall, holidays, sick days,cant be arsed days etc.....
apology accepted then ;D
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I wouldnt call him a dickhead, he is defo a positive thinker, sadly not a positive do'er.
This post for example is so pointless, 790 customers every 6 weeks is a doable target for anyone to get through if decent compact houses especially if loads are fronts and terrace scattared in as only works out 26 jobs a day(5 jobs an hour for 5 hours or just over 4 an hour for 6hours).
From reading his back threads and some of his posts the man has some self belief issuesas always has the need to try something else and not get started what he planned on doing at the start!
If i was you richy id simply just get on with it. You have a blinder of a workload by the sounds of it to get through that many would be jealous of. Why not get fully organised and simply get it done like everyother window cleaner does in the world instead of asking the obvious!
No disrespect intended. But Just go out and do it as doing puts food on the table earning you a crust where as asking pointless questions doesnt.
cheers mick when i broke it down over six days 250 sounds quite achievable however i know how tiring it can be too hit that amount everyday with all the issues which arise when window cleaning i know it prob wouldnt run as smoothly as you would like i think with a bit of tinkering and culling and some good organisation i can prob hit around the 4500-5000 mark i think 6000 personally is bit too much too ask, ive just got to look at the workload and see which areas are worth keeping etc
There you go Richie. You have answered your own question, which only you could do in the first place.
John
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^^What he said
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^^What they both said