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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Ben Lugg on May 11, 2014, 09:24:54 pm

Title: ENFORCER !!
Post by: Ben Lugg on May 11, 2014, 09:24:54 pm
Hi,
I'm now the proud owner of the new Asbys 400psi enforcer. Just had to tell you about it.
I've had a steempro powermax for a few years and admittedly it has served me well.
The Enforcer however has blown me away and made me realise I should have upgraded long before now. To all the guys/gals who are thinking of upgrading to a more powerful machine, as Nike says JUST DO IT !!

Ben.
Title: Re: ENFORCER !!
Post by: JandS on May 12, 2014, 04:57:35 pm
I have the Ninja Ben, had it 5 years in June...2 new vacs and pump overhaul and that's all it's ever had done....oh did I mention I changed the brushes on both vacs yesterday and they both still work.
Seriously, when I upgrade it will be the Enforcer, if the build quality is anything like the Ninja it will be a steal.
Gave a guy a hand last year who had the Jag...it has some power but tbh the build quality is a bit poor.
Title: Re: ENFORCER !!
Post by: Ben Lugg on May 12, 2014, 07:07:17 pm
The build quality is fantastic , just trying to adjust to the weight difference etc.
But like the ninja a brilliant machine
Ben.
Title: Re: ENFORCER !!
Post by: Paul Redden Countryfresh on May 12, 2014, 07:57:55 pm
Nice comment Martin
Title: Re: ENFORCER !!
Post by: Ben Lugg on May 12, 2014, 08:01:37 pm
Whose Martin ?
Title: Re: ENFORCER !!
Post by: Hawks on May 12, 2014, 08:08:09 pm
JandS you didn't like the JAG?
Title: Re: ENFORCER !!
Post by: JandS on May 12, 2014, 08:26:24 pm
Lot of minor things Hawks.

No fresh water tank lid.
The top of the machine fits inside the bottom half of the machine, do it the other way round and you won't get water in the engine compartment...got to be very careful filling.
Two pipe stacks in waste tank means poor access to the bottom of the waste tank, and those filters on the stacks, what's all that about....mine has a table tennis ball in a mesh cage which floats up as water rises and eventually blocks the vac intake..simples.
Even the waste gate valve was fitted skewed off centre...first thing I noticed.
Think he had to prime it as well....what's that all about this day and age.
Title: Re: ENFORCER !!
Post by: stuart_clark on May 12, 2014, 09:04:21 pm
Two pipe stacks means bettrr airflow !  Thats where Extracta fell down with there Exell machine ! 2x 7inch motors but both sucking through one pipe, one hell of a restriction
Title: Re: ENFORCER !!
Post by: CleanerCarpets on May 13, 2014, 03:58:05 pm
Stuart - the triple Airflex has one stack (although its big bore) and it sucks like a ten dollar hooker!!

I hated the fact you couldnt dump all the water out of the Scorpion on the gate valve - the rubber bung has to come off the side to get it empty so during a job after emptying you still have a good 6 litres of water in the dirty tank
Title: Re: ENFORCER !!
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on May 13, 2014, 06:17:09 pm
Is the enforcer more powerful than the ninja?

Shaun
Title: Re: ENFORCER !!
Post by: JandS on May 13, 2014, 06:27:25 pm
How more airflow?? Surely the airflow is created by the actions of the wand.
Title: Re: ENFORCER !!
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on May 13, 2014, 06:41:36 pm
I have various wands but there's no airflow with no machine.

Shaun
Title: Re: ENFORCER !!
Post by: stuart_clark on May 13, 2014, 07:07:59 pm
You will have to ask john martin over this one, but if  the airflow is restricted at the motor it seams reasonable to think there would be less overall
Title: Re: ENFORCER !!
Post by: john martin on May 13, 2014, 07:50:13 pm
You will have to ask john martin over this one, but if  the airflow is restricted at the motor it seams reasonable to think there would be less overall

I dont know everything   ;D

I think the general trend in the last few years is to make the internal plumbing as non restrictive as possible either by one big bore stack or independent stacks . The filter design on the old excels might have also contributed to restriction , think it was covered in foam .. which would also be prone to clogging a bit .

