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Title: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: bobplum on May 07, 2014, 06:55:59 pm
no prices on
Just about to do a run of leaflets cant decide whether to put prices on or not, i would appreciate peoples views

many thanks
bob
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: Ian101 on May 07, 2014, 07:00:05 pm
Yes good idea... but then no ...  ;D
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: capn sparkle on May 07, 2014, 07:02:33 pm
I'm a No Bob - Ex professional canvasser, turned windy
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: David Kent @ KentKleen on May 07, 2014, 07:23:34 pm
What distribution plan Bob?
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: bobplum on May 07, 2014, 07:26:02 pm
What distribution plan Bob?

HAVE TWO PEOPLE DOING THE DISTRIBUTING FOR ME
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: bobplum on May 07, 2014, 07:26:58 pm
Yes good idea... but then no ...  ;D

says the man  "im leaving........no im not..........well i may be.......but then i might not be" ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: *Hector* on May 07, 2014, 07:28:49 pm
Do you want people to phone up and book? If so yes put the prices on, but make them cheap enough for people to just book you..

Do you want higher prices? then no don't put prices on, and sell your service to them at a higher price..

HTH
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: robertphil on May 07, 2014, 07:35:20 pm
iv never put prices on mine case im still using them yrs later

if was goin to ,i would put "most houses are£xx       "      a ballpark figure    whatever is your price for a 3 bedder
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: bobplum on May 07, 2014, 07:41:19 pm
bob send me an email at sortedrst@hotmail.com

Got a proven leaflet idea from a friend, but its not for the lurkers  >:(
WILL DO IN THE NEXT 30 MINS ;)
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: Clever Forum Name on May 07, 2014, 07:43:51 pm
bob send me an email at sortedrst@hotmail.com

Got a proven leaflet idea from a friend, but its not for the lurkers  >:(
WILL DO IN THE NEXT 30 MINS ;)

Cool beans, it will only work in certain situations. But its a good idea :p
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: bobplum on May 07, 2014, 07:46:11 pm
bob send me an email at sortedrst@hotmail.com

Got a proven leaflet idea from a friend, but its not for the lurkers  >:(


done
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: David Kent @ KentKleen on May 07, 2014, 07:47:56 pm
Is that the full plan? Are you repeat dropping on areas you want to build up? blanket dropping a large area?
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: Clever Forum Name on May 07, 2014, 07:58:24 pm
bob send me an email at sortedrst@hotmail.com

Got a proven leaflet idea from a friend, but its not for the lurkers  >:(


done

BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBOOOOM
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: robbo333 on May 07, 2014, 08:05:35 pm
No price! Unless you know you're one of the cheapest.
Get the info correct on the leaflet, that should get the custys calling you.
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: bobplum on May 07, 2014, 08:28:58 pm
Is that the full plan? Are you repeat dropping on areas you want to build up? blanket dropping a large area?

ah right!!!
one girl is repeat dropping in an area i work in, this will probably a bi monthly repeat but may make it monthly and the other girl will be in  a completely new area to me so that will probably be a continuous drop monthly for the next three months or so
one girl has to work it around work commitments so it may be a longer process
the other has more time (new area) so that will hopefully be done month after month

i have to say with doubt the distribution is the hardest part of leafleting, design and printing not a problem,  and the small experience i have of it is that it has to planned and coordinated, still early days yet ;D
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: David Kent @ KentKleen on May 07, 2014, 08:57:43 pm
Sounds good bob, IMO leaflet areas/estates on a WEEKLY basis for fantastic results. Time the drops to take place a couple of days before you are working in that area.
Good luck mate!
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: Carl@Cwc on May 07, 2014, 08:58:05 pm
bob send me an email at sortedrst@hotmail.com

Got a proven leaflet idea from a friend, but its not for the lurkers  >:(
WILL DO IN THE NEXT 30 MINS ;)

Cool beans, it will only work in certain situations. But its a good idea :p

can i have a look please  :)
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: Carl@Cwc on May 07, 2014, 08:59:16 pm
Sounds good bob, IMO leaflet areas/estates on a WEEKLY basis for fantastic results. Time the drops to take place a couple of days before you are working in that area.
Good luck mate!

