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UK General Cleaning Forum => General Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Smudger on July 21, 2014, 08:52:37 pm

Title: Enhancing sandstone colours...
Post by: Smudger on July 21, 2014, 08:52:37 pm
Did A newly laid sandstone patio today, builder left it in a bit of a mess

(http://i1045.photobucket.com/albums/b458/huxleyhobbs/imagejpg2_zps6baf1a53.jpg) (http://s1045.photobucket.com/user/huxleyhobbs/media/imagejpg2_zps6baf1a53.jpg.html)

(http://i1045.photobucket.com/albums/b458/huxleyhobbs/imagejpg1_zps15b00021.jpg) (http://s1045.photobucket.com/user/huxleyhobbs/media/imagejpg1_zps15b00021.jpg.html)

Came up pretty well...

(http://i1045.photobucket.com/albums/b458/huxleyhobbs/imagejpg3_zpscf7fb62f.jpg) (http://s1045.photobucket.com/user/huxleyhobbs/media/imagejpg3_zpscf7fb62f.jpg.html)

(http://i1045.photobucket.com/albums/b458/huxleyhobbs/imagejpg4_zpsca939d9b.jpg) (http://s1045.photobucket.com/user/huxleyhobbs/media/imagejpg4_zpsca939d9b.jpg.html)

But the customer is disappointed with the colours when dry, too dull !

What products and techniques are available to brighten up the sandstone finish?

Cheers

Darran
Title: Re: Enhancing sandstone colours...
Post by: Roland S on July 21, 2014, 09:12:20 pm
there's colour enhancing sealers, resiblock and smartseal both do one.
Title: Re: Enhancing sandstone colours...
Post by: BDCS on July 21, 2014, 09:12:35 pm
Enhance and seal from our Kev
Title: Re: Enhancing sandstone colours...
Post by: Smudger on July 21, 2014, 09:15:51 pm
Enhance and seal from our Kev

Our kev ?


As in Kevin Martin ?    👍

Recommend away !

Darran
Title: Re: Enhancing sandstone colours...
Post by: BDCS on July 21, 2014, 09:38:55 pm
I usually swerve sealing but had a loyal customer that same as you wanted the wet look to enhance the colours. It was not cheap but worked very well and still looked good this year.

http://www.tilinglogistics.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=60_68&product_id=69
Title: Re: Enhancing sandstone colours...
Post by: Roland S on July 21, 2014, 09:47:44 pm
I usually swerve sealing but had a loyal customer that same as you wanted the wet look to enhance the colours. It was not cheap but worked very well and still looked good this year.

http://www.tilinglogistics.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=60_68&product_id=69

wow is that correct £66/litre?
Title: Re: Enhancing sandstone colours...
Post by: Neil Jones on July 21, 2014, 10:10:07 pm
It goes a long way though Roland and is great stuff. You pay for what you get with this stuff.
Title: Re: Enhancing sandstone colours...
Post by: BDCS on July 21, 2014, 10:12:26 pm
I usually swerve sealing but had a loyal customer that same as you wanted the wet look to enhance the colours. It was not cheap but worked very well and still looked good this year.

http://www.tilinglogistics.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=60_68&product_id=69

Ring him

wow is that correct £66/litre?
Title: Re: Enhancing sandstone colours...
Post by: wpclean on July 21, 2014, 10:18:34 pm
http://shop.resiblock.com/products/resiblock-indian-sandstone-sealer-colour-enhancer

You get a 32% discount if you get an acount with them, I havn't tried it, I was just throwing into the mix.

I am always dissapointed after cleaning Indian sandstone, when it has dried out, but I am going to offer the enhancment sealer for a small fee  ;D
Title: Re: Enhancing sandstone colours...
Post by: BDCS on July 21, 2014, 10:51:58 pm
I sealed over 500m of this stone inside with a Libreron stone oil which the customer bought - it took 9 coats on some of the slabs. Personally I think this stone is pants unless sealed as its green inside a year.
Title: Re: Enhancing sandstone colours...
Post by: chris scott on July 21, 2014, 11:10:37 pm
I use Teflon on sandstone...it does not enhance but does a very good job of sealing .
Title: Re: Enhancing sandstone colours...
Post by: Smudger on July 22, 2014, 06:42:46 am
Cheers BDCS

I can't see how much m2 a ltr covers ?

