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Title: Water Fed Pole Cleaning versus Traditional Squeegee Cleaning
Post by: Forrest Wheatey on May 21, 2014, 04:59:26 pm
Hello guys, the topic says the most. Here is an infographic with a comparison between the WFP and Traditional method, hope this will be interesting for you - http://www.reddit.com/r/cleaning/comments/264ld8/water_fed_poles_vs_traditional_window_cleaning/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/cleaning/comments/264ld8/water_fed_poles_vs_traditional_window_cleaning/)
It's a little survey of around 100 window cleaners from UK. I'd be more than happy if it helped some of you make a choice.
Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Cleaning versus Traditional Squeegee Cleaning
Post by: Forrest Wheatey on May 21, 2014, 05:00:55 pm
Also, i'd really appreciate it if you type your own preferences about the matter.
Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Cleaning versus Traditional Squeegee Cleaning
Post by: J.D on May 21, 2014, 05:06:03 pm
There is absolutely no comparison between the two, its chalk & cheese!
One method earns you a very good wage, is extremely safe & has superior cleaning results.
The other makes you work like a donkey, earns you a pittance & could very well kill you!

When will people ever take their heads out of their asses and wake up!  >:(
Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Cleaning versus Traditional Squeegee Cleaning
Post by: DaveG on May 21, 2014, 05:23:09 pm
Hang on, I'm just popping out for some popcorn
Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Cleaning versus Traditional Squeegee Cleaning
Post by: PoleKing on May 21, 2014, 05:45:04 pm
Horses for courses bud.
End of the day, we're in business.
Making the most money in the shortest time (for most) is the only constant.
There are pro's & con's if both methods.
Depending on how your list falls dictates which path you take.
To the lads making good money WFPing though, it is a wrong assumption to make thinking all tradders are 'ladder monkeys' & 'doley's', I know some who make a very good living from trad. Same as I know a few dossers poling.
Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Cleaning versus Traditional Squeegee Cleaning
Post by: wfp master on May 21, 2014, 05:57:44 pm
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1400691456_images (1).jpg)
Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Cleaning versus Traditional Squeegee Cleaning
Post by: J.D on May 21, 2014, 05:59:03 pm
Hang on, I'm just popping out for some popcorn

LOL  ;D
Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Cleaning versus Traditional Squeegee Cleaning
Post by: dazmond on May 21, 2014, 06:10:04 pm
Horses for courses bud.
End of the day, we're in business.
Making the most money in the shortest time (for most) is the only constant.
There are pro's & con's if both methods.
Depending on how your list falls dictates which path you take.
To the lads making good money WFPing though, it is a wrong assumption to make thinking all tradders are 'ladder monkeys' & 'doley's', I know some who make a very good living from trad. Same as I know a few dossers poling.

good post darren.i agree.
Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Cleaning versus Traditional Squeegee Cleaning
Post by: Forrest Wheatey on May 21, 2014, 06:11:22 pm
Hang on, I'm just popping out for some popcorn
Already popped mine. And the beer is near :) It wasn't that big of a survey so all foreign opinions are welcomed. If i get them with a brawl, so be it  ;D
Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Cleaning versus Traditional Squeegee Cleaning
Post by: Simon Mess on May 21, 2014, 06:17:28 pm
I have never done traditional, but i have no opinions that wfp is 'superior', it is just a different way of doing it. Having said that, there is no way i would be working up a ladder for the kind of money tradders work for!. Even if i wanted to, i couldn't work my round traditional, it is too spread out. The travel costs would outweigh the profits.

But at the end of the day, each to there own :)
Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Cleaning versus Traditional Squeegee Cleaning
Post by: wfp master on May 21, 2014, 06:23:33 pm
Hang on, I'm just popping out for some popcorn
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1400692999_popcorn_yes.gif)
Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Cleaning versus Traditional Squeegee Cleaning
Post by: dazmond on May 21, 2014, 07:13:47 pm
my mop and blade do come out and get used nearly every day for certain  work but its only the odd windows here and there.

once you get into your stride with wfp there is no going back providing you have a big enough tank. i have 500L of pure to take with me to work every day.perfect size for wfpoling all day for me. ;)
Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Cleaning versus Traditional Squeegee Cleaning
Post by: Jonny 87 on May 21, 2014, 07:50:05 pm
my mop and blade do come out and get used nearly every day for certain  work but its only the odd windows here and there.

once you get into your stride with wfp there is no going back providing you have a big enough tank. i have 500L of pure to take with me to work every day.perfect size for wfpoling all day for me. ;)

+1

I went from a vw caddy with 350 litre tank, to toyota hiace with a 650 tank. Wish I'd done it sooner.

