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Title: Payload
Post by: Blackadder on July 19, 2014, 04:21:57 pm
Hey guys, just a quick enquiry, to have a 500litre van mount, what would payload have to be? Thinking of picking up a Peugeot expert tomorrow but payload is 1000-1200 against the smaller transit connect that can take more?
Title: Re: Payload
Post by: tlwcs on July 19, 2014, 04:26:13 pm
Hey guys, just a quick enquiry, to have a 500litre van mount, what would payload have to be? Thinking of picking up a Peugeot expert tomorrow but payload is 1000-1200 against the smaller transit connect that can take more?

Are you sure the connect can take more?
Tony
Title: Re: Payload
Post by: PurefectWindowCleaning on July 19, 2014, 04:27:19 pm
That would be 500 - 700 left to play with, so yeah it'll be fine (providing your not carrying guttervacs/carpet cleaner etc all the time, and on roids.  ;D
Title: Re: Payload
Post by: Blackadder on July 19, 2014, 04:29:33 pm
Maybe I misread on the internet earlier? I'm sure the connect would take 1500? Maybe not.
I do want to be taking the gutter vac on the road too, so it will be tight. Got two kids, so I wanted three seats but nothing as big as vivaro etc
Title: Re: Payload
Post by: PurefectWindowCleaning on July 19, 2014, 04:33:03 pm
Your do well to have WFP system, gutter vac etc in the van at all times, sod that.
Title: Re: Payload
Post by: tlwcs on July 19, 2014, 04:34:38 pm
No, I would check again.
The new lwb connect 240 only has a payload of 1006
Tony
Title: Re: Payload
Post by: Blackadder on July 19, 2014, 04:46:02 pm
Ok, cheers all.
Title: Re: Payload
Post by: AuRavelling79 on July 19, 2014, 05:51:06 pm
No, I would check again.
The new lwb connect 240 only has a payload of 1006
Tony

And the older ones are 900?
Title: Re: Payload
Post by: Simon Mess on July 19, 2014, 07:33:08 pm
No, I would check again.
The new lwb connect 240 only has a payload of 1006
Tony

And the older ones are 900?

Yes, 900kg (lwb 230)

Mark, either payload versions of the expert will manage a 500l system easily, but remember you also have the options of the expert's kissing cousins, the citroen dispatch and fiat scudo. You might also think about the current vauxhall combo, as there is a 1000kg payload version (2300).
Title: Re: Payload
Post by: Mike #1 on July 20, 2014, 09:42:22 pm
Hey guys, just a quick enquiry, to have a 500litre van mount, what would payload have to be? Thinking of picking up a Peugeot expert tomorrow but payload is 1000-1200 against the smaller transit connect that can take more?

Get a pick up if you have 2 kids best of both worlds I have an Mitsubishi L200 would not have anything else . Mike
Title: Re: Payload
Post by: PoleKing on July 20, 2014, 09:43:54 pm
Hey guys, just a quick enquiry, to have a 500litre van mount, what would payload have to be? Thinking of picking up a Peugeot expert tomorrow but payload is 1000-1200 against the smaller transit connect that can take more?

Get a pick up if you have 2 kids best of both worlds I have an Mitsubishi L200 would not have anything else . Mike

What an Amarok?
Title: Re: Payload
Post by: Elfyn on July 20, 2014, 09:46:46 pm
Mark - don't forget that payload also includes any persons in the van, fuel, equipment etc. - just about everything in the van.
Title: Re: Payload
Post by: Mike #1 on July 20, 2014, 09:51:03 pm
Would not touch an VW Amarok not really proven in the 4x4 world and over way priced , I Would  rather stick with a longterm rated truck which is up to the job as work horse with a 1.2 ton payload and 5 seats in the cab way better than a van . Mike
Title: Re: Payload
Post by: PoleKing on July 20, 2014, 10:31:47 pm
Would not touch an VW Amarok not really proven in the 4x4 world and over way priced , I Would  rather stick with a longterm rated truck which is up to the job as work horse with a 1.2 ton payload and 5 seats in the cab way better than a van . Mike

Looks the titties though.
Same payload. Wider loadbed. VW reliability.
I want one.
If i could stick a pole in it lengthwise it'd be on the drive already.

