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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: bobplum on June 12, 2014, 07:03:34 pm

Title: THE HISTORY OF WFP......
Post by: bobplum on June 12, 2014, 07:03:34 pm
Can someone on here please tell me who actually invented the WFP system for window cleaning??
Were did it originate?
Was it this country or some where else

I ask this because every time i have to explain to customers or potential customers , about WFP, i just wish i had the full facts

It beats watching Football ;) ;)
Title: Re: THE HISTORY OF WFP......
Post by: Barryy on June 12, 2014, 07:05:51 pm
POLEand
Title: Re: THE HISTORY OF WFP......
Post by: bobplum on June 12, 2014, 07:08:33 pm
POLEand

aha very good :D
Title: Re: THE HISTORY OF WFP......
Post by: herbiefatboy on June 12, 2014, 07:20:52 pm
americans
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Post by: colley614 on June 12, 2014, 07:23:21 pm
I've seen pictures of American window cleaners from the 1950's on here with big poles cleaning windows.

The first water fed pole system I came across was back in 2001 and was an ionics reach and wash. I was told they were the first systems on the market.
Title: Re: THE HISTORY OF WFP......
Post by: Paul Coleman on June 12, 2014, 07:59:49 pm
I first heard about it in the mid/late 90s but was told by a window cleaner that it needed £30k-£35k to set up - so presumably Ionics.  He said something about it cleaning well because the water was purified.  I just thought it sounded like a load of rubbish and didn't hear of it again till about '04.
I can't verify this but I heard that Tucker poles were using it in the USA in the 80's.
Title: Re: THE HISTORY OF WFP......
Post by: Window Lickers on June 12, 2014, 08:31:58 pm
The aborigines. They were using it for decades when western civilisation appeared on the scene.
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Post by: deeege on June 12, 2014, 09:52:03 pm
Pretty sure the Aztecs were WFP'ing as early as the 13th century.

Before that Solar Steve was claiming to be be the first pure water solar panel cleaner.
Title: Re: THE HISTORY OF WFP......
Post by: J.D on June 12, 2014, 10:30:34 pm
It actually originated here in Ireland. Irish whisky distillers first started washing glass with it and after tasting it they thought it would be perfect for making their potato wine taste better! A local stout brewer called Arthur Guinness got to hear about it and bought the water device from the two brothers for £100.00 (Quite a tidy some back in the day). The rest as they say is history...
Title: Re: THE HISTORY OF WFP......
Post by: Tadgh O Shea on June 12, 2014, 10:46:53 pm
Can someone on here please tell me who actually invented the WFP system for window cleaning??
Were did it originate?
Was it this country or some where else

I ask this because every time i have to explain to customers or potential customers , about WFP, i just wish i had the full facts

It beats watching Football ;) ;)
   

Hi Bob, I think Ionic Systems were the first company to produce carbon fiber pole systems in 1999, before that they were using the tucker aluminum pole systems until they went there own way.
now i think they are changing to little waffle cloths as they see them to be the future ;D
Title: Re: THE HISTORY OF WFP......
Post by: PoleKing on June 12, 2014, 10:52:37 pm
Can someone on here please tell me who actually invented the WFP system for window cleaning??
Were did it originate?
Was it this country or some where else

I ask this because every time i have to explain to customers or potential customers , about WFP, i just wish i had the full facts

It beats watching Football ;) ;)
   

Hi Bob, I think Ionic Systems were the first company to produce carbon fiber pole systems in 1999, before that they were using the tucker aluminum pole systems until they went there own way.
now i think they are changing to little waffle cloths as they see them to be the future ;D

A man who can laugh at himself will go far.
Title: Re: THE HISTORY OF WFP......
Post by: Tadgh O Shea on June 12, 2014, 11:04:17 pm
And this man knows how far he is going to go.
Title: Re: THE HISTORY OF WFP......
Post by: Tom White on June 13, 2014, 06:53:11 pm
And this man knows how far he is going to go.

The further the better, and once you go far, keep going and go a bit futher.
Title: Re: THE HISTORY OF WFP......
Post by: Tadgh O Shea on June 13, 2014, 08:29:38 pm
Chalk it down Tosh.
Title: Re: THE HISTORY OF WFP......
Post by: G Griffin on June 13, 2014, 11:28:50 pm
The aborigines. They were using it for decades when western civilisation appeared on the scene.
  ;D but true.
They filtered the water with a DI-dgeridoo.
It's a myth about the RO-mans doing it first.
Title: Re: THE HISTORY OF WFP......
Post by: paul ette on June 14, 2014, 07:55:24 am
Thought it was tucker pole usa
Title: Re: THE HISTORY OF WFP......
Post by: mark m on June 14, 2014, 03:31:52 pm
https://www.facebook.com/download/160485767459347/oldwfp.pdf
Title: Re: THE HISTORY OF WFP......
Post by: bobplum on June 14, 2014, 05:54:25 pm
https://www.facebook.com/download/160485767459347/oldwfp.pdf

NOT available Mark
Title: Re: THE HISTORY OF WFP......
Post by: tlwcs on June 14, 2014, 05:58:01 pm
Can someone on here please tell me who actually invented the WFP system for window cleaning??
Were did it originate?
Was it this country or some where else

I ask this because every time i have to explain to customers or potential customers , about WFP, i just wish i had the full facts

It beats watching Football ;) ;)
   

Hi Bob, I think Ionic Systems were the first company to produce carbon fiber pole systems in 1999, before that they were using the tucker aluminum pole systems until they went there own way.
now i think they are changing to little waffle cloths as they see them to be the future ;D

A man who can laugh at himself will go far.
+1
Title: Re: THE HISTORY OF WFP......
Post by: bobplum on June 15, 2014, 09:33:55 am
The process of osmosis through semipermeable membranes was first observed in 1748 by Jean-Antoine Nollet. For the following 200 years, osmosis was only a phenomenon observed in the laboratory. In 1949, the University of California at Los Angeles first investigated desalination of seawater using semipermeable membranes. Researchers from both University of California at Los Angeles and the University of Florida successfully produced fresh water from seawater in the mid-1950s, but the flux was too low to be commercially viable[2] until the discovery at University of California at Los Angeles by Sidney Loeb[3] and Srinivasa Sourirajan at the National Research Council of Canada, Ottawa, of techniques for making asymmetric membranes characterized by an effectively thin "skin" layer supported atop a highly porous and much thicker substrate region of the membrane. By the end of 2001, about 15,200 desalination plants were in operation or in the planning stages worldwide.[1]

Looks like these guys made it commercially viable
Title: Re: THE HISTORY OF WFP......
Post by: mark m on June 15, 2014, 04:17:36 pm
The first patented WFP was in 1895
Title: Re: THE HISTORY OF WFP......
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on June 15, 2014, 04:32:25 pm
I believe the first commercially available window cleaning systems were made by Tucker Pole Systems in the USA.  I had one of their systems secondhand 11 years ago. 

The pure water technology was being used a long time before hand and one use of it was during operations in hospital theatres.  Tap water is not a viable option due to the pollutants and chemicals which caused infections. 

In time, pure water of this nature was discovered to have an amazing ability to absorb dirt and began to be used in various industries, including cleaning.  Eventually, it was thought that it could be used to clean high-rise windows in America and water fed poles were born.

Long before that though, wall paintings of ancient Spanish and German civilisations have been discovered in caves that show them cleaning solar panels.  Sadly I was not the very first Deegee.  :-[ :'(