I pole pretty much everything now. Still use pad and blade a bit, but prefer to pole it if possible.

Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Cleaning versus Traditional Squeegee Cleaning
Post by: AuRavelling79 on May 21, 2014, 10:04:12 pm
And this years "resurrections of topics that make Lazerus's pale into insignificance" thread award goes to ...

Drum roll ...

Forrest Wheatey!

Yay!
Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Cleaning versus Traditional Squeegee Cleaning
Post by: G Griffin on May 21, 2014, 11:28:36 pm
Hello guys, the topic says the most. Here is an infographic with a comparison between the WFP and Traditional method, hope this will be interesting for you - http://www.reddit.com/r/cleaning/comments/264ld8/water_fed_poles_vs_traditional_window_cleaning/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/cleaning/comments/264ld8/water_fed_poles_vs_traditional_window_cleaning/)
It's a little survey of around 100 window cleaners from UK.  I'd be more than happy if it helped some of you make a choice.
It's only like Family Fortunes, you miserable lot.
Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Cleaning versus Traditional Squeegee Cleaning
Post by: andrew wakeman on May 22, 2014, 12:05:11 am
Well myself i prefer to use both depending on the job requirements. I never rush a job cos window cleaning fits in around my main job. I think rushing is a bad business move people pay for a job well done not slap dash. I know time is money in your game but in my game im about quality over time.
Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Cleaning versus Traditional Squeegee Cleaning
Post by: rosskesava on May 22, 2014, 12:17:43 am
You just can't beat a properly conducted scientific survey with peer reviewed statistics can you.

Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Cleaning versus Traditional Squeegee Cleaning
Post by: AuRavelling79 on May 22, 2014, 07:31:45 am
You just can't beat a properly conducted scientific survey with peer reviewed statistics can you.



 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Cleaning versus Traditional Squeegee Cleaning
Post by: lal on May 22, 2014, 07:48:35 am
I have never done traditional, but i have no opinions that wfp is 'superior', it is just a different way of doing it. Having said that, there is no way i would be working up a ladder for the kind of money tradders work for!. Even if i wanted to, i couldn't work my round traditional, it is too spread out. The travel costs would outweigh the profits.

But at the end of the day, each to there own :)
 
Hi Simon, you mention above you have never done traditional, how do you clean inside windows when requested by
customers ?
Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Cleaning versus Traditional Squeegee Cleaning
Post by: dave f on May 22, 2014, 08:30:20 am
im loosing the will to live with wfp v trad. lock it
Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Cleaning versus Traditional Squeegee Cleaning
Post by: Chris - CBWC on May 22, 2014, 07:18:48 pm
I do wfp tops as I won't use ladders any more (hurt my back a couple of years ago, not going through that again), not happy with results but hopefully it's because I've only just started and am slow.

Trad the bottoms, far more comfortable with trad and feel that I'm quicker and probably not used to the pole but it's knackering my hands, arms, elbows, shoulders already!  And I use an SLX with Xtreme brush - maybe I'm just not built to be a windie!
Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Cleaning versus Traditional Squeegee Cleaning
Post by: J.D on May 22, 2014, 07:20:20 pm
Clean the whole house with wfp Chris. Your obviously not feeling confident and you need to shake that off!
Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Cleaning versus Traditional Squeegee Cleaning
Post by: colin bird on May 22, 2014, 07:32:52 pm
There is absolutely no comparison between the two, its chalk & cheese!
One method earns you a very good wage, is extremely safe & has superior cleaning results.
The other makes you work like a donkey, earns you a pittance & could very well kill you!

When will people ever take their heads out of their asses and wake up!  >:(
+1
Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Cleaning versus Traditional Squeegee Cleaning
Post by: J.D on May 22, 2014, 07:34:30 pm
Great minds and all that Colin... :)
Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Cleaning versus Traditional Squeegee Cleaning
Post by: PoleKing on May 22, 2014, 10:01:49 pm
I do wfp tops as I won't use ladders any more (hurt my back a couple of years ago, not going through that again), not happy with results but hopefully it's because I've only just started and am slow.

Trad the bottoms, far more comfortable with trad and feel that I'm quicker and probably not used to the pole but it's knackering my hands, arms, elbows, shoulders already!  And I use an SLX with Xtreme brush - maybe I'm just not built to be a windie!

Assume you're doing domestic 2 storey places?
If you're aching poling that with SLX, I wonder if you're stressing a bit?
It could tense your body up.
It's easy to say and harder to do but, try to relax a little.
It may just help the aches.
Maybe just do your own windows and experiment on hand positions, shoulders, neck, distance from glass etc.
If it is that, once you relax, you'll be able to pole top & bottom.
That'll be quicker overall.