Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: adrian marsh on July 13, 2014, 01:11:20 pm
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Anyone bought / used one. Good tool / bad tool. Your thoughts please chaps. :)
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Is this not a sapphire?
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I know what you mean Radek, but no, it's a Rotovac bit of kit. Different design, apparently.
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russ chad did a video of one being used on Facebook , he rates it.
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Bought one at Tacca day, Paul Pearce said best one he ever used or was he on commission ;D
It is awesome, yes it is not as dear as a sapphire, Two rows of jets go at 30 deg
at opp angles. If the plastic jet head gets damaged/worn its cheap and easy to replace.
Built in filter and flow control and velcro cuff to cover controls. 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I_HzsK_7ps
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This is what they think across the water.
http://www.truckmountforums.com/threads/new-rotovac-sheardry-review.57731/page-2#post-767737
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Well, hand in pocket and ordered one on the Alltec day :D Bit of an issue with setting them up correctly, so I'm told, but awsome when matched to your machine.
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The sapphire seemed rubbish when i first got it but once it was set up properly I found it to be the best upholstery tool I have ever used. I imagine the rotovac sheardry to be very similar.
Because there is no water spraying all over the place like a conventional tool you think its not rinsing properly but it definitely is!
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Well, hand in pocket and ordered one on the Alltec day :D Bit of an issue with setting them up correctly, so I'm told, but awsome when matched to your machine.
Do you get instructions on how to set up?
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How much discount did the give? I was hoping to attend my selve but was just too busy with the HP course this week
I would have bought one myself
If only someone from alltec from reading this and offered to exstendees the open day price :D
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yes £250 plus the dreaded is a lot easier to swallow than £300 + but it does look like a nice bit of kit.
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What instructions? been using mine for about a month, no instructions that i know of? Just connect, adjust the flow control and vac release if needed.
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Well, hand in pocket and ordered one on the Alltec day :D Bit of an issue with setting them up correctly, so I'm told, but awsome when matched to your machine.
Do you get instructions on how to set up?
Erm, erm..............I'll check :P
Creighton: A little bit more than that. It had 10% off, so £269 + vat.
What with other pieces of kit, new & second hand, I need a lie down, I've just added it all up ???
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How much discount did the give? I was hoping to attend my selve but was just too busy with the HP course this week
I would have bought one myself
If only someone from alltec from reading this and offered to exstendees the open day price :D
Go on then... Until the end of this week if anyone calls on 01763 208222 and mentions the forum they can have the Shear Dry Tool at the Open Day price of £269.00 + VAT :)
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How much discount did the give? I was hoping to attend my selve but was just too busy with the HP course this week
I would have bought one myself
If only someone from alltec from reading this and offered to exstendees the open day price :D
Go on then... Until the end of this week if anyone calls on 01763 208222 and mentions the forum they can have the Shear Dry Tool at the Open Day price of £269.00 + VAT :)
And commissions Karra???? ;D
Just used my new toy on the arms of our sofas. Had to double check there was water flow to the tool the fabric was so dry. Very impressed. Might even have been prepared to have paid more............or perhaps not ::)roll
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It's a good tool and I have quite a collection of upholstery tools!
Great on large cushions... The inline flow control is very sensitive and you have to set it just right or you will use loads of water... Too little and you will struggle to rinse... There is a sweet spot and the more you use it the easier it is to find it
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Russ
I've just ordered one, what pressure are you setting it at the machine ?
Stuart
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Think I'll wait till the Chinese start making it ;D
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You could wait forever mate, they haven't made the saphire yet and ive owned one of them for four years now
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It's probably made in China anyway ;D
Shaun
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Took delivery of my shear dry today and cleaned my first suit with it this afternoon, I see how folk would say its down to the fine tuning but its very similar to the saphire, it took me ages to master mine, I used to use loads of water in the early days! This hand tool appears to clean a lot easier but I think that is down to the two loops of continuous solution but time will tell !
Personaly I dont think the Quality of the overall tool is as good as the Saphire ( Sorry Chris )
But again time will tell if it lasts, I was a bit disapointed it didn't come with a 2inch conector but the inch and a half so I will a whip or converter
ive got four three piece suites to clean next week so it will get quite a bit of use
Stuart
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No need to get a converter surely.
If the tool fits an inch and a half i.e. the machine hose cuff goes over the tool, then the tool hose itself should fit the 2 inch machine hose directly - by going inside it.
The pic at the link shows the hose. The end of it will go over the inch and a half cuff - or inside a 2 inch cuff. http://www.reliance-supplies.co.uk/ekmps/shops/abracadabra1/images/prochem-sapphire-upholstery-pro-hand-tool-628-p.jpg
Thats what I do anyway with the saphire - surely its the same?
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To answer the question about what PSI to use... This tool does not rely on pressure to rinse like a regular jetted tool.
I have used mine on my little Sensai machine and that has a 150 psi pump fitted... You will never use this tool with the inline valve open more than half a turn.
