Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: bobplum on June 20, 2014, 08:06:43 am
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and conservatory cleans!!!!!
I think i have come to a decision that after working all week on the glass i am now fed up of quoting £50.00 for a conny clean and being told "i didn't think it would be that much"........4 bed detached house, gutter, fascia clean including garage "£95.00, including garage".."how much, oh, didn't think it would be that much"
The one thing i have noticed is that the jobs i dont get all tend to be existing customers, (window cleans) and the quotes i do get tend to be non window cleaning clients
I am starting to think they are influenced by us using the pole system, they probably think "£15.00 for the house, his here 20 mins so the conny say £25.00" i am sure they are pre pricing themselves.
Thought i would share ;D
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I've stopped doing them. I'm pulled out with windows so I have to bear in mind going to quote an add on, then disrupting my sleek operation to go and do it- both costing me enough not to bother!!
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Nope, still doing them. It's about being able to sell them. Confirmed one yesterday, gutters in/out and windows - £425.00. Two houses next to each other, about 100 meters of guttering. Less than a days work for two of us.
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I only do this type of work mostly for non WC customers as I advertise and do leaflet drops away from my round using leaflets dedicated to these add on jobs
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I agree with you Bob ref current window customers thinking its only gonna be £xx .......... Mrs Chan as a perfect example ... "you only squirt you brush at it" ::)roll ::)roll
I now do windows 5 days a week which gives me the desired income and Saturdays are reserved for conny roofs / fsg / gutter cleans and maybe 1st cleans if its a biggun ... this month doing it this way has gave me the best month earnings wise ever :)
As its a "bonus" income I price any jobs accordingly as in not worried if I get them or not.
With connies I have thought for a while to price high ... very high and offer full valet only ... £300 a pop type of level ... who knows ? ... project for next year ... separate website etc. ...
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I only do this type of work mostly for non WC customers as I advertise and do leaflet drops away from my round using leaflets dedicated to these add on jobs
s'funny you should post this ... my next flyer gonna be conny roofs, fsg, gutter cleaning, BIG AND BOLD ............. and tucked away will be "oh by the way we also clean windows as well"
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ive got the add ons advertised on the back of my van UPVC,CONNY ROOFS AND SOLAR PANELS. ;D
i dont clean them if i dont earn £50-£60 an hour(min).if they want them done cheap then they can get someone else to do em!
yes hard work but worth it.i always book them in next time i clean their windows for existing customers and non window cleaning customers on a slack week. ;)
customers are usually very pleased with the results so great job satisfaction! :)
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btw .. kinda related but Virsol is brilliant at conny roofs ... used tfr for last few years and have done last couple with Virosol much better cleaning power :)
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Anyways Mr Plumb unlike you I still got some work to get thru before the 24th before I can have a few days off so im outta here ;D
Taken anymore bad cheques lately :o :o :o
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ian you ll burn yourself out pretty soon if your window cleaning a full 5 days a week then add ons on a saturday IMO unless you have staff?
i try and get all my work done mon-fri including add ons.i very rarely work a saturday these days and take the best part of a week off at the end/start of the month(depending on work due)to chill out before next months onslaught. :)
im still well up on earnings year on year in the last 5 years! ;)
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ian you ll burn yourself out pretty soon if your window cleaning a full 5 days a week then add ons on a saturday IMO unless you have staff?
i try and get all my work done mon-fri including add ons.i very rarely work a saturday these days and take the best part of a week off at the end/start of the month(depending on work due)to chill out before next months onslaught. :)
im still well up on earnings year on year in the last 5 years! ;)
Saving up for second van so working like a twit until Autumn ... have a decent winter fund and if don't need it then get 2nd van.
My work used to be done by me and a part timer 2 days a week now no part timer so gotta do it all myself and yup hard going but hate to see un done work at month end slip into following month.
Been doing 8.30 till 5pm this last month most days so managed to get thru all of it and bang up to date ... my month runs 25th to 24th and will be having a few days off end of next week.
Don't want another lad in van with me as im too nice and we become mates and work slips behind, late starts, longer lunches etc. however when van 2 is up and running it will be different as it will be here's the list go do it and don't come back until its done .
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minimum £60 plus vat for conny roof usually around £100 for average size, minimum 70 plus vat for gutter fascia soffits cleaning, dont do gutter clearing anymore,
still get the odd few sayng oh can you run the brush over the guttering for me? will a fiver cover it?
they are good earners but only when priced correctly, just because your charging £60 for an hour dazmond doesnt mean thats what you are earning per hour! classic mistake!
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Two or three con or fascia cleans every week,nice easy money
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I'm amazed that you are unable to get £100-£120-£150 on conservatory cleans. I suppose it's the way it's sold.