I have however picked up an Enforcer almost new and i can confirm that it sucks ...  in a good way .
Its a tremendous machine , no need to consider anything else ... (well perhaps the Alltec evolution or the Airflex )
Cant fault the Enforcer really ... i might tweak mine a bit though .
Title: Re: ENFORCER !!
Post by: Paul Moss on May 13, 2014, 07:55:24 pm
John, enforcer or storm ?
Title: Re: ENFORCER !!
Post by: john martin on May 13, 2014, 08:03:31 pm
John, enforcer or storm ?

I would hate to call that , iv not had a storm .. 
It might depend on your usage or priority's  .
The two vacs and 400psi pump on one cord suits me  .... and i like to have an immersion heater as well as an inline  .

Somebody else might make a case for the storm ... perhaps if you need the bigger pump .  Its just difficult to see a body design better that the Enforcer , and the vacs work well despite not having a thousand cfm on paper ....
I think Glynn here has both ?
Title: Re: ENFORCER !!
Post by: Paul Moss on May 13, 2014, 08:10:15 pm
Last year, I could not make my mind up and ended up with the Storm.
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Post by: stuart_clark on May 13, 2014, 09:08:00 pm
Paul

thought you had a super dooper truckmount mate ?
Title: Re: ENFORCER !!
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on May 13, 2014, 09:35:21 pm
Is the enforcer with its set up as powerful as a 2 x 6.6 set?

Shaun
Title: Re: ENFORCER !!
Post by: Paul Moss on May 13, 2014, 09:38:05 pm
Paul

thought you had a super dooper truckmount mate ?

Yep but you still need a porty for those jobs you can't get with the truck and as a back up. ;)
Title: Re: ENFORCER !!
Post by: feldon on May 13, 2014, 10:27:50 pm
So Paul which is better the TM or the Storm? ;)
Title: Re: ENFORCER !!
Post by: john martin on May 14, 2014, 08:29:21 pm

  Couple of small  Enforcer mods this evening ...

  Installed a second HD Electro ( tapered fan version )  ... thats the motor on top

http://oi61.tinypic.com/10eel5k.jpg


Very quick test shows an increase in suction  .... I will measure current draw tomorrow  .

http://oi60.tinypic.com/152dkpl.jpg

http://oi59.tinypic.com/2mgk3me.jpg


Port to plug in Quadvac booster  ....  when ever i round to building it

http://oi60.tinypic.com/i3s2ns.jpg
Title: Re: ENFORCER !!
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on May 14, 2014, 08:51:53 pm
So adding another vac to your enforcer externally then you'd have the most vacuum packed porti in the uk.

In theory it's as powerful as the Woodbridge etm.

Shaun

Ps would that be on 2 power cords?
Title: Re: ENFORCER !!
Post by: john martin on May 14, 2014, 09:28:31 pm
So adding another vac to your enforcer externally then you'd have the most vacuum packed porti in the uk.

In theory it's as powerful as the Woodbridge etm.

Shaun

Ps would that be on 2 power cords?

Yeah Shaun  ...    Another two vacs in series in an external box ( probably a plastic tool box )    .
That would be one cord for the Enforcer and another for the twinvac booster .
Like you said that should be the same setup as the Escape .   But the option to use it in two vac  mode .   Really it performs well enough with the two internal vacs for most short range jobs .
Title: Re: ENFORCER !!
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on May 14, 2014, 09:40:51 pm
It'll be interesting to see what happens with the 8.4 vacs and if they make a booster with it, it's a great 2nd choice to truck mount power....it's getting closer!

Shaun
Title: Re: ENFORCER !!
Post by: john martin on May 15, 2014, 07:06:06 pm
   
   Current draw for two HD vacs and the 400psi pump up full  = 

   http://oi58.tinypic.com/2edxpn6.jpg

   Full restriction ( hand blocking airflow )    =
  http://oi59.tinypic.com/i299cp.jpg


    So the manufactures probably have stick to < 13 amps ... 
   feck it , im sticking with this and see how it goes .
Title: Re: ENFORCER !!
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on May 15, 2014, 08:01:37 pm
Keep at it and keep reporting back.

Shaun