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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Pete Thompson on May 26, 2014, 09:51:59 pm

Title: Finally fitted a battery - how often to charge?
Post by: Pete Thompson on May 26, 2014, 09:51:59 pm
I finally got sick of draining the van's battery and just fitted a 115 amb hour leisure battery. 
So heavy I nearly broke by back lifting it.

Just wondering, how often do you fellas charge your battery?  I work on my own, use a standard ionics 100psi pump and don't have a split-charge relay.  I'll be charging it from the mains.

Once a week?  Once a fortnight?  Any advice appreciated.

This is it (before I fitted it)

(http://i58.tinypic.com/j8fjwp.jpg)
Title: Re: Finally fitted a battery - how often to charge?
Post by: J.D on May 26, 2014, 09:53:55 pm
Fit it up with a split relay & youll never have to charge it. Itll be charged as you drive.....
Title: Re: Finally fitted a battery - how often to charge?
Post by: Smudger on May 26, 2014, 09:59:42 pm
Fit it up with a split relay & youll never have to charge it. Itll be charged as you drive.....

+1

Don't faff taking it out, charge it while driving around

Darran
Title: Re: Finally fitted a battery - how often to charge?
Post by: Paul Coleman on May 26, 2014, 10:01:03 pm
For battery longevity, I would say charge it daily.  You may get two days use depending on how you use it but running it down shortens its life.
Relay is better though.
Title: Re: Finally fitted a battery - how often to charge?
Post by: Spruce on May 26, 2014, 10:09:36 pm
For battery longevity, I would say charge it daily.  You may get two days use depending on how you use it but running it down shortens its life.
Relay is better though.

^^^^^^ as David says.

I have my 110 amph leisure battery on a split charge relay, but as we do minimal mileage I usually supplementary charge it every night. If I get lazy, like today, I haven't put it on charge, but will definitely do it tomorrow evening if we get out (bad weather expected).

The first leisure battery was a cheapie and lasted 3 years. This one has been in the van for just over 3 years and still going strong. They recommend you never let your leisure battery drop to below 50% of charge for longevity.

My pump draws about 4.5 amps with a 2LPM flow. My son used his back pack so the second pump ran very slowly filling a 25l plastic container which he uses to refill his backpack. It draws about an amp. We used about 400 litres today. We were out for 5 hours so the pumps ran for about 3.5 hours - about right as I did a conservatory roof clean.

So theoretically we used about 18.5 amps from a fully charged 110 amp battery leaving 91.5 amps. The alternator probably replenished about 4 amps when travelling back home so I believe I am at about 86% full charged. If we do the same again tomorrow, we will be down to about 75% of fully charged, so will put the charger on tomorrow evening.
Title: Re: Finally fitted a battery - how often to charge?
Post by: Fin Clearview on May 26, 2014, 11:09:36 pm
If it's a gel battery don't use a relay. I charge my battery every night with an intelligent charger (ctek).
Title: Re: Finally fitted a battery - how often to charge?
Post by: SeanK on May 26, 2014, 11:22:52 pm
I have a 85amp and do the same as Spruce, have a split relay but don't do enough miles
to keep the battery fully charged.
A smart charger is a must.
Title: Re: Finally fitted a battery - how often to charge?
Post by: H20cleaning on May 26, 2014, 11:31:51 pm
It shouldn't really harm how often you put it on charge aslong as
You use a trickle type charger.
If your draining the battery very low, then charging back up your battery wont last aslong.
Then again if your charging it every night with a normal fast battery charger you can burn it out.

I personally charge it every other night with my trickle charge making sure it has at least 12 hours charge
Title: Re: Finally fitted a battery - how often to charge?
Post by: Pete Thompson on May 26, 2014, 11:38:49 pm
Thanks guys.

I have a CTEK Multi xs3600 charger, this one:

(http://www.leisurebatteriesireland.com/images/multi%20360.jpg)

Says it's for lead-acid batteries up to 120 amp hours, so I think it should be fine.

As for split relay, good advice thanks, I will probably pick one up tomorrow when I'm out.

Are they easy to fit?
Title: Re: Finally fitted a battery - how often to charge?
Post by: Griffus on May 27, 2014, 12:16:38 am
Thanks guys.

I have a CTEK Multi xs3600 charger, this one:

(http://www.leisurebatteriesireland.com/images/multi%20360.jpg)

Says it's for lead-acid batteries up to 120 amp hours, so I think it should be fine.

As for split relay, good advice thanks, I will probably pick one up tomorrow when I'm out.

Are they easy to fit?

CTEK are great but cost wise for leisure battery charging you're better with one like this as it's 10A: -

http://www.tayna.co.uk/Numax-Leisure-Battery-Charger-10A-P6128.html

Also, this is excellent: -

http://www.tayna.co.uk/Numax-Deluxe-Battery-Box-Accubox-P7784.html
Title: Re: Finally fitted a battery - how often to charge?
Post by: Mike #1 on May 27, 2014, 05:23:51 am
Pete you should get a full 8 days or so before needing to charge once reading gets down to 11.8 i whack mine on charge , Leisure batteries needing discharging about 90% to ensure longevity . Mike
Title: Re: Finally fitted a battery - how often to charge?
Post by: SeanK on May 27, 2014, 10:04:15 am
Pete you should get a full 8 days or so before needing to charge once reading gets down to 11.8 i whack mine on charge , Leisure batteries needing discharging about 90% to ensure longevity . Mike


No they don't, read up and you will find you shouldn't let them discharge below 30% plus leisure batteries
are designed to be charged and discharged on a daily basis that how they are used in caravans and leisure vehicles.
They are not designed to be drained and recharged.
Title: Re: Finally fitted a battery - how often to charge?
Post by: Carl2009 on May 27, 2014, 07:36:55 pm
If it's a gel battery don't use a relay. I charge my battery every night with an intelligent charger (ctek).

+1 and I have a split relay.
Title: Re: Finally fitted a battery - how often to charge?
Post by: firefly123 on May 27, 2014, 08:23:23 pm
charge every night split charge relay will only work if you do a fair few miles
Title: Re: Finally fitted a battery - how often to charge?
Post by: dave f on May 28, 2014, 09:30:18 pm
ive had a split charger for the last  never had a minuets bother saves all the hassel of charging.
Title: Re: Finally fitted a battery - how often to charge?
Post by: dazmond on May 28, 2014, 10:09:22 pm
i charge my 75ah leisure battery every night without fail.i just run an extension lead out through my letterbox to the van and leave it charging overnight after ive filled my tank.i use a halfords smart charger.
Title: Re: Finally fitted a battery - how often to charge?
Post by: david mark on May 28, 2014, 11:39:27 pm
same as Daz charge every night.Still have the carbon fibre batteries after 4 years shame they went bust BEST batteries on the market Alex g recommended them. back then