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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Barryy on May 22, 2014, 09:13:58 pm
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Hey guys, I'm looking for some expert advice regarding changing to a hot system.
At the moment I'm using a normal cold-water system as follows: Water filtered at home to an IBC, transferred each evening to my 500L van tank, Shurflo pump and Varistream controller, 100m 8mm minibore, pole hose, tecbuk brush.
I'm thinking of buying one of these Corwoods heaters: http://corwoodswindowcleaning.co.uk/shop/window-cleaning-extras/E-Z-Heat-System
Does anyone have any experience of these? For instance, are they easy to fit, reliable, easy to control, etc? Or is there a different heater system that you would recommend?
Also, I'd be looking to buy a re-fillable gas cylinder. Are these readily available in Rep of Ireland, and where does one go to get it filled each time?
Lastly, would anyone know if there are any Irish legal requirements regarding carrying a gas cylinder in van? And would carrying gas affect van insurance policy?
Thanks a mill.
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That link don't work bud.
I'm on my 2nd year with Corwoods L5.
It's fantastic. Can't recommend it enough.
Gas-I just use calor gas at present and change the bottles.
Next van will have a cylinder I can fill at the petrol station.
As for Irish law. No idea.
A caravan place may be your best bet.
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That link don't work bud.
I'm on my 2nd year with Corwoods L5.
It's fantastic. Can't recommend it enough.
Gas-I just use calor gas at present and change the bottles.
Next van will have a cylinder I can fill at the petrol station.
As for Irish law. No idea.
A caravan place may be your best bet.
Just edited the link, should work now, thanks for that. Good to hear that ur happy with the unit. Are they easy to fit? Do I need to buy anything extra?
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That's the one.
Couldn't be simpler.
Buy it and everything will become clear.
I'd change the plastic fittings to brass but other than that.
No. Simples.
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I wouldn't use that heater because it has no outlet to fit a flue it is meant to be used outside,
so you will end up filling your van with potentially dangerous fumes, even with a door open its not enough ventilation, these heaters need to have flues fitted,
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I would use something like the An Meny 8L heater that you can get on ebay. Having use both the L5 and the An Meny I know which I prefer, the L5 cuts out regularly and leaves you working with cold. As has already been said it has no flu attachment.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-8L-Gas-Tankless-Instant-Water-Heater-LPG-Stainless-/111293510823?pt=UK_Home_Garden_Hearing_Cooling_Air&hash=item19e99c34a7
Simon.
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I wouldn't use that heater because it has no outlet to fit a flue it is meant to be used outside,
so you will end up filling your van with potentially dangerous fumes, even with a door open its not enough ventilation, these heaters need to have flues fitted,
I have exactly this, 1 door left open whilst using.
Without issue and in it's 2nd year.
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no 20 min cut off on the L5 s from corwoods. ;) :)
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Thanks guys, gonna have a think about it, but i'm veering towards getting one, I'll let you know how i get on if i go ahead.
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I wouldn't use that heater because it has no outlet to fit a flue it is meant to be used outside,
so you will end up filling your van with potentially dangerous fumes, even with a door open its not enough ventilation, these heaters need to have flues fitted,
I have exactly this, 1 door left open whilst using.
Without issue and in it's 2nd year.
fact is they are meant to be used outside, inside they need to have a flue, check the manual and it will say,
so your still alive good for you,
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I wouldn't use that heater because it has no outlet to fit a flue it is meant to be used outside,
so you will end up filling your van with potentially dangerous fumes, even with a door open its not enough ventilation, these heaters need to have flues fitted,
I have exactly this, 1 door left open whilst using.
Without issue and in it's 2nd year.
fact is they are meant to be used outside, inside they need to have a flue, check the manual and it will say,
so your still alive good for you,
It only fire up when I'm not in the cab.
Never even smelt 'fumey' in the cab.
2 years use-not a headache or anything.
The fumes go right out into the atmosphere.
Flue for inside? Yes, a good idea if in a sealed room.
Not necessary in my van with the door open. As I have discovered.
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You don't always smell what will kill you!
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carbon monoxide has no smell and is deadly,
it is easy to fit a flue why take the risk?
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As it happens, I am in the process of fitting one.
'Cause I've now got a job where I wanna keep the doors closed.
I only posted that it wasn't needed in the interests of balance.
I stated what I've done for nearly 10 years. 2 years with the L5 from Corwoods, and the rest using a Morco boiler. (But that worked better with a flue tbh)
Without any problems or issues.
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carbon monoxide has no smell and is deadly,
it is easy to fit a flue why take the risk?
I know this is an old post but winter is coming again. My fog wash is in the middle of my van and I don't use a flue. I'm sure you think that's bad but its never set my carbon monoxide alarm off ( I got one because I was concerned about the dog). The alarm does work because it hates when I have the side door of the van open with the power washer hooked up to my tank. The fumes must blow in.
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carbon monoxide has no smell and is deadly,
it is easy to fit a flue why take the risk?
I know this is an old post but winter is coming again. My fog wash is in the middle of my van and I don't use a flue. I'm sure you think that's bad but its never set my carbon monoxide alarm off ( I got one because I was concerned about the dog). The alarm does work because it hates when I have the side door of the van open with the power washer hooked up to my tank. The fumes must blow in.
Shhhhhh David...... Some people on here don't like real world experience and knowledge.
As long as the area is well ventilated then these heaters are totally safe.
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Cowboys everywhere.
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Cowboys everywhere.
Those Indians don't stand a bloomin chance
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Cowboys everywhere.
Yeeeehhhhhhaaaaaa
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had my l5 running for over seven years now,with the doors open,the odds would be at some time my carbon monoixe alarm would go off-nah never has done,the gas heaters are a personal choice,and i feel that some don't like them,thats fine
don't knock it until you have tried it.
they have there uses for many jobs and does make life a little easier on a daily basis,but again don't knock it until you have tried it,the amery's are very good too had a week or so trying these out,both the amery and l5 are basicly the same inside the guts of it all,
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sorry just re-read your post mate,nat jones would be the guy to speak to regarding all the legalities and also the heaters and which one to get,and how to make them run just sweet,had mine running on 1litre per min with his advice
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Fitting a hot system is easy: one cold water pipe is
one hot water pipe coming out.
One gas pipe into unit
The best place to fit it is just inside your sliding door so all heat and fume can go out this door.
The difficult part is understanding your new hot system.
All P u hose self destruct at 65 -70 degrees and all fittings will burst at hotter so don`t be tempted to use at hotter than these temps
Another thought is the glass could crack at 65-70 degrees.
Everyone makes a fuss of the gas fumes and believe me that not a major problem.The fittings and the pressure that builds up after you close the pole tap and the gas heater switching off.
This little bit of water trapped in the heater unit will expand abit due to heat in the system and its whether your fittings can take it. So much has been said about the subject and yet so little information been imparted.
One also needs to understand the difference between flow and water pressure.The slower the water flows through the hotter the water will get, the faster the flow rate the cooler the water will get and this will differ between each make of water heater. There are many factors that play a part of your effectiveness of your hot system.Some get it right my luck some don`t and have all hell drake loose in there vans and some understand there system and are able to tame the animal..