My brother runs a Barbarian. Lovely truck, granted. Not very refined but does it's job.
He used to have his poles on a roof rack but didn't like it so now sticks them (he's only got a 30' and an 18') in the cab. That'd do my swede in.
Where do you put your poles?
Title: Re: Payload
Post by: PoleKing on July 20, 2014, 10:34:32 pm
to add, i aint ready for a van for another 2 years but love the research phase.
I want a motor that will suit for work but i can whip the tank out and carry 4 bikes, the wife and 2 kiddies.
Like i say, Amarok is definitely my preference but the pole situation...
Title: Re: Payload
Post by: Blackadder on July 20, 2014, 11:28:47 pm
Ok, forget the kids for a moment, if I was to get a caddy, would the max tank I could put in there be 350ltr? This must be what all the guys running from caddy/partner/Berlingo/Connect are using yes? Is this considered enough in general of first year of work?
Title: Re: Payload
Post by: PoleKing on July 21, 2014, 12:14:13 am
Ok, forget the kids for a moment, if I was to get a caddy, would the max tank I could put in there be 350ltr? This must be what all the guys running from caddy/partner/Berlingo/Connect are using yes? Is this considered enough in general of first year of work?

The Caddy Maxi can have a payload Upto c. 900kg.
You'd get a 650ish tank in that, no worries.
Title: Re: Payload
Post by: KS Cleaning on July 21, 2014, 03:51:48 am
Ok, forget the kids for a moment, if I was to get a caddy, would the max tank I could put in there be 350ltr? This must be what all the guys running from caddy/partner/Berlingo/Connect are using yes? Is this considered enough in general of first year of work?

The Caddy Maxi can have a payload Upto c. 900kg.
You'd get a 650ish tank in that, no worries.
A 650 tank with 900 payload? ?  A think that would be cutting it fine, even for a 1 man set up
Title: Re: Payload
Post by: PoleKing on July 21, 2014, 07:39:00 am
Ok, forget the kids for a moment, if I was to get a caddy, would the max tank I could put in there be 350ltr? This must be what all the guys running from caddy/partner/Berlingo/Connect are using yes? Is this considered enough in general of first year of work?

The Caddy Maxi can have a payload Upto c. 900kg.
You'd get a 650ish tank in that, no worries.
A 650 tank with 900 payload? ?  A think that would be cutting it fine, even for a 1 man set up

Do you know anyone with one?
I do.
That's why I posted.
Title: Re: Payload
Post by: dazmond on July 21, 2014, 07:43:42 am
i still think a full 650L would be over the limit with a 900kg payload.i think im pushing it with a full 500L in my transit connect(900kg) first thing.
Title: Re: Payload
Post by: Simon Mess on July 21, 2014, 07:53:02 am
i still think a full 650L would be over the limit with a 900kg payload.i think im pushing it with a full 500L in my transit connect(900kg) first thing.

Agreed Daz, i have the same van, payload, and tank size as you, no way i could put another 150kg of water in my van, it would be 110kg overweight :o
Title: Re: Payload
Post by: Scrimble on July 21, 2014, 08:37:51 am
Ok, forget the kids for a moment, if I was to get a caddy, would the max tank I could put in there be 350ltr? This must be what all the guys running from caddy/partner/Berlingo/Connect are using yes? Is this considered enough in general of first year of work?

The Caddy Maxi can have a payload Upto c. 900kg.
You'd get a 650ish tank in that, no worries.

the caddy maxi have less than a 800kg payload, go on the vw website and have a look yourself
Title: Re: Payload
Post by: KS Cleaning on July 22, 2014, 12:25:28 am
Ok, forget the kids for a moment, if I was to get a caddy, would the max tank I could put in there be 350ltr? This must be what all the guys running from caddy/partner/Berlingo/Connect are using yes? Is this considered enough in general of first year of work?

The Caddy Maxi can have a payload Upto c. 900kg.
You'd get a 650ish tank in that, no worries.
A 650 tank with 900 payload? ?  A think that would be cutting it fine, even for a 1 man set up

Do you know anyone with one?
I do.
That's why I posted.
Why would I need to know someone who has one,  to know that a 650 Tank in a van with a 900 payload will be cutting it fine for being overweight? You may not like it, but the fact is you are wrong to suggest you can get a 650 tank ' no worries ' in the Maxi. I actually done a bit of research into the Caddy Maxi before I bought my Caddy, I fancied it for the extra length rather than payload but decided against one as I thought it was over priced.
Do you always take a hissy fit when someone disagrees wi your posts?
Title: Re: Payload
Post by: Mike #1 on July 22, 2014, 07:32:56 am
Would not touch an VW Amarok not really proven in the 4x4 world and over way priced , I Would  rather stick with a longterm rated truck which is up to the job as work horse with a 1.2 ton payload and 5 seats in the cab way better than a van . Mike

Looks the titties though.
Same payload. Wider loadbed. VW reliability.
I want one.
If i could stick a pole in it lengthwise it'd be on the drive already.