hi m8
can i have a look at the leaflet you were on about a few weeks ago too please.
just finishing a set of new leaflets and always looking for inspiration? :)
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: robertphil on May 07, 2014, 09:03:51 pm
Sounds good bob, IMO leaflet areas/estates on a WEEKLY basis for fantastic results. Time the drops to take place a couple of days before you are working in that area.
Good luck mate!
;)
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: David Kent @ KentKleen on May 07, 2014, 09:05:47 pm
Mine are not inspiring  :o Simple, no picture design, Logo/name colours match our branding. All have prices on.  A5, glossy. Delivered always by myself and a helper or 2.
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: HampshireWindowCleaning on May 07, 2014, 09:14:18 pm
Sounds good bob, IMO leaflet areas/estates on a WEEKLY basis for fantastic results. Time the drops to take place a couple of days before you are working in that area.
Good luck mate!
You deliver leaflets to the same houses on a weekly basis?
Would it not be quicker to knock on their door and sell your service
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: David Kent @ KentKleen on May 07, 2014, 09:56:10 pm
Correct WEEKLY (when we are round building)
Knocking, No, far too slow IMO
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: robertphil on May 08, 2014, 04:38:27 am
i like the phrase blanket dropping



 bit like carpet bombing

 thatd be 1 good reason to go into carpet cleaning,just so i could say on my website" carpet bombing in suffolk"
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: dave f on May 08, 2014, 06:45:29 am
ive just put a new leaflet together with photos ,and a box with per month left blank to fill in after a quick reckey at the property, if get a call i ask if they have a conny and adjust the price if they have
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: bobplum on May 08, 2014, 08:02:52 am
ive just put a new leaflet together with photos ,and a box with per month left blank to fill in after a quick reckey at the property, if get a call i ask if they have a conny and adjust the price if they have

dave any chance of a look, bob, wcsproclean@gmail.com

thanks
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: dave f on May 08, 2014, 02:57:51 pm
i aint got a clue how to up load basicly got a couple of photos off tinternet.of awkward windows high 3story windows  explaining that frames cleaned free.etc our lass printed them off then took them to a local printer who ajusted them to suit
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: Mick Kent on May 08, 2014, 03:14:33 pm
Correct WEEKLY (when we are round building)
Knocking, No, far too slow IMO

Err???
Re leafletting week after week to the same house for it to get binned each time or knock once and see if they actualy need a cleaner?? id say the leaflet method each week to the same houses would be the far too slow method.
Grow some balls and sell yourself at the door and canvass and leave a leaflet if they are not home, will save time and build up at a much faster rate.

I try not to participate in leaflet threads as it upsets vince who also hasnt the minerals to knock and sell himself however what you said about door knocking being the slower method against repeat leafletting the same houses over and over each week is simply nuts unless i have read it wrong??.
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: CasaDeCabra on May 08, 2014, 06:16:23 pm
Quote
I try not to participate in leaflet threads

Obviously not trying hard enough!!
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: David Kent @ KentKleen on May 08, 2014, 10:40:18 pm
Mick, stick to knocking! I will stick to leaflets, I will be starting my 4th 'full time' van next month through leaflets alone! Think that's quick enough pal!  8)
Every hour I leaflet brings in 7 jobs on average.
Its not whats on your leaflet its how you leaflet and what standard of clean you do for your local community.
As regards to knocking, I worked for Everest 'Fit the Best' cold calling, my balls are massive!
 ;D
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: carl neal on July 31, 2014, 08:28:12 pm
I think 7 jobs evey hour is bullcrap ive been cleaning windows 20 years it drpends on luck on the estate u dropping them so u saying u leaflet for 8 hours you get 56 houses ye right !
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: David Kent @ KentKleen on July 31, 2014, 10:41:31 pm
Thanks for your input Carl. Heres to your next 20 years!!!!!
If you want my correct stats you are slighlty out.
From 9 hours of leafletting in January I have 83 new accounts serviced every 4 weeks.
Keep up the good work.   
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: PoleKing on July 31, 2014, 10:44:11 pm
Thanks for your input Carl. Heres to your next 20 years!!!!!
If you want my correct stats you are slighlty out.
From 9 hours of leafletting in January I have 83 new accounts serviced every 4 weeks.
Keep up the good work.  