I'm looking at around 40 m2

Do you roller or spray it on ?

Darran
Title: Re: Enhancing sandstone colours...
Post by: BDCS on July 22, 2014, 06:55:30 am
I used a paint pad and off hand I think a litre does up to 10m but ask Kevin
Title: Re: Enhancing sandstone colours...
Post by: Kev Martin on July 22, 2014, 10:42:16 am
Cheers BDCS

I can't see how much m2 a ltr covers ?

I'm looking at around 40 m2

Do you roller or spray it on ?

Darran

You are mixing the products up!  There is :

Miracle Enhance & Seal coverage is between 6-95M2 per coat per 946mls.  On most sandstones if applied correctly you will get around 60M2 per litre coverage it costs £36.76 + VAT per litre trade or £131.96 + VAT for a US Gallon which is a saving of £16.  Link Below

http://miraclesealants.com/s_seal_enhance.html

Then there is Aqua Mix Enrich N Seal which costs £43.99 for a litre and covers 12-35M2 per coat per 946mls and experience shows that you get 25M2 on Sandstone so the Miracle goes a lot further in fact more than double.  Here is the link to the En&S

http://www.custombuildingproducts.com/products/aqua-mix/enhancers/aqua-mix-enrich-n-seal.aspx

Both should be applied sparingly and both need to have the excess wiped off the surface thoroughly after application and penetration or you will end up with a greasy surface.

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics Ltd

Title: Re: Enhancing sandstone colours...
Post by: andrew kay on July 22, 2014, 11:23:07 am
Smudger,
After looking at photos,
There is a considerable amount of grout on slabs, this will affect the finish.
These areas are liable to be visable on the finished product.
I would first remove grout residue on slabs with a good grout cleaner
we use ltp ( Grimex). With slow speed scrubber with polyproplene brush,

After completing this procedure, completely clean area and leave to dry naturally.
Then apply ltp stone oil. Or similar products stated in earlier posts.

Andy
Title: Re: Enhancing sandstone colours...
Post by: Smudger on July 22, 2014, 07:36:53 pm
Cheers Andrew

Kev - which product is best ? Or pretty much the same

Darran
Title: Re: Enhancing sandstone colours...
Post by: Kev Martin on July 23, 2014, 06:40:51 am
Cheers Andrew

Kev - which product is best ? Or pretty much the same

Darran

Darran

That is a Tough Call ::)roll   For appearance in my opinion Aqua Mix just has the edge especially if you are only applying one coat but for coverage and longevity together with the guarantee if you have time to apply two coats I would choose Miracle.

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics
Title: Re: Enhancing sandstone colours...
Post by: Smudger on July 23, 2014, 06:53:29 am
Thx for taking the time to reply kev, will get back to the customer and see if they are willing to slash the cash !!

With regards to rotary scrubbers, I always imagined these as indoor items, do they work ok on exterior patio's - are they not to rough and uneven ?

Darran
Title: Re: Enhancing sandstone colours...
Post by: Kev Martin on July 23, 2014, 09:48:31 am
Thx for taking the time to reply kev, will get back to the customer and see if they are willing to slash the cash !!

With regards to rotary scrubbers, I always imagined these as indoor items, do they work ok on exterior patio's - are they not to rough and uneven ?

Darran

Darran

Absolutely not I have a team today doing a 46M2 Slate Patio and steps with one and tomorrow a set of Tennis Courts then next week a 514M2 Patio  all with Rotary Scrubbers and Wet Vacs.  Twice as efficient as pressure washers and 10 x less mess

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics
Title: Re: Enhancing sandstone colours...
Post by: Smudger on July 23, 2014, 05:05:15 pm
That's food for thought Kev.


Darran