My brother runs a Barbarian. Lovely truck, granted. Not very refined but does it's job.
He used to have his poles on a roof rack but didn't like it so now sticks them (he's only got a 30' and an 18') in the cab. That'd do my swede in.
Where do you put your poles?


Hi Darren i only carry one pole and it goes in the cab i could put it in the back if i wanted but would have to take brush off as a have a fullbox sports cover on the back , You can see a pick on home page of my site .

L200's are glorified vans but practical and easy to clean internally which is good  especially when i had the dog in the back after been in the river . Mike
Title: Re: Payload
Post by: Simon Mess on July 22, 2014, 09:44:27 am
Ok, forget the kids for a moment, if I was to get a caddy, would the max tank I could put in there be 350ltr? This must be what all the guys running from caddy/partner/Berlingo/Connect are using yes? Is this considered enough in general of first year of work?

The Caddy Maxi can have a payload Upto c. 900kg.
You'd get a 650ish tank in that, no worries.
A 650 tank with 900 payload? ?  A think that would be cutting it fine, even for a 1 man set up

Do you know anyone with one?
I do.
That's why I posted.
Why would I need to know someone who has one,  to know that a 650 Tank in a van with a 900 payload will be cutting it fine for being overweight? You may not like it, but the fact is you are wrong to suggest you can get a 650 tank ' no worries ' in the Maxi. I actually done a bit of research into the Caddy Maxi before I bought my Caddy, I fancied it for the extra length rather than payload but decided against one as I thought it was over priced.
Do you always take a hissy fit when someone disagrees wi your posts?

The subject of payloads can be a particularly thorny issue on the forum KS, but even so, i dont see why you think poleking was having a 'hissy fit', it seemed quite a calm response to me!.

Bottom line, it is your responsibility to determine what size tank you can safely and legally carry in your van/pickup. So best advice would be if you have your eye on something in particular, explain to the dealer/seller what you want in for, and that you need to go on a weighbridge to confirm exactly how much payload you have to play with. They really shouldn't have a problem with that, and in most areas of the country, you shouldn't have to travel too far to find one. It is the only way to be sure.
Title: Re: Payload
Post by: KS Cleaning on July 22, 2014, 04:48:53 pm
Ok, forget the kids for a moment, if I was to get a caddy, would the max tank I could put in there be 350ltr? This must be what all the guys running from caddy/partner/Berlingo/Connect are using yes? Is this considered enough in general of first year of work?

The Caddy Maxi can have a payload Upto c. 900kg.
You'd get a 650ish tank in that, no worries.
A 650 tank with 900 payload? ?  A think that would be cutting it fine, even for a 1 man set up

Do you know anyone with one?
I do.
That's why I posted.
Why would I need to know someone who has one,  to know that a 650 Tank in a van with a 900 payload will be cutting it fine for being overweight? You may not like it, but the fact is you are wrong to suggest you can get a 650 tank ' no worries ' in the Maxi. I actually done a bit of research into the Caddy Maxi before I bought my Caddy, I fancied it for the extra length rather than payload but decided against one as I thought it was over priced.
Do you always take a hissy fit when someone disagrees wi your posts?

The subject of payloads can be a particularly thorny issue on the forum KS, but even so, i dont see why you think poleking was having a 'hissy fit', it seemed quite a calm response to me!.

Bottom line, it is your responsibility to determine what size tank you can safely and legally carry in your van/pickup. So best advice would be if you have your eye on something in particular, explain to the dealer/seller what you want in for, and that you need to go on a weighbridge to confirm exactly how much payload you have to play with. They really shouldn't have a problem with that, and in most areas of the country, you shouldn't have to travel too far to find one. It is the only way to be sure.
Ok, I intentionally exaggerated with hissy fit, I took his reply in the context it was meant.... Short and sharp!
Title: Re: Payload
Post by: PoleKing on July 22, 2014, 05:55:09 pm
Ok, forget the kids for a moment, if I was to get a caddy, would the max tank I could put in there be 350ltr? This must be what all the guys running from caddy/partner/Berlingo/Connect are using yes? Is this considered enough in general of first year of work?