Totalling £? Per month though David?
Over 9 regular decent customers an hour is certainly a rate neither myself or anyone I know of could achieve. But if you have, hats off!
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: richywilts on July 31, 2014, 10:50:18 pm
defo on so i can go round underpricing  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: CleanClear on July 31, 2014, 10:53:40 pm
One of the good things about putting a price on your leaflet as Lee Pryor once explained here and it made sense to me, is that when you get a call then its generally to do the job you aint going out quoting. Obviously it depends upon your local "competition", if your local competition is a couple of rag arses then pricing twice them should be no problem.
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: David Kent @ KentKleen on July 31, 2014, 10:58:20 pm
Time and time again I tell everyone on here.
ITS ALL ABOUT HOW YOU LEAFLET. NOT HOW MANY YOU PUT OUT!!!!!!!!!!
I could not of achieved those results starting out.
If it was easy everyone would be doing it.
Dedication, ooohhh dedication.
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: David Kent @ KentKleen on July 31, 2014, 11:03:18 pm
Poleking. These where all on our 2014 pricing structure. 
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: davids3511 on July 31, 2014, 11:08:57 pm
Thanks for your input Carl. Heres to your next 20 years!!!!!
If you want my correct stats you are slighlty out.
From 9 hours of leafletting in January I have 83 new accounts serviced every 4 weeks.
Keep up the good work.   
I don't care how good your leaflet is, you cannot replicate this every week over a year. I have put out over 100,000 leaflets and there are some great hit rates but there are some terrible ones too. My record was 23 jobs for 2 hours. Could I get this every 2 hours, no way.

Its like the gambler who only tells you about his wins.
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: davids3511 on July 31, 2014, 11:15:54 pm
If your cheap Bob, put the prices on. If you're not, no prices and sell yourself at the door when they call.
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: David Kent @ KentKleen on July 31, 2014, 11:18:54 pm
Thanks for your input too Davids.  I never gamble so its wins all the way. Quick solid growth with very very little drop out rate has meant nothing is a gamble and every day is a good day.
Its not about amounts, its about HOW!


Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: PoleKing on July 31, 2014, 11:23:24 pm
Poleking. These where all on our 2014 pricing structure. 

That's not what I asked though.
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: davids3511 on July 31, 2014, 11:31:01 pm
Thanks for your input too Davids.  I never gamble so its wins all the way. Quick solid growth with very very little drop out rate has meant nothing is a gamble and every day is a good day.
Its not about amounts, its about HOW!



Best of luck to you if you can achieve this. Whatever your 'how' is, can you do it day in day out? If so, you should have 10 franchisees by this time next year. If 40 hours leafleting brings in 280 customers you should be able to do one a month with a few leafletters working part time.
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: David Kent @ KentKleen on July 31, 2014, 11:31:44 pm
More than enough Lanes!
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: richywilts on July 31, 2014, 11:33:55 pm
david kent clean can u give us a bit more info how you leaflet a leaflet differently to others im intrigued
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: David Kent @ KentKleen on July 31, 2014, 11:34:56 pm
Davids, you are correct, but as you may well know 'finding' reliable quality franchisees is more difficult than bringing the work in. Had a new one start on the 21st of this month though. Happy days.
 
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: David Kent @ KentKleen on July 31, 2014, 11:35:57 pm
Search my back posts Richy.
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: davids3511 on July 31, 2014, 11:36:09 pm
Davids, you are correct, but as you may well know 'finding' reliable quality franchisees is more difficult than bringing the work in. Had a new one start on the 21st of this month though. Happy days.
 
Yeah, that's the fly in the ointment. Struggling with that right now.
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: David Kent @ KentKleen on July 31, 2014, 11:38:21 pm
If only they could see window cleaning through our eyes!
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: richywilts on July 31, 2014, 11:39:19 pm
Search my back posts Richy.


cheers david
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: David Kent @ KentKleen on July 31, 2014, 11:44:53 pm
Richy. In short=
Simple easy to read leaflet, your branding on it. Typical Prices on it. Delivered 1 or 2 days (or upto a week) before your cleaning that area. Delivered to the same area on a very regular basis. Delivered before 3.00 pm or on a Sunday.
Hope this helps.
 
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: PoleKing on July 31, 2014, 11:48:11 pm
More than enough Lanes!

