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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: WGB on May 06, 2014, 10:22:30 pm

Title: local windy just rang me up
Post by: WGB on May 06, 2014, 10:22:30 pm
..and offered to sell his round. Says he has about 300 custys with most on 4-5 week cycle which brings him in between £2500- £2800 roughly each month. He's selling for 5grand. Has been established for 17 years, reason why he's giving up is because he has bad back which I know is true. I know he is legit because know people on his round and is well known. My only worry is his work might be a bit lower priced than mine. Would you buy at this price?? Has offered to go round with me and pay in instalments too.
Advice anyone??

Wayne
Title: Re: local windy just rang me up
Post by: Scrimble on May 06, 2014, 10:26:30 pm
buy the round and employ, take the leap of faith
Title: Re: local windy just rang me up
Post by: p1w1 on May 06, 2014, 10:29:50 pm
If that was offered to me I would take it even if was slightly underpriced
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Post by: Mick Kent on May 06, 2014, 10:33:24 pm
Without a 2nd though for that price id have it
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Post by: SB Cleaning on May 06, 2014, 10:34:48 pm
Yes definitely ;)
Title: Re: local windy just rang me up
Post by: WGB on May 06, 2014, 10:39:51 pm
And says he's 60%wfp 40%trad, I'm about 95% wfp so would be wanting them all that way so may lose a few..
Title: Re: local windy just rang me up
Post by: MWC on May 06, 2014, 10:41:04 pm
Get it bought! Where abouts is the work?
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Post by: richard groves on May 06, 2014, 10:43:46 pm
trad or wfp ? and how long does it take to do ? but at the price of being cleaned twice sounds a great deal to me.  ;)
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Post by: PoleKing on May 06, 2014, 11:09:37 pm
buy the round and employ, take the leap of faith

+1
Title: Re: local windy just rang me up
Post by: 8weekly on May 07, 2014, 02:49:07 am
Around £8.50 a house? I wouldn't. If you employed and paid £10 an hour that's £1,600 a month. If you add the overheads, holiday pay etc I reckon it's got to be over £2,000 a month. Obviously you could pay less wages, put the prices up etc., but your margins on those figures would rule it out for me in the south.
Title: Re: local windy just rang me up
Post by: johnny bravo on May 07, 2014, 12:33:54 pm
employ a young lad who will apreciate the cash,    they will be happy with £5+, to begin with,     after training give him a rise.     loyal employee,    p/t basis.  the round will pay that extra to pay him
Title: Re: local windy just rang me up
Post by: SeanK on May 07, 2014, 12:54:07 pm
And says he's 60%wfp 40%trad, I'm about 95% wfp so would be wanting them all that way so may lose a few..



I would be looking to know why 40% of the work is not wfp as I have no interest in working from a ladder.
Also check out how long the round has been converted from trad to wfp.
There's a development near me about 3 to 400 properties that don't take well to the pole. I used to clean about
40 of them but replaced them all with properties elsewhere as they were a nightmare to get right.
They have been the downfall of many a new start wfp'er.
If 40% of the properties are like this you could be buying a headache.
 
Title: Re: local windy just rang me up
Post by: Small but perfectley formed on May 07, 2014, 01:38:40 pm
snatch his hand off , sell the trad work and get 3 or 4 x value back  :o
Title: Re: local windy just rang me up
Post by: KS Cleaning on May 07, 2014, 04:03:16 pm
And says he's 60%wfp 40%trad, I'm about 95% wfp so would be wanting them all that way so may lose a few..



I would be looking to know why 40% of the work is not wfp as I have no interest in working from a ladder.
Also check out how long the round has been converted from trad to wfp.
There's a development near me about 3 to 400 properties that don't take well to the pole. I used to clean about
40 of them but replaced them all with properties elsewhere as they were a nightmare to get right.
They have been the downfall of many a new start wfp'er.
If 40% of the properties are like this you could be buying a headache.
 
He may pole the tops and trad the bottoms at the mo??
Title: Re: local windy just rang me up
Post by: KS Cleaning on May 07, 2014, 04:53:27 pm
Around £8.50 a house? I wouldn't. If you employed and paid £10 an hour that's £1,600 a month. If you add the overheads, holiday pay etc I reckon it's got to be over £2,000 a month. Obviously you could pay less wages, put the prices up etc., but your margins on those figures would rule it out for me in the south.
But if you are paying out £10 an hour on wages and you have enough work to give an employee 35-40 hours per week they should be bringing in over £4000 a month. If this work brings in £2500-£2800 per month it will be around 100 hours work per month for 1 man, give or take. The £8.50 average per house means nothing, it's the average hourly rate that matters.
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Post by: AuRavelling79 on May 07, 2014, 06:30:41 pm
I reckon you could make that work.
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Post by: edward1 on May 07, 2014, 06:52:47 pm
 c if he will sell u half of it .
sounds a good deal tho .
very tempted.
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Post by: robertphil on May 07, 2014, 06:53:38 pm
youre going to have to employ.   because theres a lot of work there whoever you employ is going to have to learn fast or you will lose the bulk of that work due to poor quality work.
  i personally would try and poach a skilled worker off another firm , to get it off to a good start
Title: Re: local windy just rang me up
Post by: ben M on May 07, 2014, 07:36:18 pm
Around £8.50 a house? I wouldn't. If you employed and paid £10 an hour that's £1,600 a month. If you add the overheads, holiday pay etc I reckon it's got to be over £2,000 a month. Obviously you could pay less wages, put the prices up etc., but your margins on those figures would rule it out for me in the south.
+1
Title: Re: local windy just rang me up
Post by: ants on May 07, 2014, 10:39:54 pm
Priced at less than x2, established and you can pay in installments,its heaven sent mate.
Title: Re: local windy just rang me up
Post by: WGB on May 08, 2014, 10:18:13 pm
Just of phone to windy selling round and have agreed to pay him in 3 payments over 2 months, rang his old employee and is starting with me on Monday who has been doing the round the last 7 years and knows round like the back of his hand, all custys know him well, think I have landed on my feet with this one at x2 the monthly value think I've got myself a bargain :)

Customer base just went from 250 to 550 :) :)