The Caddy Maxi can have a payload Upto c. 900kg.
You'd get a 650ish tank in that, no worries.
A 650 tank with 900 payload? ?  A think that would be cutting it fine, even for a 1 man set up

Do you know anyone with one?
I do.
That's why I posted.
Why would I need to know someone who has one,  to know that a 650 Tank in a van with a 900 payload will be cutting it fine for being overweight? You may not like it, but the fact is you are wrong to suggest you can get a 650 tank ' no worries ' in the Maxi. I actually done a bit of research into the Caddy Maxi before I bought my Caddy, I fancied it for the extra length rather than payload but decided against one as I thought it was over priced.
Do you always take a hissy fit when someone disagrees wi your posts?

The subject of payloads can be a particularly thorny issue on the forum KS, but even so, i dont see why you think poleking was having a 'hissy fit', it seemed quite a calm response to me!.

Bottom line, it is your responsibility to determine what size tank you can safely and legally carry in your van/pickup. So best advice would be if you have your eye on something in particular, explain to the dealer/seller what you want in for, and that you need to go on a weighbridge to confirm exactly how much payload you have to play with. They really shouldn't have a problem with that, and in most areas of the country, you shouldn't have to travel too far to find one. It is the only way to be sure.
Ok, I intentionally exaggerated with hissy fit, I took his reply in the context it was meant.... Short and sharp!

Lols.
Thanks Simon.

KS. I don't do stroppy bud.
Now, genuinely, what did you discover re: VW payloads as opposed to other brands?
Title: Re: Payload
Post by: KS Cleaning on July 22, 2014, 07:32:50 pm
Ok, forget the kids for a moment, if I was to get a caddy, would the max tank I could put in there be 350ltr? This must be what all the guys running from caddy/partner/Berlingo/Connect are using yes? Is this considered enough in general of first year of work?

The Caddy Maxi can have a payload Upto c. 900kg.
You'd get a 650ish tank in that, no worries.
A 650 tank with 900 payload? ?  A think that would be cutting it fine, even for a 1 man set up

Do you know anyone with one?
I do.
That's why I posted.
Why would I need to know someone who has one,  to know that a 650 Tank in a van with a 900 payload will be cutting it fine for being overweight? You may not like it, but the fact is you are wrong to suggest you can get a 650 tank ' no worries ' in the Maxi. I actually done a bit of research into the Caddy Maxi before I bought my Caddy, I fancied it for the extra length rather than payload but decided against one as I thought it was over priced.
Do you always take a hissy fit when someone disagrees wi your posts?

The subject of payloads can be a particularly thorny issue on the forum KS, but even so, i dont see why you think poleking was having a 'hissy fit', it seemed quite a calm response to me!.

Bottom line, it is your responsibility to determine what size tank you can safely and legally carry in your van/pickup. So best advice would be if you have your eye on something in particular, explain to the dealer/seller what you want in for, and that you need to go on a weighbridge to confirm exactly how much payload you have to play with. They really shouldn't have a problem with that, and in most areas of the country, you shouldn't have to travel too far to find one. It is the only way to be sure.
Ok, I intentionally exaggerated with hissy fit, I took his reply in the context it was meant.... Short and sharp!

Lols.
Thanks Simon.

KS. I don't do stroppy bud.
Now, genuinely, what did you discover re: VW payloads as opposed to other brands?
can't you read? I said I fancied the Maxi for the extra length, the payload wasn't a factor for me, if it was I would have stuck with my Doblo Maxi as it had a 1000 kg payload. But since you ask,  the payload was around 750? Which allows for driver and fuel, so as I said earlier, 650 tank in a Caddy Maxi.....don't think so.
Title: Re: Payload
Post by: nokmond on July 22, 2014, 07:41:08 pm
I have a 500 litre tank in my astravan. Sue me.
Title: Re: Payload
Post by: KS Cleaning on July 22, 2014, 09:55:48 pm
I have a 500 litre tank in my astravan. Sue me.
A couldny care less what you have in your van, or anyone else for that matter, it's your / their prerogative, what a wouldny do tho is advise others to fit a tank that would potentially put their van overweight, because that would be bad advice.