You're very secretive.
No website? But you're looking for franchisers?
Happy to post figures but not ones of any substance.
Not digs. Just facts. Each to their own.
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: David Kent @ KentKleen on August 01, 2014, 12:07:17 am
Correct on the first account lanes, NO WEBSITE. Second account, not looking at the moment as the new one (started 21st of this month) is settling in and I like to spend time with them.
Prices and amounts. Why share them on a forum? Unless to 'big' your wallet up.
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: CleanClear on August 01, 2014, 12:26:36 am
Just get ya prices on and don't worry about cheaper guys !!!  ;D

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Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: Ian101 on August 01, 2014, 09:05:13 am
Just get ya prices on and don't worry about cheaper guys !!!  ;D

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Nice leaflet ... like it ! :)
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: richywilts on August 01, 2014, 09:46:56 am
them prices for the full wash down seem quite low to me i think you could easily charge a bit more
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: CleanClear on August 01, 2014, 10:08:58 am
them prices for the full wash down seem quite low to me i think you could easily charge a bit more

I think its a little bit of a trade off Rich, if you where out seeing it and quoting you could get more, or less if they are small etc.. The beauty about it is no quoting, so when you get a call for the Ultra Clean you know what you're getting, good with the bad.
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: richywilts on August 01, 2014, 10:20:42 am
yeah true minus fuel costs etc going to quote i think on them type jobs tho u can land urself some underpriced work, if u got a very large semi would you try and negotiate the price or just go straight in at price stated
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: CleanClear on August 01, 2014, 10:32:14 am
Just do it unless there was something seriously wrong.
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: carl neal on August 03, 2014, 05:11:52 pm
Thanks for your input Carl. Heres to your next 20 years!!!!!
If you want my correct stats you are slighlty out.
From 9 hours of leafletting in January I have 83 new accounts serviced every 4 weeks.
Keep up the good work.  

Totalling £? Per month though David?
Over 9 regular decent customers an hour is certainly a rate neither myself or anyone I know of could achieve. But if you have, hats off!
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: carl neal on August 03, 2014, 05:18:48 pm
Well david  I put 20 000 leaglets out a month so you are wsy off with your results like I said you just got lucky u dont get that response off evey drop the best way is to drop leaflets then follow up door nocking I should no I have 7 vans on the road and clean some of the most chersied contracts in west midlands so I think you have been telling a few porkies with your stats
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: carl neal on August 03, 2014, 05:30:35 pm
If you have 7 vans on the road y would you bother washing cars for ten pounds my business loses money on gutter cleans etc and you got 7 vans and uour washing cars gor ten ponds wen u employ  7 staff how much to wash my vans on a regular basis ?
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: Perfect Windows on August 03, 2014, 06:08:35 pm
Well david  I put 20 000 leaglets out a month so you are wsy off with your results like I said you just got lucky u dont get that response off evey drop the best way is to drop leaflets then follow up door nocking I should no I have 7 vans on the road and clean some of the most chersied contracts in west midlands so I think you have been telling a few porkies with your stats

Wat are your charges mate carl I currenyly empliy 5 window cleaners cheers
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: Clever Forum Name on August 03, 2014, 06:26:33 pm
Read the last two posts from carl neal, its like he is having a conversation with himself lol
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: Ste b on August 03, 2014, 09:45:58 pm
Read the last two posts from carl neal, its like he is having a conversation with himself lol


I thought i was drunk,  then realised i hadnt been drinking
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: CleanClear on August 03, 2014, 10:21:44 pm
Read the last two posts from carl neal, its like he is having a conversation with himself lol


I thought i was drunk,  then realised i hadnt been drinking

I just done the same. I'm just made up there's a worse dickhead on here than me !!   ;D ;D
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: carl neal on August 04, 2014, 06:16:03 pm
Sorry top gun u look like  a pilot
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: carl neal on August 04, 2014, 06:23:34 pm
You are a dick head dont you ever work u on here constantly if you struggling for work gis a bell u muppett u are one of them window cleaners who been cleaning 6 months and you no poope
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: Ste b on August 04, 2014, 07:28:19 pm
You are a dick head dont you ever work u on here constantly if you struggling for work gis a bell u muppett u are one of them window cleaners who been cleaning 6 months and you no poope


Put ya handbag away  ::)roll
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: Perfect Windows on August 04, 2014, 10:07:14 pm
http://tinyurl.com/l6xghth

Doesn't work...

Vin
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: CleanClear on August 04, 2014, 10:19:05 pm
You are a dick head dont you ever work u on here constantly if you struggling for work gis a bell u muppett u are one of them window cleaners who been cleaning 6 months and you no poope

Correct, but can spot a dickhead from a mile away !!  ;D
Title: Re: LEAFLETS.....prices on or
Post by: carl neal on August 06, 2014, 04:21:36 pm
Message for pure  h20 I was not speaking to my self u sad prick bore off mate do u need sum work mr h20 wat a bloon u are h20 get real old boy u just cume out of a factory and brought a reach and wash they been out 20 years u clown