I've just been to price 2, (one is right on Dazmonds patch, but don't tell him) quoted £180 for conny/gutters/fascia/soffitts/windows. Prob take the 2 of us 1.5 to 2 hours. She said yes almost too quickly, probably could have quoted £80 more :(
2nd one was conservatory only, small but minging, quoted £120, again an instant yes. Both will be cleaned on the same day, using customers water and finished with pure.
For £50-£60 I wouldn't bother with this type of work either.
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btw .. kinda related but Virsol is brilliant at conny roofs ... used tfr for last few years and have done last couple with Virosol much better cleaning power :)
I agree Ian. I was using Ubik for a couple of years but for the last 18 months have used virosol and it's much better.
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I'm amazed that you are unable to get £100-£120-£150 on conservatory cleans. I suppose it's the way it's sold.
I've just been to price 2, (one is right on Dazmonds patch, but don't tell him) quoted £180 for conny/gutters/fascia/soffitts/windows. Prob take the 2 of us 1.5 to 2 hours. She said yes almost too quickly, probably could have quoted £80 more :(
2nd one was conservatory only, small but minging, quoted £120, again an instant yes. Both will be cleaned on the same day, using customers water and finished with pure.
For £50-£60 I wouldn't bother with this type of work either.
Are they regular window cleaning customers?? or one off enquiries
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no wonder I hate doing them, I have been charging WAY to little.
I did a massive conny roof, about 9 panes and charged £20, it took me about half a hour and was pretty clean.
I also hate doing gutters (manually) so have bought a gutter van and going to buy poles in a few weeks and start promoting it.
I was thinking of charging £1\ meter. so a 3 bed front is about £20?
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I was thinking of charging £1\ meter. so a 3 bed front is about £20?
waste of time charging peanuts
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I'll continue to do them until my gutter vac goes belly up! Price high as they are a pain in more ways than one! If you don't get the job then why be bothered !
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and conservatory cleans!!!!!
I think i have come to a decision that after working all week on the glass i am now fed up of quoting £50.00 for a conny clean and being told "i didn't think it would be that much"........4 bed detached house, gutter, fascia clean including garage "£95.00, including garage".."how much, oh, didn't think it would be that much"
The one thing i have noticed is that the jobs i dont get all tend to be existing customers, (window cleans) and the quotes i do get tend to be non window cleaning clients
I am starting to think they are influenced by us using the pole system, they probably think "£15.00 for the house, his here 20 mins so the conny say £25.00" i am sure they are pre pricing themselves.
Thought i would share ;D
Same Bob : I've noticed existing customers expect a keener price than 'walk ups'
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minimum £60 plus vat for conny roof usually around £100 for average size, minimum 70 plus vat for gutter fascia soffits cleaning, dont do gutter clearing anymore,
still get the odd few sayng oh can you run the brush over the guttering for me? will a fiver cover it?
they are good earners but only when priced correctly, just because your charging £60 for an hour dazmond doesnt mean thats what you are earning per hour! classic mistake!
i do earn £50-£60 an hour on add ons mate.i know how long they take.mine mainly come from existing customers so i clean them when i next clean their windows. ;) :)
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I'm amazed that you are unable to get £100-£120-£150 on conservatory cleans. I suppose it's the way it's sold.
I've just been to price 2, (one is right on Dazmonds patch, but don't tell him) quoted £180 for conny/gutters/fascia/soffitts/windows. Prob take the 2 of us 1.5 to 2 hours. She said yes almost too quickly, probably could have quoted £80 more :(
2nd one was conservatory only, small but minging, quoted £120, again an instant yes. Both will be cleaned on the same day, using customers water and finished with pure.
For £50-£60 I wouldn't bother with this type of work either.
Are they regular window cleaning customers?? or one off enquiries
One off enquiries. I'm a little cheaper for regular customers knowing that frames are already clean, but not much cheaper.
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I'm amazed that you are unable to get £100-£120-£150 on conservatory cleans. I suppose it's the way it's sold.
I've just been to price 2, (one is right on Dazmonds patch, but don't tell him) quoted £180 for conny/gutters/fascia/soffitts/windows. Prob take the 2 of us 1.5 to 2 hours. She said yes almost too quickly, probably could have quoted £80 more :(
2nd one was conservatory only, small but minging, quoted £120, again an instant yes. Both will be cleaned on the same day, using customers water and finished with pure.
For £50-£60 I wouldn't bother with this type of work either.
good for you danny.although there is 2 of you and you probably have at least 30 min drive(there and back)fuel expenses etc.thats all gotta be factored in.if i think the job would take 2 hours then it d be £120! ;).im happy with that! 8)
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Hi bob I'm in West Sussex,quoted today conservatory 15 by 12 complete outside £130 plus inside which I don't want to do £130 total job £260 also house windows £16 six weekly. And got the job
Just stay positive don't under sell yourself,we are all lucky and have regular work,name you price and stick to it
If you do it cheap you will regret it,the job I priced today was from recomendation if I'm there all day to do conservatory I'm happy as I think it a good day rate, I know some others in different areas don't get that sort of price,anyone can be cheap and busy. But that's not the way to run a business and make a good profit.