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What are these tools like on something like office partitions?For those that have cleaned with the rotovac and sapphaire ,which is the best tool?
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Kev
The Saphire just goes over the 2inch hose but the Rotavac unfortunately does not
Stuart
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I doubt the 1.5" hose makes any difference at all, even with my smallest porty I have to open the vac relief or I get lock down and the tool becomes difficult to move.
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Rus
it probably dosent make any difference at all as for performance is concerned , its just a bit inconvenient as I use 2 inch hose, ive managed to get a steel converter tube now from woodbridge
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I've cleaned four suites with my new tool now , its definately the best tool in my arsenal,
and belive me I have a few, it cleans much better than any other as well leaving the material much drierthan anything iI've previously used
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Anyone got a Sapphire and a Shear Dry?
Would be interested in comparisons.
Simon
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Simon
I have a Saphire, I've had it nearly four years and yes it did take some time to get used to it, I used a hell of a lot of water in the early days, the sheardry is very similar but cleans much faster, the only problem at the mo, it spits a bit through two forward and two rear jets, Chris is trying to get the problem rectified
With rotavac, but I am very glad that I bought it, ive had it four days now and have cleaned six suites, cant see me going back to the Saphire in a hurry
Stuart
p s I also have 2 Drimasters and a cfr but the Rotavac is the Dogs Doolys
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Hi Stuart,
So when is this spitting problem going to be fixed, is it a manufacturing issue?
It looks wider than the Sapphire, is that right?
Simon
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Stuart. As you know I've only had my Shear Dry for a couple of weeks, but I've not encountered this "spitting" problem. Could it be too high a flow rate?
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Not saying its not possible but I cant see how the sheardry can be significantly quicker than the sapphire as they both clean on the forward an back strokes. The only real difference i can see is some of the jets point forwards and some back but that shouldn't matter as they both have forward and back vac slots. How is it that much quicker?
The sapphire also spits but thats what the flow adjuster is for. It works really well but probably only needs about 50psi.
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I think Russ has done a temporary mod using a slither of sponge to stop the spitting. I know it's not a permanent fix but seems to help. Takes about a minute to do.
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http://youtu.be/3QDwdQkrUzo
http://youtu.be/b6AOeqBtwgI
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You'd think they'd have picked up on that design flaw at the prototype stage?
Was going to order one just for comparison purposes with the sapphire, but might as well wait to they fix the issue.
Simon
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Imo the Rotavac is a better tool than the saphire even with the spitting probem, I've cleaned eight suites with it since I took delivery of it last thursday ! I cant see me reaching for the saphire in a hurry
The solution stays much hotter with the rotavac and seems to clean better than the saphire, I've had my saphire nearly four years and its had a hell of a kot of use but imo its not as good as the new tool
and to be honest the spitting hasn't made any difference to the end result
Stuart
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Surely the only way of it staying hotter is through it using more water?
Simon
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The heat comes through almost straight away, where as the saphire needs to be on constent and that uses all your water !
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If the heat comes through straight away then that is the result of flow and it is flow that eats your water. We use a 125 live hose reel on the TM and the sapphire is fizzing hot in trigger mode.
I also struggle when people say x tool cleans better, even though it is being compared to something almost identical. The truth is, any tool is only flushing out pre-loosened soil and so it is the quality, agitation, dwell time of your prespray that dictates how clean the fabric gets. It doesn't matter what tool you're using, if the prespray hasn't loosened the soil efficiently then you ain't going to get it as clean as you would otherwise.
What has change with upholstery tools over the years is jetless technology and lightweight which equals much greater ease of use, but if don't think they have provided a quantum leap in quality, the latest generation of chemicals have done that.
Simon
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Simon
you seem to be a bit of a know it all! So why ask the about the sheer dry in the first place
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Behave Stuart ;D Simon was simply expressing an opinion. However, whilst it's true to say the solution, aggitation & dwell is responsible for loosening the soils, it's also true that abc tool can be better than xyz tool. I've found the Shear Dry leaves fabrics drier as it performs more efficiently using less moisture than other tools I've used. As for heat, I don't have a TM and have never used high heat on fabrics. I bought one following the demo at the Alltec day and due to Paul Pearce telling me it was the best upholstery tool he'd used. Not being a sycofant but that was a good enough recommendation for me.
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Stuart,
I'm not being a 'know it all,' as you put it, I was merely pointing out that to get heat you need flow and flow uses water, if you are getting heat more quickly with the Shear Dry then you have to be using flow as there is no other way for it to reach the tool.
I try every new tool that comes on the market, but through them all I can't honestly say that one 'cleans' better than another, because they are merely flushing out pre-loosened soil. Some are very much easier and lighter to use, like the Saphhire and doubtless the Shear Dry, which when they fix the spitting glitch I will be purchasing myself. In my opinion, which is all I am expressing, 'cleans better' sometimes gets confused with 'cleans easier.'
Simon