Maybe I'm lucky in the area I live,but I run a business,I offer a good service,reliable,insured,and a do a good job.
Good luck mate
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and conservatory cleans!!!!!
I think i have come to a decision that after working all week on the glass i am now fed up of quoting £50.00 for a conny clean and being told "i didn't think it would be that much"........4 bed detached house, gutter, fascia clean including garage "£95.00, including garage".."how much, oh, didn't think it would be that much"
The one thing i have noticed is that the jobs i dont get all tend to be existing customers, (window cleans) and the quotes i do get tend to be non window cleaning clients
I am starting to think they are influenced by us using the pole system, they probably think "£15.00 for the house, his here 20 mins so the conny say £25.00" i am sure they are pre pricing themselves.
Thought i would share ;D
Same Bob : I've noticed existing customers expect a keener price than 'walk ups'
this is definitely my experience
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Hi bob I'm in West Sussex,quoted today conservatory 15 by 12 complete outside £130 plus inside which I don't want to do £130 total job £260 also house windows £16 six weekly. And got the job
Just stay positive don't under sell yourself,we are all lucky and have regular work,name you price and stick to it
If you do it cheap you will regret it,the job I priced today was from recomendation if I'm there all day to do conservatory I'm happy as I think it a good day rate, I know some others in different areas don't get that sort of price,anyone can be cheap and busy. But that's not the way to run a business and make a good profit.
Maybe I'm lucky in the area I live,but I run a business,I offer a good service,reliable,insured,and a do a good job.
Good luck mate
was that you at the show colin ???
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I dont push them but have not done any in over a year and not really bothered . Mike
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I'm amazed that you are unable to get £100-£120-£150 on conservatory cleans. I suppose it's the way it's sold.
I've just been to price 2, (one is right on Dazmonds patch, but don't tell him) quoted £180 for conny/gutters/fascia/soffitts/windows. Prob take the 2 of us 1.5 to 2 hours. She said yes almost too quickly, probably could have quoted £80 more :(
2nd one was conservatory only, small but minging, quoted £120, again an instant yes. Both will be cleaned on the same day, using customers water and finished with pure.
For £50-£60 I wouldn't bother with this type of work either.
good for you danny.although there is 2 of you and you probably have at least 30 min drive(there and back)fuel expenses etc.thats all gotta be factored in.if i think the job would take 2 hours then it d be £120! ;).im happy with that! 8)
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Hi bob I'm in West Sussex,quoted today conservatory 15 by 12 complete outside £130 plus inside which I don't want to do £130 total job £260 also house windows £16 six weekly. And got the job
Just stay positive don't under sell yourself,we are all lucky and have regular work,name you price and stick to it
If you do it cheap you will regret it,the job I priced today was from recomendation if I'm there all day to do conservatory I'm happy as I think it a good day rate, I know some others in different areas don't get that sort of price,anyone can be cheap and busy. But that's not the way to run a business and make a good profit.
Maybe I'm lucky in the area I live,but I run a business,I offer a good service,reliable,insured,and a do a good job.
Good luck mate
was that you at the show colin ???
. No bob wasn't me at the show
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There must be another good looking guy called colin around your way ;D
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I don't bother much with them, there isn't the money in them in my area.
When starting out I used to under price them and got a few, but once my round was full I upped my
prices as I didn't really want them anymore.
My prices are still a lot lower than what some have quoted on here and I still don't get them.
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I think bobplum hit the nail on the head ....existing customers tend to think that for a bit extra you can, as scrimble said ..just give them a wipe while you're there. Did one for £60 last week,existing custie, took less than 2 hours. I was happy with that, she was very pleased with result. She'd had quotes from £90 to £150 . if they don't like your price tell them to get other quotes and see what happens. They're harder work than windows and should be a better hourly rate, so if they don't want to pay don't give it a second thought and, unless you're desperate for the extra cash, DO NOT drop your price.
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I think bobplum hit the nail on the head ....existing customers tend to think that for a bit extra you can, as scrimble said ..just give them a wipe while you're there. Did one for £60 last week,existing custie, took less than 2 hours. I was happy with that, she was very pleased with result. She'd had quotes from £90 to £150 . if they don't like your price tell them to get other quotes and see what happens. They're harder work than windows and should be a better hourly rate, so if they don't want to pay don't give it a second thought and, unless you're desperate for the extra cash, DO NOT drop your price.
That's what I do. Suggest they get other quotes.